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  • Dallasin2K3
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 3135

    #76
    Re: Age limit

    Originally posted by bigtiggalsu
    The problem is what about people who arent trying to get degrees should they fake it for two years not going to class getting treatment that could get schools in trouble.
    That type of kid (and there are a lot of them) has a lot of growing up to do before they should go pro in ANYTHING. I don't think that is a justification for kids being allowed to go pro out of HS. I think that is an excuse.
    Originally Posted by Briman123

    I'd rather drink beer because drinking alot of beers makes you more manly.

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    • Dallasin2K3
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 3135

      #77
      Re: Age limit

      Originally posted by bigtiggalsu
      The problem is what about people who arent trying to get degrees should they fake it for two years not going to class getting treatment that could get schools in trouble.
      That type of kid (and there are a lot of them) has a lot of growing up to do before they should go pro in ANYTHING. I don't think that is a justification for kids being allowed to go pro out of HS. I think that is an excuse.
      Originally Posted by Briman123

      I'd rather drink beer because drinking alot of beers makes you more manly.

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      • PdiddyPop
        K*ngs *f th* D*nc*!
        • Dec 2002
        • 21768

        #78
        Re: Age limit

        Originally posted by bigtiggalsu
        Naw I actually felt what what you were saying and I agree selfishly of course you look out for fav sport first. Plus it is a person by person case. I my self after seeing the level of competition on the college level and seeing friends not make it pro quickly realized school was most likely my best option but sadly some kids dont even have that as a choice. Hence the nick name Slowmile Swift given to him after he hit the NBA.

        ahh my bad i misread what you were saying. its a case by case thing though. now its probably gonna be a mandate for college for 2 yrs or a minor league system or Juco if they cant qualify for a education.
        President of the Devils Den
        (2009 Pre-Season NIT Champs/2010 ACC Co Reg Season/ACC Tournament/South Regional Champs/National Champs)

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        • PdiddyPop
          K*ngs *f th* D*nc*!
          • Dec 2002
          • 21768

          #79
          Re: Age limit

          Originally posted by bigtiggalsu
          Naw I actually felt what what you were saying and I agree selfishly of course you look out for fav sport first. Plus it is a person by person case. I my self after seeing the level of competition on the college level and seeing friends not make it pro quickly realized school was most likely my best option but sadly some kids dont even have that as a choice. Hence the nick name Slowmile Swift given to him after he hit the NBA.

          ahh my bad i misread what you were saying. its a case by case thing though. now its probably gonna be a mandate for college for 2 yrs or a minor league system or Juco if they cant qualify for a education.
          President of the Devils Den
          (2009 Pre-Season NIT Champs/2010 ACC Co Reg Season/ACC Tournament/South Regional Champs/National Champs)

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          • BigTigLSU
            H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
            • Sep 2002
            • 6506

            #80
            Re: Age limit

            Originally posted by Dallasin2K3
            That type of kid (and there are a lot of them) has a lot of growing up to do before they should go pro in ANYTHING. I don't think that is a justification for kids being allowed to go pro out of HS. I think that is an excuse.

            ITs a bad system built on using talent until it runs dry or out of eligibility. Kids are being taught early because you are good you get a pass, and this is from coaches teachers, friends and family. So now it comes to time to make a choice and you still in that what can you do for me attitude but the joke is them when they are no longer needed anymore by the school.
            RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
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            • BigTigLSU
              H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
              • Sep 2002
              • 6506

              #81
              Re: Age limit

              Originally posted by Dallasin2K3
              That type of kid (and there are a lot of them) has a lot of growing up to do before they should go pro in ANYTHING. I don't think that is a justification for kids being allowed to go pro out of HS. I think that is an excuse.

              ITs a bad system built on using talent until it runs dry or out of eligibility. Kids are being taught early because you are good you get a pass, and this is from coaches teachers, friends and family. So now it comes to time to make a choice and you still in that what can you do for me attitude but the joke is them when they are no longer needed anymore by the school.
              RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
              www.grownmansports.com
              Facebook.com/grownmansports

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              • Dallasin2K3
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 3135

                #82
                Re: Age limit

                Originally posted by bigtiggalsu
                ITs a bad system

                That's all I'm saying. I just would like to see it tweaked. This is a start.
                Originally Posted by Briman123

                I'd rather drink beer because drinking alot of beers makes you more manly.

