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Old 07-12-2018, 10:51 PM   #129
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I think you are missing the point. I am not saying 40 times are the end all for determining speed. I've never alluded to that. My issue is the inconsistencies and the inflation to get certain players to certain overalls.


I'll go back to Tom Brady. Why is his arm strength rated a 96? Why does arm strength only go as low as 79? Why not use more of the scale and accurately. Anyone who has watched Tom Brady over the last 3 years knows that arm isn't anywhere close to a 96 out of 99 when judging its strength.


We still have Gronk rated like he is in his prime. He's an 83 run blocker while Charles Clay is a 63? Huh?? Sean Lee has an 83 injury rating? The guy can't breathe without missing a few games as a result. Sean Lee is also up points this year at a 96 overall. Ryan Kerrigan, a guy in JJ Watt and Von Miller territory, is an 87.


There is way too much inconsistency with the ratings and I honestly think it boils down to having one man do the work(I guess he got some help from a former player this year). He's in over his head and it clearly shows in the ratings.

The speed reference was merely an example to attempt to highlight that even 100% reliable factual data can't necessarily be directly translated into a Madden rating , not because they aren't reliable but because of the nature of the Madden ratings as a beast

I'm sure if you went through the nearly 3000 players and each 50 + ratings each player has you will find a few ( maybe a lot ?) that you disagree with , and in those cases I'd possibly agree with you , but I'd more ascribe that to human error or oversight

Can't agree with you on Kerrigan though , he's a very good player but not in the class of either Watt or Miller , and whilst not directly comparable as players I'd say Lee ( injuries aside) was better

I'd also say Gronk is a much better blockerthan clay, who id put more faith in as a receiver tbh ,surprised he's as high as 63 tbh
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:18 PM   #130
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I think you are missing the point. I am not saying 40 times are the end all for determining speed. I've never alluded to that. My issue is the inconsistencies and the inflation to get certain players to certain overalls.


I'll go back to Tom Brady. Why is his arm strength rated a 96? Why does arm strength only go as low as 79? Why not use more of the scale and accurately. Anyone who has watched Tom Brady over the last 3 years knows that arm isn't anywhere close to a 96 out of 99 when judging its strength.


We still have Gronk rated like he is in his prime. He's an 83 run blocker while Charles Clay is a 63? Huh?? Sean Lee has an 83 injury rating? The guy can't breathe without missing a few games as a result. Sean Lee is also up points this year at a 96 overall. Ryan Kerrigan, a guy in JJ Watt and Von Miller territory, is an 87.


There is way too much inconsistency with the ratings and I honestly think it boils down to having one man do the work(I guess he got some help from a former player this year). He's in over his head and it clearly shows in the ratings.
I’m a Sim gamer.

The can use whatever grading mechanism they want.
Just want players to...
1) play similiar to their likeness
2) show some Player Differentiation during gameplay
3) AI present some form of challenge to me as a gamer

Stats can be as accurate, with every I dotted and T crossed, but if these three elements are not presented through the system EA uses (ie Ratings), it’s nothing more than a Text based simulation that just churning data out.

Instead of doing this challeng of data ideology against the guy, I think it would be more advantageous to ask “what will the different THP levels produce during gameplay”?
- it may highlight the gameplay purpose and bring understanding to why each QB THP is rated at that level

I know that 100%, OS would benefit more by provoking for more of his insights, rather than challenging his knowledge/ability on the work he’s doing as part of the Dev Team.

A Madden dev is in this forum communicating with us when he doesn’t have to be here.

I really hope folks keep that in mind before they hit Submit Reply to their post!!!
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:59 PM   #131
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I've said what I have had to say time and time again on here. I don't see this conversation going much further either. New thread, same results. My issues stem from the lack of spreading out the ratings the most. It is the reason speed is killer and it is the reason that when a user plays as Colt McCoy or Tom Brady they play the same outside of Brady running in quicksand. I see no reason as to why even the worst QB's are getting 80's for their accuracy ratings. I honestly see no reason as to why more than a handful of guys even have 80's for accuracy. If we want players to feel unique and like themselves then we have to start using the ratings scale from 40-99, not 78-99.
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:14 AM   #132
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Twitter is a different animal altogether. Can you imagine the amount of unwarranted hate some of these developers get? It's just a game and yet I have heard of some dev's receiving death threats. Kane probably has to deal with some extreme opinions. The best way to stay sane in that type of situation is to use some sarcasm. But fans are what fan is short for and that's fanatical and irrational.
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It's so much easier reading the stuff on here than Reddit let me just say.
Reddit has indeed been brutal. They REALLY dislike Sean Lee for some reason LOL.
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It's so much easier reading the stuff on here than Reddit let me just say.
I do not envy you man. It's great that you socialize with the community. But don't forget to logoff now and again. Online anonymity brings out the worst.

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Going through the new throw under pressure rating earlier. How is Wentz not even in the top 40? Him and Brady were 1a and 1b under pressure last year. Marriota seems very low as well.
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