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  • georgiafan
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    #406
    Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

    76ers Potential Trade Targets


    76ers Trade Assets

    Collin Sexton - 83 ovr (24) - not reached full potential - locked up 25 million per for 3 years
    Dane Toole - 83 ovr (25) - reached potential
    Shareef O'neal - 78 ovr (23) - rookie contract
    TLC - 80 ovr (27) final year of deal 4 million
    T.J McConnell - 80 ovr (30) - final year of deal 7 million
    17th pick (this year)
    2023 Wizards (lottery protected)
    2023 Thunder (lottery protected)
    2023 Knicks (top 10 protected)
    2023 76ers



    Devin Booker



    Why it makes sense
    He has yet to play in a single playoff game in fact he hasn’t even got close despite a loaded team on paper for years. Sometimes if things are not working you need to make a move just shake things up. The suns can get pack a package of assets they could set themselves up for years to come. If not they don't trade him they risk losing him for nothing down the line.

    Why It doesn’t Make sense
    I don’t think the 76ers are going to be willing to give up the assets it would take to get him. The suns are going to want Luka Samanic as part of the deal. The 76ers likely will not give him up with Embiid going into the last year of his deal and injured. If they don't give up Samamnic they will have to trade a lot of the future 1st rounders.

    Projected Lineup
    PG – Fultz
    SG – Booker
    SF – Simmons
    PF – Bol
    C – Embiid

    Fit
    His lack of defense wouldn’t be a problem and his role would be to score without any pressure of being the guy. The fear would be giving up so much for a shooting specialist that cant play defense and isn’t athletic

    Assets to Give Up
    Samanic + Sexton + future 1st + filler



    Josh Jackson



    Why he would be traded
    He isn’t starting and won’t beat out Michael Porter or Booker anytime soon. He can play the 4, but that takes away from his perimeter defense and they have Chriss (86 ovr). The suns could trade a non-starter and get a new bench. They also have the 5th pick and could bring in a F with that pick as a few or worthy of that pick. They can use all these assets for another trade down if they need to make a big move or trade up. He is also a RFA so will be getting big $ this offseason does it make sense to pay luxury tax to the same players that have been in the top 5 forever?

    Why he wouldn’t be traded
    He is arguably the best young 3 & D player in the country and if they think they will be much improved this year he is a valuable asset.

    Projected Lineup
    PG – Simmons
    SG – Fultz
    SF – Josh Jackson
    PF – Bol
    C – Embiid

    Fit This would be a perfect fit as he fits the 3 & D mold of the current players on the roster. He would be able to take over Covington’s role as the main defender and he is pushing mid 30’s. His athletic skills would be a upgrade and should be able to guard the elite 2 guards.

    Assets to Give Up
    Sexton + Toole + 17th pick + future 1st + filler



    Lebron James



    Why he would be traded He is entering the final year of his contract and the Knicks didn’t make the playoffs this year. They are rumors Lebron could demand a trade this offseason. You risk losing him for nothing if you wait or lowering the leverage if he demands a trade. Unless you can shake things up and make a championship squad you set your future up and can easily build around Donic and KP who are mid 20’s. If he comes to Philly he has a chance to win 2 or 3 more rings and get closer to Jordans 6.

    Why he wouldn’t be traded The big 3 of Lebron, Doncic and Porzingis just seems way to talented to not ever make the finals. He is 37 still he is at the top of his game and will play for at least 2 more years.

    Projected Lineup
    PG – Simmons
    SG – Fultz
    SF – Lebron
    PF – Bol
    C - Embiid

    Fit
    He would have to adjust to not being the ball handler and playing off the ball.

    Assets to Give Up
    Sexton + Toole + TLC + O’neal + 17th pick + future 1st



    Damian Lillard



    Why he would be traded
    One of the hardest things to do in sports is deciding when to break up your championship caliber squad and if you should you make 1 more try at winning it all. Mark Gasol has announced this will be his last year and Lillard 31 and McCollum is 30. The blazers made it to the WCF this past year so you can still compete and grab future assets. Lillards best years are behind him so at best he has 1 maybe 2 years left at the level. You have the chance to get a young guard to replace plus the starting SF you desperately need plus a future draft pick.

    Why he wouldn’t be traded
    They decide to give one more run at a ring knowing he can always be traded at the deadline.

