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  • ImTellinTim
    YNWA
    • Sep 2006
    • 33028

    #361
    Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

    This fixture rarely disappoints. Fair result, great match!

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    • BunnyHardaway
      Banned
      • Nov 2004
      • 15195

      #362
      Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

      Every City/Liverpool match at Anfield is pure cocaine

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      • Keirik
        MVP
        • Mar 2003
        • 3770

        #363
        Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

        Wild game, happy with the result because it just keeps everyone still close. Never a dull moment.
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        • 3304Life
          MVP
          • Sep 2016
          • 3002

          #364
          Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

          Salah is on a completely different level this season. Clear separation between him and his team mates and I’d say everybody else in the league. I think he’s got a decent claim as number 3 in the world along with the likes of Lewandowski. I think Neymar is out of that equation at this point.


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          • Brahvocado
            MVP
            • Oct 2012
            • 7480

            #365
            Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

            Originally posted by 3304Life
            Salah is on a completely different level this season. Clear separation between him and his team mates and I’d say everybody else in the league. I think he’s got a decent claim as number 3 in the world along with the likes of Lewandowski. I think Neymar is out of that equation at this point.


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            Definitely seems to have stepped things up this season again, idk about the rest of your post though. Neymar when he is fit and in-form is a better player than Salah full stop. Also Salah has reached Lewandowski levels of goal production only one season in his career so far, idk if its fair to say hes at that level when he hasn't even reproduced it yet.

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            • KG
              Welcome Back
              • Sep 2005
              • 17583

              #366
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              I rate Neymar, probably way more than most because of the theatrics I assume but he’s incredible albeit in bad form in front of goal right now. I’d rather have Salah in Chelsea’s side. That kind of consistent goal threat + a high workrate + he can take the punishment of the Premier League. It would be tough because Neymar just does outrageous stuff so often, even in simple things like holdup play that you take it for granted.


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              • 3304Life
                MVP
                • Sep 2016
                • 3002

                #367
                Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

                Originally posted by Brahvocado
                Definitely seems to have stepped things up this season again, idk about the rest of your post though. Neymar when he is fit and in-form is a better player than Salah full stop. Also Salah has reached Lewandowski levels of goal production only one season in his career so far, idk if its fair to say hes at that level when he hasn't even reproduced it yet.

                I think he’s the all around better player then Lewandowski though. Lewa is an incredible goal scorer but he’s a true number 9 who doesn’t offer much outside of his goals. His productivity has risen exponentially with Muller sacrificing to become one of the most potent playmakers in the world.

                I think if you put Lewa in some teams he won’t be as great without the service. Put Salah in any team and he’s great.


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                • ImTellinTim
                  YNWA
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 33028

                  #368
                  2021-2022 English Football Thread

                  Lewa is in a personal tier by himself at this point.

                  Even with his slow start at Chelsea, Salah is a top G+A/game producer in the entire EPL era. At one point he was the top. Among guys like Henry. It is not a stretch to say he’s the best player in the EPL right now. He has consistently done this every year he’s been in the league. The fact that he broke the goal record in year made it seem like he’s had “down” years. When actually he has won or finished 2nd in the golden boot every single year he’s been in the league.

                  Liverpool is going to have to break their wage structure to keep him. I know a lot of people are criticizing Liverpool for not getting a 2nd extension done for him yet.

                  But the real point is that why would his agent advise him to sign anything right now? He will be offered obscene money from one of the unlimited money clubs.

                  EDIT: Slight correction. Salah did not finish 1st or 2nd in GB in the year split by the pandemic, but I’m pretty sure he was OK with winning the league while scoring “only” 19 goals instead.
                  Last edited by ImTellinTim; 10-05-2021, 12:25 PM.

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                  • Krebstar
                    is looking at stats.
                    • May 2005
                    • 12904

                    #369
                    Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

                    Even if it's only in relation to stats, my recency bias alarm has fully gone off after reading the names Lewandowski and Henry in comparison to Salah—right now.

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                    • ImTellinTim
                      YNWA
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 33028

                      #370
                      Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

                      I don’t think anyone is saying Salah is on an all time level with Henry. However, matching Henry and the others at the top of that goal contribution per game list (sorry, I can’t remember who else is among the top) over going on 5 seasons is certainly something.

