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  • dsallupinyaarea
    Rookie
    • Jan 2009
    • 2764

    #1381
    Re: Uncommon Opinions

    Originally posted by TheNumber35
    On the topic of one and done: Maybe they should just implement the same rule that they have for college baseball in that you can declare right out of high school, but if you choose to go to college you cannot enter the draft until your junior or senior season.
    This isn't really right either. Who is to say what's best for you at 18 is the same as what's best for you at 20?
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    • Watson
      Burrow Club
      • Jul 2008
      • 27013

      #1382
      Re: Uncommon Opinions

      Originally posted by areobee401
      It's up to each professional sports league to determine how young and how many years of college or no college is needed to participate.

      Same goes for the real world. Some jobs require more schooling than others. Sports are no different. They're a private business. They make the rules.
      I understand that. I just think it's in the best interest of all three parties involved (The league, schools, and players) if they say you have to go to school for more than one and a half semesters. Then your rookies all have the same level of experience on the same level of play.
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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #1383
        Re: Uncommon Opinions

        Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
        Yeah because the NCAA, universities and coaches really care about educating these kids. Please. For revenue generating sports, the concept of amateurism is extinct and has been for awhile.

        Forcing someone to be exploited just because you think it's whats best for them is ridiculous.
        Which is why i've changed my opinion on play for pay. I think for the revenue generating sports there needs to be some level of financial compensation and not just a pittance that barely covers education and living expenses.
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        • dsallupinyaarea
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          • Jan 2009
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          #1384
          Re: Uncommon Opinions

          Originally posted by SPTO
          Which is why i've changed my opinion on play for pay. I think for the revenue generating sports there needs to be some level of financial compensation and not just a pittance that barely covers education and living expenses.
          Ah, didn't catch that. We're on the same page then.
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          • Fresh Tendrils
            Strike Hard and Fade Away
            • Jul 2002
            • 36131

            #1385
            Re: Uncommon Opinions

            Originally posted by WatsonTiger
            Should they be forced into High School? Get rid of college and then it's only a matter of time before kids start leaving school at 17 or 16. Hell, that's pretty much already happened with Bryce Harper.


            And then are you telling me 18 year old kids are going to be able to play in the NFL?
            Well, once they reach majority age they can do whatever they want.

            Most 18 year old athletes would get killed in the NFL.



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            • Redacted01
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2007
              • 10316

              #1386
              Re: Uncommon Opinions

              Originally posted by Lieutenant Dan
              LOL, you haven't seen how full I make these things. So I sort of pinch the top and close up the back as best I can.

              And last I checked, putting refried beans in a taco is uncommon (see what I did there?).

              BURRACO.
              And since putting beans on it means it's not likely a taco, it's a burrito. Done!

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              • PVarck31
                Moderator
                • Jan 2003
                • 16869

                #1387
                Re: Uncommon Opinions

                Originally posted by Mo
                Lol, I'll wager you guys aren't having "authentic tacos"


                ............


                Madden 2005 was better than NFL 2K5.

                High Heat 2004 is still better than any version of MLB the Show(graphics aside)
                Beef, onions, and cilantro? I do like that, but I also like cheese and lettuce with some kind of sauce as well.

                In the end, Authentic Mexican >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else called Mexican.

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                • dsallupinyaarea
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2764

                  #1388
                  Re: Uncommon Opinions

                  Originally posted by WatsonTiger
                  I understand that. I just think it's in the best interest of all three parties involved (The league, schools, and players) if they say you have to go to school for more than one and a half semesters. Then your rookies all have the same level of experience on the same level of play.
                  The thing is, for elite athletes it's not in their best interest. The university gets to rake in 8 figures (maybe 9?), the coach rakes in 7, and the kid gets to lose 3 years of earnings in exchange for relative pennies..




                  I feel like I should clear my name a bit: Authentic anything other than tacos > the American version. Just when it comes to tacos, I want cheese and taco sauce lol.
                  Last edited by dsallupinyaarea; 03-22-2013, 03:53 PM.
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                  • Brandon13
                    All Star
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 8915

                    #1389
                    I think that the one year removed from high school draft requirement has been mutually beneficial for the NBA and the players. I do not believe it's entirely a coincidence that the NBA has had a bit of a resurgence since the implementation of the rule, as players mature in the time they spend within the structure of college athletics.