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                • Dallasin2K3
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 3135

                  #83
                  Re: Age limit

                  Originally posted by bigtiggalsu
                  ITs a bad system

                  That's all I'm saying. I just would like to see it tweaked. This is a start.
                  Originally Posted by Briman123

                  I'd rather drink beer because drinking alot of beers makes you more manly.

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                  • BigTigLSU
                    H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 6506

                    #84
                    Re: Age limit

                    Originally posted by Dallasin2K3
                    That's all I'm saying. I just would like to see it tweaked. This is a start.
                    Its what America has become we have to protect ourselves from ourselves.

                    We protect young players from there own immaturity and greed.

                    Owners for thier lack of patience and greed.

                    And we as fans complain about salaries and prices of our sports rising we actually have all the power because if we dont watch they dont exist.
                    RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
                    www.grownmansports.com
                    Facebook.com/grownmansports

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                    • BigTigLSU
                      H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 6506

                      #85
                      Re: Age limit

                      Originally posted by Dallasin2K3
                      That's all I'm saying. I just would like to see it tweaked. This is a start.
                      Its what America has become we have to protect ourselves from ourselves.

                      We protect young players from there own immaturity and greed.

                      Owners for thier lack of patience and greed.

                      And we as fans complain about salaries and prices of our sports rising we actually have all the power because if we dont watch they dont exist.
                      RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
                      www.grownmansports.com
                      Facebook.com/grownmansports

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                      • ryanm1058123
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 3628

                        #86
                        Re: Age limit

                        Raymond should just cite himself as the reason why players should spend at least two years in college: Immaturity.

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                        • ryanm1058123
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3628

                          #87
                          Re: Age limit

                          Raymond should just cite himself as the reason why players should spend at least two years in college: Immaturity.

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                          • BigTigLSU
                            H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 6506

                            #88
                            Re: Age limit

                            Originally posted by ryanm1058123
                            Raymond should just cite himself as the reason why players should spend at least two years in college: Immaturity.

                            OUCH

                            RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
                            www.grownmansports.com
                            Facebook.com/grownmansports

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                            • BigTigLSU
                              H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 6506

                              #89
                              Re: Age limit

                              Originally posted by ryanm1058123
                              Raymond should just cite himself as the reason why players should spend at least two years in college: Immaturity.

                              OUCH

                              RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
                              www.grownmansports.com
                              Facebook.com/grownmansports

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                              • driddy
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 989

                                #90
                                Re: Age limit

                                This is really a ridiculous argument, essentially it comes down to two schools of thought:

                                1) The college fan who wants to see these kids go to his alma mater to make his team better. Thus making college basketball relevant again

                                2) The pro fan who feels that high schoolers are bringing down the quality of play.

                                Here's the problem with #1, a kid who wants to go to the NBA without college has no right taking a spot away from someone who wants the college experience. Why should a scholarship be taken away from someone who intends to graduate just to make college basketball better? Colleges are higher education institutions and should be only for those who want/need the degree and the other things you get from college. Also, nothing stops a kid from going back to college when he wants to, except instead of being held hostage by the system he can use his own wealth. See Kevin Garnett for example. College basketball fans rarely care about the kids coming through their program, they only care about their conference or their alma-mater.

                                The problem with #2 is that we aren't holding the adults in positions of power accountable. These are professional executives who should be basing their decisions on what helps their teams. If they cant help themselves from drafting high schoolers then that's on them. If they want kids to not come straight out of high school, then dont draft them. Why do they insist on drafting kids with no college basketball experience? Ask San Antonion if they would have preferred Tony Parker to not come to the NBA before college, ask Minny if they are disappointed with Garnett, ask the Lakers if they would rather have kept Eddie Jones vs. trading for the rights to Kobe Bryant whom Jerry West claimed had the "best workout he'd ever seen". Ask Cleveland if they shouldn't have taken Lebron James. Out of the last 6 championships, there has been a high schooler who has played a key component in 5 out of those titles.

                                Forget the hypocrasy of being able to die for your country, or that child actors dont have an age limit, or tennis players, or hockey, or baseball players. At some point people should stop trying to condemn the young kids coming out of high school to petty wages, and instead see the other side of the coin.

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