Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

[Artman22]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

Quote from a Yahoo! writer:

"...And it was boring as hell.

The result, a near shutout of Mosley, Yahoo! Sports’ No. 3 pound-for-pound fighter coming into the bout, was indeed laced with greatness. The “entertainment,” though, was pretty non-existent."

I saw the fight in my house with 11 friends that I invited. Every single one of us felt the fight was boring and not worth $65.00

Some of you guys might think i'm crazy for saying this, but in a way I feel the fight was rigged.

[Nike Fattz]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

Couldn't agree more. Nazim Richardson had a very good game plan against Floyd and Shane couldn't execute. I feel bad for him more then I do for Shane Mosley. Listening to everything Richardson was telling Mosley was dead on, and Mosley did not follow the gameplan. Richardson threaten to stop the fight because Shane wasn't letting his hands go.

I like Pacman just as much as the next guy, but what Floyd did last night showed me a lot. And as of right now, with Pacman being the smaller fighter, I don't see him beating Floyd. Nazim said it on 24/7 exactly what Floyd was going to do, "We [Shane] are going to punch Floyd in the mouth, and Floyd is going to turn into a Dragon, and come out spitting fire balls"....He knew it was going to happen and Mosley still couldn't execute, that's a testament to Floyd's ring generalship, and boxing ability. If you are a boxing fan, you have to appreciate what took place last night.....IMO

Not to be nitpicky, but this is actually what he said.

"Most people who aren't Mayweather fans consider him to be a pure punk, he's a talented coward the way they see it, and I disagree with that. I think this kid can rumble, I think he can stand in there and rumble a little bit. My impression of the fight? Shane's gonna come out and hit Floyd in the mouth, and Floyd is gonna sprout a tail, grow wings, draw fangs and claws and turn into a Dragon in the ring; And he'll start spittin fire balls." - Nazim Richardson

Love me some Naazim.

[Nike Fattz]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

I was literally jumping up and down in the first two rounds. Those right hands were amazing and I thought Shane would actually put him away - I thought he needed to be throwing some uppercuts though which neither fighter threw for the entire fight outside of the clinch.

Shane gassed a bit and became deflated/discouraged after the 3rd round.

Major props to PBF for actually fighting in the late rounds when he had it all locked up. I really dislike him as a person but he really didn't stop until the fight was over AND came back after almost being put away.

All this williams talk is crazy imo. What's williams bringing to the table? he lost that fight to martinez from my perspective, and to me he's not even worth considering atm.

Pac vs Floyd yes. I want to see it; I still don't think Pac would win, I would like him to but it will be the same thing tonight where I'm rooting for a guy to win, but in my mind I know pbf has the advantage.

Still though after giving him props - I still don't like his fighting style - last night was the best performance I've seen from him BUT - his work-rate is just still way to low for me and I still think his shoulder roll is BS.

anyway here's hoping that the pac fight happens (not holding my breath)

Do you mind explaining the bolded statement?

[aholbert32]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

Do you mind explaining the bolded statement?

Dont ask him to do that. I dont want to hear that BS argument that his shoulder roll is a coward move.

[Jukeman]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

I saw the fight in my house with 11 friends that I invited. Every single one of us felt the fight was boring and not worth $65.00

Some of you guys might think i'm crazy for saying this, but in a way I feel the fight was rigged.

You must not be a true boxing fan...

Yea, the fight was rig...Mosley barely could talk let alone keep a good balance becuz he was so fatigued....Give him a Oscar NOW

Oh and the fact that Golden Boy(Mosley) paid Floyd to win makes alot of sense...

[Dice]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

You want simple evidence why Mayweather would beat Pacquiao with relative ease?

Just look at Manny's face after the Cotto and Clottey fights: Bruised, bandaged, bloodied.

Now look at Floyd's face after the Marquez and Mosley fights: Untouched.

You can say all you want about Manny's power, angles and volume. But that's irrelevant if he can't hit Floyd. And he can't.

Hell, Mosley is a more disciplined boxer than Pacquiao even though Shane didn't show it past the second round last night. And Floyd picked him apart. What makes anyone think Floyd will have more trouble countering and sticking and moving against a less disciplined boxer in Pacquiao, who leaves himself more open than Mosley?

A Pacquiao-Mayweather fight would unfold just like last night's fight, with Manny maybe winning four rounds instead of one. The final scores would favor Mayweather around 116-112.

People sometimes point to Freddie Roach as a big advantage in Pacquiao's corner. Again, irrelevant. Naazim Richardson ranks right with Roach as the best trainer in boxing, and how did that help Mosley last night?

Roger Mayweather is a great trainer in the gym. He keeps Floyd focused and disciplined leading up to a fight, knowing exactly how to prepare his nephew. But once Floyd enters the ring, Roger doesn't need to do much. Floyd executes strategy and adapts on the fly, without instruction from a trainer, better than any fighter in the world.

Roger is a lot like John Wooden with the great UCLA hoops teams of the 60s and 70s. He makes sure everything is done properly in practice, and then just sits back and watches his finely-tuned athlete execute to perfection in the big game.

I would give you that Manny in his last couple of fights he took some shots BUT I'm not sure if I saw much blood coming from his fights. BUT the thing I wanted to point out in relation to PBF is that even though he got hit, he never lost steam and the boxers Manny fought couldn't hurt him.

Now you can say that Floyd is more powerful than Cotto BUT it ain't by much. Cotto was landing some good shots on Manny in his fight and he couldn't stop Manny from pressing him. It's like Manny is like a machine. You can hit him but he doesn't slow down.

