ESPN Cleaning House

[TheMatrix31]

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Count me among those who are giving Jessica Mendoza a fair shot. Yes, she's not an ex-baseball player, but she also seems to do her homework and isn't annoying. Hell, compare her with the other ESPN "talent" out there and I don't really see who would be any better. It could always be worse--we could have the TBS crew from last year's playoffs! *shudders*

I listened to her on Sunday night and she said so such stupid, irrelevant **** my head was going to explode. That entire crew sucks. That entire network sucks.

[DamnYanks2]

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I liked Mendoza alright till she said a couple nights ago she believes in ties in baseball. That's enough for me.

I used to love ESPN growing up, couldn't imagine not waking up and watching sportscenter in the morning. But now... ESPN can go to hell. Despise the way ESPN is now, it's pure garbage, wish it would go under.

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[jake44np]

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I listened to her on Sunday night and she said so such stupid, irrelevant **** my head was going to explode. That entire crew sucks. That entire network sucks.

Yeah, I totally agree.
Glad to see I am not the only one. Some of the stuff she says drives me crazy.
They need to bring Buster in the booth and put her in the crowd with a mic.
Go to her about once every other inning. I don't need to hear her talking non-stop during the game. I cant watch it anymore.
Ties in baseball? I spit up a little when she said that.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Loud and opinionated has always been popular on the radio, it just so happens that a bunch of guys with radio shows got put in front of television cameras.

Also, I don't mind Mendoza but I couldn't possibly have the strength of feeling some people have toward her if she attacked one of my pets. Everything said about her is so dramatic, it's ridiculous. Don't need to hear her talking nonstop during the game? She doesn't do anything close to that now lol, the hyperbole is too much.

[Sportsforever]

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On the topic of ties in baseball...the truth is that they are more "pure" to the game than playing as many innings as it takes. What do I mean? Until 1935 there was NO night baseball, so there was indeed a clock - the sun!

On average there were 5-8 ties/year from the start of baseball all the way into the 1970's. I'm not advocating for "tie" games, but for everyone to get up in arms and state that "this is the way baseball was meant to be played" is just not correct. They played until the sun went down and then the game was done...tied or not.

[jake44np]

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On the topic of ties in baseball...the truth is that they are more "pure" to the game than playing as many innings as it takes. What do I mean? Until 1935 there was NO night baseball, so there was indeed a clock - the sun!

On average there were 5-8 ties/year from the start of baseball all the way into the 1970's. I'm not advocating for "tie" games, but for everyone to get up in arms and state that "this is the way baseball was meant to be played" is just not correct. They played until the sun went down and then the game was done...tied or not.

Wow, you totally just made that up.
There are not ties in baseball and were not into the 1970's. Where are you possibly getting your info? lol
Below is a link to the standings from 1919, there were no ties at all.
Games typically started at 1 and if they lasted lasted longer than 6 or 7 hours (when it became too dark) they were started over the next day. But they were not counted as ties.I looked all the from 1935-1901 no ties at all.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...tandings.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...tandings.shtml

[jake44np]

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Just to be clear, there were no ties.
If it became too dark and the game was past the 5th inning and the game was tied, they restarted the game the next day.
If it was past the 5th inning and a team was ahead when it got dark they won.

What Mendoza was saying was counting games as ties in the actual standings like hockey does.

[Sportsforever]

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Wow, you totally just made that up.
There are not ties in baseball and were not into the 1970's. Where are you possibly getting your info? lol
Below is a link to the standings from 1919, there were no ties at all.
Games typically started at 1 and if they lasted lasted longer than 6 or 7 hours (when it became too dark) they were started over the next day. But they were not counted as ties.I looked all the from 1935-1901 no ties at all.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...tandings.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...tandings.shtml

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1927/Y_1927.htm

Check any of these seasons...and you'll see the ties listed. Further more, I didn't make this up - Bill James has written extensively on this!

[Blzer]

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Anyone who has seen Mr. 3000 would know that games were called on curfew, then replayed on a later date.

[jake44np]

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http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1927/Y_1927.htm

Check any of these seasons...and you'll see the ties listed. Further more, I didn't make this up - Bill James has written extensively on this!

Again, no your wrong.
They were not counted as ties, they were replayed.
In your standings the games listed as ties were replayed.
Below is a link to the actual standings that MLB goes by.
Also look at the standings your posted. It isn't counting the ties in the GB part of the standings. And again its because they were not counted as ties they were started over or replayed.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...tandings.shtml

[Sportsforever]

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Just to be clear, there were no ties.
If it became too dark and the game was past the 5th inning and the game was tied, they restarted the game the next day.
If it was past the 5th inning and a team was ahead when it got dark they won.

What Mendoza was saying was counting games as ties in the actual standings like hockey does.

I didn't hear what she said, and I'm not advocating for "ties" counting in the standings like hockey. I'm simply pointing out that the idea of playing "all night" to determine a winner is a relatively new thing in baseball. Nothing more, nothing less...

[Blzer]

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Nothing to do with nothing, but Chris Berman's wife was killed in a car accident yesterday.

[Sportsforever]

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Again, no your wrong.
They were not counted as ties, they were replayed.
In your standings the games listed as ties were replayed.
Below is a link to the actual standings that MLB goes by.
Also look at the standings your posted. It isn't counting the ties in the GB part of the standings. And again its because they were not counted as ties they were started over or replayed.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...tandings.shtml

See my post above...I am NOT advocating for ties to count in the standings. I'm simply pointing out the idea of "playing until it's done" wasn't a part of baseball at the start. They simply called the game a tie and moved on...replaying it from the start later on.

[jake44np]

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See my post above...I am NOT advocating for ties to count in the standings. I'm simply pointing out the idea of "playing until it's done" wasn't a part of baseball at the start. They simply called the game a tie and moved on...replaying it from the start later on.

Dude the whole point is disagreeing with what she said.
The forum is about ESPN.
She wanted to count ties as ties in the standings and not replay them.
And that is what I said from the very beginning. Your "point" had nothing to do with ESPN or Mendoza or what we were talking about.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Ties are serious business, I see.


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