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  • Mabster
    Crunchy
    • Mar 2009
    • 7659

    #106
    Re: Xbox live hackings

    insidegamingdaily posted about it a couple weeks ago. I've very surprised it hasn't caught more attention then it has.
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    • Skittles6547
      Rookie
      • Sep 2010
      • 151

      #107
      Re: Xbox live hackings

      Originally posted by CHooe
      This is me wondering why OS (or perhaps Owen Good of Kotaku) doesn't run something about it. It's clearly affecting a ton of sports gamers, and attention needs to be shined on the issue as to prevent others from getting hacked.
      I think one of us should propose this to an admin. We have a huge community here and if a bunch of us are having the same problem odds are that many others are too and MS & EA are not listening to small voices so maybe they will a BIG voice!

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      • bkfount
        All Star
        • Oct 2004
        • 8467

        #108
        Re: Xbox live hackings

        Originally posted by 42
        Is MS/EA ever going to come out and acknowledge this problem?
        Maybe banks will get tired of having to deal with this and tell people to stop paying for Live, or the laughable gaming press will finally pick this up, but MS won't do anything until they're forced to.

        I'd actually like to see MS step up and take ownership of their network by telling publishers to **** off with these authentication servers and side accounts. Some of MS's paying customers are being hacked and robbed without Live actually being compromised, and it'll only make MS look bad.

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        • Burns11
          Greatness Has Arrived
          • Mar 2007
          • 7406

          #109
          Re: Xbox live hackings

          Originally posted by bkfount
          without Live actually being compromised
          If Live is truly sending full logon details to anybody, EA included, Live is compromised.

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          • Mabster
            Crunchy
            • Mar 2009
            • 7659

            #110
            Re: Xbox live hackings

            I'm still trying to figure out how a compromise to the EA servers gives access to MS password info to access your account.

            Originally posted by Burns11
            If Live is truly sending full logon details to anybody, EA included, Live is compromised.
            I guess that's the only way. There is no reason MS should be sending full login details to anybody.
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            • EnigmaNemesis
              Animal Liberation
              • Apr 2006
              • 12216

              #111
              If it is an EA only issue, then why are PSN accounts not compromised?

              Sounds like a combination of MSFT/EA, and I am amazed this is not covered more. And no statements are made.

              If this was Sony, imagine the ****storm.
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              • mestevo
                Gooney Goo Goo
                • Apr 2010
                • 19556

                #112
                Re: Xbox live hackings

                Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                If it is an EA only issue, then why are PSN accounts not compromised?

                Sounds like a combination of MSFT/EA, and I am amazed this is not covered more. And no statements are made.

                If this was Sony, imagine the ****storm.
                IMO the lack of an announcement by EA or MS reeks of phishing/social engineering than anything else. The liability is too big to really play around with this stuff.

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                • Burns11
                  Greatness Has Arrived
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 7406

                  #113
                  Re: Xbox live hackings

                  It could very well be that they have found a way to get EA to leak email addresses, and then they use those to brute force passwords either using a browser or possibly hacked 360s.

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                  • lilloreo
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 289

                    #114
                    Re: Xbox live hackings

                    Surprise, surprise...my account still hasn't been cleared yet. After all it was only hacked on 8/22.

                    I have an off topic question but kind of related...i just found out that Skyrim is going to have a release day patch. If I have my son log on after I install Skyrim will the patch apply to my gamertag as well? Does the patch apply to the console or gamertag?

                    Hope this doesn't sound like a stupid question.

                    I'm so livid right now about this whole situation that I'm about to put on my "Guy Fawkes" mask and extract some frontier justice on Microsoft!!!!
                    Don't blame me for what those nitwits said...They don't speak for me!!!

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                    • ExtremeGamer
                      Extra Life 11/3/18
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 35299

                      #115
                      Originally posted by lilloreo
                      Surprise, surprise...my account still hasn't been cleared yet. After all it was only hacked on 8/22.

