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Old 11-17-2017, 12:52 PM   #105
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And the scary part is that EA is buying more and more smaller companies, essentially slowly eliminating all competition. We all see what happens without competition.

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A smaller company would never have the resources to create and maintain a AAA football game on the level of Madden and thats what people want. Unless a 2k or Ubisoft jumps in, the best you will see is games on the level of that Canadian Football league game.
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Exactly. Itís sad. Blocking (for me) has been one of the worst experiences, yet they have a former NFL OL-man on the dev team? Iíve seen so many missed cut blocks by offensive linemen (which they shouldnít be doing in the first place; most OL-men are stand-up blockers) some rated at 89+, that Iíve had games where I was sacked 16 times.

In replay, blocking assignments are constantly blown. I played both DT and guard in high school and have seen better technique there than in Madden. I get it, itís a video game and itís not perfect. But itís happened so frequently itís an enormous cause of frustration. Iím no programmer, but how hard can it be to program decent AI?

My main gripe is that they advertised it to be ďeverything you see on Sunday.Ē Man, if you canít do something right, donít do it at all.
This always makes me laugh. The reason is because I used to always say this. There are probably hundreds of posts on OS where I said this years ago.

Until I actually saw how hard it is to program AI. Its really hard. Like really difficult.

Now that isnt an excuse for Tiburon. If they have AI programmers, their focus should be on fixing these long standing issues. Whats frustrating is I dont understand what the AI programmers have been working on since the 3rd week of August when they were first made aware of the Statue QB issue.

There have been virtually no changes to the game's AI since release. So what have they been doing? Is this QB AI issue so bad that it takes 3 mos to fix?
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This always makes me laugh. The reason is because I used to always say this. There are probably hundreds of posts on OS where I said this years ago.

Until I actually saw how hard it is to program AI. Its really hard. Like really difficult.

Now that isnt an excuse for Tiburon. If they have AI programmers, their focus should be on fixing these long standing issues. Whats frustrating is I dont understand what the AI programmers have been working on since the 3rd week of August when they were first made aware of the Statue QB issue.

There have been virtually no changes to the game's AI since release. So what have they been doing? Is this QB AI issue so bad that it takes 3 mos to fix?
For sure it is super hard to program AI and do it well, but I agree with the latter part as well. It is not impossible and much more complex AI has been programmed all across the world. The EA license is (effectively)preventing other people from attempting to program football AI as well. This is what is frustrating
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A smaller company would never have the resources to create and maintain a AAA football game on the level of Madden and thats what people want. Unless a 2k or Ubisoft jumps in, the best you will see is games on the level of that Canadian Football league game.
The sad thing is I've seen the Canadian game, and it already does a few things better.
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Old 11-17-2017, 02:57 PM   #109
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The sad thing is I've seen the Canadian game, and it already does a few things better.
Im interested to hear what it does better.
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This always makes me laugh. The reason is because I used to always say this. There are probably hundreds of posts on OS where I said this years ago.



Until I actually saw how hard it is to program AI. Its really hard. Like really difficult.



Now that isnt an excuse for Tiburon. If they have AI programmers, their focus should be on fixing these long standing issues. Whats frustrating is I dont understand what the AI programmers have been working on since the 3rd week of August when they were first made aware of the Statue QB issue.



There have been virtually no changes to the game's AI since release. So what have they been doing? Is this QB AI issue so bad that it takes 3 mos to fix?


Fair enough, I never could get into the ins and outs of programming. Itís just really frustrating is all.
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After this year, I cant see myself buying Madden 19 at retail. I'll wait a week and buy it used if I need a NFL fix.
Same here. I probably am going the PC sim game route from here on out unless things drastically change. At worse I'll wait until Madden is really cheap.
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Same here. I probably am going the PC sim game route from here on out unless things drastically change. At worse I'll wait until Madden is really cheap.
Enjoy that while it lasts, once they make it a subscription based "live service" , i highly doubt we will be able to "buy" anything about madden used.
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