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  • UC_Baller
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    • Sep 2003
    • 171

    #541
    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

    Originally posted by Silverstring
    I'm not saying it matters or doesn't matter, in regards to the PS3 and its value to YOU individually. I was just correcting your prior statement, so that other readers wouldn't be misinformed about Sony's experience in the DVR arena. Now you know something you didn't before.

    I don't own any game consoles beyond an NES right now, and I didn't plan on purchasing a PS3 or an XBOX360, just a Revolution. BUT, I will say, if Sony packs all that functionality in, it would be attractive to me and other consumers who are comfortable with the higher price point as long as the other features are worth the cash outlay(of course this is individually determined).

    Just like the PS2, families and parents I think will go toward a PS3 because the lure of an "all-in-one" wonder device is attractive. Families were able to stomach a PS2 in some cases because it included a DVD player, which still hadn't hit the masses yet. Similarly, the PS3 will be the game console for little johnny, the DVD/BlueRay player for everyone, the "Tivo" that the parents have been hearing about, and the memory card reader for mom-who is just getting into digital photography and maybe wants to show her friends photo slideshows on her TV when the friends come over. That, plus we all know how wives and girlfriends like LESS components and less remotes. Plus, the cachet of the Sony name.

    If you're reading this, your probably gaming, computer, and Internet savvy. This functionality may not matter to you because you don't care, or because you do some of the PS3's promised things on your PC, or because you already have an Xbox or 360. That doesn't matter. The hardcore of every market-cars, consoles, computers, cell phones, stereos, etc.-like to think their individual, highly specialized needs stand in for the needs of the wider or mainstream marketplace. Yeah right. We don't sustain the game industry, and no matter how much passion we have for it, so decisions are not made on the behalf of our mindset. It's the reason that Microsoft put out a 360 Core(despite how much people here think the premium is a "no brainer") and the reason the PS3 might not succeed with us, but it will succeed among the WalMart shopping, AOL-having, American Idol watching, middle america mainstream. For us, a pure game system is bliss. For the most everyone else, particularly in the modern world where convergence is king(cell phones with cameras anyone?, tvs with dvd/vcr built-in, etc.) just a game console is seen as INADEQUATE. Which is why people will welcome the "wonder device" the PS3 is claiming to be (whether it lives up to it is anyone's guess).
    Good post there. You make a lot of great points.

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    • Silverstring
      Pro
      • Feb 2003
      • 739

      #542
      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

      Originally posted by The GIGGAS
      You can get a 40-hour TiVo for only 49.99... why would you want your PS2 to be a DVR?
      Because it CAN be. And otherwise?

      Two boxes, two remotes, two interfaces, two inputs, two different settings on your TV/reciever.

      Some people are just BLIND to what the modern consumer wants, and that is convergence and seamless integration.

      It's not that I agree with it or favor it, in fact I think most converged devices do a multiplicity of things rather poorly, instead of one thing excellently. But the modern consumer doesn't know that, or care.
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      • fishepa
        I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
        • Feb 2003
        • 18989

        #543
        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

        Originally posted by Heelfan71
        why? your 360 can be one if you choose.
        I already own one, thus I don't want to be charged by Sony for things that I'm not going to use.

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        • UC_Baller
          Banned
          • Sep 2003
          • 171

          #544
          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

          Originally posted by fishepa
          I already own one, thus I don't want to be charged by Sony for things that I'm not going to use.
          Man, no offense or anything, but I think you should just give it up. The point is other people will buy one because it has that all in one thing going on. I can see how you don't need a DVR, but there are a lot of other people that don't have one and are going to be happy to have one included when they buy a ps3. I think that is his point.

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          • RoyalBoyle78
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            • May 2003
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            #545
            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

            What a waste if you ask me, This why I say I don't know where Sony's heads are at, DVR, just sounds so silly to me, like I said I have a DVR box already, so this feature is just plain silly to me. It looks like Sony is taking a page from EA, trying to fill the game with these so called gimmicks. I'm not saying the DVR feature won't work, just may not be used often at all. When I want' to game I want to game, not worry if the system has this and that. I'm just playing to game and thats all. Period.
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            • SPTO
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              • Feb 2003
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              #546
              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

              Originally posted by FootballForever
              What a waste if you ask me, This why I say I don't know where Sony's heads are at, DVR, just sounds so silly to me, like I said I have a DVR box already, so this feature is just plain silly to me. It looks like Sony is taking a page from EA, trying to fill the game with these so called gimmicks. I'm not saying the DVR feature won't work, just may not be used often at all. When I want' to game I want to game, not worry if the system has this and that. I'm just playing to game and thats all. Period.
              I agree with your sentiment but since I don't have a DVR this will be useful to me
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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #547
                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

                Isn't Sony thinking of selling a system with AND without the DVR functionality?

