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[UFCMPunk]

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So why now with a start up wrestling company no less, would Warner want to air wrassling all these years later? They wanted nothing to do with it after WCW so quite curious why they jump back in after all these years.



I mean it would have made more sense to compete with USA on the rights to air RAW and go with a proven company than a start up company. Or at least see if New Japan wanted a better showcase for their shows rather AXS TV.

[OSUFan_88]

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So why now with a start up wrestling company no less, would Warner want to air wrassling all these years later? They wanted nothing to do with it after WCW so quite curious why they jump back in after all these years.



I mean it would have made more sense to compete with USA on the rights to air RAW and go with a proven company than a start up company. Or at least see if New Japan wanted a better showcase for their shows rather AXS TV.

NJPW, especially without Omega, Young Bucks and Jericho has no US appeal. Not to mention their cement shoes they have attached in ROH.

WCW was dying and TNT doesn't have the money to afford RAW. AEW is the first company since WCW that has legit national appeal to launch.

[Brother Love]

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Was listening to Bryan Alvarez on the radio, and someone said AEW was not getting TV rights money, and he said something like, "yes, they are getting TV rights money. It's not gonna be as much as WWE, but they will be getting paid."

Gee, no kidding. That's like saying I'll pay you to work for me. I won't be paying you 100k per year, but you will get paid. And then you end up making minimum wage. For some reason that annoyed me lol.

Hard to be believe a dirt sheet guy couldn’t talk in more than vague generalities.


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[redsox4evur]

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Harder to believe the reports of the TV details were initially reported by a Philadelphia Eagles beat guy.

Also Alvarez is full of crap. He reported that the Revival are 100% going to AEW because they took pictures with 2 AEW fans at a WWE house show like 3/4 months ago.

[aholbert32]

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https://www.cagesideseats.com/2019/5/15/18627070/aew-television-contract-tnt-details-rights-fees-production-costs-debate

There are no rights fees for AEW. They are getting 500k an episode (which isnt really that much when it comes to episodic programming) but pretty much all of that is to pay for production. AEW could save money while producing and keep some of it but usually 50-70% goes back to the network.

I think the play here is to use TNT to get decent ratings and try to leverage that into a better deal with TNT next year or another network.

[SmashMan]

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Was listening to Bryan Alvarez on the radio, and someone said AEW was not getting TV rights money, and he said something like, "yes, they are getting TV rights money. It's not gonna be as much as WWE, but they will be getting paid."

Gee, no kidding. That's like saying I'll pay you to work for me. I won't be paying you 100k per year, but you will get paid. And then you end up making minimum wage. For some reason that annoyed me lol.

Sounds about right.

So why now with a start up wrestling company no less, would Warner want to air wrassling all these years later? They wanted nothing to do with it after WCW so quite curious why they jump back in after all these years.

Because there are different people in charge who have different feelings on programming than the people who were there in a different time period who made a different choice?

tl;dr - different people make different decisions

[PeoplesChampGB]

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Sounds about right.



Because there are different people in charge who have different feelings on programming than the people who were there in a different time period who made a different choice?

tl;dr - different people make different decisions

If I remember correctly, the same people that didn't want WCW was in charge of the AOL/Time Warner merger that lost millions of dollars.

[Brandwin]

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$50 for Double or Nothing, yuck! I may cave but I doubt it.

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[OSUFan_88]

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If I remember correctly, the same people that didn't want WCW was in charge of the AOL/Time Warner merger that lost millions of dollars.

You are correct.

Probably a massive mistake, too. Look at how much Universal/NBC has gotten out of WWE, a massive cash cow for them. Hell, WWE is heading towards primetime non-cable channel for a show that's not even their flagship.

Turner made a huge mistake and now they are going to try and rectify this with AEW. If it works, they have a cash cow on their channel.

[SPTO]

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You are correct.

Probably a massive mistake, too. Look at how much Universal/NBC has gotten out of WWE, a massive cash cow for them. Hell, WWE is heading towards primetime non-cable channel for a show that's not even their flagship.

Turner made a huge mistake and now they are going to try and rectify this with AEW. If it works, they have a cash cow on their channel.

Correct, even when WCW was dying (though i've seen in some places some retroactive history saying things were starting to change creatively over the last couple months of WCWs history) they were still pulling in really good ratings. Obviously it was nowhere near WWF at the time but it was one of the better performing cable shows.

The people running Warner today are completely different than the bozos who had no love for wrestling at all. Those people were outright EMBARRASSED to have wrestling on Turner networks. The only reason WCW lasted as long as it did was because Ted had a loyalty to the brand since Mid-Atlantic/JCP were one of the two pillars of TBS. (The other being the Braves) Once Ted personally lost control of his companies that's when WCW's days were numbered.


As for this deal for AEW, this is great and they're on a high profile platform. I just hope TSN tries to acquire Canadian rights.

[PeoplesChampGB]

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Maybe someone knows. I know that paid attendance was bad for WCW, but I believe they were pulling in higher ratings than the WWE product does now. But of course, times and access to channels have changed.

[Brother Love]

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Maybe someone knows. I know that paid attendance was bad for WCW, but I believe they were pulling in higher ratings than the WWE product does now. But of course, times and access to channels have changed.

There is a reason a guy like Easy E who has worked in tv for 40 years continually has to talk about how the ratings figures don’t mean jack in 2019, that they want to know total viewership and that’s it.

All because the late 90’s wrestling.


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[SPTO]

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Maybe someone knows. I know that paid attendance was bad for WCW, but I believe they were pulling in higher ratings than the WWE product does now. But of course, times and access to channels have changed.

It's an apple to oranges comparison and while the numbers WWE pulls in now is a bit concerning it is also not surprising considering media fragmentation and the crappy product. The numbers by themselves are actually really good though.

[OSUFan_88]

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I'm curious to see what happens when WWE is on Fox proper and what ratings they will pull in.

[Majingir]

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Cody saying AEW won't have scripted promos.

Will be interesting to see what that ends up like. Therrs a big difference between scripted promos vs talking points.

WWEs scripted promos are so strict, people have 0 idea what to do if they forget their lines or things go off track. Look at Rousey, Angle, or anyone else who isnt a regular. They all struggled at times because of that.

Even seeing Cena and the stuff he's done outside WWE, he's so much funnier in real life vs WWE. If that guy was the one we had in wwe, people would probably like him more.