Why it should be Ratings over Real Life %........

[cablexdeadpool]

Quote: Originally Posted by MadManCometh

Bro if ur not going to comprehend what I'm saying then don't bother. Seriously. Ur taking it personal and I don't know u nor was I talking to u. Saying I'm not that good is a personal shot. U have not played me online, nor do u know my record. All I'm saying is the game becomes more script if shot success is based on RL % . That's all I'm saying. And a script game, is not a SIM game. Again, that's all I'm saying. It has nothing to do with my personal record or skills.

The game setting is not on real life shooting percentage, it's on user timing.

The game setting is on Superstar SIM, the most realistic setting on the game.

There's nothing holding you back besides your skills and knowledge of game mechanics.

And it has something to do with your stick skills because it's really not that difficult shooting with two of the best shooters int he game. It's not that hard.

They got 3 point shooting in 90s, shooting form is easy, Offensive Consistency on 98...

If you can't shoot with them to your liking, that's on you.

If you want make every single open shot to punish bad defense, then find a bunch of like minded people, a lot of people like you on here, make a league and put the game on PRO and yall could potentially make every open shot.

[MadManCometh]

Quote: Originally Posted by dwayne12345

MadMan You know that SIM is about simulating real life. So what you want isn't SiM, what you want is competition in the video game. Not that there's anything wrong with that but Real Life FG % is the most sim thing possible. If Steph Curry played against the worst team in the NBA on their worst night he's not going to shoot 90% from three (on average). I admittedly don't play online because I prefer playing the CPU. Never have to deal with cheese and all that non sim play style.

Its never going to be a true sim. This is what I think ppl are missing. They want so much realism, and I get it. But we have to make our own foot steps as video game players. Know what I'm saying ? We can't be really be LebRon and James Harden. We have video game characters based on them. Can u do a step back 3 on this game like Harden does IRL? Can Curry hit those insane 3s in this game like he does IRL? No and no! So therefore the gameplay is already not sim!!! So why hold me to sim-like rules far as percentages? I'm not saying I want to shoot 100%. Because that's lame. All I'm saying, I want to be able to take advantage of what the defense gives me without the restriction of a built-in code that says, I can't burn u up from 3 becase of RL % . If ur a bad defensive player I want to be able to make u pay for it. And on the flip side, I have shut guys down and seen them hit some very bad shots because I felt like percentages was in play and he hasn't scored so it's time he hit a shot now.

[MadManCometh]

Quote: Originally Posted by cablexdeadpool

The game setting is not on real life shooting percentage, it's on user timing. The game setting is on Superstar SIM, the most realistic setting on the game. There's nothing holding you back besides your skills and knowledge of game mechanics. And it has something to do with your stick skills because it's really not that difficult shooting with two of the best shooters int he game. It's not that hard. They got 3 point shooting in 90s, shooting form is easy, Offensive Consistency on 98... If you can't shoot with them to your liking, that's on you. If you want make every single open shot to punish bad defense, then find a bunch of like minded people, a lot of people like you on here, make a league and put the game on PRO and yall could potentially make every open shot.

Besides u saying it, what concrete data u have to know what online is set on?

Are u saying superstar sim is automatically set to user timing ? Just trying to understand.

At one point, ppl on this very forum felt like u couldn't hit back to back 3s. Myself, and a lot of ppl noticed this. It was pretty obvious. So was it on superstar sim then ?

Since then I do think 2k make some adjustments because I was able to hit back to back a few times. But IMO, before the tuning or whatever, that was a prime example of what I would call 'scripted gameplay' . U can't tell me I can't hit back to back 3s if he's open. That's script. Therfore it's not sim. But that's just an example, I think 2k has made adjustments in regards to that..

[ProfessaPackMan]

Some people just don't want to listen...

