2018 Off-Season Thread

[ojandpizza]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

Rozier or Kyrie? Hmm tough decision...

But you add the best defender in the league and can afford to keep Smart and Tatum Long term..

Smart right now is in many ways their most important player, not much unlike how much better GS is when Dray is on the floor. He and Horford are their biggest “impact” guys, have been for two seasons now whether it’s IT, Kyrie, or Rozier on the floor scoring from the point spot.


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[RedSceptile]

Hopefully Boston so they don't make that stupid as hell trade.

[ojandpizza]

How is it a bad move for Boston if they have Rozier, Hayward, Kawhi, Tatum, Horford, Smart and can actually afford to keep them all for more than just the next year or two?

What happens if Kyrie is hurt again every year going forward, they lose Smart because they can’t pay him, lost Rozier because they couldn’t pay him, then lose Tatum/Brown because they could only pay one of them?

If Boston can already make the ECF finals without Kyrie and Hayward, and with Brown hurt, it would be scary to think what they would like look with Kawhi.


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[BleacherBum2310]

how are you worried about Kyrie's injury and not Kawhi's? stop it I love Rozier but this is not even close. Kyrie is an animal in the playoffs.

[ojandpizza]

Quote: Originally Posted by BleacherBum2310

how are you worried about Kyrie's injury and not Kawhi's? stop it I love Rozier but this is not even close. Kyrie is an animal in the playoffs.

Kyrie has had issue with this knee for 4 years now, two surgeries, and Ainge (or was it Stevens?) has already come out and said this will be something that likely lingers for the rest of his career. He’s been in the league 6 seasons and in 4 of them he’s missed at least 20 games. Kawhi’s injury hasn’t required surgery, and though he’s missed games as well this isn’t something that will likely linger for years and need more future surgeries.

Rozier is averaging 19 and 7 in this years postseason, Kyrie’s career is 24 and 5. Rozier isn’t the player Kyrie is, I’m not saying he ever will be, but right now you’re getting a pretty decent glimpse of what the team would look like with Kyrie due to how well he’s playing. Now imagine adding Kawhi and Hayward.

Like I said, it’s not really as simple as Kyrie vs Rozier. It’s pretty much a unanimous decision that Kawhi is a top 5 player in the league, something Kyrie will never be. And like I said, you keep Smart long term.

It’s more Kawhi, Rozier, Smart, vs Kyrie and Brown. And if Rozier can maintain anything close to this level of play that is ridiculously lopsided in Boston’s favor.


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[georgiafan]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

Kyrie has had issue with this knee for 4 years now, two surgeries, and Ainge (or was it Stevens?) has already come out and said this will be something that likely lingers for the rest of his career. He’s been in the league 6 seasons and in 4 of them he’s missed at least 20 games. Kawhi’s injury hasn’t required surgery, and though he’s missed games as well this isn’t something that will likely linger for years and need more future surgeries. Rozier is averaging 19 and 7 in this years postseason, Kyrie’s career is 24 and 5. Rozier isn’t the player Kyrie is, I’m not saying he ever will be, but right now you’re getting a pretty decent glimpse of what the team would look like with Kyrie due to how well he’s playing. Now imagine adding Kawhi and Hayward. Like I said, it’s not really as simple as Kyrie vs Rozier. It’s pretty much a unanimous decision that Kawhi is a top 5 player in the league, something Kyrie will never be. And like I said, you keep Smart long term. It’s more Kawhi, Rozier, Smart, vs Kyrie and Brown. And if Rozier can maintain anything close to this level of play that is ridiculously lopsided in Boston’s favor. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If I’m the Celtics and the way they make stars out of everyone I would do that trade.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Didn’t Dre post an article in here saying Kawhi’s injury isn’t something that’ll go away? It doesn’t require surgery but there’s also no idea how to prevent it from coming back.

If that’s the case, then there’s just as much risk in him as there is in Kyrie.

And the Celtics have 3-4 years to worry about keeping Tatum long term and if that’s the case, why wouldn’t they be able to afford Kyrie as well? We’ve seen plenty of teams over the years be able to afford 3 stars and in one case 4 stars so I wouldn’t put it past Boston just yet. And if that system is so good(which I think it is based on how guys like Gerald Green, Marcus Morris, Shane Larkin among others), then I doubt they’ll have much difficulty finding another Terry Rozier or an inconsistent Marcus Smart.

[The 24th Letter]

Weve come a long way from not even wanting to give up IT for Kyrie, lol

I would definitely consider that trade in this hypothetical scenario though....I know hes had a year off but man, Kawhi Leonard still a pretty decent ball player....and would be a low maintenance addition to that system....

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