***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

[pietasterp]

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It's disappointing that they ended up as the 8-seed since that puts us up against a team we have very little chance of beating, but they had a better destiny in their hands and let it slip away with that awful ending to the season.

Blake, for as good as he's been for us all season (and he has been great), was on the bench in street clothes when we needed him most. Which is what everyone feared would be the case when we signed him for so much money.

I'd be reasonably satisfied with the effort if they could just win 1 game in the series. Just don't get swept is all.

[pietasterp]

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OK, so that happened. Anyone care to share their post-mortem on the season? Or, if you're really feeling up for a challenge, give Pistons fans something to look forward to.

[rockchisler]

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Need a bench and a scoring 3 and D SF


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[pietasterp]

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Gores has made it clear he isn't interested in tanking or any kind of "process", so....I suppose that gives us some roadmap of where this franchise is headed (spoiler alert: nowhere).

Given the Pistons' well-documented financial handicaps, what is the best path forward for the team?

My opinion is that the next 2 years are dead-seasons any way you look at it, and given that Gores wants to try to win, we're probably looking at another 2 years of flirting with the 8-seed vs lottery in the last weeks of the season for the foreseeable future. I think we would do well to not sign any long-term or big-money free agents, try out a lot of younger players over the course of the seasons, and figure out who might be a keeper and who we should move on from before cutting everyone but a small handful loose as soon as their contracts (or the trade market) allows. We can still appear to be trying to win while doing all of the above, although we're effectively playing ourselves out of any chance at a top-5 pick due to Gores' inane mandate to try to win.

[rockchisler]

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Gores has made it clear he isn't interested in tanking or any kind of "process", so....I suppose that gives us some roadmap of where this franchise is headed (spoiler alert: nowhere).

Given the Pistons' well-documented financial handicaps, what is the best path forward for the team?

My opinion is that the next 2 years are dead-seasons any way you look at it, and given that Gores wants to try to win, we're probably looking at another 2 years of flirting with the 8-seed vs lottery in the last weeks of the season for the foreseeable future. I think we would do well to not sign any long-term or big-money free agents, try out a lot of younger players over the course of the seasons, and figure out who might be a keeper and who we should move on from before cutting everyone but a small handful loose as soon as their contracts (or the trade market) allows. We can still appear to be trying to win while doing all of the above, although we're effectively playing ourselves out of any chance at a top-5 pick due to Gores' inane mandate to try to win.

He did say he’s willing to go over the cap. I’ll be interested to see what’s going on the next couple years I don’t want tothe team to tank. They have sucked for so long and the smell the playoffs makes me happy


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[rdnk]

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Need a bench and a scoring 3 and D SF

Could also use an upgrade over Reggie.

[pietasterp]

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He did say he’s willing to go over the cap. I’ll be interested to see what’s going on the next couple years I don’t want tothe team to tank. They have sucked for so long and the smell the playoffs makes me happy

I think my issue here is that going over the cap (which we may be doing this year) is stupid because paying over the league maximum payroll for 41-41 and 0-4 in the playoffs is moronic. I mean, it's not my money so I suppose I don't care at the end of the day, but it's not good for the health of the franchise, and it keeps us from making the team better. After all, you can't spend an infinite amount of money over the cap, which means every dollar spent on a contract for an overpriced 'star' is a dollar less you have to getting a guy who might make your team better long-term.

I think if the goal is to be a 0.500 team and get swept in the first round by 25 points a game, well, then congratulations Pistons! Mission accomplished. If, on the other hand, the goal is to build a team that might contend for a title one day, they couldn't be doing a worse job of that right now.

I think step 1 is to hire an actual general manager. While having no GM/president is better than having Stan Van Gundy in the role (effectively), it's not conducive to building the team for the long run. The problem is I don't trust Gores to find the right person for that role. Once again, as was ever the case in every pro sport, ownership is the beginning and end of all issues with a team.

[l3ulvl]

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Could also use an upgrade over Reggie.

My issue with Reggie and the previous regimes insistence (I swear I spelled that wrong but there's no squiggly line) on pairing him with Drummond is the whole "excellent in the PnR" thing. It's hard to argue he and Dre work well in that role but who the hell cares? He can't do anything else!

Keep in mind this is the same guy that interrupts post game interviews to do silly **** because he's more concerned with having fun than taking the game serious. Anyone remember when Blake was doing an interview and basically blasting the team for not being mature enough and BAM Reggie shows up to do a video bomb.

Next thing you know, Reggie and Dre are doing post game interviews together talking in each others ear telling each other what to say in the interview and not taking anything serious. It's fun and games

Blake and Casey have brought some professionalism but aside from them we're stick with a bunch of late 20s guys acting like early 20s guys, if that makes sense, and they're all getting paid.

