Official Boston Red Sox 2005 Thread

[deeman11747]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thrasha

Yankees fans are sounding alot like Cowboys fans these days

Not really... I'm just in a bad mood today and I feel like coming in and enjoying the loss.

Nothing but some clean fun.

[Thrasha]

Quote: Originally Posted by camulos

Wakefield vs Colon Clement vs Lackey Arroyo vs Santana Papelbon vs ?

Hopefully we can jump on Lackey and get into that bullpen early to tire them out some for the series

[Thrasha]

Quote: Originally Posted by deeman11747

Not really... I'm just in a bad mood today and I feel like coming in and enjoying the loss. Nothing but some clean fun.

lol yeah i know, i'm just riding along with it

[deeman11747]

Quote: Originally Posted by camulos

Wakefield vs Colon Clement vs Lackey Arroyo vs Santana Papelbon vs ?

You should win 2 & 3 but Colon is tough if he keeps the bullpen off the field and is Papelbon going against Washburn maybe?

Edit: Or Paul Byrd maybe? Neither of those guys are too tough.

[Stu]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thrasha

Hopefully we can jump on Lackey and get into that bullpen early to tire them out some for the series

We missed Lackey in the previous series this year, but as a team hit him very well. Manny has 4 HR's against him in 11 career at bats.

Colon allowed 5 runs in a 13-6 Red Sox win the only time we faced him this year.

[deeman11747]

Quote: Originally Posted by camulos

We missed Lackey in the previous series this year, but as a team hit him very well. Manny has 4 HR's against him in 11 career at bats. Colon allowed 5 runs in a 13-6 Red Sox win the only time we faced him this year.

Can anyone tell me how he is Top 3 in K's this year? Lackey's stuff isnt that great. When I saw him at the Stadium... he was getting all of his outs from his defense and just letting us put the ball in play.

[GBrushTWood]

Quote: Originally Posted by ILLCHILL

THANK YOU!!!!!!!! Exactly. I am forever appreciative of his clutch hits last year, and any WS member of the team who broke the curse will be seen differently as any other player by Sox fans, but does that give him an excuse to be garbage? NO! See : New York Yankees. Bernie Williams is sucking now, and despite being a CORNERSTONE of their dynasty, they are not picking up his contract, and he isnt sucking enough as Bellhorn even. You notice other WS members form this team dont get racked on, Damon, V-Tek, Mueller, Ortiz....but hey, thats cuz they produce in the now. If the kid who complained about giving Bellhorn heat had his way, we'd see Fisk behind the plate, Boggs at 3rd, and Ted Williams head floating around in left.

We've learned 3 things since I last posted in this thread.

1. Add one obsessed fan to the mix and a thread can quickly go to hell.

2. People who responded to my earlier post clearly have little reading comprehension skills, or , inexplicably, are trying to prove a point that I don't disagree on.

3. These same people enjoy building up a strawman to beatdown.

I never suggested that I want Bellhorn back at 2B. In fact, I stated that it would be absurd to play Bellhorn right now over Graffanino (even though Graffanino is likely not truly as good as he is playing right now, hot streaks happen). Let me reiterate myself for those slow ones: me no say Bellhorn better than Graffanino.

How my earlier post correlates into me desiring an infield of Fisk, Boggs, and Ted Williams is beyond any form of understanding to me.

I merely mentioned that the pitchfork wielding disgruntled masses (the same that literally wanted to bludgeon BK Kim) got what they asked for, which is a sad statement about the influence that fans have over a player. I think it's likely that the constant harrassment, booing, and general hatred for Bellhorn strongly contributed to his downfall this year, though I have no way of proving it. He has even said how the hatred from his home fans genuinely got to him.

If I'm Bellhorn, I'm thinking to myself "Damn, I hit 2 of the most important home runs in the team's history, that should be enough to prove myself to these people that I can play and contribute". Clearly, it wasn't, as the fans were literally on him from day one this year. In fact, I've read reports that even on road games while with AAA Pawtucket, these sickening members of "Red Sox Nation" lustily booed Bellhorn. The man deserved better than this treatment.

[DuffysCliff]

Quote: Originally Posted by GBrushTWood

I merely mentioned that the pitchfork wielding disgruntled masses (the same that literally wanted to bludgeon BK Kim) got what they asked for, which is a sad statement about the influence that fans have over a player. I think it's likely that the constant harrassment, booing, and general hatred for Bellhorn strongly contributed to his downfall this year, though I have no way of proving it. He has even said how the hatred from his home fans genuinely got to him. If I'm Bellhorn, I'm thinking to myself "Damn, I hit 2 of the most important home runs in the team's history, that should be enough to prove myself to these people that I can play and contribute". Clearly, it wasn't, as the fans were literally on him from day one this year. In fact, I've read reports that even on road games while with AAA Pawtucket, these sickening members of "Red Sox Nation" lustily booed Bellhorn. The man deserved better than this treatment.

Unfortunately, Keith Foulke was also a victim to this. Hell, we even booed Manny. But hey, everyone wants to play in Boston, I mean, we are the best fans ever, right?