Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899

[The Jackal]

What do you want, a five paragraph essay?

I wasn't criticizing, just confirming.

[EagleFan]

Vote henry and someone else. Hell, it can be me if you are that suspicious. I don't are at this point as long as we find out something by the lynch. Make it 6-6 me versus henry. Let the final four decide from there. We watch the movement. I get lynched an am bad then something is learned. henry gets lynched as is bad, something else is learned.

[kingfc22]

I still wasn't sold on him after CR's death, but if I had known henry was going to reveal I would not have used my power on nfg.

He should be able to post again in less than an hour.

[EagleFan]

The way I see it there are 4 possible scenarios now that I have been falsely accused.

1) Both henry and I are good.

2) Both henry and I are bad.

3) I am bad and henry is good,

4) henry is bad and I am good.


Personally I believe the most likely scenario is 1 with 4 being second most likely (I know I am good but it would be followed by 3 and then 2 for those who are believing the unsubstantiated lies which have been given).

[The Jackal]

What do you think about Thomkal, EF? Considering he wasn't part of the voting group with henry and that DT has him in his top suspect group, do you feel that a lynch of him would be negative for us?

[The Jackal]

Because that simply gives us another day of scanning/interrogating, and maybe we won't have to use a lynch to solve this problem.

[Autumn]

You even voted him before I did on Day 3 and he was up to 5 votes including danny (good), PB (good via henry), jackal (put CR up by one with his vote, I presume good), and myself

Unvote Thomkal
Vote Autumn

Let's go back to early on. Autumn PM'd two government agents, nfg (who we know is good now with henry's intel) and myself, asking for our character names with DT mentioned in the PM as well.

Good play for a wolf as if they wound a character name that they liked they could have easily killed them off and took over that persona.

Also Autumn didn't vote for CR.

I'm not saying NFG had no doubters, obviously I was his biggest one. My point is that at that point during the day I can't see that NFG was our biggest suspect, and needed to be removed from action immediately. It's a no-risk move for a wolf to buy favor without actually impacting anything. That ability could have been very useful once a wolf was actually identified, DT could have given you the order and they'd be put out of commission. Using it on a guy that had a few votes on him seems odd. It's certainly not going to clear you in my book.

[The Jackal]

I realize that the cunning or traitor angle throws some wrenches in scans, though.

[EagleFan]

Af of 1961 (correct me if I missed anything):

Thom 4 (25%) - henry (1711), PB (1713), saldana (1758), ntn (1762)
henry 1 (6%) - EF (1783)
Autumn 1 (6%) - king (2004)
EF 3 (19%)- DT (1850), IS (1917), Pass (1986)


Yet to vote:
TheJackal, Autumn, Schmidty, BrianD, nfg22, Thomkal, path12

[The Jackal]

I'm pretty sure I voted for Thomkal last night, I'll go check.

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm not saying NFG had no doubters, obviously I was his biggest one. My point is that at that point during the day I can't see that NFG was our biggest suspect, and needed to be removed from action immediately. It's a no-risk move for a wolf to buy favor without actually impacting anything. That ability could have been very useful once a wolf was actually identified, DT could have given you the order and they'd be put out of commission. Using it on a guy that had a few votes on him seems odd. It's certainly not going to clear you in my book.

nor mine. in fact...knowing what i know...

[Barkeep49]

After being sternly talked to nfg is once again eligible for action.

[The Jackal]

I'm pretty sure I voted for Thomkal last night, I'll go check.

Yeah, post 1655, so I'm on Thom as well at the moment.

[The Jackal]

It is interesting that the only people besides me voting for Thomkal all voted for Telle yesterday.

[The Jackal]

And causes me a bit of concern.

[Barkeep49]

As for vote count here's what I have:
Thomkal: henry (1711 9:35 pm) Purdue (1713 9:37 pm) saldana (1758; 10:33 pm) ntn (1762, 10:35 pm)
henry: Eagle (1783 10:57 pm)
EF: DT (1850, 12:45 AM) ISiddiqui (1917, 10:00 AM) Pass (1986, 1:05 pm)
Autumn: king (2004 1:03 pm)

[EagleFan]

Yeah, post 1655, so I'm on Thom as well at the moment.

That was for yesterday's vote before the lynch ot Telle.

[The Jackal]

So did my vote not count because it came before the lynch post?

[Barkeep49]

So did my vote not count because it came before the lynch post?
That's correct.

[The Jackal]

That was for yesterday's vote before the lynch ot Telle.

If we lynched CR how did Telle get lynched? She had enough votes to trigger an auto-lynch?

[ISiddiqui]

I realize that the cunning or traitor angle throws some wrenches in scans, though.

True... makes it hard to just rely on scans or interrogations (WITH LOUD YELLING!! ;)) when there are potentially people out there that can fool them.

