LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

This years line of Panasonic plasma's is the last line they will produce. They may sell them for many years, but the S60, ST60, GT60, VT60, and ZT60 will be the last plasma's they produce.

yep. read that last week (maybe the week before). panasonic is shifting their R&D money over to oled production.

however, plasma isn't going anywhere until oled or 4k get off the ground.

[authentic]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

yep. read that last week (maybe the week before). panasonic is shifting their R&D money over to oled production.

however, plasma isn't going anywhere until oled or 4k get off the ground.

OLED has started. Sony and Panasonic have partnered for the future of OLED. Panasonic will sell this line for probably two years before plasma is completely done. It's sad to see plasma go, but OLED has all the benefits of plasma, with all the benefits of a LCD/LED screen. Personally, I'm excited for the future of OLED. OLED should be on the market in the next year. I wish they would've focused more on OLED than the 4k technology. I'd rather see OLED available in June than 4k's.

[VTPack919]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/10/42...ue-to-make-tvs

It is easy to get image retention and burn-in on a Plasma. Go to AVS forums....look up various Plasma threads.

I've owned two plasmas and never once had IR. That is the truth, so I wouldn't say it's easy.

Did a plasma tv steal your pokemon cards as a child?

[Mr.Scarface]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I've owned two plasmas and never once had IR. That is the truth, so I wouldn't say it's easy.

Did a plasma tv steal your pokemon cards as a child?

No....I just want to inform people that Plasma has a big risk with static images. I've seen probably 200 plasmas in various settings (I travel a lot and own one).
You may not want to admit it, but there huge discussions about the pros and cons of Plasmas at AVS forum. Picture quality for movies and tv is EXCELLENT on Plasma. However, image retention is still a problem (burn-in if careless) and they are not a bright as LED/LCD.
As a gamer, I would NOT recommend Plasmas for gaming.

[SuperBowlNachos]

No....I just want to inform people that Plasma has a big risk with static images. I've seen probably 200 plasmas in various settings (I travel a lot and own one).
You may not want to admit it, but there huge discussions about the pros and cons of Plasmas at AVS forum. Picture quality for movies and tv is EXCELLENT on Plasma. However, image retention is still a problem (burn-in if careless) and they are not a bright as LED/LCD.
As a gamer, I would NOT recommend Plasmas for gaming.

If my 50+ year old parents can manage to not screw theirs up I think anyone reading this thread is in good shape.

If ALL you do is play ONE game and no other content then you might have a problem. I've had my plasma for 4 years and 80% of its life has been spent playing NCAA Football which has a huge HUD that has not changed since I got it. No evidence of burn in.

Burn in and IR is not a valid reason to stay away from plasma. No one ever said plasma was as bright as LED so I don't know why you brought that up again.

[authentic]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

No....I just want to inform people that Plasma has a big risk with static images. I've seen probably 200 plasmas in various settings (I travel a lot and own one).
You may not want to admit it, but there huge discussions about the pros and cons of Plasmas at AVS forum. Picture quality for movies and tv is EXCELLENT on Plasma. However, image retention is still a problem (burn-in if careless) and they are not a bright as LED/LCD.
As a gamer, I would NOT recommend Plasmas for gaming.

My bad, I didn't know you had a Samsung plasma, or a Vizio or something like that. If you mention Panasonic and IR at AVS, you basically get slapped by your computer screen. Nice try, again.

[VTPack919]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

No....I just want to inform people that Plasma has a big risk with static images. I've seen probably 200 plasmas in various settings (I travel a lot and own one).
You may not want to admit it, but there huge discussions about the pros and cons of Plasmas at AVS forum. Picture quality for movies and tv is EXCELLENT on Plasma. However, image retention is still a problem (burn-in if careless) and they are not a bright as LED/LCD.
As a gamer, I would NOT recommend Plasmas for gaming.

Not as bright to me is a great thing, the blacks look great and the screen doesn't hurt my eyes. The bolded part is just wrong, no matter what you have convinced yourself of. I have had two plasmas in the past 4 years and have done nothing to avoid these problems and I have never noticed any IR and def no burn in.

[WildFan22]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

How do you guys feel about this T.V.?

Samsung UN50ES6500 50-Inch 1080p 120Hz 3D Slim LED HDTV (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=operasport-20

Needs: 50 inch, Under $1,000, stand+Tv cant be more than 10.5 inches deep

Dont need: 3d, smart Tv

It will be sitting on a fireplace mantle so it will be higher than what is recommended.

[Mr.Scarface]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

My bad, I didn't know you had a Samsung plasma, or a Vizio or something like that. If you mention Panasonic and IR at AVS, you basically get slapped by your computer screen. Nice try, again.

