Age limit

[SonicMage]

Re: Age limit

A realdm poster made a great age-limit proposition...

i've said it before, and i'll say it again:

No age limit on picks 1 through 3

players younger than 20 should then be able to return to school and re-enter the draft the following year should they not be picked in the top 3, provided they haven't signed with an agent. teams would be allowed to pay travel costs for pre-draft workouts for these players.

you still get your sure-shots, but fringe players don't get a chance to make a mistake. a kwame brown situation would still be acceptable- scouting's tough.

I dont see how the NBPA would feel any better about this proposition over an all-around age limit.

[Brankles]

Re: Age limit

I don't see why no one is upset over the NCAA's slave business. They are making billions off of kids that get nothing (but an education) in return.

I'm not saying that the NCAA's is a bad thing... but it's a business too. I don't see why they should reap the benefits of players that get the bare minimum.

You should be allowed to go into the league and make millions if you want to. It's a much different scenario than the NFL and NHL, due to the nature of those sports. There has been noted success of high schoolers and early-entrance draftees, so it's not like these players are wasting years, and team money on the proffessional level.

No rule changes need to be made.



Holla

[Brankles]

Re: Age limit

I don't see why no one is upset over the NCAA's slave business. They are making billions off of kids that get nothing (but an education) in return.

I'm not saying that the NCAA's is a bad thing... but it's a business too. I don't see why they should reap the benefits of players that get the bare minimum.

You should be allowed to go into the league and make millions if you want to. It's a much different scenario than the NFL and NHL, due to the nature of those sports. There has been noted success of high schoolers and early-entrance draftees, so it's not like these players are wasting years, and team money on the proffessional level.

No rule changes need to be made.



Holla

[jmood88]

Re: Age limit

I don't see why no one is upset over the NCAA's slave business. They are making billions off of kids that get nothing (but an education) in return.

I'm not saying that the NCAA's is a bad thing... but it's a business too. I don't see why they should reap the benefits of players that get the bare minimum.

You should be allowed to go into the league and make millions if you want to. It's a much different scenario than the NFL and NHL, due to the nature of those sports. There has been noted success of high schoolers and early-entrance draftees, so it's not like these players are wasting years, and team money on the proffessional level.

No rule changes need to be made.



Holla

I'm upset about that and I've already expressed my views on the ncaa in other threads.

[jmood88]

Re: Age limit

I don't see why no one is upset over the NCAA's slave business. They are making billions off of kids that get nothing (but an education) in return.

I'm not saying that the NCAA's is a bad thing... but it's a business too. I don't see why they should reap the benefits of players that get the bare minimum.

You should be allowed to go into the league and make millions if you want to. It's a much different scenario than the NFL and NHL, due to the nature of those sports. There has been noted success of high schoolers and early-entrance draftees, so it's not like these players are wasting years, and team money on the proffessional level.

No rule changes need to be made.



Holla

I'm upset about that and I've already expressed my views on the ncaa in other threads.

[driddy]

Re: Age limit

I'm upset about that and I've already expressed my views on the ncaa in other threads.

Co-Sign

I dont get why people aren't demanding these same age limits in other walks of life. It all comes down to people wanting these kids to play for their alma maters and staying broke while making their school money. Meanwhile Stern will shove Lebron down our throats for the next decade and a half. How's that for mixed messages, "you kids stay away....but tune in to watch the kid on TNT"

[driddy]

Re: Age limit

I'm upset about that and I've already expressed my views on the ncaa in other threads.

Co-Sign

I dont get why people aren't demanding these same age limits in other walks of life. It all comes down to people wanting these kids to play for their alma maters and staying broke while making their school money. Meanwhile Stern will shove Lebron down our throats for the next decade and a half. How's that for mixed messages, "you kids stay away....but tune in to watch the kid on TNT"

[BigTigLSU]

Re: Age limit

I'm upset about that and I've already expressed my views on the ncaa in other threads.

I tried to keep that arguement down, and I actual am writing my grad thesis on the subject of college and even pro sports and coorealation between slavery and indentured servants.

[BigTigLSU]

Re: Age limit

I'm upset about that and I've already expressed my views on the ncaa in other threads.

I tried to keep that arguement down, and I actual am writing my grad thesis on the subject of college and even pro sports and coorealation between slavery and indentured servants.

[Silverstring]

Re: Age limit

I don't see why no one is upset over the NCAA's slave business. They are making billions off of kids that get nothing (but an education) in return.

I'm not saying that the NCAA's is a bad thing... but it's a business too. I don't see why they should reap the benefits of players that get the bare minimum.

Holla

I'm not saying that NCAA rules couldn't be tweaked a bit, or that the players couldn't recieve a small stipend. BUt the notion that the players get "nothing" is completely ridiculous.

I find it laughable that you say "nothing...but an education" Since when is that worth nothing? The opportunity to go to a university and enrich yourself with knowledge is not something to be looked down upon. There are many things in life that are valuable beyond the monetary value attached to them.

Also, since when do these athletes get nothing beyond that education? In many instances they live in school-sponsored housing and have meals provided for them. In addition, they have access to world-class trainers, medical facilities, coaches, etc. You don't think that going to college with a great basketball program ENHANCES many players abilities to get to the NBA and get a large payday in the future? Oh, poor players.....

Things like the NCAA television contract benefit the players(as well as the schools). The system is enriched with that money, and the players benefit from that system, in ways that go beyond the aforementioned examples.

