Is Donovan McNabb a Hall of Famer?

[rangerrick012]

No. I'd put Warner in ahead of him, for starters. Put him in the Skip Bayless, Hall of Very Good, but not Hall of Fame. Yeah he made it to 4 NFC title games, but lost in 3 of them, including 2 at home.

[chilli311]

With all of his past injuries, and the fact that in 11 full seasons, he's only played 16 games four times, it's hard to say he's a sure bet.

[TheWatcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by rangerrick012

No. I'd put Warner in ahead of him, for starters. Put him in the Skip Bayless, Hall of Very Good, but not Hall of Fame. Yeah he made it to 4 NFC title games, but lost in 3 of them, including 2 at home.

He went to 5 NFC title games (4 in a row from '01-'04, and then another in '08) and a Super Bowl.

[TheWatcher]

I've come to the realization that, at least on message boards, there seems to never be any respect for any great players of this era. It's one thing to cite the facts, but a totally different and absurd thing to ignore what a player has accomplished. If you let fans of today tell it, everybody sucks. Brady sucks, McNabb sucks, Manning sucks, Roethlisberger sucks.

I'd rank McNabb as the Eagles best QB of all time, and that includes names like Van Brocklin, Jaworski, and Cunningham. He has one of the highest winning percentages of all time, higher than Troy Aikman's. Statistically, he's better than a few QB's already in the hall who played on far more prolific offenses with better WR's and RB's from the most recent era. His TD-INT ratio is one of the best ever. Throw in 23 GW drives. Over 3,000 yards rushing and 28 TD's, ranks as one of the best ever. 6-time Pro Bowler, and it should've been 8 or 9 because he got robbed in a few seasons.

McNabb did all of that going his entire career without a great RB, and most of his career without a great WR like most of those guys in the hall had (he only had one for 22 total games). The same year they finally get him a great WR, he winds up in the Super Bowl.

Yeah, he had a lot of injuries and as a result he wasn't able to show up in a number of games and that's a knock on him since durability is a major factor. But taking into account his entire body of work, I can easily overlook that. Championships are a team effort, and while a QB can make all the difference in the world there, I can't take someone off the hall course because they don't have one. You'd have to throw most of the guys in the hall out of the hall and shut it down if championships were made the main criteria.

[MassNole]

It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Above Average, as such McNabb has no business going there as anything other than a paying visitor.

[FlyingFinn]

Quote: Originally Posted by MassNole

It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Above Average, as such McNabb has no business going there as anything other than a paying visitor.

Agreed. And his play this year isn't helping his cause...

[Chrisksaint]

Quote: Originally Posted by rangerrick012

No. I'd put Warner in ahead of him, for starters. Put him in the Skip Bayless, Hall of Very Good, but not Hall of Fame. Yeah he made it to 4 NFC title games, but lost in 3 of them, including 2 at home.

I would hope you would put Warner ahead of him.

Once again tho there are 52 other active players on the roster that day of those title games you can't really say it was all his fault that he lost 3 of them

[rangerrick012]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chrisksaint

I would hope you would put Warner ahead of him. Once again tho there are 52 other active players on the roster that day of those title games you can't really say it was all his fault that he lost 3 of them

I know that. But it's not like he had great performances in those games either. I'm thinking of the TB and CAR losses in particular. Yeah those were great defenses he faced, but a 'hall of fame' QB puts up better performances in those circumstances.

A lot of people seem to be giving McNabb the benefit of the doubt. "He didn't have a great supporting cast". That's fine. But that factor shouldn't be enough to elevate him to a HOF QB in and of itself. Just look at what Phillip Rivers has managed w/ a non-existent supporting cast in SD this year.