Xbox One

[ubernoob]

Re: Xbox One

So I'm curious...what does everyone think is a realistic megaton MS could drop at e3 that would get everyone talking?

Mine would be Fallout 4 announced during their PC with an agreement similar to COD...timed DLC, "lead platform", etc.

I have a feeling that MS won't really have a "megaton" like that.

The amount of money they'd have to spend to get timed DLC and "lead platform" designation on multi-party games will be astronomical around now compared to the 360/PS3 era.

Was easier on the 360 when they were out a year prior to PS3 and already had the lion's share of the market, not to mention a cheaper and easier machine to develop for - that were relatively the same power when all was said and done.

April numbers just came out for hardware sales. XBox One sold ~115,000 in April.

If anything, MS is gonna have to follow Sony's lead from last gen. Their focus should be entirely on first/second-party offerings and beefing up their exclusives. They already have the FPS genre on lock for first/second-party.

They have nothing for those gamers that enjoy the Heavy Rain/Last of Us/Uncharted/etc. type genres, which would be a huge boon to them in both gaining market share/customer retention.

It's kind of a catch-22, though, especially for second party offerings. They have to convince those devs that it's worth it to develop solely for their machine, but they kinda need those games/genres to at least offer more worth playing.

Bluntly put: The XBox One had a lower selling April than the XBox 360 has ever had, save for this year. Spoiler with numbers and a random fact.

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360:
April 2006 - 295K
April 2007 - 174K
April 2008 - 188K
April 2009 - 175K
April 2010 - 185K
April 2011 - 297K
April 2012 - 236K
April 2013 - 130K
April 2014 - 71K

Xbox One:
April 2014 - 115K

Also, the XBox 360 Version of Titanfall outsold the XBox One hardware in April. Not totally unsurprising considering the install base, just an interesting fact.

[mgoblue]

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I have a feeling that MS won't really have a "megaton" like that.

The amount of money they'd have to spend to get timed DLC and "lead platform" designation on multi-party games will be astronomical around now compared to the 360/PS3 era.

Was easier on the 360 when they were out a year prior to PS3 and already had the lion's share of the market, not to mention a cheaper and easier machine to develop for - that were relatively the same power when all was said and done.

April numbers just came out for hardware sales. XBox One sold ~115,000 in April.

If anything, MS is gonna have to follow Sony's lead from last gen. Their focus should be entirely on first/second-party offerings and beefing up their exclusives. They already have the FPS genre on lock for first/second-party.

They have nothing for those gamers that enjoy the Heavy Rain/Last of Us/Uncharted/etc. type genres, which would be a huge boon to them in both gaining market share/customer retention.

It's kind of a catch-22, though, especially for second party offerings. They have to convince those devs that it's worth it to develop solely for their machine, but they kinda need those games/genres to at least offer more worth playing.

Bluntly put: The XBox One had a lower selling April than the XBox 360 has ever had, save for this year. Spoiler with numbers and a random fact.

Spoiler

360:
April 2006 - 295K
April 2007 - 174K
April 2008 - 188K
April 2009 - 175K
April 2010 - 185K
April 2011 - 297K
April 2012 - 236K
April 2013 - 130K
April 2014 - 71K

Xbox One:
April 2014 - 115K

Also, the XBox 360 Version of Titanfall outsold the XBox One hardware in April. Not totally unsurprising considering the install base, just an interesting fact.

It also depends on if Sony really brings it or not....Naughty Dog alone can't push them, so the games MS kicks out will be weighed against what Sony does...

[ubernoob]

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It also depends on if Sony really brings it or not....Naughty Dog alone can't push them, so the games MS kicks out will be weighed against what Sony does...

Yes and no. Sony is in the driver seat and can coast, because third-party games will most always be the better version on the PS4.

Microsoft's only chance at turning this around (and I hope the Kinect-less SKU sells like hotcakes for them) is through first-party exclusives.

inFAMOUS: SS (a game that's very light on content) was the best selling next-gen game for last month. It outsold every other next-gen game. Titanfall was only on the list because the 360 and PC versions kept it propped up there. InFAMOUS didn't chart, despite being the best selling next-gen game.

Sony could announce crap for first party games (which they won't do) and still probably well outpace the XBox One on the basis of third-party strength alone.

So far, though, E3 is shaping up to be very very good for both companies - which should make us all happy.

