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  • adriano
    MVP
    • Aug 2003
    • 2808

    #316
    Re: Official CBA Thread

    Originally posted by aholbert32
    I love the "they just play a game" and "they are making millions!" comments.

    They arent employees...this is a partnership. Fans dont come to games to watch the owners but without the owners there isnt a place for the players to play. I dont give a **** about any other concessions the owners made. I dont care if they took the 18 game season of the table (which was BS anyway) or offered to add more money to the pension. The bottom line is if you are asking for more money back...you should show why you need that money.

    With that said, I'm 99% we wont miss a game. All we will miss is FA and NFL FA is the least exciting of all the major sports. The draft is still happening and I think by August they will have a deal.

    I really don't care anymore.. I am for a strike..
    They both are stupid.. So much money, and
    so much greed..

    Redraft the whole league with hungry college players..

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    • ScoobySnax
      #faceuary2014
      • Mar 2009
      • 7624

      #317
      Re: Official CBA Thread

      Originally posted by adriano
      I really don't care anymore.. I am for a strike..
      They both are stupid.. So much money, and
      so much greed..

      Redraft the whole league with hungry college players..
      Because we're all dying to see that.

      Everyone who is a fan wants this thing resolved as quickly as possible. My Sundays wouldn't be the same if I couldn't start watching a game, take two or three naps, wake up and still be in the 3rd quarter of the same game! That's what I live for! LOL
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      • adriano
        MVP
        • Aug 2003
        • 2808

        #318
        Re: Official CBA Thread

        "I don't have time to be arguing. With the owners and us as millionaires, there shouldn't even be an argument," "It disgusts me, it's really an unfortunate situation. But it is what it is. I am on the fans' side. I want football, but to be focused on an argument over revenue is silly. We got people out here struggling, and there's no reason a deal shouldn't have gotten done." ~ Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)

        He said that while treating 100 fans to dinner. He gets it...

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        • Cubfan
          World Series Champions!!
          • Feb 2004
          • 3929

          #319
          Re: Official CBA Thread

          Originally posted by adriano
          "I don't have time to be arguing. With the owners and us as millionaires, there shouldn't even be an argument," "It disgusts me, it's really an unfortunate situation. But it is what it is. I am on the fans' side. I want football, but to be focused on an argument over revenue is silly. We got people out here struggling, and there's no reason a deal shouldn't have gotten done." ~ Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)

          He said that while treating 100 fans to dinner. He gets it...
          I don't always like the things Chad says and does but he is right and very nice for treating fans to a free meal. It shouldn't be this freaking hard to divide up 9 BILLION dollars.
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          • BlueNGold
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 21817

            #320
            Re: Official CBA Thread

            Originally posted by adriano
            I really don't care anymore.. I am for a strike..
            They both are stupid.. So much money, and
            so much greed..

            Redraft the whole league with hungry college players..
            Agreed....aside from the last line.
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            • grunt
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 9527

              #321
              Re: Official CBA Thread

              Originally posted by adriano
              Well there is one thing we can agree on.. I really
              don't care if they strike.. I am tired of it..
              Players aren't going on strike they are being locked out.

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              • Chrisksaint
                $$$
                • Apr 2010
                • 19127

                #322
                Re: Official CBA Thread

                Yeah it's pretty much the owners closing down all of their facilities to players, not the players just not showing up. I remember a Saints players the other day tweeted "Going to locker room to get cleats and workout clothes before I get locked out", pretty much sums it up.
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                • MrNFL_FanIQ
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 4988

                  #323
                  Re: Official CBA Thread

                  In my humble opinion, both sides can suck it.

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                  • mestevo
                    Gooney Goo Goo
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 19556

                    #324
                    Re: Official CBA Thread

                    Originally posted by Chrisksaint
                    Yeah it's pretty much the owners closing down all of their facilities to players, not the players just not showing up. I remember a Saints players the other day tweeted "Going to locker room to get cleats and workout clothes before I get locked out", pretty much sums it up.
                    The more money there is, the more everyone wants, that's why this is all a problem right now. Stadiums aren't getting any cheaper, and players aren't getting any younger.

                    Everyone loses, don't care how, just fix it.

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                    • Sportsforever
                      NL MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 20368

                      #325
                      Re: Official CBA Thread

                      So I wonder if Harbaugh is regretting his decision at this point. Do coaches still get paid in this situation?
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                      • N51_rob
                        Faceuary!
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 14805

                        #326
                        Originally posted by Sportsforever
                        So I wonder if Harbaugh is regretting his decision at this point. Do coaches still get paid in this situation?
                        Yes they do. Although assistants take a pay cut.

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                        • SPTO
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #327
                          Re: Official CBA Thread

                          Originally posted by N51_rob
                          Yes they do. Although assistants take a pay cut.

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                          Which is why there's a movement for a coaches union. It's been talked about a bit since midway through this past season.
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                          • TheMatrix31
                            RF
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52927

                            #328
                            Re: Official CBA Thread

                            Originally posted by SPTO
                            Which is why there's a movement for a coaches union. It's been talked about a bit since midway through this past season.
                            Argh. Last thing we need is another union involved.

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                            • Chrisksaint
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                              • Apr 2010
                              • 19127

                              #329
                              Re: Official CBA Thread

                              I remember reading that coaches get paid, but then after 3 months or so they take a massive paycut
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                              • av7
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 11408

                                #330
                                Re: Official CBA Thread

                                Broncos on opening their books

                                Bowlen is willing to open his books from the past five seasons if it means getting a deal done.

                                "If the league decides they want to open up the books of the Denver Broncos to present them to the union — I don't know if the league is into identifying individual clubs because they're private businesses," Ellis said. "But with a neutral (auditor) to verify the fact that certain teams haven't been operating as effectively as they did in the past, we're a willing and able participant.''

                                The union has asked to see the owners audited financial records from the past 10 years before it agrees to more concessions.

                                "We offered to show the union league-wide and club profitability data," Ellis said. "Not only that it can be verified by a mutually agreed upon third-party auditor. This is the type of information we don't share with each other. In other words, we aren't allowed to see how other teams are doing specifically in terms of revenues and expenses. Everything is very formalized in terms of information we get from other clubs. Now the union didn't even want to look at it."
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                                And Joe Ellis' take

                                Ellis, who attended negotiations along with Broncos owner Pat Bowlen on Friday. "The union didn't even want to look at it. They claimed the information was useless. But the fact is this: Since the agreement in 2006 was struck, players' costs have risen at double-digit percentages and owners' profits around the league essentially were at single-digit increases, if any. You get one line going one way and another line going the other way as you're trying to grow the game and make the game better. That's what the owners were putting on the table in a very genuine way."

                                In his first interview since labor negotiations began in earnest three weeks ago, Ellis did not hide his disappointment as he recounted the historic events of Friday, when the NFL Players Association decertified its union, a move that brought collective bargaining to the courts. The NFL countered by instituting a lockout against the players.

                                "Pat certainly believes they had no real good intention of negotiating and their goal all along was to go down the path of litigation," Ellis said. "It's extremely disappointing and it frustrates Pat. It makes him angry. He's fully aware that it makes our friends, our constituents, our season-ticket holders and everybody who supports us angry and disappointed."
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