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  • itbeme23
    Pro
    • Sep 2007
    • 875

    #346
    Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

    Originally posted by KingV2k3
    I'm not positive how the other are approaching this, but for me, there's no NEED to replace the USER book with a generic / Legend...

    I'm using the Vermeil book and Gameflow, so the run / pass splits are really up to me...

    As the Browns, however, I could use Shurmer's book and just police the splits myself...

    The point of assigning generic or Legend books to the CPU is to use those books gameplans, which ensure more realistic run / pass splits...

    To each his own, but this is my take on it...
    I agree with this. As I said yesterday, I attempted to use the "Power Run" playbook for the 49ers, and not only did I not like the run/pass ratio, but I didn't really like the playcalling and formations in the playbook as well. This is very subjective, because it's a lot easier for us to monitor our playcalling than it is for the CPU, which is why the generics come in handy.

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    • booker21
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 4928

      #347
      Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

      Originally posted by KingV2k3
      I'm not positive how the other are approaching this, but for me, there's no NEED to replace the USER book with a generic / Legend...

      I'm using the Vermeil book and Gameflow, so the run / pass splits are really up to me...

      As the Browns, however, I could use Shurmer's book and just police the splits myself...

      The point of assigning generic or Legend books to the CPU is to use those books gameplans, which ensure more realistic run / pass splits...

      To each his own, but this is my take on it...
      This is for user who use gameplan instead of calling their own plays.
      English, is not my first language.

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      • luisffsilva
        Rookie
        • Sep 2011
        • 46

        #348
        Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

        And the defense scheme?
        Do you know if too much changes?!

        Just to confirm, I'll play against the Patriots in CCM offline. on controler select screen I put controler 2 to control them and go in advanced settings I change the offensive scheme for their (Patriots) "balanced".

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        • KingV2k3
          Senior Circuit
          • May 2003
          • 5881

          #349
          Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

          Anybody try to assign the Landry book to the CPU yet?

          It was considered quite the "exotic" offence back in the day, because it used a lot of I Formation / Gun / Motion / Shifts that were rare / unheard of at the time...

          Since it is from that era, I'd assume it's balanced, so it might be an interesting alternative for a team that run an interesting, but balanced scheme...

          Thanks!

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          • KingV2k3
            Senior Circuit
            • May 2003
            • 5881

            #350
            Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

            Originally posted by luisffsilva
            And the defense scheme?
            Do you know if too much changes?!

            Just to confirm, I'll play against the Patriots in CCM offline. on controler select screen I put controler 2 to control them and go in advanced settings I change the offensive scheme for their (Patriots) "balanced".
            Personally, I just let the CPU team use their default D book, and it's been fine for me...

            As far as the second part goes:

            1) The Patriots scheme is actually "Spread" so:

            2) In the load screen, you'd change their PLAYBOOK to a "Spread" generic (Run and Gun) or possibly a Legend Book (Vermeil / Billick) that has spread concepts...

            In rudy2july's signature (at the bottom his posts) he has a link to a spreadsheet that will tell you ALL the teams schemes and what playbooks have been discussed as alternatives to the team specific

            I hope this helps!

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            • luisffsilva
              Rookie
              • Sep 2011
              • 46

              #351
              Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

              Then I consider the set # 2?! Right!?


              Originally posted by KingV2k3
              Personally, I just let the CPU team use their default D book, and it's been fine for me...

              As far as the second part goes:

              1) The Patriots scheme is actually "Spread" so:

              2) In the load screen, you'd change their PLAYBOOK to a "Spread" generic (Run and Gun) or possibly a Legend Book (Vermeil / Billick) that has spread concepts...

              In rudy2july's signature (at the bottom his posts) he has a link to a spreadsheet that will tell you ALL the teams schemes and what playbooks have been discussed as alternatives to the team specific

              I hope this helps!

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              • KingV2k3
                Senior Circuit
                • May 2003
                • 5881

                #352
                Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

                Originally posted by luisffsilva
                Then I consider the set # 2?! Right!?
                Yes!

