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  • georgiafan
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 11125

    #1651
    Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

    Philly should be embarrassed for how they threw Ben under the bus after the playoffs. Basically which got him to get 100% blame for losing to Atlanta. The only reason the series went 7 was his defense against Trae. His defense on Trae was a lot better then Green/Thybulle and even Jrue in the next series.
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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47671

      #1652
      Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

      I saw in a Shams report that the Raptors made an offer that the 76ers didnt like.

      I wonder what the offer actually was since it seems like they have no desire to move Siakam,OG,FVV,Barnes.

      Guess they were hoping for a desperation move where 76ers would actually accept Dragic,Boucher and a protected 1st for Simmons. Obviously they won't.

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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47568

        #1653
        Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        Not really news but here y’all go:

        https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/76er...mpression=true
        I feel for the dude. I'm sure the relationship at this point is unsalvageable. Fresh start would do him great. Shooting the ball would too.
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        • georgiafan
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 11125

          #1654
          Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by jeebs9
          I feel for the dude. I'm sure the relationship at this point is unsalvageable. Fresh start would do him great. Shooting the ball would too.
          Obviously Ben needs to start shooting however Philly hasn't ever really surrounded him with several shooters. Curry/JJ have been good, but outside of them its been a bunch of average shooters.
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          • jeebs9
            Fear is the Unknown
            • Oct 2008
            • 47568

            #1655
            Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by georgiafan
            Obviously Ben needs to start shooting however Philly hasn't ever really surrounded him with several shooters. Curry/JJ have been good, but outside of them its been a bunch of average shooters.
            Like he literally has a mental block. You thought Markelle Furtz had mental problems with shooting. He won't. Never seen this **** before
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            • bigeastbumrush
              My Momma's Son
              • Feb 2003
              • 19245

              #1656
              Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by georgiafan
              Philly should be embarrassed for how they threw Ben under the bus after the playoffs. Basically which got him to get 100% blame for losing to Atlanta. The only reason the series went 7 was his defense against Trae. His defense on Trae was a lot better then Green/Thybulle and even Jrue in the next series.

              I agree that Doc tried to shift blame away from himself. But my guy was a total liability. And he was scared to even have the ball in his hands. There’s a reason he has little to no trade interest from around the league.

              Who wants to invest in a $35M+/yr player who can’t shoot and can’t hit FTs?

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              • illwill10
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2009
                • 19829

                #1657
                Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                I agree that Doc and Joel should have kept it in the locker room, and Doc tried to run it back the next day but it was already to late. But Ben was an offensive liability. Ben is too image conscious. I watch most of the post game shows. Ben is quick to point out what an opposing star had against him or if that player had 20+ that he took so many shots to get it. If Ben had Giannis's mentality, then it would be a different story. I don't think Ben and Joel is a fit anyway, even if he shot more.

                I do think that outside of Dame, then D Fox would be my top choice of realistic choices. I want a PG in return and don't want to rush Maxey into starting spot.

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #1658
                  Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by georgiafan
                  Obviously Ben needs to start shooting however Philly hasn't ever really surrounded him with several shooters. Curry/JJ have been good, but outside of them its been a bunch of average shooters.
                  They haven’t surrounded him with shooters or those shooters couldn’t knock down their shots when it mattered?

                  It’s definitely moreso the latter than former.

                  I also don’t think his value is as bad as social media thinks and believe he can still be had some starter level talent and some picks.
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                  • ojandpizza
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 29807

                    #1659
                    Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                    I agree that Doc tried to shift blame away from himself. But my guy was a total liability. And he was scared to even have the ball in his hands. There’s a reason he has little to no trade interest from around the league.

                    Who wants to invest in a $35M+/yr player who can’t shoot and can’t hit FTs?

                    It seems he actually has tons of interest, Philly is just for an AD/PG package.


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                    • illwill10
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 19829

                      #1660
                      Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      They haven’t surrounded him with shooters or those shooters couldn’t knock down their shots when it mattered?

                      It’s definitely moreso the latter than former.

                      I also don’t think his value is as bad as social media thinks and believe he can still be had some starter level talent and some picks.
                      The worse year was 19-20, when they tried to construct a team with the Bucks in mind. Josh Richardson isn't a 3 & D wing and Horford wasn't a stretch 4. 2017 was probably the best constructed with JJ, Saric, Ilyasova, and Bellini. But most years, it wasn't that poorly constructed

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                      • illwill10
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 19829

                        #1661
                        Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by ojandpizza
                        It seems he actually has tons of interest, Philly is just for an AD/PG package.


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                        If difference I say is the Philly is still in title contention mode compared to New Orleans or OkC. So, I do think they will hold firm on trying to get win now pieces. It may not be a superstar, but I don't think they settle for picks and/or young not ready players

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47568

                          #1662
                          Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by illwill10
                          The worse year was 19-20, when they tried to construct a team with the Bucks in mind. Josh Richardson isn't a 3 & D wing and Horford wasn't a stretch 4. 2017 was probably the best constructed with JJ, Saric, Ilyasova, and Bellini. But most years, it wasn't that poorly constructed
                          And there goes those shooters. But it seem they exposed him in that line up too.
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                          • illwill10
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 19829

                            #1663
                            Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by jeebs9
                            And there goes those shooters. But it seem they exposed him in that line up too.
                            I think that was the year they beat Miami in round one and lost to the Celtics in round 2. I think they formed the wall on him and stuck to the shooters daring him to shoot.

                            I think he would benefit from a Giannis type situation. It's just won't matter without that same type of mindset where he doesn't care his image and willing to lineup or brick open mid range shots

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                            • illwill10
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 19829

                              #1664
                              Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                              I guess Rich Paul will try to dissuade his clients to join Philly now lol. Only way they're going to include Maxey in a deal with Ben is for a Dame or Beal type deal. Plus with those 2 gone, they wouldn't have a true PG on the team
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                              • ProfessaPackMan
                                Bamma
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #1665
                                Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                                I know some owners gotta be sick of him, lol
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