    Projected Lineup
    PG – Lillard
    SG – Fultz
    SF – Simmons
    PF – Bol
    C – Embiid

    Fit
    The fit is a bit off basically playing 2 PG’s that shouldn’t be a major issue with the height of the other key guys. His defense wont be a issue with all the defense guys on the team and he would be the dynamite scorer this team needs even if it is off the bench

    Assets to Give Up
    Sexton + Toole + O’neal + filler



    Victor Oladpio



    Why he would be traded
    The pacers have been stuck middle ground forever and haven’t made the playoffs for a few years. He is a aging star and this creates a youth movement. He also has a player option for next year where he likely opts out to create one more big pay day. You get a few key players and can still compete for a playoff spot.

    Why he wouldn’t be traded
    Another move would have to be made as the Pacers have to many big’s and would be trading away its best wing.

    Projected Lineup
    PG – Fultz
    SG - Victor
    SF – Simmons
    PF – Bol
    C – Embiid

    Fit
    A good fit and should come at a cheaper price then the other guys on the list. The biggest question is what can of defense player are you getting as he is over 30.

    Assets to Give Up
    Sexton + futre 1st + filler



    Malik Monk



    Why he would be traded
    The hornets may have the worst roster in the NBA and even though Monk is the best player on the team it may be time to start over again and build around the 3rd overall pick. You get a slightly worse player and pick up a draft pick. This is the easiest and less sexy of any of the trades.

    Why he wouldn’t be traded
    The 76ers have bigger targets and dreams for this offseason

    Projected Lineup
    PG – Fultz
    SG - Monk
    SF – Simmons
    PF – Bol
    C – Embiid

    Fit
    This would be a easy fit he could come off the bench next year and take over as the starting 2 guard next year. He would be more then just a 3 & D guy and is a true 2 guard.

    Assets to Give Up
    Sexton + filler
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    • georgiafan
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      #407
      Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

      Feedback wanted
      If anyone is reading this I would love to hear which of the names above makes sense and which ones don't. I know the top 2 in my head, but if everyone else says the same name let me know and I'll go with that person. I plan to post the top 10 UFA tomorrow and all of those guys I could prob do a sign and trade for from the $ side of things.


      Originally posted by trekfan
      Dwight Howard in the Hall? I got questions. Very debatable in my mind, his post-2011 years have been rather middling.



      As for the draft, look at the Outlaws! Jumping up all the way from 7th best odds.



      And of course the Clippers blow it and get stuck at four. The curse lives on.
      Howard I don't think I would put in the hall even though I think he is a better player now then he gets credit for.

      Yea the clippers have been a complete non factor for me and Blake is now a FA. I will likely look to sign and trade him to a playoff team.

      The outlaws should contend for a playoff spot they have another young player and should have cap space to sign a big name.
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      • trekfan
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        #408
        Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

        Originally posted by georgiafan
        Feedback wanted
        If anyone is reading this I would love to hear which of the names above makes sense and which ones don't. I know the top 2 in my head, but if everyone else says the same name let me know and I'll go with that person. I plan to post the top 10 UFA tomorrow and all of those guys I could prob do a sign and trade for from the $ side of things.




        Howard I don't think I would put in the hall even though I think he is a better player now then he gets credit for.

        Yea the clippers have been a complete non factor for me and Blake is now a FA. I will likely look to sign and trade him to a playoff team.

        The outlaws should contend for a playoff spot they have another young player and should have cap space to sign a big name.



        Ohhh, interesting choices. I would like LeBron, but can the Knicks really afford to do that? They'd never live it down. Even Dolan isn't that suicidal and it could absolutely make KP and Donic reconsider their choices come their free agency.



        I'm leaning towards Josh Jackson, Lillard, and Oladipo. I think Jackson in the obvious choice, especially considering he's not even starting -- the Suns would get plenty of assets back and might finally be able to get out of the lottery. I think they'd be very reticent to trade Booker (likely their leading scorer), so Jackson -- a defensive guy with some shooting chops -- would be a great candidate to move for bench+assets.
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        • jeremym480
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          #409
          Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

          Originally posted by georgiafan
          Feedback wanted
          If anyone is reading this I would love to hear which of the names above makes sense and which ones don't. I know the top 2 in my head, but if everyone else says the same name let me know and I'll go with that person. I plan to post the top 10 UFA tomorrow and all of those guys I could prob do a sign and trade for from the $ side of things.




          Howard I don't think I would put in the hall even though I think he is a better player now then he gets credit for.

          Yea the clippers have been a complete non factor for me and Blake is now a FA. I will likely look to sign and trade him to a playoff team.

          The outlaws should contend for a playoff spot they have another young player and should have cap space to sign a big name.

          Of those trades, I like Dipo the best followed by Jackson or Monk. I tend to agree with Trekfan on Booker but if they're terrible again then he should be attainable at the trade deadline. I don't think New York would want to trade LeBron and in my opinion you really need Lillard since you have Fultz.