                That is the part of rudy2july's spreadsheet that I personally use, but there's good suggestions in both...

                Most suggestions are the same in both, but they are from two different posters in this thread...
                Last edited by KingV2k3; 10-31-2012, 04:06 PM.

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                • SJHalt621
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 354

                  #353
                  Is it me or does the CPU run a lot of screen plays?
                  "I don't believe in beating my kids, so I let them wear Justin Bieber shirts and Crocs to school so the others kids will do it for me."

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                  • KingV2k3
                    Senior Circuit
                    • May 2003
                    • 5881

                    #354
                    Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

                    Originally posted by SJHalt621
                    Is it me or does the CPU run a lot of screen plays?
                    Certain blitz and / or deep zone D formations trigger "audible" screens as well as the ones they call...

                    I can't name them off the top of my head, but when I choose one and "smell screen", you have to audible to man...quick...

                    Do you blitz a lot?
                    Last edited by KingV2k3; 10-31-2012, 04:40 PM.

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                    • SJHalt621
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 354

                      #355
                      Originally posted by KingV2k3
                      Certain blitz and / or deep zone D formations trigger "audible" screens as well as the ones they call...

                      I can't name them off the top of my head, but when I choose one and "smell screen", you have to audible to man...quick...

                      Do you blitz a lot?
                      Surprisingly no..I do run a lot of 2 man under and cover 1..I'm seattle so I'm able to get pressure without much blitz
                      "I don't believe in beating my kids, so I let them wear Justin Bieber shirts and Crocs to school so the others kids will do it for me."

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                      • KingV2k3
                        Senior Circuit
                        • May 2003
                        • 5881

                        #356
                        Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

                        Originally posted by SJHalt621
                        Surprisingly no..I do run a lot of 2 man under and cover 1..I'm seattle so I'm able to get pressure without much blitz
                        Hmm...well that blows my theory...well, alters / adds to it...

                        Is there a playbook (that you assign to the CPU) that you see more of this out of?

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                        • SJHalt621
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 354

                          #357
                          Lol..it was run balance..don't get me wrong though it worked well on me all but maybe once..
                          "I don't believe in beating my kids, so I let them wear Justin Bieber shirts and Crocs to school so the others kids will do it for me."

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                          • SJHalt621
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 354

                            #358
                            Originally posted by KingV2k3
                            Anybody try to assign the Landry book to the CPU yet?

                            It was considered quite the "exotic" offence back in the day, because it used a lot of I Formation / Gun / Motion / Shifts that were rare / unheard of at the time...

                            Since it is from that era, I'd assume it's balanced, so it might be an interesting alternative for a team that run an interesting, but balanced scheme...

                            Thanks!
                            When I'm done taking the kids out..ill test this playbook and let u know
                            "I don't believe in beating my kids, so I let them wear Justin Bieber shirts and Crocs to school so the others kids will do it for me."

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                            • KingV2k3
                              Senior Circuit
                              • May 2003
                              • 5881

                              #359
                              Re: run/pass ratio Team specific playbooks for computer- offline CCM

                              Originally posted by SJHalt621
                              When I'm done taking the kids out..ill test this playbook and let u know
                              I'm most interested in the run / pass splits and how "aggressive" this book is...

                              I'm thinking it's either a sub for balanced / pass balanced

                              It ain't West Coast / Spread / Vertical / Run Heavy / Zone Run

                              Thanks!

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                              • SJHalt621
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 354

                                #360
                                Originally posted by KingV2k3
                                I'm most interested in the run / pass splits and how "aggressive" this book is...

                                I'm thinking it's either a sub for balanced / pass balanced

                                It ain't West Coast / Spread / Vertical / Run Heavy / Zone Run

                                Thanks!
                                Ill let u know
                                "I don't believe in beating my kids, so I let them wear Justin Bieber shirts and Crocs to school so the others kids will do it for me."

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