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  • greenegt
    G-Men
    • Feb 2003
    • 4494

    #196
    Re: Official CBA Thread

    I'm glad the owners won't be able to use that 'war chest' as leverage. I don't like how the owners seem to want to stick it to the players' union. I'm fully on the players' side and hope they get everything they deserve.
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    • p_rushing
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2004
      • 14514

      #197
      Re: Official CBA Thread

      Originally posted by Kenage
      Does anyone know why if the union decertify's the league can not offer individual contracts for players to play for and still have a league without the union?
      That is the reason they want to decertify. That way the league has to deal with each player like a normal employee and cannot lock them out. The league can call them on it though and continue with business as usual without the union and CBA. I'm not sure if there are any legal issues that the owners would have to deal with or if they lose their antitrust exemptions.

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      • mestevo
        Gooney Goo Goo
        • Apr 2010
        • 19556

        #198
        Re: Official CBA Thread

        Originally posted by p_rushing
        That is the reason they want to decertify. That way the league has to deal with each player like a normal employee and cannot lock them out. The league can call them on it though and continue with business as usual without the union and CBA. I'm not sure if there are any legal issues that the owners would have to deal with or if they lose their antitrust exemptions.
        That's the wrinkle, football will continue, but the league would have to implement non-CBA rules for all 32 teams to handle free agency. The union would then file an antitrust suit for acting as 1 entity across 32 teams and the result of that lawsuit would likely become the new CBA.

        Problem with that is it's exactly what they did during the previous labor dispute, and you can't do this as if you are going through the motions, the union could potentially lose. Decertification means the union leaders walk away, and obviously they aren't going to do that, they'd decertify with the intention of reforming once it's resolved.

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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #199
          Re: Official CBA Thread

          Here's something I hadn't thought of before but i heard this on ESPN radio the other night and it makes perfect sense. If you've noticed a lot of veterans are getting cut just as the CBA deadline approaches. The thinking is, this is a lowball/screw you move by the owners so that after a prolonged workout these vets will have NO leverage and will sign for more than half of what they made this year.

          It's not a HUGE thing but might be something to look out for when the lockout is over.
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          • mestevo
            Gooney Goo Goo
            • Apr 2010
            • 19556

            #200
            Re: Official CBA Thread

            Originally posted by SPTO
            Here's something I hadn't thought of before but i heard this on ESPN radio the other night and it makes perfect sense. If you've noticed a lot of veterans are getting cut just as the CBA deadline approaches. The thinking is, this is a lowball/screw you move by the owners so that after a prolonged workout these vets will have NO leverage and will sign for more than half of what they made this year.

            It's not a HUGE thing but might be something to look out for when the lockout is over.
            Vets are cut this time every year, contracts are typically backloaded with large bonuses due sometime during the March-June time period.

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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #201
              Re: Official CBA Thread

              Originally posted by mestevo
              Vets are cut this time every year, contracts are typically backloaded with large bonuses due sometime during the March-June time period.
              Yes but the thinking is that these guys will have NO leverage. Let's say the lockout goes into September or early October so there's still a season. Those guys who were cut will have to take any kind of piddling offer the owners give them.
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              • NINJAK2
                *S *dd*ct
                • Jan 2003
                • 6185

                #202
                Re: Official CBA Thread

                Funny read by Rick R.

                http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6177574
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                • mestevo
                  Gooney Goo Goo
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19556

                  #203
                  Re: Official CBA Thread

                  24 hour extension to the negotiations.

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                  • BlueNGold
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 21817

                    #204
                    Re: Official CBA Thread

                    Originally posted by mestevo
                    24 hour extension to the negotiations.
                    I'm going to be the glass empty guy and say nothing comes of this. Yay lockouts!

                    *sigh*
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                    • Dog
                      aka jnes12/JNes__
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 11846

                      #205
                      Half empty? That glass is dry as a desert right now

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                      • BlueNGold
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 21817

                        #206
                        Re: Official CBA Thread

                        Originally posted by JNes12
                        Half empty? That glass is dry as a desert right now

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                        I never said half.
                        Originally posted by bradtxmale
                        I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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                        • TheMatrix31
                          RF
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 52927

                          #207
                          Re: Official CBA Thread



                          Great read.

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                          • 12
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 4458

                            #208
                            Re: Official CBA Thread

                            I'm getting really tired of both sides saying things like, "We're willing to talk," and telling the media that it's about the fans and whatnot... What a bunch of BS.

                            It's a $9B industry. Figure it out or take a huge hit in the future. Your choice.

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                            • SPTO
                              binging
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 68046

                              #209
                              Re: Official CBA Thread

                              At least they've extended it for a week. One could be positive and say they're close to an agreement but that'd be living in fantasy land.

                              It's pretty damn pathetic when billionaires and millionaires are arguing like this when the league makes more money than we could possibly dream of. You'd think they'd come to some sort of agreement. The players aren't being very extravagant with their demands in fact, some of their demands are common sense things.

                              Oh well....
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                              • Chrisksaint
                                $$$
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19127

                                #210
                                Re: Official CBA Thread

                                Yeah when you really think of it some of the players demands are stuff you can get at any other normal career job
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