          I don't know what the players contracts situations are and what their teams looks like but I'd imagine that Dipo is probably tired of being stuck on a treadmill team and would be okay with a slightly smaller role if he landed on a super team (which I think you would be pretty close to with him). Monk seems like he would be a really nice fit, and swapping him would Sexton certainly makes since for you since you already have Simmons and Fultz as your primary ball handlers and Sexton is probably the most successful with the ball in his hands.. Jackson would probably be a perfect 3&D guy for you but with it almost seems like Phoenix could be a sleeping giant with Booker, Porter, etc plus the 4th pick. With that said, depending on their need for a PG then that trade could be a good one for them.


          Lastly, in regards to Howard
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          • trekfan
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            #410
            Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

            Originally posted by jeremym480

            Lastly, in regards to Howard and the HoF I think he makes it in. He's been down over the last few years and I think that makes people forget just how dominate he was during his time in Orlando. 8x All Star, 5x All-Defense, 5x Rebound leader, 3x Defensive Player of the Year, 2x Block Champ. He hasn't necessarily been a "winning player" but he's been on of the most dominate defensive big men during his time in the league. I mean, if Mo Cheeks can make it in then surely Dwight can.... and I say all of this as someone who has strongly disliked him throughout most of his career. The best part of his career for me was that Stan Van Gundy interview where Dwight popped in and acted like everything was fine. That's a HOF worthy awkward interview if I've ever seen one.



            Oh, that SVG interview was fantastic, I had forgotten about that. Further thoughts on Dwight ...
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            • georgiafan
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              #411
              Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

              Originally posted by trekfan
              Ohhh, interesting choices. I would like LeBron, but can the Knicks really afford to do that? They'd never live it down. Even Dolan isn't that suicidal and it could absolutely make KP and Donic reconsider their choices come their free agency.

              I'm leaning towards Josh Jackson, Lillard, and Oladipo. I think Jackson in the obvious choice, especially considering he's not even starting -- the Suns would get plenty of assets back and might finally be able to get out of the lottery. I think they'd be very reticent to trade Booker (likely their leading scorer), so Jackson -- a defensive guy with some shooting chops -- would be a great candidate to move for bench+assets.
              Originally posted by jeremym480
              Of those trades, I like Dipo the best followed by Jackson or Monk. I tend to agree with Trekfan on Booker but if they're terrible again then he should be attainable at the trade deadline. I don't think New York would want to trade LeBron and in my opinion you really need Lillard since you have Fultz.

              I don't know what the players contracts situations are and what their teams looks like but I'd imagine that Dipo is probably tired of being stuck on a treadmill team and would be okay with a slightly smaller role if he landed on a super team (which I think you would be pretty close to with him). Monk seems like he would be a really nice fit, and swapping him would Sexton certainly makes since for you since you already have Simmons and Fultz as your primary ball handlers and Sexton is probably the most successful with the ball in his hands.. Jackson would probably be a perfect 3&D guy for you but with it almost seems like Phoenix could be a sleeping giant with Booker, Porter, etc plus the 4th pick. With that said, depending on their need for a PG then that trade could be a good one for them.


              Lastly, in regards to Howard
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              Phoenix is loaded the problem is they have been loaded for 5 years and haven't even got close to the playoffs. Even when you take out Jackson they have Booker and Porter like 90 overall, Chriss 86 overall. Then have a young PG with A defense and two centers all are like 23 former top 10 picks with low 80's overall. They also have a top 5 pick rookie that will be coming in which should be somewhere mid 70's with A potential. Jackson is the guy that I have been wanting and while Phoenix's starting 5 has been loaded they haven't had much of a bench .

              I def like the story that getting LeBron makes and just not sure how realistic it is for him to be traded from New York.

              Victor is a safe option I need to see what his rating does when I move him to 2 guard which is what he would be playing for me. I moved him to SF as the pacers have had KCP for a few years. The pacers don't have cap space to bring in someone big as they have some young big's that are due for a raise.

              I like the offense that Lillard brings just I don't really need a PG with Fultz, T.J and Ben so I would like a 2 or 3.
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              • georgiafan
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                #412
                Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                Top 10 UFA


                Kevin Durant

                Prediction He just won his 5th championship so he will be going back to Golden State with what should be a better supporting cast .

                Expected Salary 32 million per year





                Stephen Curry

                Prediction He just tied Jordan with 6 rings so no chance he leaves Golden State at this stage of his career. It looks like he is willing to take a hometown discount so expect some moves to be made to reshape the team and add youth and a 3rd scorer.

