Official CBA Thread

[Chaos81]

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Decertification it is.

[rondoman]

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Everyone who owns season tickets and has to pay for 2 meaningless preseason games.


Sure there will be more injuries with more games, but the % isn't going to change. The roster size and IR rules will change so that players who are hurt can be rested and kept on the roster. # of IR will go down because teams won't need to use it to hide players that they want to keep.

Now youll just pay for those meaningless games at the end of the year when certain teams have the division wrapped up.

Who wants bigger rosters? The talent is already spread thin in the NFL the last thing needed is guys playing that shouldnt be on an NFL team.

[Bellsprout]

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Mike Silver:

NFLPA just applied for decertification. Antitrust lawsuit in Minnesota likely to follow. Fasten your seat belts.

****.

[Hooe]

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De Smith demanding 10 years of audited financial data if another bargaining extension is granted or they'll decertify, and gave owners a 5pm EST deadline.

So NFL makes big concessions, meets the union halfway, union simply says no and then makes demands. A deal isn't going to get done with this union leadership.

Yes, the NFL owners are entirely blameless in the situation that we now have.

Both sides could have done better. As it stands, we're going to have fun in the courts it appears.

[MrNFL_FanIQ]

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Le sigh...

[aholbert32]

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De Smith demanding 10 years of audited financial data if another bargaining extension is granted or they'll decertify, and gave owners a 5pm EST deadline.

So NFL makes big concessions, meets the union halfway, union simply says no and then makes demands. A deal isn't going to get done with this union leadership.

Can someone answer this question for me? Why wont the owners show the books? If they get sued, EVERYTHING will be shown during Discovery. They could have shown the 10 yrs worth of books and maybe a deal would have been done.

[MrNFL_FanIQ]

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Can someone answer this question for me? Why wont the owners show the books? If they get sued, EVERYTHING will be shown during Discovery. They could have shown the 10 yrs worth of books and maybe a deal would have been done.

Part of it is probably pride, part stubbornness, and I also think part of it is because they are hiding things they don't want the players (or public) to know.

[Chaos81]

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So if the owners get sued and they go to court will the public end up seeing the teams financial information? Or is it something that would be private?

[Hooe]

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So if the owners get sued and they go to court will the public end up seeing the teams financial information? Or is it something that would be private?

Being realistic, I imagined it would get conveniently leaked if in fact it was supposed to stay private.

[da ThRONe]

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Part of it is probably pride, part stubbornness, and I also think part of it is because they are hiding things they don't want the players (or public) to know.

I think that was the poster point. If this goes to trial owners will be forced to open the books. So if they are hiding something then what? Lose-lose for owners and Im sure this is what De Smith and company are banking on.

[aholbert32]

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Part of it is probably pride, part stubbornness, and I also think part of it is because they are hiding things they don't want the players (or public) to know.

This is why I cant blame the players. If you say you are losing money and need a billion back.....prove it to me.

[aholbert32]

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So if the owners get sued and they go to court will the public end up seeing the teams financial information? Or is it something that would be private?

Guaranteed it would leak but the Judge could designate the documents confidential and only seen by the parties and their attorneys.

[Chaos81]

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Being realistic, I imagined it would get conveniently leaked if in fact it was supposed to stay private.

Guaranteed it would leak but the Judge could designate the documents confidential and only seen by the parties and their attorneys.

Thanks.

I thought they'd probably leak anyways, but was hoping it might be public regardless so we don't have to worry about it. Either way, it's going to be real interesting to see the numbers if we get to that point.

[Jeffx]

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I put this whole mess on the owners.

(from Drew Brees):
"The NFL brought this fight to us – they want $1 billion back, we just want financial information to back up that request. They refuse to give that information to us. They think we should just trust them. Would you?"

From everything I've read and heard, this whole mess seems to be driven by the owners at the bottom(guys like Mike Brown & Jerry Richardson). They're not making as much as the top owners(Jerry Jones, Snyder & the Maras), so they want givebacks from the players.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2011/03/11/2011-03-11_nfl_players_association_files_for_decertification_after_nfl_refuses_to_hand_over.html

[av7]

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Both sides need to be brought back down to Earth imo