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the CPU doesn't progress players based on scheme
just wanted to throw this out there.. the CPU does not progress their player based on what scheme they are running. its all randomized. example Carson Wentz is 86 west coast which is the scheme, but hes higher in strong arm and field general by a few points. you would think the CPU would upgrade his west coast but they don't. the CPU progressed him in strong arm and field general and not west coast. I bring this up because I had heard on here before release that it was an improvement to player progression this year that the CPU teams will mold their players to fit what they are trying to do but thats sadly not the case. not only does this make franchise less realistic in a way but its also less fun because now I can't progress my players to fit my scheme otherwise its unfair, since the CPU is incapable of doing it.Tags: None -
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Damn, I was afraid that might be the case... I already noticed that teams sign free agents and draft out of their scheme but I was hoping that they would just from them into it... So franchise is still fundamentally unchanged again.... Garbage!!!
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Were you tracking Carson's development specifically? What other players have you tracked?
Edit: Hmm, in my CFM, I checked Carson Wentz after 8 weeks and the cpu upgraded his Throw under pressure, Throw Power, Throw Acc Short which are all West Coast attributes.Last edited by extremeskins04; 08-07-2018, 05:49 PM.Comment
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I tracked Wentz, Agholor, Ertz, Lane Johnson, Ronald Darby, all guys who were within 1 or 2 points from matching the scheme. after 2 years, none of them are any closer to matching the scheme, and some have gotten further away from it (darby got boosted in man to man and zone is now 2 points behind instead of 1 for example). and with guys like Wentz he went up 9 OVR points so no reason that if the CPU was in fact progressing based on scheme that he would not have gotten west coast to his leading archetype by now.Comment
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Whats funny is, historically, the West Coast system DID box in quite a few players, such as Brett Favre. Imagine what he would have done in a Gibbs/Martz type of offense over the years?!just wanted to throw this out there.. the CPU does not progress their player based on what scheme they are running. its all randomized. example Carson Wentz is 86 west coast which is the scheme, but hes higher in strong arm and field general by a few points. you would think the CPU would upgrade his west coast but they don't. the CPU progressed him in strong arm and field general and not west coast. I bring this up because I had heard on here before release that it was an improvement to player progression this year that the CPU teams will mold their players to fit what they are trying to do but thats sadly not the case. not only does this make franchise less realistic in a way but its also less fun because now I can't progress my players to fit my scheme otherwise its unfair, since the CPU is incapable of doing it.
.. but NOW, today, there is no TRUE West Coast system. Its 5 guys at the line, and 1 or 2 of them will win their battle, simply based on athleticism. That's not even a scheme. Sure, the principles exist. But those pre-date Walsh considerably. (Sid Gillman)
... as to your main point, SUCH a shame! Same old, same old.You want free speech?
Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.Comment
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Yup. Schemes are just a gimmick as CPU teams do not draft or sign players that fit their scheme. This also gives the user an unfair advantage due to extra XP earned by having scheme fit players. Another issue is CPU drafting and free agent logic. I saw the cowboys sign L. Bell in 2019 free agency. CFM is largely unchanged.Damn, I was afraid that might be the case... I already noticed that teams sign free agents and draft out of their scheme but I was hoping that they would just from them into it... So franchise is still fundamentally unchanged again.... Garbage!!!
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I tracked Wentz, Agholor, Ertz, Lane Johnson, Ronald Darby, all guys who were within 1 or 2 points from matching the scheme. after 2 years, none of them are any closer to matching the scheme, and some have gotten further away from it (darby got boosted in man to man and zone is now 2 points behind instead of 1 for example). and with guys like Wentz he went up 9 OVR points so no reason that if the CPU was in fact progressing based on scheme that he would not have gotten west coast to his leading archetype by now.
an update after year 3, Wentz west coast (scheme fit) archetype is his LOWEST rated archetype. Darby got more man to man upgrades and now has 90 man to man and 87 zone (the scheme fit is zone) so him and Wentz are actually being progressed further away from being a scheme fit by the CPU. thats case closed as far as I'm concerned.Comment
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Yup. Schemes are just a gimmick as CPU teams do not draft or sign players that fit their scheme. This also gives the user an unfair advantage due to extra XP points earned by having scheme fit players. Another issue is CPU drafting and free agent logic. I saw the cowboys sign L. Bell in 2019 free agency. CFM is largely unchanged.
the cowboys signed LeVeon Bell? you gotta be kidding me!
worse then I thought
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Me:
Reads BleedGreen710's posts:
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I can't believe its still like this....
I thought the purpose of schemes and fits were to help draw the CPU away from this nonsensical BS they try to pass off as "Team Building"....Last edited by Sucram7777; 08-07-2018, 07:03 PM.Comment
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just wanted to throw this out there.. the CPU does not progress their player based on what scheme they are running. its all randomized. example Carson Wentz is 86 west coast which is the scheme, but hes higher in strong arm and field general by a few points. you would think the CPU would upgrade his west coast but they don't. the CPU progressed him in strong arm and field general and not west coast. I bring this up because I had heard on here before release that it was an improvement to player progression this year that the CPU teams will mold their players to fit what they are trying to do but thats sadly not the case. not only does this make franchise less realistic in a way but its also less fun because now I can't progress my players to fit my scheme otherwise its unfair, since the CPU is incapable of doing it.
Hmm but other stats may still be raised when progressing one trait sure that didn’t occur as well ?
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yes im aware of that, sometimes if you raise west coast it can raise the other archetypes as well however like strong arm for example but if the CPU were putting the points consistently into the archetype that matches their scheme it would show, but it doesn't. and if you read my follow up post or try some sims you'll even see some guys getting further and further away from being a scheme match, rather then getting closer to it which would simply not be possible had the CPU been upgrading them to fit the scheme.Comment
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To add there are some players that can fit every scheme. This becomes clear when editing draft classes. The right mix of attributes gives you an all around player. Where 3 archetypes move in lock step. He may fall in this category
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