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  • #3871
    sheredia
    MVP
    • Apr 2006
    • 2363

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    Originally posted by JayBee74
    Tonight on ShowTime hard hitting David Benavidez can become the youngest 168-pound titleholder in the history of the sport if he gets by Ronald Gavril as he is expected to do. Gavril is no scrub, however.

    Ronald Gavril Record

    David Benavidez Record
    and then maybe callum smith or jesse hart?

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    • #3872
      JayBee74
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2002
      • 22989

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      Originally posted by sheredia
      and then maybe callum smith or jesse hart?
      Don't know. Callum will be tied up in the World Boxing Super Series at least for one bout. The series starts today with Usyk VS Huck (cruiserweight) and continues for eight consecutive weeks but ultimately becomes one of my biggest boxing disappointments because no American TV deal could be negotiated.

      As for last night's bout, I thought Benavidez won fairly comfortably even given the knockdown he suffered in the last round (he wasn't hurt), but one judge had him losing 116-111 (that judge must have had Gavril at 10-1). Despite that score, the favorite got a 117-111, 116-111, 111-116 majority decision and avoided a huge upset.

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      • #3873
        aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33104

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        How is nobody here talking about the Chocolitito rematch tonight?

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        • #3874
          JayBee74
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 22989

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          Originally posted by aholbert32
          How is nobody here talking about the Chocolitito rematch tonight?
          I saw him on the fight schedule but didn't realize he was rematching the guy that allegedly beat him last time out. It was a big upset but the shock got kind of tamped down by Golovkin-Jacobs that same night. I'll definitely tune in.

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          • #3875
            JayBee74
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 22989

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            Wow, Chocolitito totally destroyed.

            HBO has to erase him from their hype machine.

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            • #3876
              JayBee74
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 22989

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              The Super flyweight/Junior bantamweights just got a lot more interesting.



              For the record I guess Srisaket Sor Rungvisai's translated name is WISAKSIL WANGEK.

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              • #3877
                Money99
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2002
                • 12697

                Re: Boxing Off-Topic


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                Originally posted by JayBee74
                Wow, Chocolitito totally destroyed.

                HBO has to erase him from their hype machine.
                I guess the first fight was no fluke.
                Chocolatito got absolutely destroyed tonight. Amazing that less than a year ago Gonzalez was considered to be the #1 PFP fighter in the world and possibly an all-time great.

                I'm sure HBO will all over Rungvisai now.

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                • #3878
                  Money99
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 12697

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                  In other boxing news, looks like Adrien Broner finally got himself a KO win.
                  Unfortunately, it was on the streets of Vegas and appears he sucker-punched a random dude for no reason at all.

                  "The Problem" is doing his best to live up to his monicker.

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                  • #3879
                    JayBee74
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 22989

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                    No defense by Chocolitito to prevent the final KO punch.

                    EDIT: Follow the clip from about 21 seconds on as it goes slo-mo. It looks like he closed his eyes before the punch came in. I realize he was already hurt but he was struggling the entire fight.

                    So when does Rungvisai fight the Japenese legend (Inoue)?
                    Last edited by JayBee74; 09-16-2017, 12:50 AM.

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                    • #3880
                      gmac0322
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 1650

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                      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                      Originally posted by Money99
                      In other boxing news, looks like Adrien Broner finally got himself a KO win.
                      Unfortunately, it was on the streets of Vegas and appears he sucker-punched a random dude for no reason at all.

                      "The Problem" is doing his best to live up to his monicker.

                      http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/10/adrien...n-vegas-strip/
                      Should we revive the Adrien Boner thread again? He always finds a way to remind me why I love seeing him lose. Such a clown.

                      Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

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                      • #3881
                        pietasterp
                        All Star
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6308

                        Re: Boxing Off-Topic


                        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by Money99
                        In other boxing news, looks like Adrien Broner finally got himself a KO win.
                        Unfortunately, it was on the streets of Vegas and appears he sucker-punched a random dude for no reason at all.

                        "The Problem" is doing his best to live up to his monicker.

                        http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/10/adrien...n-vegas-strip/
                        I laughed my a** off at this post, mostly because I thought you were serious about AB getting a KO win (in the ring). I was like, "huh, I had no idea he fought last night", before reading the rest of the post....