                    Anything beyond a year for basketball is probably excessive, though.

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                    • Watson
                      Burrow Club
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27013

                      #1390
                      Re: Uncommon Opinions

                      Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
                      Yeah because the NCAA, universities and coaches really care about educating these kids. Please. For revenue generating sports, the concept of amateurism is extinct and has been for awhile.
                      Which is why kids get a free tutor. And get benched for their grades. And on average have high grades than non-athletes. Can't speak for every school, but at SELU they study much more then non-athletes, away from the time the coach demands in the student athlete building.

                      Forcing someone to be exploited just because you think it's whats best for them is ridiculous.
                      They may not get paid, but they are by NO means getting "exploited". The same can be said about allowing them to go straight pro because YOU think it's what's best for them.
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                      • dsallupinyaarea
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                        • Jan 2009
                        • 2764

                        #1391
                        Re: Uncommon Opinions

                        Originally posted by WatsonTiger
                        Which is why kids get a free tutor. And get benched for their grades. And on average have high grades than non-athletes. Can't speak for every school, but at SELU they study much more then non-athletes, away from the time the coach demands in the student athlete building.



                        They may not get paid, but they are by NO means getting "exploited". The same can be said about allowing them to go straight pro because YOU think it's what's best for them.
                        That sentence is straight out of a pimps handbook.

                        I'm saying they should be ALLOWED to leave. What you're proposing is FORCING them to stay. Since when is choice a bad thing?


                        If you don't think it's exploitation when, literally, EVERYONE is making money but the people actually working, I've got nothing. The only other sport where the athlete doesn't get paid is horse racing. If you're cool with that then so be it.
                        Last edited by dsallupinyaarea; 03-22-2013, 04:01 PM.
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                        • Watson
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                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27013

                          #1392
                          Re: Uncommon Opinions

                          Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
                          That statement is straight out of a pimps handbook.

                          I'm saying they should be ALLOWED to leave. What you're proposing is FORCING them to stay.

                          If you don't think it's exploitation when, literally, EVERYONE is making money but the people actually working, I've got nothing. The only other sport where the athlete doesn't get paid is horse racing. If you're cool with that then so be it.
                          What the ****? They get FREE tuition and FREE housing and FREE clothing. That's at LEAST over 5,000 a year they don't have to pay.


                          I guess it all boils down to the fact that I value an education and giving a lot of kids who wouldn't have a chance at it and you apparently don't.
                          Last edited by Watson; 03-22-2013, 04:04 PM.
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                          • Lieutenant Dan
                            All Star
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 5679

                            #1393
                            Re: Uncommon Opinions

                            Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
                            That statement is straight out of a pimps handbook.

                            I'm saying they should be ALLOWED to leave. What you're proposing is FORCING them to stay.

                            If you don't think it's exploitation when, literally, EVERYONE is making money but the people actually working, I've got nothing. The only other sport where the athlete doesn't get paid is horse racing. If you're cool with that then so be it.
                            I dunno...getting a college degree with zero student debt to repay? Not exactly what I call working for free. Especially when you think how many of these kids could never have afforded college in the first place.

                            I know, I know...the flipside is that after they go pro, they can always complete an education and pay for it with their millions.

                            Talk about an argument that ultimately goes nowhere. Next uncommon opinion, please.
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                            • ubernoob
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                              • Jul 2004
                              • 15522

                              #1394
                              Re: Uncommon Opinions

                              Do you understand the cost of going to an out of state college (or private university)? They should be allowed to leave (and they are, nobody is FORCING them to play college ball) but the NBA should institute something more than a 1-year out of high school rule. I'd be fine with a 3 year rule.
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                              • bigbob
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 10471

                                #1395
                                Re: Uncommon Opinions

                                Oh, this same old tired argument.

                                Anyways, I wish it would snow every day. Every. Day.
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