Age limit

[PdiddyPop]

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Actually, the Chris Washburns of the world happen MOST times, the LeBrons happen rarely.

exactly.

[PdiddyPop]

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I would like to point out that the NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL are not govt owned businesses. So if they put a rule into effect they more than have the right.

[PdiddyPop]

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I would like to point out that the NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL are not govt owned businesses. So if they put a rule into effect they more than have the right.

[mgoblue]

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Actually, the Chris Washburns of the world happen MOST times, the LeBrons happen rarely.

I totally agree...for every single LeBron there are many players who don't end up like that.

I personally want the NBA to have an age limit, because I'm tired of the total lack of actual basketball skills. Extreme youth will only hurt the league (again, situations like LeBron are really once in a generation, more end up like Kwame Brown, who probably could be a better pro if he went to college). I feel college grows a kid up both emotionally and basketball wise, it's an important step in life IMO. What kid could step into having millions of dollars at 18, people they think are friends using them for their money, giving bad advice, not many youngsters are ready for that. Until the NBA has a legit minor league ala NHL or MLB, I don't want to see these 18 year olds get drafted.

[mgoblue]

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Actually, the Chris Washburns of the world happen MOST times, the LeBrons happen rarely.

I totally agree...for every single LeBron there are many players who don't end up like that.

I personally want the NBA to have an age limit, because I'm tired of the total lack of actual basketball skills. Extreme youth will only hurt the league (again, situations like LeBron are really once in a generation, more end up like Kwame Brown, who probably could be a better pro if he went to college). I feel college grows a kid up both emotionally and basketball wise, it's an important step in life IMO. What kid could step into having millions of dollars at 18, people they think are friends using them for their money, giving bad advice, not many youngsters are ready for that. Until the NBA has a legit minor league ala NHL or MLB, I don't want to see these 18 year olds get drafted.

[blackceasar]

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People forget. College costs money to go. Period. I had 10's of thousands of dollars in student loans that Im paying back. If I could shoot a jumper and a college told me if I would shoot a jumper for them I could get my education for free then what the heck do you think id do? Kids need to stop thinking about the NBA first. Its like they cant see the forrest for the trees. I hear people saying if you put an age limit on the NBA or whatever then you are infringing on that persons right to make money, a right of employment. Well I have news for those idiots. When you get drafted into the NBA or NFL or any other pro league for that matter, that team HIRED you. They hired you to do a job. Whens the last time youve seen an employer who cant hire who they want for whatever reasons?? Playing in the NBA is not a right, its a priviledge and I dont care if you averaged 50 points a game over your whole high school career, no NBA team HAS to draft you if they dont want to...and actually no college HAS to offer you a scholarship.

Now on to the fools in this thread who said there should be an age limit because kids go pro, get no education, then after 2 years in the league are a bust and have nothing to fall back on. HELLO. THAT WAS THIER CHOICE. PERIOD. They could have went to college...they CHOSE not to. And for the kids who are good athletes but too stupid to get in a college..thats no ones fault but thier own either. It all boils down to that individual being responsible. Colleges nor the NBA are responsible for your well being and what you chose to do with your life.

[blackceasar]

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People forget. College costs money to go. Period. I had 10's of thousands of dollars in student loans that Im paying back. If I could shoot a jumper and a college told me if I would shoot a jumper for them I could get my education for free then what the heck do you think id do? Kids need to stop thinking about the NBA first. Its like they cant see the forrest for the trees. I hear people saying if you put an age limit on the NBA or whatever then you are infringing on that persons right to make money, a right of employment. Well I have news for those idiots. When you get drafted into the NBA or NFL or any other pro league for that matter, that team HIRED you. They hired you to do a job. Whens the last time youve seen an employer who cant hire who they want for whatever reasons?? Playing in the NBA is not a right, its a priviledge and I dont care if you averaged 50 points a game over your whole high school career, no NBA team HAS to draft you if they dont want to...and actually no college HAS to offer you a scholarship.

Now on to the fools in this thread who said there should be an age limit because kids go pro, get no education, then after 2 years in the league are a bust and have nothing to fall back on. HELLO. THAT WAS THIER CHOICE. PERIOD. They could have went to college...they CHOSE not to. And for the kids who are good athletes but too stupid to get in a college..thats no ones fault but thier own either. It all boils down to that individual being responsible. Colleges nor the NBA are responsible for your well being and what you chose to do with your life.

[Dame]

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you guys arguments are wrong Chris washburn went to college he went to nc state and his life still failed. and why would a person who grew up poor turn down Guaranteed millions? Why? And you can say that their skills is going down but if you look at this years allstar teams 7 of the 24 were straight from high school.
And hardly none of the allstar squad was even on the olympic team. If we put our best out their they wouldnt have a chance.

[Dame]

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you guys arguments are wrong Chris washburn went to college he went to nc state and his life still failed. and why would a person who grew up poor turn down Guaranteed millions? Why? And you can say that their skills is going down but if you look at this years allstar teams 7 of the 24 were straight from high school.
And hardly none of the allstar squad was even on the olympic team. If we put our best out their they wouldnt have a chance.

