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  • dagger55
    No end in sight...
    • Jul 2004
    • 7907

    #676
    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

    Originally posted by ps2king
    Nope if they did then there wouldn't have been rumors about MS using it...

    Who developed Blu-ray?






    SONY might have the largest stake in Blu-Ray tech, but they don't own it outright
    nice...

    but my point remains. It is to Sony's advantage that Blu-Ray takes off. For that to do so, it has to get a larger user base than HD-DVD. If the Cell can run Blu-Ray, and is cheaper to produce than a Blu-Ray standalone player, why not make the cell PART of Blu-Ray. thats what im saying.

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    • ps2king
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 1508

      #677
      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

      Originally posted by dagger55
      nice...

      but my point remains. It is to Sony's advantage that Blu-Ray takes off. For that to do so, it has to get a larger user base than HD-DVD. If the Cell can run Blu-Ray, and is cheaper to produce than a Blu-Ray standalone player, why not make the cell PART of Blu-Ray. thats what im saying.
      I get you, who knows man? By putting the Cell in standalone players it would also mean more money from Cell royalties.

      Maybe Panisonic, Samsung etc... don't want Cell tech in their machines?

      But I do get your point, it would definitely be a benefit to SONY.

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      • dagger55
        No end in sight...
        • Jul 2004
        • 7907

        #678
        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

        Originally posted by ps2king
        I get you, who knows man? By putting the Cell in standalone players it would also mean more money from Cell royalties.

        Maybe Panisonic, Samsung etc... don't want Cell tech in their machines?

        But I do get your point, it would definitely be a benefit to SONY.
        i think i figured out the best way to summerize my beef with Sony here:

        if Sony has a cheaper way of producing the Blu-Ray technology, and they withhold it from the Blu-Ray group, I think thats a slap in the face to the whole group.

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        • ps2king
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 1508

          #679
          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

          Originally posted by dagger55
          i think i figured out the best way to summerize my beef with Sony here:

          if Sony has a cheaper way of producing the Blu-Ray technology, and they withhold it from the Blu-Ray group, I think thats a slap in the face to the whole group.
          I'm sure if theres a profit in it for Sony they would consider doing what you said.

          Its still a business, and if these other companies want the Cell tech in their players I'm pretty sure they're gonna have to pay up for it.

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          • Flawless
            Bang-bang! Down-down!
            • Mar 2004
            • 16780

            #680
            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

            Okay, it actually is for the PS3.

            Kuju Entertainment demo for the PS3.







            Quick run through...
            • Kuju Entertainment is demoing software it's developing for PS3.
            • They have done lots of software including things like Call of Duty
            • Prove Japan aren't the only ones who know what they're doing
            • Demo titled Redwood Falls
            • FPS
            • Shocked at realism of person.
            • Subsurface Scattering
            • The more you shoot the more you peel off the layers of the body and where you shoot changes the damage. Shoot in the same spot deeper and deeper you peel.
            • Seems to "perfectly" mirror human insides.
            • Genhead and Gencroud middleware.
            • CEO Says 50% rise in production costs.
            • Insufficient expertise will necesitate middleware.
            • Genhead takes 2d picture of person and makes 3d head.
            • Gencroud alters and modifies the faces (like facial expressions), more so even gender or races can be transformed.
            • They're hoping to further gaming like TV, and push for game streaming over the net for instant gaming and having the gamer control the story
            Last edited by Flawless; 02-08-2006, 01:58 AM.
            Go Noles!!! >>----->

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            • dagger55
              No end in sight...
              • Jul 2004
              • 7907

              #681
              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

              graphics arent anything special.... but i wouldnt expect them to be this far out before launch.


              those specs sound like Sony describing the emotion engine

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              • thegreatone0381
                Rookie
                • Oct 2003
                • 480

                #682
                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

                Originally posted by dagger55
                nice...

                but my point remains. It is to Sony's advantage that Blu-Ray takes off. For that to do so, it has to get a larger user base than HD-DVD. If the Cell can run Blu-Ray, and is cheaper to produce than a Blu-Ray standalone player, why not make the cell PART of Blu-Ray. thats what im saying.
                You know how everyone is saying that Blu-Ray has all that extra space on the disk that won't be used on PS3 games? What if they made a 24 (tv show) video game? They could pack on season one or two along with the game and market it to two different market segments, those who game and those who just watch tv/movies. Depending on how much it costs to produce Blu-Ray Discs, this could be a pretty effective way to differentiate itself from HD-DVD.