I have no idea what to do with this team, we just have to wait it out I guess we even brought Arnie Kander back and even that didn't work!

[pietasterp]

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My issue with Reggie and the previous regimes insistence (I swear I spelled that wrong but there's no squiggly line) on pairing him with Drummond is the whole "excellent in the PnR" thing. It's hard to argue he and Dre work well in that role but who the hell cares? He can't do anything else!

Keep in mind this is the same guy that interrupts post game interviews to do silly **** because he's more concerned with having fun than taking the game serious. Anyone remember when Blake was doing an interview and basically blasting the team for not being mature enough and BAM Reggie shows up to do a video bomb.

Next thing you know, Reggie and Dre are doing post game interviews together talking in each others ear telling each other what to say in the interview and not taking anything serious. It's fun and games

Blake and Casey have brought some professionalism but aside from them we're stick with a bunch of late 20s guys acting like early 20s guys, if that makes sense, and they're all getting paid.

Definitely remember that, and I think it says everything you need to know about Reggie Jackson. There's a reason OKC let him go. Reggie Jackson is a loser with loser's intangibles, and the person who traded for him is the ultimate loser. As long as he's on the team, the Pistons won't win.

I have no idea what to do with this team, we just have to wait it out I guess we even brought Arnie Kander back and even that didn't work!

If Mike Abdenour and Arnie Kander can't keep Blake healthy, no one can.

[rdnk]

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I like the Leuer for Snell and the 30th pick for the Pistons. Leuer couldn't stay healthy, Snell can shoot and the Pistons essentially bought the 30th pick taking back salary.

The Pistons should shop Drummond this offseason. It seems that many teams are desperate to add all-star level players, and the Pistons should take advantage if possible. If nothing materializes, then the Pistons can attempt to resign him.

[l3ulvl]

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I like the Leuer for Snell and the 30th pick for the Pistons. Leuer couldn't stay healthy, Snell can shoot and the Pistons essentially bought the 30th pick taking back salary.

The Pistons should shop Drummond this offseason. It seems that many teams are desperate to add all-star level players, and the Pistons should take advantage if possible. If nothing materializes, then the Pistons can attempt to resign him.

I think shopping him while half the league is in free agency will be difficult.

I love that Snell trade, we gave away a bottom of the bench guy for a potential starter and a first, that's kinda crazy to think about.

But anyway, regarding the draft, I like getting the French Freak, and also liked moving the 30th pick for $5M and four more 2nd rounders that SVG gave away during his time.

Thought it was a pretty decent week for the stones

[rdnk]

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Pistons have done a decent job of adding depth. Rose, Markeiff Morris and Frazier along with Snell from earlier are all solid additions. Like many teams, all the deals are 1 or 2 year deals, as they're all looking ahead to 2021 free agency.

[l3ulvl]

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Pistons have done a decent job of adding depth. Rose, Markeiff Morris and Frazier along with Snell from earlier are all solid additions. Like many teams, all the deals are 1 or 2 year deals, as they're all looking ahead to 2021 free agency.

it's weird though because we keep adding vets like we're contenders

maybe we are

it doesn't feel like it but who the hell knows

also seems like we'll have a 50 man roster

kinda bummed this means there won't be room for youth development which I thought was D Casey's specialty, but if we're all in for right now I understand.

[rdnk]

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I don't see any issues with adding veterans to round out the roster as long as it doesn't involve moving future assets. It is just salary and it will be off the books before the free agency bonanza of 2021. Plus in the case of Snell, the Pistons gained future assets.

I imagine that everyone here would likely be opposed to trading for Westbrook except under very favorable circumstances. However, if the Heat trade for him, do you think that swapping out Reggie for Dragic in a 3-way deal would be an upgrade Detroit should pursue?

[l3ulvl]

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I don't see any issues with adding veterans to round out the roster as long as it doesn't involve moving future assets. It is just salary and it will be off the books before the free agency bonanza of 2021. Plus in the case of Snell, the Pistons gained future assets.

I imagine that everyone here would likely be opposed to trading for Westbrook except under very favorable circumstances. However, if the Heat trade for him, do you think that swapping out Reggie for Dragic in a 3-way deal would be an upgrade Detroit should pursue?

Reggie for Dragic would definitely be an upgrade. The question now is, should we try for CP3? Has he really regressed or does it just seem that way because of Harden's usage rate? Maybe he'll get bought out and we won't have to deal with salary implications, although in that spot idunno why he'd come here unless he really wants to reunite with Blake

Detroit Lob City!

edit: forgot to mention the point I was thinking about "load management" between CP3 and DRose, we could keep both healthy (hopefully) and be a pretty damn good team in the east