[dwayne12345]

Quote: Originally Posted by MadManCometh

Its never going to be a true sim. This is what I think ppl are missing. They want so much realism, and I get it. But we have to make our own foot steps as video game players. Know what I'm saying ? We can't be really be LebRon and James Harden. We have video game characters based on them. Can u do a step back 3 on this game like Harden does IRL? Can Curry hit those insane 3s in this game like he does IRL? No and no! So therefore the gameplay is already not sim!!! So why hold me to sim-like rules far as percentages? I'm not saying I want to shoot 100%. Because that's lame. All I'm saying, I want to be able to take advantage of what the defense gives me without the restriction of a built-in code that says, I can't burn u up from 3 becase of RL % . If ur a bad defensive player I want to be able to make u pay for it. And on the flip side, I have shut guys down and seen them hit some very bad shots because I felt like percentages was in play and he hasn't scored so it's time he hit a shot now.

But shooting 40-50% from 3 IS taking advantage of the defense. That's a top notch 3 point percentage.

[BluFu]

Quote: Originally Posted by dwayne12345

But shooting 40-50% from 3 IS taking advantage of the defense. That's a top notch 3 point percentage.

Obviously that's not enough for him.. This is why we need lobbies.

[iFnotWhyNoT]

Quote: Originally Posted by MadManCometh

Its never going to be a true sim. This is what I think ppl are missing. They want so much realism, and I get it. But we have to make our own foot steps as video game players. Know what I'm saying ? We can't be really be LebRon and James Harden. We have video game characters based on them. Can u do a step back 3 on this game like Harden does IRL? Can Curry hit those insane 3s in this game like he does IRL? No and no! So therefore the gameplay is already not sim!!! So why hold me to sim-like rules far as percentages? I'm not saying I want to shoot 100%. Because that's lame. All I'm saying, I want to be able to take advantage of what the defense gives me without the restriction of a built-in code that says, I can't burn u up from 3 becase of RL % . If ur a bad defensive player I want to be able to make u pay for it. And on the flip side, I have shut guys down and seen them hit some very bad shots because I felt like percentages was in play and he hasn't scored so it's time he hit a shot now.

WHERE DOES IT PROVE THAT YOU CANT? That's all im saying, show me proof where real fg handicaps a user? Whats the process you went through besides anecdotal reasoning? I also have anecdotal proof that when i play offline no shot meter and with real fg percentage i get hot games and cold games, over the % average and under the % average.

If your right you should be able to prove that with evidence by tinkering with peoples overall's and other variables to show how scripted the feature is. Like you said this is a video game its nothing but code. Show us how the way the code is implemented takes away from you being able to "take advantage of defenses".

Unless you FULLY understand how real fg % is being implemented just stop, your not making valid points anymore your only relying on selective memory to discredit a feature.

[Salad Dodger]

Quote: Originally Posted by MadManCometh

Its never going to be a true sim. This is what I think ppl are missing. They want so much realism, and I get it. But we have to make our own foot steps as video game players. Know what I'm saying ? We can't be really be LebRon and James Harden. We have video game characters based on them. Can u do a step back 3 on this game like Harden does IRL? Can Curry hit those insane 3s in this game like he does IRL? No and no! So therefore the gameplay is already not sim!!! So why hold me to sim-like rules far as percentages? I'm not saying I want to shoot 100%. Because that's lame. All I'm saying, I want to be able to take advantage of what the defense gives me without the restriction of a built-in code that says, I can't burn u up from 3 becase of RL % . If ur a bad defensive player I want to be able to make u pay for it. And on the flip side, I have shut guys down and seen them hit some very bad shots because I felt like percentages was in play and he hasn't scored so it's time he hit a shot now.

As many others have stated: If you don't want to play a game that echoes what happens in the actual NBA, then maybe SS/Sim isn't for you. Lots of us have no problem exploiting bad defense and aren't complaining about percentages. I main the Hawks online and a good game for me is when Kyle Korver shoots 3/6 from 3. Missing half the 3's you take is ELITE shooting in the real world. Steph went 5/12 from 3 on opening night, and a lot of those were very good shots - I don't think you'll find him complaining about that game.

Of course, if you want to to go 11/12 from 3 then feel free to find some friends that don't mind playing on Pro/Casual. But stay away from Play Now Online in the meantime, it might not be for you.