MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A Video - March to October & Franchise Mode

[tessl]

I wonder if they will say whether carry over saves will return in mlbts22.

[Cowboy008]

My expectations are real low for the stream on Thursday. Feel like they will spend most of the time talking about MTO and just spend 5 or 10 minutes talking about franchise mode.

[Archie56]

Quote: Originally Posted by eric7064

While I would agree that OOTP features in the show is not going to happen, that does not mean that the team can't strive for better guts inside the franchise mode. I have said it before, the Show has the worst franchise mode in sports. To me, that is not acceptable being a baseball game where revenue, concessions, budget, etc is more important in baseball than any other sport. People may not like the madden franchise and how it is (XP/MORALE), but it does have more depth, and more to play with. It has an owner mode and even though it is not great, and could be refined, it is in. Same with NHL, NBA, and Fifa. I am drafting prospects in the show every year with A potential and they come in at 45-50 overall. They won't EVER see the bigs. It is commonplace all over the draft. I hate having to go in as the user and "fix" the league each year on ratings, lineups, rotations, contracts, trades, etc. An abundance of things. I am tired of it, and sure as hell hope Thursday has SOMETHING more.

I agree that it doesn't mean that the team can't strive for franchise to be better. I'm all for them making it better, and I do believe they try to adjust things year in and year out. I was speaking mainly about people wanting The Show to be OOTP. And you mentioned that Madden has an owner mode, even though it's nothing to write home about. But in your words, "at least it's in". Do you know what alot of people in this community would do if SDS added a bare bones owner mode just so that "it's in the game"? They would get so much flack bc it'd be unpolished and bare bones. I don't want a new mode in a game just so that it's there. That wouldn't make much sense.

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[SmashMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by eric7064

I would NOT consider create a stadium a franchise feature. Or at least that was not the intention. This may be nit-picky but SDS did the same thing with the "rebrand" feature last year in franchise. All they did was take the DD uniform creator and plopped it in franchise. The stadium creator was something that benefits franchise, but I am sure it'll be all over DD and be highlighted as such. I see it very similarly as the rebrand feature. Maybe that's me bashing to much, but I can't help that is how I see it. It is painfully obvious to me. They are re-using assets to plop in franchise in order to call them new features. Stadium creator was coming regardless. It is awesome, hats off to them.

If it's a legitimate feature that applies and adds to franchise (as I think most of us can agree Stadium Creator does), why does it matter how it came about in the development process?

[BrianMcNulty11]

It was a three minute Q/A video lol. I'll wait to complain if Thursday reveal is a bust.


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[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

When I ask this question, I'm being 100% genuine. I'm not trying to be snarky at all. What in the world is a gameplay driven franchise versus a menu driven franchise? When I read that, all I picture is a franchise mode that's just tacked onto a game that had good gameplay, which is The Show at the moment. I'm sure you mean more than simply that, that's why I'm asking for a little clarity as to what you mean by gameplay driven. I personally feel that making trades, doing the draft, signing free agents, and all of that GM related stuff is all gameplay as well, but I don't get the sense that is what you mean when you say gameplay since you also reference menu driven and that is where I'd assume you would put those kind of things. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Since I agree with Josh's thought (providing I'm right in what he means)…..

The Show is a gameplay driven franchise where the goal of the mode is for you to play out your GM decisions (trades, drafts, signings, etc...) on the field versus that of micro-managing your roster/organization in menus (ex: OOTP text based game)

Of course all us diehard franchise/baseball nuts would love to have the depth of OOTP off the field coupled with the gameplay on the field in MLBTS, but I don't foresee that ever happening, because well that's not in a sense not feasible because the game has to "cater" (lack of better word at the moment) to a vast array of different people within its community/fan base (RTTS, DD, Online, etc...)

That's not to say that the franchise mode isn't growing long in the tooth, nor that they shouldn't strive to continuously add more and more depth, but at the end of the day, one expecting the level of depth of OOTP inside MLBTS is going to always be disappointed, in my humble opinion of course.

