OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

[KENYON06]

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What does the strength attribute do exactly? I had a look through the manual and it only explained cardio. Does it just make brute force escapes easier or does it affect striking too?

And I'm having a bitch of a time with submissions against the cpu. One guy I took through career, he was not even a submission guy but I could make the sparring partner tap 2 times per session and I could make the opponent tap in matches easily. Now I've got a BJJ guy and his sub O and D are both 80 (way better than the other guy) and I can't sub anyone, nor can I escape a sub, even if I have good stamina remaining. Is it because I am in a different weightclass? It was easy to sub the guys in LHW, but now im in middleweight. Like I couldnt even make those jobbers tap, not even close..

[Stickum11]

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Does anyone know when the time to try a submission on EXPERT level is? I have been fighting Anderson Silva with Henderson for the last couple days. I get him all the way down to the yellow bar and he still gets out like 3-4 times a match. I just block his transitions until he is totally yellow and try to submit. Usually I try the submission from side mount, is this the reason?

[dbly32]

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He caught your upkick and went to side control? I have yet to see that, not sure how it's done. The only thing I've seen is when I have a guy in the MT clinch and he catches one of my knees for a takedown. As for getting better at reversals, go into training mode and set the opponent to CPU action (or whichever one makes him try to get you on the ground) and set the level to advanced/expert. Wait for the cpu to try to get your fighter on the ground and then try to reverse the transitions by flicking the right stick right/left (I think I mostly do it in the direction of the cpu fighter). For me, escaping the MT clinch or single collar clinch is more hit or miss, I was playing as Machida against a guy as Evans and he destroyed me in the single collar. As for making himself fall on the ground, Muay Thai guys can do that when standing by pressing L1+right stick back, they will drop into the butt scoot position. They can also pull guard the same way when in the clinch. To turn the stamina bar on when playing online, just go into options before you go into online mode and turn the stamina bar on.

[Salhus]

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Whats the best way to defend when you are in the single collar clinch? Can the right stick be used? If so, how? Thanks

[SHO]

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Whats the best way to defend when you are in the single collar clinch? Can the right stick be used? If so, how? Thanks

Get a timing of their punch/knee and counter grapple accordingly.

[Qb]

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I still haven´t gotten one succesful submission win, what´s up with that. I have created 2 stand up fighters just for the fact that it´s impossible to win on a submission against the CPU on any decent level... ANyone who get consistant submission wins against the CPU?

If Advanced is a "decent level", then yes and I am by no means a master of the game. I've only had a few multiple hour sessions with the game, but just the other night I choked out Bradley with Alves (just kept rematching to skip load/intro) a handful of times with the triangle from rubber guard and rear-naked after he rolled out of mount. In fact, I don't think he escaped a single submission attempt by me (probably 4 sub wins in 7 or 8 fights)...

If you haven't already, turn on the stamina bars. Don't go for a sub until your opponent's energy is very low -- you should see a small amount of red or even better, all yellow. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that if the energy is completely drained during the submission attempt, he will tap. As he attempts to escape the submission, his energy will go down, so the less he starts with, the better the chance of success.

Blocking transitions is the best way to drain an opponent's energy to set up a sub. A typical scenario would be to take your opponent down, advance to a more advantageous position (side control, north/south, mount) as this increases the likelihood of success. While you're working your way into a better position, you'll have to block transitions. With the meter on, you'll be able to see when he's tired himself out -- again, a little red or all yellow, not when you see green -- and when you should go for the kill.

I'm at the point now where I'm going to turn off the meters, which will make it tougher to know when to go for it. But at least now I understand how it works and know to wait & pick my spot. I think the key to successful submissions is PATIENCE. Is it the most realistic system? Maybe not, but once you're familiar with how the system works, tap out wins are quite achievable. Well, on Advanced anyways... not man enough for Expert yet.

[Jimmy_Fairplay]

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I'd love a list of everyone's, say, top three tactics for victory. Not cheese, but just the most effective strategies.

I have a big match planned against a buddy of mine on the weekend, with a whole pile of bragging rights on the line. Problem is, he's had the game since launch and I just got it, so I need to get up to speed fast!