What exactly are you proposing as an alternative? Instead of having a Duke player exchange his basketball abilities for a $40,000 a year education(and thats not even counting the food, the training, the access to medical care that schools with top athletic programs provide, etc.), lets just pay the player the $40,000, and let him just show up for the games. I don't think playing a game(at a high level, admittedly) for a few months out of the year in exchange for indirect access to tens of thousands of dollars in amenities and privileges and education is as dire of a proposition as you make it out to be.

[Silverstring]

Re: Age limit

I don't see why no one is upset over the NCAA's slave business. They are making billions off of kids that get nothing (but an education) in return.

I'm not saying that the NCAA's is a bad thing... but it's a business too. I don't see why they should reap the benefits of players that get the bare minimum.

Holla

I'm not saying that NCAA rules couldn't be tweaked a bit, or that the players couldn't recieve a small stipend. BUt the notion that the players get "nothing" is completely ridiculous.

I find it laughable that you say "nothing...but an education" Since when is that worth nothing? The opportunity to go to a university and enrich yourself with knowledge is not something to be looked down upon. There are many things in life that are valuable beyond the monetary value attached to them.

Also, since when do these athletes get nothing beyond that education? In many instances they live in school-sponsored housing and have meals provided for them. In addition, they have access to world-class trainers, medical facilities, coaches, etc. You don't think that going to college with a great basketball program ENHANCES many players abilities to get to the NBA and get a large payday in the future? Oh, poor players.....

Things like the NCAA television contract benefit the players(as well as the schools). The system is enriched with that money, and the players benefit from that system, in ways that go beyond the aforementioned examples.

What exactly are you proposing as an alternative? Instead of having a Duke player exchange his basketball abilities for a $40,000 a year education(and thats not even counting the food, the training, the access to medical care that schools with top athletic programs provide, etc.), lets just pay the player the $40,000, and let him just show up for the games. I don't think playing a game(at a high level, admittedly) for a few months out of the year in exchange for indirect access to tens of thousands of dollars in amenities and privileges and education is as dire of a proposition as you make it out to be.

[Vince]

Re: Age limit

I don't see why no one is upset over the NCAA's slave business. They are making billions off of kids that get nothing (but an education) in return.

Do you know how much tuition costs at places like USC,Stanford and Duke?Yeah it's ONLY an education...We know how useless those are...

[Vince]

Re: Age limit

I don't see why no one is upset over the NCAA's slave business. They are making billions off of kids that get nothing (but an education) in return.

Do you know how much tuition costs at places like USC,Stanford and Duke?Yeah it's ONLY an education...We know how useless those are...

[Vince]

Re: Age limit

I'm not saying that NCAA rules couldn't be tweaked a bit, or that the players couldn't recieve a small stipend. BUt the notion that the players get "nothing" is completely ridiculous.

I find it laughable that you say "nothing...but an education" Since when is that worth nothing? The opportunity to go to a university and enrich yourself with knowledge is not something to be looked down upon. There are many things in life that are valuable beyond the monetary value attached to them.

Also, since when do these athletes get nothing beyond that education? In many instances they live in school-sponsored housing and have meals provided for them. In addition, they have access to world-class trainers, medical facilities, coaches, etc. You don't think that going to college with a great basketball program ENHANCES many players abilities to get to the NBA and get a large payday in the future? Oh, poor players.....

Things like the NCAA television contract benefit the players(as well as the schools). The system is enriched with that money, and the players benefit from that system, in ways that go beyond the aforementioned examples.

What exactly are you proposing as an alternative? Instead of having a Duke player exchange his basketball abilities for a $40,000 a year education(and thats not even counting the food, the training, the access to medical care that schools with top athletic programs provide, etc.), lets just pay the player the $40,000, and let him just show up for the games. I don't think playing a game(at a high level, admittedly) for a few months out of the year in exchange for indirect access to tens of thousands of dollars in amenities and privileges and education is as dire of a proposition as you make it out to be.

Could'nt have said it better...

[Vince]

Re: Age limit

I'm not saying that NCAA rules couldn't be tweaked a bit, or that the players couldn't recieve a small stipend. BUt the notion that the players get "nothing" is completely ridiculous.

I find it laughable that you say "nothing...but an education" Since when is that worth nothing? The opportunity to go to a university and enrich yourself with knowledge is not something to be looked down upon. There are many things in life that are valuable beyond the monetary value attached to them.

Also, since when do these athletes get nothing beyond that education? In many instances they live in school-sponsored housing and have meals provided for them. In addition, they have access to world-class trainers, medical facilities, coaches, etc. You don't think that going to college with a great basketball program ENHANCES many players abilities to get to the NBA and get a large payday in the future? Oh, poor players.....

Things like the NCAA television contract benefit the players(as well as the schools). The system is enriched with that money, and the players benefit from that system, in ways that go beyond the aforementioned examples.

What exactly are you proposing as an alternative? Instead of having a Duke player exchange his basketball abilities for a $40,000 a year education(and thats not even counting the food, the training, the access to medical care that schools with top athletic programs provide, etc.), lets just pay the player the $40,000, and let him just show up for the games. I don't think playing a game(at a high level, admittedly) for a few months out of the year in exchange for indirect access to tens of thousands of dollars in amenities and privileges and education is as dire of a proposition as you make it out to be.

Could'nt have said it better...