Official Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Discussion

[chknwang321]

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I gave in today and bought the stradegy guide. aka "bible" Its like 350 pages

[vinny]

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Hey I want to go to a church and get cured of a disease, but it keeps saying to repent wicked one. How do I repent?

Anyone?

[Stu]

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Ok guys, here's my Oblivion before and after videos.

Before: http://ootp.oldredboat.com/media/before.wmv

AMD 1600, Geforce 5900

After: http://ootp.oldredboat.com/media/after.wmv

AMD 3700, Geforce 7900

The vids are about 5MB each. Quite a big difference.

[3271]

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I'm having a real problem. I'm trying to get all the recommendations from the mages guild and I'm at the one with the ring of burden in the well. I went in to get it and when i put it on I weighed way too much so I took it off and went back up and got rid of everything I was carrying then went back down but the ring is nowhere to be found . there,s even a green arrow that show s where the ring is supposed to be but it aint and I even searched the dead guy again. I hope I don't have to start the whole game over because I've finished like 2o quests and am at level nine.

[WTF]

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Hey guys, how on earth do you increase your magic skills? I have quite a few spells that says I need to be a 25 in Alteration/Restoration/etc... Now, how on earth do I get up there? My other skills are doing just fine... but I can't seem to get my magic up there. I have already completed the first Mage's Guild Quests, and have gained access to the University... I have already done 2-3 Quests for Raminus Polus... what do I need to do to increase Magic?

Also... enchanting items, how can I enchant something higher than 1200? I want to make it a BIG time weapon... how can I do this? I am absolutely loving this game, but I'm not sure about the magic aspect of it.

Oh yeah, I closed the first gate last night, on level 11... I really wish I would have done it sooner, as it probably would have been much easier back then, lol... I have seen the second gate, but not sure if I want to tackle it yet or not...

SPOILER*************


That sky is crazy when you get close to one of the gates... it freaked me out big time, lol.

[Victory]

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I get it now, there seems to be two diffrent complaints with it. One is not being rewarded for exploring because in Morrowind, you could get lucky and find some rare and unique items early. That is what my first post was about.

The second is the fact that enemeis level at the same rate and if you have non-damge Majors, you'll get your a** handed to you by better enemies. Thats what the second post is about.

The second one is the major problem. People can create a charachter, get 20 hours into it, then realize that they have no choice but to start over because they can't defeat anything that they run into. IMO, this was a horrendous decision by Bathesda. You can't really "role play" in Oblivion which the series has always been lauded for being better at than other RPGs. Now basically you have to just kill stuff. It feels more like an FPS with swords. Which isn't bad I suppose. But it isn't what most people thought that they were getting when they bought it. Some people say that trying to match the ememies to your strength is great because it makes you think in every battle. IMO, an element of thinking is taken away. You always know that, if you created an fighting character, you will always be just stronger than you enemies no matter where you go or what you to or what quests you try to do first. There is no thought in how to go about getting more powerful (other than don't take Speechcraft, Mercantile, Security, Sneak.... as major skills).

IMO, if you are going to build a world as big as Oblivion. There is a much better way of doing that than just making the world tougher as you get tougher. There need to be spots in the world that are tougher than others. Hide the tough enemies and good loot in those places. Morrowind did seem to try. When you start the citizen of Seyda Neen recommended for you, or implied, several things that you could do as a low level characher. If the first thing you did was pay a boat carrier to take you to Sheograth in the North or took a hike behind the Ghostfence you were gonna die. I like the idea of finding something too tough and having to think that I can level up and come back later. That give you the sense of getting more powerful, being the one person that can save the world, that you don't have in Oblivion.

I'm like most of you guys. Most of the titles I own are sports titles. And I like them to be as realistic as possible and make the same type of methods and strategies that work in real life work in the sports game as well. We get mad when they "dumb down" a game to make it easier to play for the masses. I think that the Elder Scrolls series took a lot of heat in its first two installments (I have never played them) was that the world could be tough on low level charachters if they didn't think about what they were doing. Morrowind had a little less of that complaint but since there was so much to do in Morrowind, so many hours of gameplay, so many chances to level up, that if you played for hours and hours with the same charachter, you got so powerful that there were no creatures in the world anywhere that could challenge you. So, I think in a lot of the minds of hardcore RPG players (I am not one. Morrowind is the only RPG I ever owned on any system) they just dumbed the game down. I mean if you started an RPG on planet Earth and the first thing your guy did was parachute into the Sahara Desert or Amazon rain forest and you died then would you complain?

[ComfortablyLomb]

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I only have a Level 11 character... how do you enchant your own weapons? Since my guy is more stealthy than anything it would nice to give my arrows a little more oomph without having to mix up a special potion everytime with an ingredient or two that are hard to come by.

[thegreatone0381]

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For those that don't like the leveling up 'problem' have any of you tweaked the difficulty setting? Wouldn't that balance the game out or is there more to it?

[Victory]

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For those that don't like the leveling up 'problem' have any of you tweaked the difficulty setting? Wouldn't that balance the game out or is there more to it?

