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  • davin
    MVP
    • Mar 2004
    • 2174

    #1186
    Re: Mass Effect Discussion

    I just watched that video, and was pretty surprised. what the psychologist lady said regarding what you could do in the game. I can't stand it when people try to pin everything on the video games, and how easy it is for kids to get access to it. I was carded when I bought the game (I don't really think I look 17 but ok), My dad has been carded when he bought a game before. Then past that, the whole "they could just look it up online", that is just laughable. If I wanted to go look up porn online, I don't even have to put in my age, or if I do, it isn't like there is a guy standing next to me saying "you are lying", hell, my email account with fictional name and all has a fake age in the 30s. In ME, you had to have a relationship with the character, and nevermind the "women look completely like the submissive character with weak personalities", as if I remember correctly as a female you could be with Kaiden. I didn't think Ashley was really a weak character with no backbone who just wanted to be saved by her knight in shining armor.

    I also enjoyed the comment with "once it is in the house, instant access. If a kid is alone, I bet they want to play that videogame". Please. Same is true with DVDs. How many people have rated R DVDs, some with much more sex scenes than ME. I could easily go to my house and find something like Band of Brothers (which does have a sex scene) and watch that. But apparently just videogames are these crazy destructive forces which will lead to the downfall of all civilization, and lead to a generation of super serial killers bent on world destruction through wanton violence and assault.

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    • SlimKibbles
      Supporter
      • Apr 2004
      • 7276

      #1187
      Re: Mass Effect Discussion

      Originally posted by sportsdude
      yup that's the first thing that should be mentioned. FOX news is the worst around, it is typically 2x less accurate in reporting facts as CNN and MSNBC and some people on that network make no bones about their agenda....
      All mass media has problems reporting facts. Read "It's Not News, It's FARK: How Mass Media Tries to Pass Off Crap as News." This particular situation would have fit perfectly in that book.
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      • ThaGenecyst
        MVP
        • Sep 2004
        • 4404

        #1188
        Re: Mass Effect Discussion


        After hearing the offensive and biased attack against Mass Effect on Fox News, I decided to check out some links on Cooper Lawrence, the psychologist who took part in the biased strike on the game. I came across her book on Amazon.com titled ‘The Cult of Perfection: Making Peace with Your Inner Overachiever’. It was interesting to see that the page was full of one-star reviews of her book mostly coming from gamers. Shawn covered the topic HERE yesterday. This is definitely one of the reasons I love the internet. She may think that it’s ok to bash a product she has never used and gamers are now bashing a book they have never read to drop her book rating on Amazon. Currently, there over 40 negative reviews posted. Check out the Amazon link HERE if you’d like to throw your two cents in or to just read some of the funny comments against her. Personally, I would never purchase advice from a psychologist who doesn’t do research on the topics she talks about. If Fox News and other media outlets want a war against gaming, they’ve picked an industry full of hard-core fans who aren’t going to sit back and take it anymore.

        Some of the witty comments included:

        I am giving Ms. Lawrence a poor review because she makes assumptions that are not based on fact. During her Fox news report, she blatantly lied and completely misinformed the public. This is not acceptable behavior, and how does she expect me to read her book and believe what she has to say? She completely threw her credibility out the window. Mass Effect is a PG-13 game (and even that is pushing it, I’d consider it “PG”) that is “M” rated because the ESRB is harsher than the MPAA. I think she should denounce Rap music rather than things she knows nothing about. And her comment about knowing what young boys think is absolutely laughable at best.

        I respect you, Ms. Lawrence, I really do, but please, do some research before you try to convince the public not to support something.

        I caught her doing a segment on Fox News. She spent 3 minutes attacking a product she hadn’t used, and actually made assumptions about the quality and use of the product. I suppose when you are so busy trying to overachieve and look perfect, you don’t have time for fact checking. Shame.

        Excuse me “Darling”, I guess I don’t have to read your book to bash it the same way you don’t have to play or even research a game you are talking about before you go on Fox News and spout your ignorance as fact. You are a moron and an attention [expletive deleted].


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        • jmood88
          Sean Payton: Retribution
          • Jul 2003
          • 34639

          #1189
          Re: Mass Effect Discussion

          They deleted all the one-star reviews.
          Originally posted by Blzer
          Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

          If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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          • jerseyboi2284
            Pro
            • Apr 2005
            • 910

            #1190
            Re: Mass Effect Discussion

            Originally posted by jmood88
            They deleted all the one-star reviews.
            pwned

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            • Wheele8
              Rookie
              • Feb 2003
              • 110

              #1191
              Re: Mass Effect Discussion

              While I agree that the debate was horrifying, this will hopefully get some kids to buy the game for the wrong reasons, but enjoy it for all the right ones.