Thanks for the tips everybody, they were very helpful. I went 3-2 against him using the strategies mentioned. My three wins included two knockouts and one submission, while his victories were judges' decisions (both were 29-28, 29-28, 29-28). Needless to say, I did more of the bragging.

[Salhus]

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Im fascinated with Anderson Silva and I love to fight with him (even though he isnt a southpaw.). However, I struggle to execute effectively with his muay thai clinch.

Can someone help me out with a detailed explanation of how to?

Heres what I know: the basic whips and how to knee the body/head.

Heres what I dont know: how to simply maintain the clinch itself, how to avoid a counter grapple and getting reversed into the clinch by the opponent.

Ive seen Silva just have a death grip on that clinch and his opponents seem helpless and unable to escape. Can I not replicate that? Is there any sort of transition block? Is it all about timing?

Thanks

[SHO]

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Heres what I dont know: how to simply maintain the clinch itself, how to avoid a counter grapple and getting reversed into the clinch by the opponent.

Ive seen Silva just have a death grip on that clinch and his opponents seem helpless and unable to escape. Can I not replicate that? Is there any sort of transition block? Is it all about timing?

Thanks

You can't replicate that in this game. Either the opponent counters by grappling or predicting the sway correctly, brute escapes his way out, you release it voluntarily or you'll get fatigued and the hold will break automatically.

The best thing to do is to throw knees and sway them in different directions with a different timing. Most of the time, people will simply hold block to avoid knees to the head because it's safer and they're baiting you into throwing a body knee so they can counter grapple. Knowing this, I simply hold them in the clinch, sway them and knee to the body once. While they wait for the second knee, I just wait until they try and punch their way out and then I throw the knee to the face or I move into the single tie clinch for a couple of punches before transitioning back into the MT clinch. The thing is that those inactive guys is that there's no need to rush it, if you feel tired just wait because you'll still get the speedy recovery that comes with the clinch.

[Heelfan71]

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I can't get squat for points in sparring in career mode. 30 points is a good spar for me I try to KO them and never have enough time. I try and take them down and get stuffed.

[Salhus]

Thanks. Pretty much explained everything perfectly

[dbly32]

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Another thing you can do is throw punches from the MT clinch which will put them in the single collar clinch. Then you can press L1 + right stick to get them back in the MT clinch and continue. I played as Anderson a few times today and earned two knockouts via the whip knees. Knowing that doing work in the MT clinch drains your energy quickly, I would throw a knee strike and then stop for a few seconds, letting my energy return to normal before throwing another one. Also you can throw whip knees to the body, as most players will try to block the head when you start the whip. Always remember that you have lots of options when you have someone in the MT clinch: punches, knees to the body, knees to the thighs, whip knees to the head, and whip knees to the body.

I had a hell of a time today, for some reason I was just not on my game at all. My record before today was I believe 58-18, and I think I'm like 70-27-1 after today. I suffered a few really embarrassing losses, twice I was knocked out with the first punch of the fight, and twice I was beaten without landing a strike to the opponent. Another time I was beating up on a guy, got careless and threw a dumb punch or kick from too far away and got knocked out by a head kick. It was just a bad time all around, I was getting beat by guys who had no business beating me. I also realized that I have a really hard time when the fighters stay on their feet, I always get tagged by guys who lunge in with heavy hooks and I never seem to get the better of the exchange when I play against a guy that has similar skill to mine.

[Salhus]

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^thanks. That should help out. Im very similar to you, record wise and fight style. I also find myself losing when I try to win a fight a certain way. Ill try to either sub or try to control the match instead of taking whatever the opponent gives me.

[Salhus]

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What are the special submissions that bjj fighters can perform? And how do you do them? All i know is north/south choke. Do you hold L1 and click RS for that? Or is it just normal?

[dbly32]

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Yeah it should be that. I'm pretty sure they all have the same submissions, armbar/triangle choke from mount, kimura from half guard/side control, kneebar from up/down position, guillotine choke from sprawl. Also there's flying armbar from the single collar clinch, that might be a special BJJ submission, L1 plus RS.