[canes21]

Quote: Originally Posted by Archie56

I agree that it doesn't mean that the team can't strive for franchise to be better. I'm all for them making it better, and I do believe they try to adjust things year in and year out. I was speaking mainly about people wanting The Show to be OOTP. And you mentioned that Madden has an owner mode, even though it's nothing to write home about. But in your words, "at least it's in". Do you know what alot of people in this community would do if SDS added a bare bones owner mode just so that "it's in the game"? They would get so much flack bc it'd be unpolished and bare bones. I don't want a new mode in a game just so that it's there. That wouldn't make much sense. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

When I say look at OOTP when making a wishlist, that's basically me saying SCEA doesn't even need to reinvent the wheel or try and be creative. When people say that franchise mode lacks depth, they don't need to brainstorm to figure out how to fix it, they simply need to look at what OOTP offers and implement what they feel would translate over from that game.

While I would be head over heels in love with SCEA taking OOTP and making that their franchise mode, I know it isn't happening. That doesn't mean that game shouldn't be referenced continuously whenever ideas for franchise mode are talked about. That game literally is the mecca when it comes to franchise modes and it is perfectly reasonable to point to it and say The Show needs this or that from the game.

We are clearly not going to get every year of baseball history as a playable beginning in franchise mode like OOTP offers, but why shouldn't we say The Show needs international free agency and a more robust coaching system like OOTP offers? We won't get the numerous playable foreign leagues OOTP offers, but I should be able to point out the different customization setting OOTP has surrounding progression, regression, trading, player values, etc. and say The Show would benefit from implementing those types of options.

It is unrealistic to ask for the entirety of OOTP to be added to The Show. That's true. It's not crazy, unrealistic, illogical, etc. to look at what features OOTP offers in a modern day MLB franchise save and say that The Show should be implementing the majority of those features. Just because The Show has gameplay on the field you can interact with does not excuse it for lacking so many basic things. I should be able to send cash over in a trade like OOTP. That's a very very very common thing that happens in baseball that SCEA has never tried to replicate.

The morale/chemistry system The Show has is very basic and done poorly. We should be able to say look how OOTP handles it, strive for something similar. Too often people excuse The Show because it has on field gameplay as if that somehow makes it impossible for them to add all of the "menu driven" things OOTP offers. That's not how this works. The Show is not built in some unique way that makes it impossible to have the depth OOTP has. It's simply a design choice and people are only asking that SCEA change their approach some and show Franchise mode some true love by bringing over ideas from OOTP because that game is the king of kings with regards to franchise modes.

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[Archie56]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

When I say look at OOTP when making a wishlist, that's basically me saying SCEA doesn't even need to reinvent the wheel or try and be creative. When people say that franchise mode lacks depth, they don't need to brainstorm to figure out how to fix it, they simply need to look at what OOTP offers and implement what they feel would translate over from that game. While I would be head over heels in love with SCEA taking OOTP and making that their franchise mode, I know it isn't happening. That doesn't mean that game shouldn't be referenced continuously whenever ideas for franchise mode are talked about. That game literally is the mecca when it comes to franchise modes and it is perfectly reasonable to point to it and say The Show needs this or that from the game. We are clearly not going to get every year of baseball history as a playable beginning in franchise mode like OOTP offers, but why shouldn't we say The Show needs international free agency and a more robust coaching system like OOTP offers? We won't get the numerous playable foreign leagues OOTP offers, but I should be able to point out the different customization setting OOTP has surrounding progression, regression, trading, player values, etc. and say The Show would benefit from implementing those types of options. It is unrealistic to ask for the entirety of OOTP to be added to The Show. That's true. It's not crazy, unrealistic, illogical, etc. to look at what features OOTP offers in a modern day MLB franchise save and say that The Show should be implementing the majority of those features. Just because The Show has gameplay on the field you can interact with does not excuse it for lacking so many basic things. I should be able to send cash over in a trade like OOTP. That's a very very very common thing that happens in baseball that SCEA has never tried to replicate. The morale/chemistry system The Show has is very basic and done poorly. We should be able to say look how OOTP handles it, strive for something similar. Too often people excuse The Show because it has on field gameplay as if that somehow makes it impossible for them to add all of the "menu driven" things OOTP offers. That's not how this works. The Show is not built in some unique way that makes it impossible to have the depth OOTP has. It's simply a design choice and people are only asking that SCEA change their approach some and show Franchise mode some true love by bringing over ideas from OOTP because that game is the king of kings with regards to franchise modes. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

I agree with you that they can look at OOTP as a source and try to implement certain things and see what would work and what wouldn't work. Even though some people can get crazy here on OS, conversations like this is why I keep coming back. We're just a couple passionate baseball fans throwing ideas and thoughts back and forth. We may not always agree with certain directions the game should go, but that's okay!

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