                So why all the big fuss then?

                I swear... It seems as if people just LOOK to find reasons to justify NOT purchasing one. *shrugs*
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                • RoyalBoyle78
                  Aka."Footballforever"
                  • May 2003
                  • 23918

                  #548
                  Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games &amp; more discussion...

                  Originally posted by Pared
                  Isn't Sony thinking of selling a system with AND without the DVR functionality?

                  So why all the big fuss then?

                  I swear... It seems as if people just LOOK to find reasons to justify NOT purchasing one. *shrugs*
                  So Sony is selling two systems, I never heard/read that.
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                  • UC_Baller
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 171

                    #549
                    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games &amp; more discussion...

                    Originally posted by Pared
                    Isn't Sony thinking of selling a system with AND without the DVR functionality?

                    So why all the big fuss then?

                    I swear... It seems as if people just LOOK to find reasons to justify NOT purchasing one. *shrugs*
                    Yeah man totally. I think people say to often, "oh i have that already so why is sony putting that in, i wont use it." It's cuz a lot of other people will.

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                    • UC_Baller
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 171

                      #550
                      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games &amp; more discussion...

                      Originally posted by FootballForever
                      So Sony is selling two systems, I never heard/read that.
                      Really? I don't know dude, they have never done anything like that before.

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                      • RoyalBoyle78
                        Aka."Footballforever"
                        • May 2003
                        • 23918

                        #551
                        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games &amp; more discussion...

                        Originally posted by UC_Baller
                        Yeah man totally. I think people say to often, "oh i have that already so why is sony putting that in, i wont use it." It's cuz a lot of other people will.
                        My point is, what happen to companys just concentrating on putting out the best console that they could, instead of worring about all this bells and whistles, some times these system don't come out on time or get pushed back, because somthing isn't working with the say, ex. the DVR playback isn't working and so forth. Yeah it's cool to have those other options, would we really care, NO. When I spend my money on a Gaming console, thats all I want it for is gaming. Thats just how I see it, only my opinion thats all. So some of you shouldn't take it so heart.
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                        • SPTO
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #552
                          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games &amp; more discussion...

                          The thing is the era of stand alone electronics is over. Everybody seems to want all in one machines whether it be cell phones that has tv and internet capabilities to consoles with DVR.

                          We've become a multitasking society, hell I saw a report on CNN yesterday about how big time CEOs have waterproof computers, phones even movable desks in their WASHROOM!

                          We will be looked upon as old fogies in 20 years because we remember the days when a machine served it's initial purpose and nothing else.
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                          • UC_Baller
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                            • Sep 2003
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                            #553
                            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games &amp; more discussion...

                            Originally posted by FootballForever
                            My point is, what happen to companys just concentrating on putting out the best console that they could, instead of worring about all this bells and whistles, some times these system don't come out on time or get pushed back, because somthing isn't working with the say, ex. the DVR playback isn't working and so forth. Yeah it's cool to have those other options, would we really care, NO. When I spend my money on a Gaming console, thats all I want it for is gaming. Thats just how I see it, only my opinion thats all. So some of you shouldn't take it so heart.
                            Cool man, I see where your coming from. But I'm glad that they are making it more than a gaming system. I don't have a DVR and I think that's cool I'll be getting one with a ps3. If I didn't have an hdtv I wouldn't care about bluray right away though but I'm glad it will be there too.

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                            • RoyalBoyle78
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                              • May 2003
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                              #554
                              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games &amp; more discussion...

                              Originally posted by UC_Baller
                              Cool man, I see where your coming from. But I'm glad that they are making it more than a gaming system. I don't have a DVR and I think that's cool I'll be getting one with a ps3. If I didn't have an hdtv I wouldn't care about bluray right away though but I'm glad it will be there too.
                              Cool, I hear ya. I'm just saying if they were never adding these add on's to the systems these days and it was just a gaming system and only for games. no body would be asking for all these options. Thats what I'm really trying to say. If I had a PS3 with blue-ray and it was just the best gaming console ever, and all these other option were not there. I wouldn't say hey I want my PS3 to have a DVR playback, or I wan't my 360 to play move trailers. Would we really care?
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                              • cjonesfan921
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                                • Jan 2005
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                                #555
                                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games &amp; more discussion...

                                Originally posted by SPTO
                                The thing is the era of stand alone electronics is over. Everybody seems to want all in one machines whether it be cell phones that has tv and internet capabilities to consoles with DVR.

                                We've become a multitasking society, hell I saw a report on CNN yesterday about how big time CEOs have waterproof computers, phones even movable desks in their WASHROOM!

                                We will be looked upon as old fogies in 20 years because we remember the days when a machine served it's initial purpose and nothing else.
                                Great post. Agree on every point.

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