Impressive win by Floyd but it still doesn't change my opinion about the Manny vs Floyd fight. I still think it would be a great fight and I still think the chances are 50-50. Wouldn't be surprised if Manny or Mayweather won.

[mgoblue]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

I saw the fight in my house with 11 friends that I invited. Every single one of us felt the fight was boring and not worth $65.00

Everyone I talked to bitched about actually paying for this PPV after they saw it...sadly hear that about a lot of boxing PPV's lately. I think the only one interesting would be Pac/Floyd, but we won't be seeing that.

[sheredia]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

The fight was a bit boring. Shane was out of energy too fast. Idk know why he didn't continue what he started in the second round. I give mayweather his props. He beat Floyd. I don't know if Shane was even really trying to fight.

take nothing away from floyd, it was a great performance, but shane was off....he couldn't get into a rhythm or get his punches off.....and looked tired. one of his worst fights ever. overtrained? maybe. reminded me sort of like what oscar looked like against manny. overmatched. now the only challenge left for floyd is manny. floyd can probably outbox him....maybe even easily. with that said, why not compromise on the olympic-style drug testing for this fight (which manny did agree to with the exception of a just a few days before the fight....) if you are as good as floyd, what are you worried about? floyd should do it for the boxing and the fans, and then after that, if he wins, he will win more fans over and can truly retire as one of the greatest ever.

[Complex]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

See boxing almost has this old WWF feeling. Remember when the shows were 4 sorry unbalanced matches and one decent one? Boxing does that, we need better cards for boxing so $65 is spent on several good matches.

[Complex]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

take nothing away from floyd, it was a great performance, but shane was off....he couldn't get into a rhythm or get his punches off.....and looked tired. one of his worst fights ever. overtrained? maybe. reminded me sort of like what oscar looked like against manny. overmatched. now the only challenge left for floyd is manny. floyd can probably outbox him....maybe even easily. with that said, why not compromise on the olympic-style drug testing for this fight (which manny did agree to with the exception of a just a few days before the fight....) if you are as good as floyd, what are you worried about? floyd should do it for the boxing and the fans, and then after that, if he wins, he will win more fans over and can truly retire as one of the greatest ever.

Shane wasn't off, he was put in that position. When he punched, the counter was coming. Can Shane throw a punch and get his hands back up in a defensive position before Floyd can put his jab to work? easier said than done.

[pk500]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

Dont ask him to do that. I dont want to hear that BS argument that his shoulder roll is a coward move.

It's a brilliant defensive move. Period.

[pk500]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

I saw the fight in my house with 11 friends that I invited. Every single one of us felt the fight was boring and not worth $65.00

Some of you guys might think i'm crazy for saying this, but in a way I feel the fight was rigged.

Well, you could have bought the pay-per-view of Tito Ortiz beating the crap out of Jenna Jameson. That might have kept your MMA crew entertained, especially if Tito and Jenna finished in a 69, which is what most ground maneuvers look like in MMA ...

Seriously, though: I know most casual fans would have preferred an all-action fight. There's a reason why the Ward-Gatti trilogy is held in such high regard by fans even though technically it wasn't even in the same area code as the master class Floyd displayed last night.

Watching Floyd is like watching a pitcher's duel or a dude who hits only 275 yards off the tee but one-putts on nearly every green. It's subtle, elegant mastery of the craft. A velvet-covered scalpel, not a sledgehammer.

[aholbert32]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

Well, you could have bought the pay-per-view of Tito Ortiz beating the crap out of Jenna Jameson. That might have kept your MMA crew entertained, especially if Tito and Jenna finished in a 69, which is what most ground maneuvers look like in MMA ...

Cmon now PK. I really dont want to get into the criminal history of PPV headlining boxers. I'm a boxing fan and I didnt think last night was worth 65 bucks. It wasnt because of the main event. It was because the undercard sucked and the main event was a onesided shutout. If the undercard was better...the 65 bucks would have been justified.

I had a choice between seeing Mayweather/Mosley live or UFC 114 live in Vegas at the end of the month. I chose UFC 114. Based on the cost of tickets , the number of fights and the undercard...I think I made the right choice.

[Complex]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

Cmon now PK. I really dont want to get into the criminal history of PPV headlining boxers. I'm a boxing fan and I didnt think last night was worth 65 bucks. It wasnt because of the main event. It was because the undercard sucked and the main event was a onesided shutout. If the undercard was better...the 65 bucks would have been justified.

I had a choice between seeing Mayweather/Mosley live or UFC 114 live in Vegas at the end of the month. I chose UFC 114. Based on the cost of tickets , the number of fights and the undercard...I think I made the right choice.

That's all I am saying. I mean ESPN FNF has better overall cards most times.

[allBthere]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Shane Mosley - 05-01-2010

Dont ask him to do that. I dont want to hear that BS argument that his shoulder roll is a coward move.

i won't get into it, but it's not that it's a coward move - I don't think I ever said that. I said it's questionable move because there are times when his back is to his opponent which is against the rules, and times where he does it that not only his back is facing his opponent but his head is closer to the ground than his waist. I think it's BS because it's purposely turning your back on your opponent. The good news is he didn't do it too much last night. I know I kind of went into it, but I won't defend my point with more posts I've done that before. It's not that it's cowardly, it's more I don't see it as legitimate. If I did say it was cowardly, I was wrong, he's not a coward in the ring.

in the future though, I'd appreciate it you didn't confuse my point (which I backed up with detailed explanation and thought).