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  • illwill10
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2009
    • 19823

    #541
    Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

    Originally posted by ggsimmonds
    I'm not high on Simmons at all. I never thought he was worth the 76ers asking price. But Brooklyn is the ideal place for him. He's got two other stars that can receive the bulk of the attention. If the Nets fail to advance to the playoffs no one is going to blame it on Simmon's scoring. The pressure will be off him and he'll be able to play his game without feeling pressured to do more. Also love that the Nets got Drummond as well. They had the weakest frontcourt in the NBA and just getting a big body will help them.

    Philly may have got better as well but they did so at the expense of strengthening another Eastern Conference rival and I have more questions on their fit than I do with the Nets.

    Of course a lot hinges on Kyrie's status in home playoff games.
    Ben still has to show improvements off ball. Because it will be issues if teams can just sag off of him.

    I do expect the mandate to be lifted by then. Ben hasn't played with a guard of the caliber of Kyrie.

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    • Yeah...THAT Guy
      Once in a Lifetime Memory
      • Dec 2006
      • 17294

      #542
      Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

      I think Brooklyn has to be hoping that the Simmons at C lineups will allow him to operate in the dunker spot much more than he did in Philly. He and Embiid kinda wanted to operate in the same space and there’s nobody to really clog that up for him anymore so hopefully he’ll perform better off ball than he ever has. I just don’t think that’s a certainty the way most of the media is treating it.


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      • ggsimmonds
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jan 2009
        • 11235

        #543
        Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
        I disagree. Simmons is going to be on the floor during big moments in these games in the playoffs. We all seem to have this idea that he's just gonna be there and doesn't have to do nothing. He's going to have to play and at some point, he's going to need to make shots. Even Jordan had to pass to Kerr/Paxson in key moments. LeBron had to pass to Bosh or Chalmers at points. Simmons is going to have to step up at times in the playoffs when his number is called and if he misses or is scared of the shot like he was last year, the New York media and the rest of the sports universe is going to eviscerate him for tucking tail and forcing his way out of Philly to Brooklyn just to still fail
        Yeah that is absolutely true, but that would be the case wherever he went.

        At least in Brooklyn he can be more of a role player on offense as opposed to being one of the main pieces like had he ended up elsewhere.
        For who he is Brooklyn may be the best fit for him.

        And for Harden spongebob'ing it a few days before the deadline this may be the best return the Nets could have hoped for.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #544
          2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

          We can afford to “hide” Ben on Offense just like Philly can afford to “hide” Harden on Defense

          From the moment we got Harden all we heard was that we need Defense, we can’t stop anybody. We addressed Defense and Rebounding, two things that we NEEDED to address in the offseason but either failed to do and/or invested in the wrong players to fill those two needs.

          Ben isn’t gonna be expected to hit no clutch 3pt or big shots like that, we got other players that take care of that, so if he can just help transform us Defensively or at the very least, get back to where we were last year, which was middle of the pack, then that’s a huge benefit for us.

          Adding Seth to a team with KD, Kyrie, Joe and Patty as elite 3pt shooters and not having to worry about standing in one spot while the PG dribbles the ball in one spot for 20 seconds(we ALL saw this so this doesn’t qualify as hate)will be a huge plus.

          Drummond, I’m keeping my expectations low just because there’s certain matchups where he’s not even an option. Rebounding wise, he’ll def help in that regard, especially compared to before when our options were pretty much Blake and Aldridge.

          Like I told Will, I would’ve loved to get Thybulle but it is what it is.

          If Ben can hit one 3pt shot per week, I’d be thrilled lol. The Nets have a track record of developing 3pt shooters or at the least, giving guys that confidence(see Lopez, Brook, Harris, Joe, Russell, D’Angelo).
          Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 02-10-2022, 04:52 PM.
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          • ojandpizza
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 29807

            #545
            Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

            I feel like Ben has substantially more to offer as a player than his entire game being chalked up as the guy who passed to avoid free throws in one game lol. I love the pairing of Ben and KD, I think that's a huge grab for the Nets and thought a move for him was an ideal fit even back when people were speculating Kyrie trades. It's an even better fit with Harden begin the guy out.

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            • georgiafan
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              • Jul 2002
              • 11100

              #546
              Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

              I know I dont want no part of Kyrie, Curry, KD and Ben and however else as the 5th man in the first round for Atlanta as that would be a quick series.
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              • bigeastbumrush
                My Momma's Son
                • Feb 2003
                • 19245

                #547
                Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                Originally posted by jfsolo
                It's tough to see the Lakers give up on the season like this

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                No. No it’s not.

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #548
                  Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                  Nets waive DeAndre Bembry.

                  They could let go of Carter or find any team that Bruce would accept a trade to? Smh
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                  • Yeah...THAT Guy
                    Once in a Lifetime Memory
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 17294

                    #549
                    Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    Nets waive DeAndre Bembry.

                    They could let go of Carter or find any team that Bruce would accept a trade to? Smh

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                    • jeebs9
                      Fear is the Unknown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47568

                      #550
                      Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      Nets waive DeAndre Bembry.

                      They could let go of Carter or find any team that Bruce would accept a trade to? Smh
                      Yeah release Carter or literally any other rookie but not named Kessler Edwards.
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                      • jfsolo
                        Live Action, please?
                        • May 2003
                        • 12965

                        #551
                        Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                        Originally posted by ojandpizza
                        I feel like Ben has substantially more to offer as a player than his entire game being chalked up as the guy who passed to avoid free throws in one game lol. I love the pairing of Ben and KD, I think that's a huge grab for the Nets and thought a move for him was an ideal fit even back when people were speculating Kyrie trades. It's an even better fit with Harden begin the guy out.
                        Yep, I mean maybe he makes a fool out of a lot of us and completely falls apart, but I'm expecting him to ball out.
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                        • 3304Life
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 3002

                          #552
                          Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                          I still just think the impact Simmons is going to have on the Nets defensively will outweigh what they’re losing offensively with Harden. He’s potentially the best defender in the league and has shown capable of scoring 15-17 points per game on good efficiency while being able to rebound like a center and pass like a point guard. The memeification of Simmons since the playoffs and subsequent holdout doesn’t mean he’s not still a great player in the league.

                          If they play him at the 5 and allow him to play off ball but also expose slower bigs on mismatches then he will show his worth. The shot will probably never come, no matter how hard he tries. But there are 5s in the league now putting up good numbers on both ends who don’t have much range outside of 7 feet. Maybe if he is treated as a ball handling big this negative perception of him changes.


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                          • Walt Frazier
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 989

                            #553
                            Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                            Ben rebounds...sprints up court...KD, Patty Mills, Kyrie and Seth Curry ALL on the court means you can't double him or crowd the paint. He can just go to the hoop at will / at speed. If you crowd the lane, he can pass out to 4 scorers.

                            Perfect spot for him.

                            I am not sure how Harden and Joel will work. Embiid wants it in the post early...Harden wants the ball for 20 seconds dribbling, step back..

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                            • Master Live 013
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 12370

                              #554
                              Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                              Problem is, and others have mention this, Simmons ain't good at moving without the basket. Maybe it was Embiid clogging the paint, but that wasn't all of it. We shall see.
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                              • Vni
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 14833

                                #555
                                Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                                Originally posted by jfsolo
                                It's tough to see the Lakers give up on the season like this

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                                Team is beyond fixing and other teams tryed to take advantage of Lakers desperation. I'am glad Pelinka didn't make a move to make a move.

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