[jmood88]

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after since its his choice i wish ESPN and Outside the Lines don't show specials about how this kid failed in the NBA, and now we are supposed to feel sorry for them. i really don't know why they do it. i've seen some friends drop out of school 2 months b4 graduation in HS and now they wished they wouldn't have. i'm just like well you were the one that chose it now its your bed you have to lie in.

Nobody asks for people to feel sorry for them.

[jmood88]

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after since its his choice i wish ESPN and Outside the Lines don't show specials about how this kid failed in the NBA, and now we are supposed to feel sorry for them. i really don't know why they do it. i've seen some friends drop out of school 2 months b4 graduation in HS and now they wished they wouldn't have. i'm just like well you were the one that chose it now its your bed you have to lie in.

Nobody asks for people to feel sorry for them.

[Silverstring]

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Now on to the fools in this thread who said there should be an age limit because kids go pro, get no education, then after 2 years in the league are a bust and have nothing to fall back on. HELLO. THAT WAS THIER CHOICE. PERIOD. They could have went to college...they CHOSE not to. And for the kids who are good athletes but too stupid to get in a college..thats no ones fault but thier own either. It all boils down to that individual being responsible. Colleges nor the NBA are responsible for your well being and what you chose to do with your life.

This is not a bad point, and I don't disagree that individuals are ultimately responsible for themselves. As I and others have acknowledged before, going to college is no guarantee of success, and its entirely possible that a kid can go to college and languish, bith athletically and academically.

That said, if the NBA is in a position to help these 18 year old kids(some are more mature than others, but most are immature, especially living in the insulated environment they often do, where everyone is on their jock telling them they are good enough to go to the NBA) by bringing them a little perspective and nudging some education on them, why not do it? Especially when that change will not only help the players(skills improve in college, better skills means increased chance of early playing time, etc.), but help the NBA game overall.

I don't see how any NBA fan(even if you could give a rats *** about college) could say that a system in which most HS school players sit on the bench with the team that drafted them, to "learn on the job", only to go to another team when they are finally "ready", to either flop or flourish, is not a flawed system from even a purely professional perspective.

[Silverstring]

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Now on to the fools in this thread who said there should be an age limit because kids go pro, get no education, then after 2 years in the league are a bust and have nothing to fall back on. HELLO. THAT WAS THIER CHOICE. PERIOD. They could have went to college...they CHOSE not to. And for the kids who are good athletes but too stupid to get in a college..thats no ones fault but thier own either. It all boils down to that individual being responsible. Colleges nor the NBA are responsible for your well being and what you chose to do with your life.

This is not a bad point, and I don't disagree that individuals are ultimately responsible for themselves. As I and others have acknowledged before, going to college is no guarantee of success, and its entirely possible that a kid can go to college and languish, bith athletically and academically.

That said, if the NBA is in a position to help these 18 year old kids(some are more mature than others, but most are immature, especially living in the insulated environment they often do, where everyone is on their jock telling them they are good enough to go to the NBA) by bringing them a little perspective and nudging some education on them, why not do it? Especially when that change will not only help the players(skills improve in college, better skills means increased chance of early playing time, etc.), but help the NBA game overall.

I don't see how any NBA fan(even if you could give a rats *** about college) could say that a system in which most HS school players sit on the bench with the team that drafted them, to "learn on the job", only to go to another team when they are finally "ready", to either flop or flourish, is not a flawed system from even a purely professional perspective.

[PdiddyPop]

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you guys arguments are wrong Chris washburn went to college he went to nc state and his life still failed. and why would a person who grew up poor turn down Guaranteed millions? Why? And you can say that their skills is going down but if you look at this years allstar teams 7 of the 24 were straight from high school.
And hardly none of the allstar squad was even on the olympic team. If we put our best out their they wouldnt have a chance.

Washburn couldn't even read and write even at State. Everyone knew this which is why they "used" him to get paid. I wonder where his so called friends are now? Not at the furnature plant I last saw him. Again the NBA can enforce any rules with their product they want. The govt doesnt run them. Either agree with the rules or tough turkey. It's going to get past, because the owners have leverage this time. So maybe the NHL season as a lost cause *im saddened*, but maybe that's what it needed to fix things that are wrong with the game.

[PdiddyPop]

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you guys arguments are wrong Chris washburn went to college he went to nc state and his life still failed. and why would a person who grew up poor turn down Guaranteed millions? Why? And you can say that their skills is going down but if you look at this years allstar teams 7 of the 24 were straight from high school.
And hardly none of the allstar squad was even on the olympic team. If we put our best out their they wouldnt have a chance.

Washburn couldn't even read and write even at State. Everyone knew this which is why they "used" him to get paid. I wonder where his so called friends are now? Not at the furnature plant I last saw him. Again the NBA can enforce any rules with their product they want. The govt doesnt run them. Either agree with the rules or tough turkey. It's going to get past, because the owners have leverage this time. So maybe the NHL season as a lost cause *im saddened*, but maybe that's what it needed to fix things that are wrong with the game.