I have TVs from LG, Panasonic, Toshiba, Insignia, and Samsung in my house. Samsung plasma panel has IR/burn. Is it major? No. Is it there? Yes.

[Mr.Scarface]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Not as bright to me is a great thing, the blacks look great and the screen doesn't hurt my eyes. The bolded part is just wrong, no matter what you have convinced yourself of. I have had two plasmas in the past 4 years and have done nothing to avoid these problems and I have never noticed any IR and def no burn in.

PUT IT on a pure white screen....betcha there is something...then again, you wouldn't admit it anyway. Enjoy your TV.

Look...I'm not saying NOT to buy Plasmas. I said be aware IR/burn in is still a much higher probability vs. LED/LCD. Some of you act like you own stock in a Plasma TV company.

Just because you haven't had problems, doesn't mean they don't exist.

[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Just because you haven't had problems, doesn't mean they don't exist.

No truer words have been spoken. I would not ever caution somebody about inherent problems with plasma screens when it comes to IR/burn-in.

I'm just saying that a plasma set is great for gaming. Great picture, great response time, great motion, etc. Just have to be sure that you take care of it and protect it. I have seen IR on my screen in its early first or second month, and have taken the right steps to get rid of it within the half hour. I think I'm now at the point where I won't get it (at least not in nasty form), but I still don't take my chances. In other words, I still do screen wipes and full image content after watching a movie or playing a game with static images.

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

PUT IT on a pure white screen....betcha there is something...then again, you wouldn't admit it anyway. Enjoy your TV.

Look...I'm not saying NOT to buy Plasmas. I said be aware IR/burn in is still a much higher probability vs. LED/LCD. Some of you act like you own stock in a Plasma TV company.

Just because you haven't had problems, doesn't mean they don't exist.

How soon we forget? "If you play games....DON'T get a Plasma. These guys keep saying IM and Burn-in is not a problem, but that is a lie.... Plasma is dying. In 5 years, you won't be able to buy a new Plasma TV."

You are the one that seems to have an agenda. No one is disputing the fact that more care needs to be taken with a plasma, however you are painting a picture like temporary IR and burn in are major issues.

It just ain't the case if you use some common sense about static images and lower the contrast for the first 100 hours.

[Phobia]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Plasmas

Pros - Excellent black levels
- Best response times
- Clear cut best picture quality
- Better view angles
- Good for Dark rooms

Cons - Susceptible to burn in & image retention
- Heavier than LCD/LEDS
- Creates more heat
- Uses more power

LCD/LED

Pros - Don't use very much power
- Generate very little heat
- No fear of burn in or Image retention
- Light weight
- Good for bright rooms

Cons - Black levels not equal to Plasma
- Lower picture quality to Plasma
- Lower response times
- Lower view angle


Overall

Can everyone stop the bickering over facts. The fact remains plasmas do suffer from certain draw backs, the same as LCD/LEDs suffer from others as well. The people glossing over the plasma drawbacks such as burn in and image retention as if they don't exist is wrong also and can lead to uninformed people not taking proper care of a plasma if they go that route. Plasma fans acting like burn in/image retention don't occur is like a LCD/LED fan acting as if ghosting never can happen on a LCD.

So can everyone stop with the LCD/LED fans vs Plasma fans fight.

[VTPack919]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

PUT IT on a pure white screen....betcha there is something...then again, you wouldn't admit it anyway. Enjoy your TV.

Look...I'm not saying NOT to buy Plasmas. I said be aware IR/burn in is still a much higher probability vs. LED/LCD. Some of you act like you own stock in a Plasma TV company.

Just because you haven't had problems, doesn't mean they don't exist.

You said exactly that and I am not acting like they don't exist, the fact is they do. I am just giving you some perspective from my experience. Which seems to differ greatly from yours.

I don't want you telling people NOT to get a plasma for a reason that is almost non-existent. In my opinion they are the best HDTV for gaming, unless you go with a gaming monitor.

[Mr.Scarface]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

You said exactly that and I am not acting like they don't exist, the fact is they do. I am just giving you some perspective from my experience. Which seems to differ greatly from yours.

I don't want you telling people NOT to get a plasma for a reason that is almost non-existent. In my opinion they are the best HDTV for gaming, unless you go with a gaming monitor.

Is not "almost non-existent". That's where we have to agree to disagree. Most casual tv buyers are not going to be anal about taking care of their TVs. They just want them to work. Many of these TV's do not ship with the burn in/IR protection ON. Most people don't know you are supposed to be careful in the first 200 hours or so of use. Plasmas are for more expert TV buyers....not the majority of TV users. LED/LCDs are much more forgiving if you have kids and less TV savvy people.

I would love to use a Plasma for gaming, but it is not worth the risk to me...however small.