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  • lostrelms
    Rookie
    • Nov 2005
    • 192

    #151
    Re: Official CBA Thread

    So the NFL wont open the books, who is to say that there is indeed $9b of revenue? What im starting to suspect (Only suspect, i have nothing to back this up) is that the Owners see the books, and see closer to $5b or $6b in revenue, and dont want to open the books and let the union see that.. If something like that is the case, and the Owners get that $2b off the top, then your looking at a final split of closer to $4.5b to the owners, with the Union only getting $1.5b. No proof, simply suspicion.
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    • King_B_Mack
      All Star
      • Jan 2009
      • 24451

      #152
      Re: Official CBA Thread

      Originally posted by jth1331
      This is all on both sides becoming greedy, but I feel the owners are trying to royally screw the players.
      I mean, an extra billion off the top to the owners, PLUS a pay cut for the players?
      Not to mention wanting to add things the players don't want, like an 18 game schedule.

      To me I think a "fair deal" would be the owners getting 1 billion, then the remaining 8 billion be split 53.75% for the players, 46.25% for the owners.
      Owners would be getting 4.7 billion, the players 4.3 billion.
      Exactly how are the players being greedy in this? They pretty much just want things to stay the way they are. It seems like if there are changes made they're fine with it, they just don't want to be screwed, which the owners seem to be trying to do on pretty much every point.

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      • Hooe
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 21555

        #153
        Re: Official CBA Thread

        Originally posted by N51_rob
        Ready, set, solution:

        -Owners get $1.5 billion off the top
        -Players take 54% of the remaining $7.5 billion.
        -Any new revenue streams follow similar distribution
        -Owners and Players chip in that 6% for post career health care
        -Rookie Wage Scale
        -Increase in Salary Cap Floor
        -Removal or Reworking of Franchise Tag
        -6 years required for UFA status
        -New clauses in all contracts that allow team to recoup Guranteed Dollars in the event of felony criminal CONVICTION (not charges). Includes Salary Cap relief.
        -16 Game season
        -New LA Stadium is the host of all Super Bowls going forward following 2014 Super Bowl in New York
        -Outside mediation for Disciplinary Appeals.

        Isn't this basically what both sides are after? How hard is that?
        Not a fan of 6-year unrestricted free agency. That said, this is heading in the right direction.

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        • dsallupinyaarea
          Rookie
          • Jan 2009
          • 2764

          #154
          Re: Official CBA Thread

          Originally posted by CHooe
          Not a fan of 6-year unrestricted free agency. That said, this is heading in the right direction.
          Right. You should be able to become an unrestricted free agent after your contract is up. I can't think of a legit reason why you shouldn't be.
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          • mestevo
            Gooney Goo Goo
            • Apr 2010
            • 19556

            #155
            Re: Official CBA Thread

            Owners and NFLPA have agreed to 3rd party mediation starting Friday to help get things rolling along again.

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            • Cardot
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              • Feb 2003
              • 6164

              #156
              Re: Official CBA Thread

              This is a matchup of two things that I really enjoy watching. NFL games and people screwing themselves over with their own greed. I'll enjoy this however it goes.

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              • kjcheezhead
                MVP
                • May 2009
                • 3118

                #157
                Re: Official CBA Thread

                Originally posted by snepp
                That's my camp as well. I wouldn't mind seeing the league brought down a notch or two.
                Count me in the group too. The NFL is just too big for its own good at this point. All these exclusive deals because it's so lucrative to do business with the league. Maybe losing a season or throwing scrubs on the field and watching fans turn their backs on the league for a bit would end up benefiting the fans in the long run.

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                • kwpit79
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 608

                  #158
                  Re: Official CBA Thread

                  Originally posted by kjcheezhead
                  Count me in the group too. The NFL is just too big for its own good at this point. All these exclusive deals because it's so lucrative to do business with the league. Maybe losing a season or throwing scrubs on the field and watching fans turn their backs on the league for a bit would end up benefiting the fans in the long run.
                  My feelings exactly. Football is the only sport I watch (moreso NFL than college), but a big part of me wants this thing to go down in flames. It's time for both parties to realize that fans are the only ones really getting screwed. And what goes unnoticed is that we're literally funding the league with our tax dollars! How do we not get a say when all of the newer stadiums are half-funded by us? This crap makes my blood boil so I'll be stepping a way for now.

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                  • kjcheezhead
                    MVP
                    • May 2009
                    • 3118

                    #159
                    Re: Official CBA Thread

                    Originally posted by kwpit79
                    My feelings exactly. Football is the only sport I watch (moreso NFL than college), but a big part of me wants this thing to go down in flames. It's time for both parties to realize that fans are the only ones really getting screwed. And what goes unnoticed is that we're literally funding the league with our tax dollars! How do we not get a say when all of the newer stadiums are half-funded by us? This crap makes my blood boil so I'll be stepping a way for now.

                    Here's a good article that talks about the greed of the NFL and how it treats its fans. It sums it pretty well why I feel the way I do.

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                    • lonewolf371
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 3420

                      #160
                      Re: Official CBA Thread

                      Seems like this mediation stuff might be more effective than I thought.

                      Originally posted by kjcheezhead
                      Here's a good article that talks about the greed of the NFL and how it treats its fans. It sums it pretty well why I feel the way I do.

                      http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...nnbin&hpt=Sbin
                      I still can't believe people were willing to pay it.
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                      • SPTO
                        binging
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046

                        #161
                        Re: Official CBA Thread

                        Yep the mediation seems to be working really well. Since they've gone to mediation we haven't heard one peep about the negotiations. This is a great development and may stave off any kind of work stoppage.
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                        • N51_rob
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 14805

                          #162
                          Re: Official CBA Thread

                          Hope that you are right SPTO. I am taking the more negative stance though. When mediation fails (if it does. I hope not) both sides will come out throwing daggers. I figure it's been so quiet as a condition of mediation. I really hope that a deal can be reached, but I have this sinking feeling this is the calm before the storm. I really hope that I am wrong though.
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                          • Bellsprout
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                            • Oct 2009
                            • 25652

                            #163
                            Re: Official CBA Thread

                            Originally posted by N51_rob
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                            I like this idea.
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                            • Hooe
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 21555

                              #164
                              Re: Official CBA Thread

                              Originally posted by SPTO
                              Yep the mediation seems to be working really well. Since they've gone to mediation we haven't heard one peep about the negotiations. This is a great development and may stave off any kind of work stoppage.
                              Didn't both sides also agree separately to not talk to the media regarding the labor strife? Not that the meetings aren't going better, but I'm not so certain that we can be sure either way how they are going.

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                              • SPTO
                                binging
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 68046

                                #165
                                Re: Official CBA Thread

                                Originally posted by CHooe
                                Didn't both sides also agree separately to not talk to the media regarding the labor strife? Not that the meetings aren't going better, but I'm not so certain that we can be sure either way how they are going.
                                That may be the case but something ALWAYS leaks out to the media even if there's a self imposed ban on saying anything. I don't think anything of note has been leaked since they've gone into mediation.
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