                Expected Salary 26.5 million per year





                Paul George

                Prediction The Lakers went from WCF to out of the playoffs and now Paul faces a huge decision. The Lakers on paper should bounce back with a big 4 of George, Ball, Ingram and Klay Thompson they just need some bigs. If the lakers wanted to go younger they could do a sign and trade him and Klay over 30.

                Expected Salary 32 million per





                Chris Paul

                Prediction The Rockets really need to find someone that will do a sign and trade as the big 3 of Hardin, Paul and Clint didn’t make the playoffs this year and have never made the finals. They are paying so much to Paul and Hardin they have had the worst bench in the league for years. They are a lot of teams that will call and ask about him just he has to find the right team to spend his last 2 years before he joins the hall of fame.

                Expected Salary 28 million per





                Blake Griffin

                Prediction Its hard to see him going back to the Clippers at 33 so he is another sign and trade candidate. Like most of the names on this list this will be his last big payday. He will have to lower is asking price though as nobody is going to pay him 40 million unless he goes to a expansion team.

                Expected Is asking for 40 million per





                Isaiah Thomas

                Prediction He has is faults but is a skilled offense player who has played his last few years in Denver so will likely be headed elsewhere. Denver has some younger G’s on the roster and have a few more younger people they will pay ahead of him this summer. It would have to be the right fit for him to bring him in with a interesting team we have heard is the Warriors to team up with Curry and Durant.

                Expected Price 34.5 million per year





                Deandre Jordan

                Prediction Boston is likely to let him go as they are way deep in the luxury tax with the leagues highest payroll. He still has A+ defense and rebounding, but that’s all he can do at this stage of his career. Boston can find a cheaper player to round out the starting 5 with the core of Brown, Tatum, Irving, Bamba and Ball. He will have to lower his asking price to about 15 million.

                Expected Price 31.5 million





                Hassan Whiteside

                Prediction He will come at the fraction of the cost and is basically the same player as Jordan. The heat are expected to go younger so he will likely have a new team on a 2 year deal. Just about every playoff team will come calling for him at his asking price.

                Expected Price 9.3 million





                Ike Anigobogu

                Prediction The young PF is a near lock to return to Denver and this is another reason why IT is likely gone. He is the perfect defender and rebounder to play along Jokic. The Nuggets will be a interesting team this offseason with Gary Harris and Isaiah's contracts also up. If he can improve his scoring he will be a all star and is only 23.

                Expected price 23.5 million per





                Jabari Parker

                Prediction The Bucks are another team with the same core for years that’s likely due for a shakeup. Middleton also has a player option that he is expected to accept. He is only 27 so he will be in his prime for a few years. We expect both Parker and Middleton to be on a new team next year. A Parker for Draymond Green is a trade we have heard rumored.

                Expected Price 28 million per





                Others
                Avery Bradley
                85 ovr (31)
                Expected 16 million per
                The Pistons will likely bring him back for one last Farwell tour

                T.J Warren 84 ovr (28)
                Expected 25 million per
                He will be lucky to get half that amount

                Frank Ntilikina
                84 ovr (23)
                Expected 23 million per
                Will Lebron want him back ?

                Evan Fournier
                84 ovr (29)
                Expected 28.5 million per
                A good 6 man who will eventually lower his $ demands

                Demar Derozan
                84 ovr(32)
                Expected 18 million per
                Its time for the Raptors to embrace the tank
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                • trekfan
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                  #413
                  Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                  Surprised to see Whiteside demand so little! At that price, I'd bring him aboard as a starter for sure. Great write-up, looking forward to seeing where those big names end up.
                  Any comments are welcome.
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                  • georgiafan
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                    #414
                    Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                    The last few years The offseason has lost the fun for me so last night I tweaked some things salary wise so now I’m excited and will have some bigger moves.

                    Yea I was shocked whitside wanted so little I wish more player his age would demand a normal amount

                    Thanks I try to keep the write ups like that shorter so they are easier to read.

                    Yea whitesi


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                    • georgiafan
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                      #415
                      Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                      2022 NBA Draft

                      Here are the draft results with a few players whose draft rights are still waiting to become official











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                      • trekfan
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                        Hmm, questionable pick by the Mavericks -- got to wonder what they saw in a kid who wasn't going to come over for two years.