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                • ExtremeGamer
                  Extra Life 11/3/18
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 35299

                  #683
                  Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

                  Originally posted by thegreatone0381
                  You know how everyone is saying that Blu-Ray has all that extra space on the disk that won't be used on PS3 games? What if they made a 24 (tv show) video game? They could pack on season one or two along with the game and market it to two different market segments, those who game and those who just watch tv/movies. Depending on how much it costs to produce Blu-Ray Discs, this could be a pretty effective way to differentiate itself from HD-DVD.
                  24 The Game is coming out later this month for the PS2. It picks up after season 2.

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                  • cjonesfan921
                    UGH, next year
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 20081

                    #684
                    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

                    Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                    24 The Game is coming out later this month for the PS2. It picks up after season 2.
                    I could wrong but I think what he said is that they could put 24 The Game and Season 1 and 2 on the blu ray.

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                    • fishepa
                      I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 18989

                      #685
                      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

                      Originally posted by thegreatone0381
                      You know how everyone is saying that Blu-Ray has all that extra space on the disk that won't be used on PS3 games? What if they made a 24 (tv show) video game? They could pack on season one or two along with the game and market it to two different market segments, those who game and those who just watch tv/movies. Depending on how much it costs to produce Blu-Ray Discs, this could be a pretty effective way to differentiate itself from HD-DVD.
                      That would be really expensive.

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                      • ExtremeGamer
                        Extra Life 11/3/18
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 35299

                        #686
                        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

                        Originally posted by cjonesfan921
                        I could wrong but I think what he said is that they could put 24 The Game and Season 1 and 2 on the blu ray.
                        You know, I re-read it and I think you are right.

                        I think that would be a cool idea. Say when King Kong comes out on Blu Ray, stick the game on there as well. Be a cool tie in for any movie with a movie game.

                        But I don't think he realizes 24 is coming out on the PS2, just luck that he picked that show..LOL

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                        • cjonesfan921
                          UGH, next year
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 20081

                          #687
                          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

                          Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                          You know, I re-read it and I think you are right.

                          I think that would be a cool idea. Say when King Kong comes out on Blu Ray, stick the game on there as well. Be a cool tie in for any movie with a movie game.

                          But I don't think he realizes 24 is coming out on the PS2, just luck that he picked that show..LOL
                          Yeah I have the demo for 24 the game, pretty good. Although they took me off the first mission for killing too many civilians, lol.

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                          • thegreatone0381
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 480

                            #688
                            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

                            Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                            You know, I re-read it and I think you are right.

                            I think that would be a cool idea. Say when King Kong comes out on Blu Ray, stick the game on there as well. Be a cool tie in for any movie with a movie game.

                            But I don't think he realizes 24 is coming out on the PS2, just luck that he picked that show..LOL
                            Just picked that show randomly since it's a favorite of mine. I didn't even know they were really making a game out of it, until I just read this.

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                            • thegreatone0381
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 480

                              #689
                              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

                              Originally posted by fishepa
                              That would be really expensive.
                              Yeah, I have no idea how much it costs to produce Blu-Ray. Maybe they'll leave the commercials in. I mean have you seen the new Fight Night Round 3 vids? They even have the Burger King guy in the game. I have a feeling advertising/product placement is going to be crazy in the next wave of games. I bet Madden 08 has real Superbowl Commercials (j/k).

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                              • RoyalBoyle78
                                Aka."Footballforever"
                                • May 2003
                                • 23918

                                #690
                                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

                                Originally posted by Silverstring
                                Why? That makes no sense. Perhaps sony won't top it, maybe they will. BUt you make it seem like it isn't POSSIBLE. How come? Sony could easily copy everything XBox live does. I doubt any of the live/marketplace stuff is patented.
                                LOL...Don't you think Sony should be origanal and come up with there own Live setup, instead of just trying to copy MS.
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