                      I have an off topic question but kind of related...i just found out that Skyrim is going to have a release day patch. If I have my son log on after I install Skyrim will the patch apply to my gamertag as well? Does the patch apply to the console or gamertag?

                      Hope this doesn't sound like a stupid question.

                      I'm so livid right now about this whole situation that I'm about to put on my "Guy Fawkes" mask and extract some frontier justice on Microsoft!!!!
                      Patches apply to the console not the tag. You're good.


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                      • lilloreo
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 289

                        #116
                        Re: Xbox live hackings

                        Are day one patches available to silver members or just gold members?
                        Thanks for the quick response Extreme!!!
                        Don't blame me for what those nitwits said...They don't speak for me!!!

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                        • EnigmaNemesis
                          Animal Liberation
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 12216

                          #117
                          Originally posted by lilloreo
                          Are day one patches available to silver members or just gold members?
                          Thanks for the quick response Extreme!!!
                          Patches are available to everyone the day they hit.
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                          • mestevo
                            Gooney Goo Goo
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 19556

                            #118
                            Likely not even tied to your console ID at all.

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #119
                              Re: Xbox live hackings

                              Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                              Patches are available to everyone the day they hit.
                              And you just have to be connected to XBL, no matter gold or silver.

                              They will also always be available. All software has a "check" in it to contact the XBL server as soon as it is launched.
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                              • Burns11
                                Greatness Has Arrived
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 7406

                                #120
                                Re: Xbox live hackings

                                FIFA Ultimate Team XBL account hijacks were "not a hack"

                                By Fred Dutton Published 10 November, 2011

                                Microsoft insists user security is "ingrained in its DNA".




                                A recent spate of Xbox Live account hijackings involving unauthorised FIFA Ultimate Team pack purchases are not due to a system exploit or hack, Microsoft has clarified.
                                Speaking in an interview with Eurogamer, Microsoft's online safety director Doug Park insisted that the problem didn't represent "a new attack vector".
                                "It's not a hack, it's really just a different way to monetise stolen accounts," he explained.
                                "Any service has compromises. Facebook has compromises, WOW has compromises. What they're really doing is trying to make money off those compromises. So FIFA is a very popular title - it's just a new way for the bad guys to make money. It wasn't, based on our investigation... we didn't see anything new. It was just a different avenue."
                                When pushed for more information on exactly what the thieves are up to, Park suggested that a run-of-the-mill data phishing scam was the cause, though wouldn't go into specifics.
                                "I'm not getting into super detail on that, but there are the basics of account compromise. There's phishing, there's social engineering, there's malware. Based off of the industry today, most of it comes off malware and phishing. If they get the accounts, they sell it," he said.
                                "That's really all they were doing. Whether it's FIFA, or an account with a PlayStation subscription, or an account with a Live subscription, it's all basically the same thing."
                                So, what is Microsoft planning to do to ensure it doesn't happen again? Xbox communications director Craig Cincotta chimed in, insisting that protecting its users from security threats is "ingrained in the DNA" of Microsoft's business.
                                "You come in every day and try to stay ahead of these things. There are teams of people who are thinking about this day in, day out," he explained.
                                "You try to get to the place where you're most prepared and most well informed. That's a constant state. It's not like it's, 'Oh, we've solved that security thing'. No. You just constantly do it.
                                "Part of it is the responsibility to our user base. If we're going to provide people with the types of functionality and experiences they want, it's our responsibility to stay ahead of the types of exploits that we need to protect people from."
                                The FIFA issue first raised its head last month, when a significant number of users reported that their accounts had been taken over by cyber thieves and were being used to purchase FIFA Ultimate Team content packs, presumably for re-sale.
                                At the time, Microsoft announced that it was "working with our impacted members directly to resolve any unauthorised changes to their accounts."

                                Well there you go, boil down all that ridiculous PR speak and Microsoft's response to all this is "it's your fault because you fell for a phishing scam".

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