                        The Nets seemed to grab a steal, surprised someone rated the same as the 1st overall pick slipped to 6th, Brooklyn finally getting some luck.
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                        • georgiafan
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                          #417
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                          Trade Alerts



                          Warriors Take
                          Lets get started with the big trade as a new big 3 is formed with Chris Paul joining Durant and Curry. They desperately needed a 3rd scorer and this pushes Marcus Smart back to a more comfortable bench role. They still have depth down low Green, Looney and Wiley we would expect a true Center to be added during FA unless Green is traded.

                          Rockets Take
                          They missed the playoffs last year and Chris Paul is 37 so some youth was needed on the team. This finally give them some breathing room with cap space. Bell is locked up for 2 more years and he will be the PF this team has needed for many years. Anthony Brown will start at SF another major issue the last few years. Keller is a young SG who could get some minutes and you get a late 1st. They could also trade Bell at the deadline for expiring contract and 1st round pick if they want to start over.



                          Nuggets Take
                          Anthony returns home to Denver where will he will fix there biggest need at SF and provide scoring. Saric will provide depth and both players are in the final year so no longterm $ is taking back. This also sets Denver up to make a trade at the deadline with two expiring deals. This also allows you to bring back two younger players and opens up more minutes for your PG with A+ potential.

                          Thunder Take
                          Saric never panned out as anything special for the thunder the good news is they have yet to pay the 1st rounder to the 76ers. Its a interesting pair as teaming Westbrook with Isaiah Thomas which will be fun to watch. Something had to be done to shake the team up as Anthony wasn't cutting it as a #2 scorer on championship team. Westbrook is in the final year of his deal so this might not be the last move the team makes.




                          Kings Take We haven't talked about how the Kings had a epic collapse going from the 3 seed to out of the playoffs in the final weeks. Fox is a legit star leading the NBA in scoring and they have a trio of quality young wings. Blake becomes the 2nd option and they no major pieces were given up. The kings had to many bigs in the low 80's range and now you clear two of them up. They can easily bring back UFA Giles back to replace the Minutes they lose here.

                          Clippers Take
                          The Clippers got lucky in the draft after dropping to 4 as they were a cluster of people in the same tier. This clears the way for the rookie PF Webber to play major minutes right away. They get a pair of young bigs that can be rotation players, but the big part of the deal was getting the 1st round pick. They also make the trade early in FA so they can bring in another player as this sheds some salary.
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                          • georgiafan
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                            Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                            Originally posted by trekfan
                            Hmm, questionable pick by the Mavericks -- got to wonder what they saw in a kid who wasn't going to come over for two years.



                            The Nets seemed to grab a steal, surprised someone rated the same as the 1st overall pick slipped to 6th, Brooklyn finally getting some luck.
                            I think the guy the Mavs took had really good potential I cant remember for sure overall the draft class was a little weak after the top 5. I may go back and bump up some of them up a little. The mavs are really loaded and have 18 million in cap space so they don't need a rookie on the roster.

                            I want to say the guy the Nets drafted could have had low potential I will have to back and look. I remember thinking I had a good reason why I didn't take him in the top 5 just cant remember what it is lol. I think the guy projected to go 1st overall was the guy the suns took who is hurt.
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                            • trekfan
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                              Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                              WOW, so many trades! CP3 to the Warriors? That must mean Steph is running as a SG (he shoots plenty so that should suit him fine). Can't believe the Rockets helped out their biggest rival ... Daryl Morey must be feeling some heat to make that trade.



                              Then 'Melo back to Denver! Isiah running point, Russell at SG (gonna hurt his triple-double pursuits but if they get a ring he'll be happy). Interesting move for the Nuggets ... can Melo lead them to glory again?


                              And Blake to Sacramento ... oh, how Blake must be feeling a bit betrayed. He was the face of the Clippers, helped turn them into a solid organization that wasn't derided around the league. LAC better be careful ... the Clippers curse is real and could strike again. The basketball gods might frown heavily on this.
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                              • zackebarsch10
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                                #420
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                                Originally posted by georgiafan
                                I think the guy the Mavs took had really good potential I cant remember for sure overall the draft class was a little weak after the top 5. I may go back and bump up some of them up a little. The mavs are really loaded and have 18 million in cap space so they don't need a rookie on the roster.



                                I want to say the guy the Nets drafted could have had low potential I will have to back and look. I remember thinking I had a good reason why I didn't take him in the top 5 just cant remember what it is lol. I think the guy projected to go 1st overall was the guy the suns took who is hurt.


                                Hey,

                                I think your draft class is ok rating wise. I use draft class quality at 75 and the overalls are slightly lower. Which setting do you use?
                                I‘m also interested im your changes about the salaries you made.

                                I love your thread. Impressive how far you went in your franchise. Keep up the good writing.


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