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  • SHO
    Give us a raise, loser!
    • Mar 2005
    • 2045

    #391
    Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

    Originally posted by popttart
    that sucks, do they pull that on ps3 where they will pull there cord or shut there system off when they lose?
    Yup.

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    • Stumbleweed
      Livin' the dream
      • Oct 2006
      • 6279

      #392
      Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

      Actually, an armbar from mount is easier to submit someone with than a rear naked choke. The same hierarchy shown in that pyramid of ground positions applies to subs as far as I'm aware: Mount --> Back Control --> Side Control or North/South --> Half Guard Up --> Half Guard Down --> Open Guard Up --> Open Guard Down

      Not sure where Offensive Sprawl fits into that, but FWIW, it's been pretty easy to submit people with Guillotine Chokes in my experience, probably just as easy as a rear naked choke from back control.

      I basically never press the buttons to initiate subs or break out of them (used if a few times with Rampage for brute force escapes)... I might try it sometime with a more technical guy, but I have great success with the shine... I've only been submitted online once I believe (thanks DaKKoN) and it was due to a countered Judo sweep to rear naked choke... I didn't even know what was happening until it was too late.
      Last edited by Stumbleweed; 06-03-2009, 02:17 PM.
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      • popttart
        Rookie
        • Jun 2009
        • 38

        #393
        Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

        add me up stumbleweed if you got xbox, were have a match or two, sounds fun. popttart

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        • popttart
          Rookie
          • Jun 2009
          • 38

          #394
          Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

          well, i am off, i will be on later, peice, want a good match add me up on xbox

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          • MONO
            Rookie
            • Feb 2005
            • 14

            #395
            Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

            I have a gapping hole in my game and that’s in the clinch. I’ve had it done to me so I know it exists but I can’t figure out how to defend or counter the takedown in the clinch. I played a judo specialist and he kept tossing me on my head, Any tips would be much appreciated.

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            • sb24
              MVP
              • Dec 2008
              • 3165

              #396
              Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

              Originally posted by MONO
              I have a gapping hole in my game and that’s in the clinch. I’ve had it done to me so I know it exists but I can’t figure out how to defend or counter the takedown in the clinch. I played a judo specialist and he kept tossing me on my head, Any tips would be much appreciated.
              Are you holding the R stick back? Its the same as blocking any transition.

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              • MONO
                Rookie
                • Feb 2005
                • 14

                #397
                Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                Originally posted by sb24
                Are you holding the R stick back? Its the same as blocking any transition.
                So r u saying just view it as if we're on the ground? hold the R stick left or right to block and a well time flick left or right counters?

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                • sb24
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3165

                  #398
                  Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                  Originally posted by MONO
                  So r u saying just view it as if we're on the ground? hold the R stick left or right to block and a well time flick left or right counters?
                  Yea thats pretty much it as far as i know.

                  In fact one time while blocking i put a guy directly into a guillitine choke after he tried to throw me. I think only wrestling has the choke as a block but im not sure.

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                  • Stickum11
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 19

                    #399
                    Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                    Is anyone playing on the PS3. Not sure if it is any different, but the ground game is getting to be pretty ********.... I can hold back the RS all day and the computer just passes my guard all day long. Even when they shoot I hit the RS back to avoid and it works like 5% of the time maybe. If I am on top the computer counters every match and always ends up in mount. I can knock people out, but I'm only playing on experienced and no matter who I am or who the computer is or what I do I get crushed on the ground. I'm doing everything right, but It's like the randomness of the game is really dumb and starting to wear on me. Also online is a joke, there is atleast a one and a half second lag... Online is just me being fed up. But please help on the ground game! Or I like the game's goin on the shelf.

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                    • Stumbleweed
                      Livin' the dream
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6279

                      #400
                      Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                      Originally posted by sb24
                      Yea thats pretty much it as far as i know.

                      In fact one time while blocking i put a guy directly into a guillitine choke after he tried to throw me. I think only wrestling has the choke as a block but im not sure.
                      For the strong (and possibly weak, can't remember) Judo throws, there is a flick counter that results in a rear naked choke. There is a counter for the wrestling slam (strong one where they put their head under your arm) that results in a guillotine choke. I don't think you have to be a certain discipline for either, though I think I've only seen BJJ guys do that counter... DaKKoN got me with it as Bisping when I attempted a wrestling slam with Hendo.

                      Also, the absolute best way to defend the single-collar tie and non-whip MT Clinch attacks is to flick RS to "catch" the punch/knee just like you do when standing. Wait until they start spamming the uppercuts and then flick up (or down if they're going with kicks or low punches) and you'll reverse the clinch, which is especially useful for MT guys. It works every time and now that tactic plays right into my hands...

                      I have more problems with the MT clinch whip knees, but flicking RS right as they grab you seems to get you out of it most of the time. However, it seems that once you've been successfully whipped, the chances go way down and you pretty much have to block a few and then try flicking the stick again when they're cuing you up.
                      Last edited by Stumbleweed; 06-03-2009, 04:45 PM.
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                      • Ruffy
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1516

                        #401
                        Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                        Originally posted by NOBLE
                        LMAO.

                        Simple works just fine in ranked matches.

                        And I should try to press all four. I've only been hitting two buttons as fast as possible.
                        Doh ive only been pressing the circle button!
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                        • Salhus
                          He can talk the talk
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 1799

                          #402
                          Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                          Just fought a CAF online with 115 sub offense. Hows that possible?

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                          • Sandman42
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 15186

                            #403
                            Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                            Originally posted by Salhus
                            Just fought a CAF online with 115 sub offense. Hows that possible?
                            Any of the CAF's can get over 100 of a certain skill. I fought someone online who had 115 kicks and all he did was try and throw headkicks at me. He was gassed after a minute and I took him down and submitted him with a kimura.
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                            • ElroyJetson
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1860

                              #404
                              Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                              rampage jackson's clinch is impossible to get out of he kept putting me in it and eventually beat me
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                              • Heelfan71
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 19940

                                #405
                                Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                                Originally posted by Sandman42
                                Any of the CAF's can get over 100 of a certain skill. I fought someone online who had 115 kicks and all he did was try and throw headkicks at me. He was gassed after a minute and I took him down and submitted him with a kimura.
                                fought a guy just like that. He was 6'6" too but I KO'd him with Machida. Constantly caught his head kicks and took him down. Dude did not throw any punches or any low kicks, ALL head kicks.
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