LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

If you see it as fantastic then enjoy it. Sometimes videophiles pick up on things that the average user does not.

The FW that panny has is not about the gama, it is about the FB

The Gama they have not even stated if they would fix

I love THX mode but the Gama on it sucks and the fact that you cannot change it like you could in Custom settings blows. But hopefully Panny will allow a fix via FW in the future

Is the settings used for THX mode hidden? If not, couldn't you just duplicate them in a custom setting and change the gamma there?

[Gagnon39]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Is the settings used for THX mode hidden? If not, couldn't you just duplicate them in a custom setting and change the gamma there?

The setting for THX is not hidden. It gives you the contrast, brightness, tint, etc. But I still have no idea what it means to change the gamma. So I'm not sure how to answer this question. I guess I need to just quit reading this thread because its causing me to look for little things that I just simply don't see.

[Giants4Natic]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

The setting for THX is not hidden. It gives you the contrast, brightness, tint, etc. But I still have no idea what it means to change the gamma. So I'm not sure how to answer this question. I guess I need to just quit reading this thread because its causing me to look for little things that I just simply don't see.

Go to custom settings and there is a Gama option that the higher you set it the darker the dark. The usual calibrated setting is between 2.2 and 2.5

In thx it is measured at 1.9 in testing. Gama is not available for tweaking in thx mode. At 1.9 the pic does not have the pop and dark do not look inky, it looks more mellow

In custom u can change all but thx is pre calibrated by Panasonic therefore skin tones and colors look great and nothing you can do in custom can match what thx offers even with tweaking. Only way is to calibrated by a pro. If panny fixes the 1.9 Gama to 2.2 then you will see how incredible it would look.

[Gagnon39]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Go to custom settings and there is a Gama option that the higher you set it the darker the dark. The usual calibrated setting is between 2.2 and 2.5

In thx it is measured at 1.9 in testing. Gama is not available for tweaking in thx mode. At 1.9 the pic does not have the pop and dark do not look inky, it looks more mellow

In custom u can change all but thx is pre calibrated by Panasonic therefore skin tones and colors look great and nothing you can do in custom can match what thx offers even with tweaking. Only way is to calibrated by a pro. If panny fixes the 1.9 Gama to 2.2 then you will see how incredible it would look.

Gotcha. I've thought about having mine calibrated. But didn't know if it would really be worth the money. I think its around $200 for Best Buy to do it.

Also, have you called about the firmware update? Did you get it? I'd still like to get the update but would like to know exactly what to ask them and who to call.

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Go to custom settings and there is a Gama option that the higher you set it the darker the dark. The usual calibrated setting is between 2.2 and 2.5

In thx it is measured at 1.9 in testing. Gama is not available for tweaking in thx mode. At 1.9 the pic does not have the pop and dark do not look inky, it looks more mellow

In custom u can change all but thx is pre calibrated by Panasonic therefore skin tones and colors look great and nothing you can do in custom can match what thx offers even with tweaking. Only way is to calibrated by a pro. If panny fixes the 1.9 Gama to 2.2 then you will see how incredible it would look.

What I am asking is can you not take the THX settings and enter them into a custom setting with the only change being you up the gama? Thats why I was asking if it was hidden....kinda like KFC's secret recipe.

[Giants4Natic]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Gotcha. I've thought about having mine calibrated. But didn't know if it would really be worth the money. I think its around $200 for Best Buy to do it.

Also, have you called about the firmware update? Did you get it? I'd still like to get the update but would like to know exactly what to ask them and who to call.

I will call them but that is what a member posted on a forum. I will let you know what they say.

Never ever ever ever ever let Best Buy calibrated your set. They do not have clue, might as well hand them your money

If you ever want a great one then I will put you up with a guy who does great work and travels.

Plasmas should be calibrated if you choose after about 150hrs of use

[Giants4Natic]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

What I am asking is can you not take the THX settings and enter them into a custom setting with the only change being you up the gama? Thats why I was asking if it was hidden....kinda like KFC's secret recipe.

It would not yield the same results due to custom not having CSM (color service menu)

[Gagnon39]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I will call them but that is what a member posted on a forum. I will let you know what they say.

Never ever ever ever ever let Best Buy calibrated your set. They do not have clue, might as well hand them your money

If you ever want a great one then I will put you up with a guy who does great work and travels.

Plasmas should be calibrated if you choose after about 150hrs of use

Well, I imagine that would be rather expensive. Can you give me a ballpark estimate on how much that might cost?

[Giants4Natic]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Well, I imagine that would be rather expensive. Can you give me a ballpark estimate on how much that might cost?

I say between $350 to $400

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Well, I imagine that would be rather expensive. Can you give me a ballpark estimate on how much that might cost?

Looking at anywhere between $350-500 depending. I would try a calibration disc before having a somebody come in (unless you have $400 lying around). Obviously, you won't be able to get it to where a calibrator can (who is able to go into the tv's service menu) Note: If you are happy with the tv's PQ then all this is trivial.

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-...9609712&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Spears-Munsil-...9609712&sr=8-1

[SeaNNyT]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I just bought a LG LK330 32" 720p LCD TV, but its not really fun playing games on it. The response time, input lag, and blur from slow refresh rate make it almost unbearable for shooters, and sport games.

The picture is amazing until faster motion starts. I had a strict budget so I couldn't get a more expensive plasma or faster refresh rate LCD.

[Giants4Natic]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I just bought a LG LK330 32" 720p LCD TV, but its not really fun playing games on it. The response time, input lag, and blur from slow refresh rate make it almost unbearable for shooters, and sport games.

The picture is amazing until faster motion starts. I had a strict budget so I couldn't get a more expensive plasma or faster refresh rate LCD.

Did you engage game mode on that tv?

It's a must in most lcd tvs

What is your budget and can u return it still

[SeaNNyT]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Game mode on this TV seems to be nothing more than a change in contrast and brightness settings, I doubt it's changing the processing of the TV in any way.

Yes I can still return it, so another option of TV suggestions is welcomed. My budget is $400 or under. I paid $280 plus 2 year warranty for the current TV. It was that cheap because of a July 4th sale at hhgregg.

I would like to get a TV that has input lag of 1 frame or less (17ms), but I doubt anything like that can be found for under 400 and is not a PC monitor. Also would like to stay in the 32 inch size.

[Giants4Natic]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Game mode on this TV seems to be nothing more than a change in contrast and brightness settings, I doubt it's changing the processing of the TV in any way.

Yes I can still return it, so another option of TV suggestions is welcomed. My budget is $400 or under. I paid $280 plus 2 year warranty for the current TV. It was that cheap because of a July 4th sale at hhgregg.

I would like to get a TV that has input lag of 1 frame or less (17ms), but I doubt anything like that can be found for under 400 and is not a PC monitor. Also would like to stay in the 32 inch size.

Return that and get this. IPS panel which blows that LG out.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIER...dp_ob_title_ce

[CaptainZombie]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

What I am asking is can you not take the THX settings and enter them into a custom setting with the only change being you up the gama? Thats why I was asking if it was hidden....kinda like KFC's secret recipe.

It would not yield the same results due to custom not having CSM (color service menu)

Giants, does the new Panny's not allow you to go into the SM anymore and make changes like previous models? One thing that I like that Samsung started doing with their TV's, at least that I know of from last year's LCD I tried out.....you didn't have to go into a SM to make changes, everything was at your disposal. Would be rather nice if more of these companies would go that route.