That may save you from having to restart a charachter for which you have already invested hours of gameplay. Although it might make it worse. You might get up to level 30 only to find that you can't do anything even on the easiest setting. It might end up just prolonging the inevitable and causing you to lose MORE invested time. It doesn't change the fact that you don't get the sense of getting more powerful and being able to go more places and do more things as you progress. There is no point to leveling up. I don't have a problem with an FPS (First Person Slasher?) that Oblivion really is. I own more FPS games than RPGs. But if they were going to do that why did they put leveling in the game in the first place? First person shooters don't have you level. The idea behind the game in that regard makes no sense at all. I can see why the hardcore guys who have been waitng for a few years for the next great "RPG" are going ballistic.

[born_bad]

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So dramatic...

I have a hard time believing that if you leveled up "wrong" you suddenly can't do "anything" in the game. You can always train your skills to get higher in level, even if they are skills that don't affect your overall level. So, if you know you need to be better at using a sword to kill something at level 25, you can go do random things and pay for training.

If people are cheating the system and leveling up quickly by using "athletics" as a major skill, simply to level up quickly, then too bad if you suddenly are getting killed. Otherwise, your character should be pretty balanced and good at at least 1 way of killing people by the time you've gotten to that high of a level.

I'm a level 9 Nord/Knight. I was getting killed by things at the lower levels that I can easily kill now, like bandits. Also, I can kill rats with one swing of my mace now, so it's not like rats are suddenly level 9 crazy rats.

It's not exactly the ideal scenario and I prefered Morrowind's approach, but this is not a game killer to me and the only people that this will effect are people that were leveling up in a way that didn't involve any kind of combat/magic, which would seem odd to me anyway. Like I said, if you're at level 30, you should have at least one good way of killing things. I don't see why anyone would need to start over.

[Graphik]

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So dramatic...

I have a hard time believing that if you leveled up "wrong" you suddenly can't do "anything" in the game. You can always train your skills to get higher in level, even if they are skills that don't affect your overall level. So, if you know you need to be better at using a sword to kill something at level 25, you can go do random things and pay for training.

If people are cheating the system and leveling up quickly by using "athletics" as a major skill, simply to level up quickly, then too bad if you suddenly are getting killed. Otherwise, your character should be pretty balanced and good at at least 1 way of killing people by the time you've gotten to that high of a level.

I'm a level 9 Nord/Knight. I was getting killed by things at the lower levels that I can easily kill now, like bandits. Also, I can kill rats with one swing of my mace now, so it's not like rats are suddenly level 9 crazy rats.

It's not exactly the ideal scenario and I prefered Morrowind's approach, but this is not a game killer to me and the only people that this will effect are people that were leveling up in a way that didn't involve any kind of combat/magic, which would seem odd to me anyway. Like I said, if you're at level 30, you should have at least one good way of killing things. I don't see why anyone would need to start over.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Being a high level without any kinda damaging attribute is odd. I understand the game is open enough to give you that option, but if you wanted Athletics, Acrobatics, Alchemy, Sneak, Sercurity, Armorer and SpeechCraft as your majors, you deserved to die anyway. LOL.

Seriously though, since everyones scenario and character are diffrent, this cant effect everyone. Only the few ******s who messed their character up. If you get to level 10 or even 15 and you're not a Journeyman in any weapon or magic skill, I feel sorry for you.


BTW, the new leveling system eliminates the cheesers who pick acrobatics and run around jumping all day like jackrabbits. It also limits those who swim around to increase their Athletics. If you picked those 2 as your major, then this leveling system was made to screw those guys.

[3271]

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I'm having a real problem. I'm trying to get all the recommendations from the mages guild and I'm at the one with the ring of burden in the well. I went in to get it and when i put it on I weighed way too much so I took it off and went back up and got rid of everything I was carrying then went back down but the ring is nowhere to be found . there,s even a green arrow that show s where the ring is supposed to be but it aint and I even searched the dead guy again. I hope I don't have to start the whole game over because I've finished like 2o quests and am at level nine.

I've tried every crack and crevice in the room yet still no ring. I'm going to eb and check the guide. This might be a major glitch or maybe the ring will appear after time I just don't know.

[thegreatone0381]

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Took the words right out of my mouth. Being a high level without any kinda damaging attribute is odd. I understand the game is open enough to give you that option, but if you wanted Athletics, Acrobatics, Alchemy, Sneak, Sercurity, Armorer and SpeechCraft as your majors, you deserved to die anyway. LOL.

Seriously though, since everyones scenario and character are diffrent, this cant effect everyone. Only the few ******s who messed their character up. If you get to level 10 or even 15 and you're not a Journeyman in any weapon or magic skill, I feel sorry for you.


BTW, the new leveling system eliminates the cheesers who pick acrobatics and run around jumping all day like jackrabbits. It also limits those who swim around to increase their Athletics. If you picked those 2 as your major, then this leveling system was made to screw those guys.

But even then it's not THAT bad. My guy is a wood elf born under the thief sign, and is an agent in class, and I've managed to make out pretty well. Just have to level up in the right things.

[rock85]

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Good job Born-Bad and Graphik for pointing this stuff out

[thegreatone0381]

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Oh and those of you with questions you should check out the Oblivion 360 board on Gamefaqs.com they actually have a sticky in there.