                        Originally posted by JayBee74

                        No defense by Chocolitito to prevent the final KO punch.

                        EDIT: Follow the clip from about 21 seconds on as it goes slo-mo. It looks like he closed his eyes before the punch came in. I realize he was already hurt but he was struggling the entire fight.

                        So when does Rungvisai fight the Japenese legend (Inoue)?
                        Boxing can be a pretty heartless sport. I'm still stunned by what happened last night - I mean, we watched a guy go from 100-to-0 in 1 fight. It wasn't even a competition, and apparently, by what the announcers were saying, Chocolatito didn't seem right even in the fighter interviews. Weird/sad all around. Also, was it just me or did Chocolatito look sorta bloated last night? I mean, in the face. Looked off to me, but could just be me.

                        On a only very-slightly related note, there was an old PC boxing game called "ABC Wide World of Sports Boxing" (I think it was also released as "TV Sports Boxing", for some bizarre reason) which came out in the early 1990's, which to this day remains the most-played boxing game ever in my life. My buddies and I played that thing to death on our parents' old 386-era PC's. Anyway, I always used to complain that when previously unstoppable juggernauts (like Killer Knauer or Big Jer Allnite, for your aficionados) fell off, they'd go over the cliff seemingly overnight, in 1 fight. For example, you wouldn't be able to even hang with them without getting KO'd in 2-3 rounds, but then suddenly you would beat the living daylights out of them like they were Glass Joe all of a sudden if you caught them at the right moment of their career decline.

                        The point of all this is that I used to complain bitterly that the game was really unrealistic and stupid in that regard, but as I get older, I'm starting to realize that's not actually all that far off from how many boxer's actual career trajectories go. Every time I see something like I saw last night, or something like Sergio Martinez suddenly getting old and feeble before our very eyes over the course of 1 bout, for whatever reason my mind always goes back to that game.

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                        • #3882
                          JayBee74
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 22989

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                          Originally posted by pietasterp
                          Boxing can be a pretty heartless sport. I'm still stunned by what happened last night - I mean, we watched a guy go from 100-to-0 in 1 fight.
                          I was pretty much inoculated from being stunned by the way Chocolitito was handily dealt with for the first three rounds. I kind of saw it coming. He was physically and mentally getting a medium sized beating.

                          He actually becomes somewhat interesting if he continues to mix it up with the 115 guys. Who wouldn't want to see him fight Inoue? On the other hand who thinks he could beat Inoue, which was a given one year ago?

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                          • #3883
                            sheredia
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2363

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                            Originally posted by JayBee74
                            I was pretty much inoculated from being stunned by the way Chocolitito was handily dealt with for the first three rounds. I kind of saw it coming. He was physically and mentally getting a medium sized beating.

                            He actually becomes somewhat interesting if he continues to mix it up with the 115 guys. Who wouldn't want to see him fight Inoue? On the other hand who thinks he could beat Inoue, which was a given one year ago?
                            do you think chocolatito asked for a rematch too quickly? does rungvisai just have his number? or maybe the passing of chocolatito's trainer is still affecting him?

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                            • #3884
                              pk500
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 8062

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                              Originally posted by sheredia
                              do you think chocolatito asked for a rematch too quickly? does rungvisai just have his number? or maybe the passing of chocolatito's trainer is still affecting him?
                              The passage of time has affected Chocolatito more than anything. Little guys usually don't fare well past 30 or with big jumps in weight, both of which Gonzalez have experienced.

                              He's past his prime as an elite pound-for-pound fighter. Sor Rungvisai proved that.
                              Xbox Live: pk4425

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                              • #3885
                                JayBee74
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 22989

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                                Originally posted by sheredia
                                do you think chocolatito asked for a rematch too quickly? does rungvisai just have his number? or maybe the passing of chocolatito's trainer is still affecting him?
                                Chocolatito was just one fight into a jump from 112 to 115 when he faced Rungvisai the first time. That's probably comparable to a move from 140 to 147 which is a pretty big factor. Add PK's point about past the 30 age barrier and maybe throw in your point about Rungvisai having his number too. But Rungvisai has had a lot of numbers-44-4-1 with 40 KOs?? Give Chocolatito credit for going up in weight to face this guy and probably winning the first fight.

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