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  • Erv
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 2105

    #1066
    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

    Originally posted by LIGHTNING
    Windows Vista does not back Blu Ray and this is why it will fail. Blu Ray is not well supported and this is Sony hype.
    If you think people will spend $399 on something that plays HD-DVD's(with less studio support then blueray) versus $499 for something with a hardrive, blueray and game system that's hilarious. You honestly think people won't make blueray work on vista? That's laughable too.

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    • Erv
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 2105

      #1067
      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

      They can barely get 360's on the shelves and people think they will drop the price. They wouldn't drop the premium for one(already includes stuff they'd rather sell seperately for much more individually), and at the maximum the core will go down to $279...

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      • Spongedaddy
        MVP
        • Feb 2006
        • 2030

        #1068
        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

        Originally posted by Erv
        They can barely get 360's on the shelves and people think they will drop the price. They wouldn't drop the premium for one(already includes stuff they'd rather sell seperately for much more individually), and at the maximum the core will go down to $279...
        The question is, now that they have them on the shelves will they still sell at a good rate? It will be hard to judge how the "next-gen" will go until next holiday season. This holiday will be filled with PS3 shortages and 360 alternatives. It really is difficult to judge what will happen any time soon since many believe the PS3 will sell out due to shortages just like the 360 did.
        DON'T PANIC

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        • roadman
          *ll St*r
          • Aug 2003
          • 26339

          #1069
          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

          Originally posted by Erv
          If you think people will spend $399 on something that plays HD-DVD's(with less studio support then blueray) versus $499 for something with a hardrive, blueray and game system that's hilarious. You honestly think people won't make blueray work on vista? That's laughable too.
          Do you think mom and dad's are thinking blueray and hard drives when it comes to purchasing a video game system for the children? I don't think so.

          Nintendo could be the dark horse come holiday time.

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          • ps2king
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 1508

            #1070
            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

            Its a good thing moms and dads aren't the majority...Most gamers are 20+ males... I think the mom/dad analogy is way over used on these boards.

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            • Misfit
              All Star
              • Mar 2003
              • 5766

              #1071
              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

              Originally posted by LIGHTNING
              Windows Vista does not back Blu Ray and this is why it will fail. Blu Ray is not well supported and this is Sony hype.
              Why would Blu Ray need Windows Vista backing? People only need Blu Ray players on their computers if Sony releases some type of burning drive for them which I doubt they are going to do, since part of the reasion for the creation of Blu Ray was to prevent piracy. It's for home theater use and thats the only place people will need Blu Ray for the time being. If it catches on and is a success, you can rest assured Windows will support it eventually.

              I'm not convinced Blu Ray is going to succeed for a number of reasosn, but lack of Windows Vista support is not one of them. That just sounds like the standard Microsoft fan-boy dogma that's being spread to cast gloom and doom over the PS3 and I'm not buying into it. Though if it is the case that I am wrong and the PS3 ultimately becomes a failure because no Windows Vista support kills Blu Ray, then that just further proves that Microsoft wields too much power in today's market through their Windows OS.

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              • SportsorDeath
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 2870

                #1072
                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                Wrong. Blu-ray burner drives already exist in Japan, I believe, and will definitely be released in the U.S.



                There is a link to just one of many that will be released here shortly, and Sony is coming out with both desktop and notebook computers with Blu-ray drives in the near future.
                Last edited by SportsorDeath; 04-27-2006, 12:36 PM.

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                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #1073
                  Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                  Originally posted by ps2king
                  Its a good thing moms and dads aren't the majority...Most gamers are 20+ males... I think the mom/dad analogy is way over used on these boards.



                  I agree that the majority of gamers are 20 plus males, but I would think that the secondary market is a typical 4 person household. That's where moms and dads make the decisions.

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                  • Misfit
                    All Star
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 5766

                    #1074
                    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                    Originally posted by SportsorDeath
                    Wrong. Blu-ray burner drives already exist in Japan, I believe, and will definitely be released in the U.S.



                    There is a link to just one of many that will be released here shortly, and Sony is coming out with both desktop and notebook computers with Blu-ray drives in the near future.
                    Very well, though it doesn't change my opinion.

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                    • roadman
                      *ll St*r
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 26339

                      #1075
                      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                      Originally posted by ps2king
                      Not the Playstation divsion and thats what counts as far as we are concerned... and overall they aren't doing as bad as you guys make it sound...

                      Sony worth $50 Billion + again
                      http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.htm...&time=5dy&uf=0

                      Are you sure the Playstation Division is profitable?

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                      • ps2king
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1508

                        #1076
                        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                        Originally posted by roadman
                        Are you sure the Playstation Division is profitable?

                        http://today.reuters.com/investing/f...-SONY-GAME.XML
                        It didn't even happen yet, lol

                        it expected its game division to post a loss of about 100 billion yen in the current business year, hit by start-up costs for its PlayStation 3 game machine.
                        With every console launch the console maker loses money...But you already knew that

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                        • roadman
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 26339

                          #1077
                          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                          Originally posted by ps2king
                          It didn't even happen yet, lol



                          With every console launch the console maker loses money...But you already knew that

                          Of course, still is a nice chunk of change to recover from.

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                          • CaptainZombie
                            Brains
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 37851

                            #1078
                            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                            If this system sells at $400, I will buy one for sure. Hell, I'll buy a few so I could make some money on ebay.
                            HDMovie Room

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                            • Ice Cream Truck
                              Money Makin' Sonny
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 2200

                              #1079
                              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II



                              Most notably, however, is the fact that Sony is expected to take a huge hit as the Playstation 3's launch near. Sony expects the division's losses to increase by almost $900 billion in preparing the PS3 for launch, though the company also expects to be able to sell 6 million units by March 2007, or the end of the next fiscal year. Also, once the PS3 is launched, Sony expects hardware costs to decline as time goes on, and they know they need to eclipse Microsoft's head start with the Xbox 360 as quickly as possible; Microsoft expects to be able to sell 4.5 to 5.5 million console by June, and Sony will need to make sure that their PS3 is able to sell at a faster rate in order to beat Microsoft.
                              Hopefully that means we'll see consoles selling at $400
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                              • Kashanova
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 12695

                                #1080
                                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                                how is it the drive will cost 850 and the ps3 would cost 400 that would be crazy

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