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              • bkfount
                All Star
                • Oct 2004
                • 8467

                #1192
                Re: Mass Effect Discussion

                why the outrage?

                It's just your run of the mill filler content for 24 hour news channels. Even CNN's Lou Dobbs makes it sound like terrorist funded, drug crazed, and heavily armed mexican immigrants are about to throw a coup to take back Texas. None of these people are experts on anything but filling time on tv. There's really not enough topics to cover 24 hours without making sensational claims about something. that day it was evil videogames corrupting youth, who shouldn't own the game anyways.

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                • tanis38
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 1100

                  #1193
                  Re: Mass Effect Discussion

                  This book review made me laugh:

                  "it's degrading to asaris and geth everywhere and i will not stand for this injustice.!!!! don't buy this book or the reapers will come back. "
                  Last edited by tanis38; 01-23-2008, 02:21 PM.
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                  • Flawless
                    Bang-bang! Down-down!
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 16780

                    #1194
                    Re: Mass Effect Discussion

                    EA Calls Fox Out on "Insulting" Mass Effect Inaccuracies

                    Your headline above the televised story read: "New videogame shows full digital nudity and sex." Fact: Mass Effect does not include explicit or frontal nudity. Love scenes in non-interactive sequences include side and profile shots - a vantage frequently used in many prime-time television shows. It's also worth noting that the game requires players to develop complex relationships before characters can become intimate and players can chose to avoid the love scenes altogether.

                    FNC voice-over reporter says: "You'll see full digital nudity and the ability for players to engage in graphic sex."
                    Fact: Sex scenes in Mass Effect are not graphic. These scenes are very similar to sex sequences frequently seen on network television in prime time.

                    FNC reporter says: "Critics say Mass Effect is being marketed to kids and teenagers."
                    Fact: That is flat out false. Mass Effect and all related marketing has been reviewed by the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) and rated Mature - appropriate for players 17-years and older. ESRB routinely counsels retailers on requesting proof of age in selling M-rated titles and the system has been lauded by members of Congress and the Federal Trade Commission. In practical terms, the ratings work as well or better than those used for warning viewers about television content.
                    The resulting coverage was insulting to the men and women who spent years creating a game which is acclaimed by critics for its high creative standards. As video games continue to take audiences away from television, we expect to see more TV news stories warning parents about the corrupting influence of interactive entertainment. But this represents a new level of recklessness.

                    Do you watch the Fox Network? Do you watch Family Guy? Have you ever seen The OC? Do you think the sexual situations in Mass Effect are any more graphic than scenes routinely aired on those shows? Do you honestly believe that young people have more exposure to Mass Effect than to those prime time shows?

                    This isn't a legal threat; it's an appeal to your sense of fairness. We're asking FNC to correct the record on Mass Effect.

                    Sincerely,

                    Jeff Brown
                    Vice President of Communications
                    Electronic Arts, Inc.
                    Go Noles!!! >>----->

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                    • davin
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 2174

                      #1195
                      Re: Mass Effect Discussion

                      Good for EA. I particularly enjoyed the pointing out of Fox shows.

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                      • thaima1shu
                        Robot
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 5598

                        #1196
                        Re: Mass Effect Discussion

                        Originally posted by davin
                        Good for EA. I particularly enjoyed the pointing out of Fox shows.
                        Bravo to EA for standing up to Mass Effect. I love it.

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                        • Spectre
                          Th* ******
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 5853

                          #1197
                          Re: Mass Effect Discussion

                          Kudos to EA, I hope others take lead and show no fear.

                          They pwned those n00bs at Fox News

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                          • Altimus
                            Chelsea, Assemble!
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 27283

                            #1198
                            Re: Mass Effect Discussion

                            Jeff Brown and EA.

                            Excellent response. Hopefully Fox retracts what they said.

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                            • tanis38
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 1100

                              #1199
                              Re: Mass Effect Discussion

                              Never thought I'd be saying this, but great job EA! Don't sit by quietly, defend your game against this slander!
                              www.gamerchatter.blogspot.com

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                              • Heelfan71
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 19940

                                #1200
                                Re: Mass Effect Discussion

                                I didn't get any type of love scenes at all. Did I do something wrong?
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