XBox Rumors

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• Ryse 2 - In development, will show a real-time in-game trailer. Medieval setting. Supposedly looks absolutely gorgeous.
• Forza Horizon 2 - October 2014. Real time weather and full day/night cycle. ~80 hour single player.
• Halo 2: Anniversary. 'nuff said.
• Halo 5 Release Date.
• Epic's new game, 99.9% likely it's an XBOne exclusive.
• New Kinect only game, "EchoBlack."
• BattleToads (download only like Kiiller Instinct, 60fps) and Perfect Dark (re-tooled to be third-person adventure (like Uncharted) retooled by Rare. Exclusives.
• Twisted Pixel's new digital game, most likely a 2.5D platformer.
• Gears of War: Lazarus trailer from Black Tusk.
• Fable Legends brief gameplay video.
• More Sunset Overdrive news. Q3 release.
• Platinum Games XBox One Exclusive. Color me excited.
• Leap Experience Pioneers announcing their game, which looks inspired by Mass Effect.
• Platform Next Games unveiling a tech demo. New studio, this is understandable.
• Other things, of course. Hopefully more surprises.

Playstation Rumors

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• Uncharted 4 - 3 minute PS4 trailer showing in-engine footage and gameplay segments.
• New Media Molecule VR game. Bleh from me. Maybe exciting for some.
• Gran Turismo 6 PS4 version.
• God of War 4 trailer. Mainly CG, sadly.
• Syphon Filter reboot. Possibly Syphon Filter: Kill Strain.
• WipEout news.
• Quantic Dream stuff. Unsure if game trailer or tech demo.
• The Order: 1886 gets a big stage demo.
• Guerrilla Games RPG rumored to get shown off.
• Sony Japan stuff. Project Beast (Demon Souls successor), The Last Guardian and an unknown title.

If both of those rumor lists are anything NEAR true (which, let's face it, it's probably a 50/50 shot either way)... MS will come out of E3 looking strong. As will Sony. It's the follow-up (and subsequent years) they need to kill. That's not even counting all the third-party multi-platform stuff.

[cherone21]

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That's the only voice command I have trouble with.

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[Flawless]

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Those rumors read like a mix of logical, wishlist, and fan fiction. This time of year, it's always difficult to put much stock into that stuff.

Having said that, a Platinum Games exclusive has been rumored for awhile and if it did end up being true, that would probably push me over the edge for an Xbox One sooner rather than later. I love me some Platinum; Bayonetta 2 and The Wonderful 101 are both a big reason in me getting a Wii U.

Also, if Microsoft ever did really want to do a Battletoads game, Platinum Games would be perfect. They have some of the most talented people to have worked on Hack 'n' Slash, Beat' em ups, character action games, whatever you want to call them. Their design philosophy is a throwback to when games were first and foremost mechanics and gameplay driven, they then marry that with their own unique flavor of insane over the top action and humor. Just thinking about a Hideki Kamiya directed Battletoads makes me giddy.

[ubernoob]

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Most of that stuff rumored comes from sources that have proven to be legitimate with leaks in the past.

Even some of the more popular Youtubers (boogie and the like) have picked up on them and have made videos about it.

Honestly, I'd be pleased as punched if both of those E3 lineups were mostly legit.

[Cyros]

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Most of that stuff rumored comes from sources that have proven to be legitimate with leaks in the past.

Even some of the more popular Youtubers (boogie and the like) have picked up on them and have made videos about it.

Honestly, I'd be pleased as punched if both of those E3 lineups were mostly legit.

I'm intrigued by the Syphon Filter rumor for some reason. I've only played the first PSP game in that series, and messed around with the taser in the PSone games.

[Swamp Swagger]

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I used to love Battletoads lol

[TracerBullet]

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Don't play with my emotions man!

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Also, if those lists were true, I'd probably end up with an Xbox One by the end of the year. Hell, Halo 2 Anniversary already makes that likely if the gameplay is kept intact.

[Cyros]

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I used to love Battletoads lol

Don't play with my emotions man!

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Also, if those lists were true, I'd probably end up with an Xbox One by the end of the year. Hell, Halo 2 Anniversary already makes that likely if the gameplay is kept intact.

[ubernoob]

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Don't play with my emotions man!

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Also, if those lists were true, I'd probably end up with an Xbox One by the end of the year. Hell, Halo 2 Anniversary already makes that likely if the gameplay is kept intact.

I'm with you.

I already said the day MS drops the Kinect (not to mention the price, which I didn't really care about) is the day I'd think about welcoming them back into my gaming life.

Even if half those rumors turn out to be true, I'll probably have one by years end.

Not with you on the Halo boat, though. That series died to me after the first game.

[Swamp Swagger]

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Sweet background

Wish that guy from the kinect game wasn't it the way lol

[mestevo]

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My 'fondest' memory of Battletoads.

Thank you Nintendo Power for the map.

[iLLosophy]

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Yeah because the Kinect is the only thing that gives the Government information into our lives.....*rolls eyes at stupid excuse*

I literally LOLed at the irony of your use of the word stupid....

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[ricky24]

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They have nothing for those gamers that enjoy the Heavy Rain/Last of Us/Uncharted/etc. type genres, which would be a huge boon to them in both gaining market share/customer retention.
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Of course they do. It's called gears of war.