Conan's Reign Ends...and then begins AGAIN!

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I pray Howard is on next week.

[TheMatrix31]

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Un-be-lievable.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Good little article about Conan/Fox and Leno/NBC.

[Miles_Yuhas]

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WOW this is stupid:

NBC’s The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien has topped all broadcast and cable competition in the key late-night demographic of adults 18-49 for the week of January 4-8. At 12:35 a.m. ET. Last week also saw Conan deliver bigger audiences than CBS's Late Show with David Letterman and the ABC lineup of Nightline and Jimmy Kimmel Live in adults, men and women 18-34, men 18-49 and men 25-54. Conan has finished #1 or tied for #1 among broadcast networks in adult 18-49 rating for nine of the last 11 weeks. The median age of Conan’s audience last week was 45.6, nine years younger than Nightline's" 55.0 and 11 years younger than Letterman’s 57.3.

Makes a lot of sense NBC. What a bunch of BS

[Fresh Tendrils]

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NBC apparently loves getting on their knees for Leno. I don't understand. Its a shame he had to be such a bitch.

[tsalbysp]

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NBC apparently loves getting on their knees for Leno. I don't understand. Its a shame he had to be such a bitch.

How is Leno being a bitch?

This fiasco lies on the shoulders of NBC and their executives. As Craig Ferguson said, "it's a bunch of middle aged white guys arguing over who gets x million dollars."

Blame NBC, not Leno.

[Miles_Yuhas]

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How is Leno being a bitch?

This fiasco lies on the shoulders of NBC and their executives. As Craig Ferguson said, "it's a bunch of middle aged white guys arguing over who gets x million dollars."

Blame NBC, not Leno.

I blame NBC for this, but if Leno would have retired like he promised NBC like six years ago, we wouldn't be having this problem.

[tsalbysp]

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I blame NBC for this, but if Leno would have retired like he promised NBC like six years ago, we wouldn't be having this problem.

He didn't promise to retire.

From what I gather, he promised to let Conan have The Tonight Show. He promised to give up his seat in that specific show, not to go into retirement.

This is NBC not liking the results after 7 months and booting Conan out the door. It's about money, plain and simple.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Leno said he would retire. Everybody expected him to retire, but then when the time came for the transition he changed his mind and threatened to go to another network if NBC didn't give him a show. Obviously NBC wasn't going to let him walk so they gave him the show. Present day, the affiliates are complaining because Leno's numbers suck which is causing the local news to pull in less viewers which means less advertising money in their pockets. NBC's solution to this mess was messed up but the root of the problem is Leno.

[Miles_Yuhas]

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He didn't promise to retire.

From what I gather, he promised to let Conan have The Tonight Show. He promised to give up his seat in that specific show, not to go into retirement.

This is NBC not liking the results after 7 months and booting Conan out the door. It's about money, plain and simple.

This all got started because of NBC affiliates (late local news at 11:00) being pissed at NBC because Leno's 10pm show did not give them the lead in that they got from scripted programming at that time. Apparently some of them threated to leave the network.

[tsalbysp]

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Leno said he would retire. Everybody expected him to retire, but then when the time came for the transition he changed his mind and threatened to go to another network if NBC didn't give him a show. Obviously NBC wasn't going to let him walk so they gave him the show. Present day, the affiliates are complaining because Leno's numbers suck which is causing the local news to pull in less viewers which means less advertising money in their pockets. NBC's solution to this mess was messed up but the root of the problem is Leno.

Again, he never said he was going to retire.

He said he was going to step down from The Tonight Show, and allow Conan to have it. He never once said he was done with television, merely that he was done with that specific show.

There's a difference between retirement and leaving a show.

Edit: And ****, this deal was made half a decade ago. People change during that amount of time, their decisions change.

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He didn't promise to retire.

From what I gather, he promised to let Conan have The Tonight Show. He promised to give up his seat in that specific show, not to go into retirement.

This is NBC not liking the results after 7 months and booting Conan out the door. It's about money, plain and simple.

Thats what I said way back in this thread because I work for GE.

They make all of their decisions based off of that alone no matter what seems like common sense to you.

That wont matter though because people need someone to finger point and bash. You wont see Jeff Immelt's name come up once.

[Jackdog]

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If anyone is to blame it's Jeff Zucker. All of this was his idea.
Now this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/14/jeff-zucker-threatens-con_n_423278.html

[eDotd]

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Conan got royally screwed.

[eXperiment63]

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Again, he never said he was going to retire.

He said he was going to step down from The Tonight Show, and allow Conan to have it. He never once said he was done with television, merely that he was done with that specific show.

There's a difference between retirement and leaving a show.

Edit: And ****, this deal was made half a decade ago. People change during that amount of time, their decisions change.

And that only happened because NBC forced his hand lol. That only happened because Conan had an offer on the table from Fox and NBC needed leverage to keep him from leaving. So they figured, "Eh, in five years Jay will likely be ready to retire, so we'll offer Conan that spot."

Except jay wasn't ready, not at all.

Conan got royally screwed.

He's not the only one... Jay Leno is getting his rep bashed in ten ways from Tuesday for something he has NO control over.