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                      • 3304Life
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 3002

                        #371
                        Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

                        Over the last 5 years Salah has been in that conversation alongside Lewandowski, I don’t think that can even be argued. For all the greatness Lewandowski shows, he is still doing what he is doing in an inferior league, at least in terms of defensive quality. There’s a disturbing lack of players in recent years who’ve moved from Germany to England and been successful. We’ll never see prime Lewandowski play in England so there’s no exact comparison but it’s not recency bias at all. He set the single season scoring record in his first season back in the league, four years ago.


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                        • KG
                          Welcome Back
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 17583

                          #372
                          Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

                          Originally posted by 3304Life
                          Over the last 5 years Salah has been in that conversation alongside Lewandowski, I don’t think that can even be argued. For all the greatness Lewandowski shows, he is still doing what he is doing in an inferior league, at least in terms of defensive quality. There’s a disturbing lack of players in recent years who’ve moved from Germany to England and been successful. We’ll never see prime Lewandowski play in England so there’s no exact comparison but it’s not recency bias at all. He set the single season scoring record in his first season back in the league, four years ago.


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                          Yeah Lewandoski feasts on inferior teams in the Bundesliga but it's not like he ghosts versus top sides in the UCL. 60 goals in 70 in the UCL for Bayern. 18 in 36 for Dortmund before that.

                          It's a honor that Salah is in his vicinity goal-wise since Salah isn't a ST (I know he's played centrally a handful of times but still). I don't know how Lewandoski got brought up but if you're comparing Salah to anyone it should be wide players.

                          Also, there's been quite a few great players to come from the Bundesliga

                          KDB
                          Son
                          Auba
                          Firmino
                          Gundogan
                          Sane
                          etc...
                          Last edited by KG; 10-05-2021, 06:52 PM.
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                          • ImTellinTim
                            YNWA
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 33028

                            #373
                            2021-2022 English Football Thread

                            No one is even saying that Salah is in the vicinity of Lewa in terms of scoring. No player is (well maybe one guy will be, more later) and that’s why I said he’s in a tier of his own when it comes to that. Over the past couple years that guy is on like prime CR7 and Messi levels of goal output across all competitions.

                            3304 is right when he mentions overall ability, but when you score THAT many goals, who the f cares? Goals win games. And Bayern has done a whole bunch of big game winning because of him.

                            Regardless of his context of best current player or status among all-time players in the league, there is absolutely no reason Liverpool should let Salah go, other than one. The only acceptable outcome would be to sell him to whatever club comes in with a record transfer and get Haaland - an absolute killing machine.

                            If Liverpool don’t think they can do that this summer, pay Salah whatever he wants yesterday and deal with increasing contracts like VVD and Alisson later.

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                            • BunnyHardaway
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 15195

                              #374
                              Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

                              Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                              No one is even saying that Salah is in the vicinity of Lewa in terms of scoring. No player is (well maybe one guy will be, more later) and that’s why I said he’s in a tier of his own when it comes to that. Over the past couple years that guy is on like prime CR7 and Messi levels of goal output across all competitions.

                              3304 is right when he mentions overall ability, but when you score THAT many goals, who the f cares? Goals win games. And Bayern has done a whole bunch of big game winning because of him.

                              Regardless of his context of best current player or status among all-time players in the league, there is absolutely no reason Liverpool should let Salah go, other than one. The only acceptable outcome would be to sell him to whatever club comes in with a record transfer and get Haaland - an absolute killing machine.

                              If Liverpool don’t think they can do that this summer, pay Salah whatever he wants yesterday and deal with increasing contracts like VVD and Alisson later.
                              I don’t mean this to be inflammatory at all, but do you think they’d be willing to get into the almost assured war for Haaland?

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                              • ImTellinTim
                                YNWA
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 33028

                                #375
                                Re: 2021-2022 English Football Thread

                                Originally posted by BunnyHardaway
                                I don’t mean this to be inflammatory at all, but do you think they’d be willing to get into the almost assured war for Haaland?
                                If they got the kind of money Salah would go for this summer, I think it's worth it.

                                In the end, it really all depends on whether Haaland would take a lower salary to play at Liverpool.

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