[DaddyTorgo]

welcome back NFG. Nice to see that king didn't mistreat you.

[EagleFan]

unvote henry

vote Thom

Someone's coming down with me.

[ISiddiqui]

If we lynched CR how did Telle get lynched? She had enough votes to trigger an auto-lynch?

Didn't CR get shot in the head by a fellow villager?

[Passacaglia]

So did my vote not count because it came before the lynch post?

I can see that. It might have been interpreted as a mistake or something. Too bad there's not some way to fix it so that you could vote right now! :p

[DaddyTorgo]

True... makes it hard to just rely on scans or interrogations (WITH LOUD YELLING!! ;)) when there are potentially people out there that can fool them.

right. and i recognize this. but we don't know for sure there's a cunning, and i think you have to let the scanning and interrogating play out completely before you go lynching people who have been cleared that way looking for a cunning.

[kingfc22]

If we lynched CR how did Telle get lynched? She had enough votes to trigger an auto-lynch?

ntn shot CR.

[The Jackal]

Didn't CR get shot in the head by a fellow villager?

I'm so confused. I must've glazed over the lynch posts last night, I was pretty tired.

[nfg22]

I dont like pass...

VOTE PASS

[nfg22]

Pass had something to do with my dissapearence...

[The Jackal]

ntn shot CR.

Wow, I definitely missed that. I remember reading about people saying good job ntn but had no idea what they were talking about, haha.

[DaddyTorgo]

*waves to nfg*

[The Jackal]

Well good friggin job ntn, sorry I missed that.

Now I'm not exactly sure who I want to vote for, though I'm still leaning Thomkal.

[DaddyTorgo]

Pass had something to do with my dissapearence...

Pass did? did you learn this while you were gone? because Pass has also cleared saldana and damned EagleFan...so if you know something (aka "pass is evil" that might improve EF's standing and damn saldana...

[Autumn]

Did pass not just confirm that EF was a wolf with his ability? That was what you said, right Pass?

[kingfc22]

Pass had something to do with my dissapearence...

Ummmm no he didn't.

[DaddyTorgo]

UNVOTE EAGLEFAN

[EagleFan]

As long as someone is in the running with me I really don't care who. Bring someone along for the ride so we learn something if you lynch me. If a vilager must be lynched at least learn something.

[nfg22]

Pass is evil...

[The Jackal]

Did pass not just confirm that EF was a wolf with his ability? That was what you said, right Pass?

Oh, right.

VOTE EF

In all my confusion over the lynch I forgot about that.

[nfg22]

Pass is bad....king...i wouldnt side with him. He did have something to do with it...and if you lie about it you must be a wolf too...

[DaddyTorgo]

are you confused nfg?

kingfc confessed to dissapearing you...did you learn something about Pass while you were dissapeared though?

[The Jackal]

Wait, what?

UNVOTE EF

[EagleFan]

Okay, everyone is toying with me.

[DaddyTorgo]

that seals it for me.

pass/kingfc22/saldana as the last 3 wolves?

[The Jackal]

Pass is evil...

Why are you sure of this?

[Passacaglia]

*waves to nfg*

*waves also* What...hey!?!?!

[EagleFan]

unvote Thom

vote Pass

[The Jackal]

that seals it for me.

pass/kingfc22/saldana as the last 3 wolves?

Saldana? And henry is the traitor?

[DaddyTorgo]

Why are you sure of this?

i trust NFG. That should be enough for you.

Everyone should move votes to Pass

[hoopsguy]

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/24/images/thumb/c/c9/24_split_clock_screenshot.jpg/250px-24_split_clock_screenshot.jpg


Now that is what I'm talking about! Clearly I am a motivational genius.

[nfg22]

All im saying is Pass is bad. He did have something to do with it and I can explain that later...

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE PASSACAGLIA

[nfg22]

I have to go to work in ten...so...

[DaddyTorgo]

votes need to move to Pass. Let's bang a lynch out before the weekend.

[Passacaglia]

All im saying is Pass is bad. He did have something to do with it and I can explain that later...

I thought king did it.

[DaddyTorgo]

I have to go to work in ten...so...

I shall persuade our fellow villagers good sir...never fear.

[The Jackal]

i trust NFG. That should be enough for you.

Everyone should move votes to Pass

Alright, Jack.

VOTE PASS

I still found that hit and run vote on EF suspicious, even though he said he was using a power beforehand. Usually when villagers nail a wolf they get pretty excited about it in a vote post.

[DaddyTorgo]

I thought king did it.

quiet wolfy.

either you're evil (and thus EF is probably clean and saldana is evil with you) or nfg is evil and all bets are off.

[Autumn]

Pass did? did you learn this while you were gone? because Pass has also cleared saldana and damned EagleFan...so if you know something (aka "pass is evil" that might improve EF's standing and damn saldana...

Whoa, and what? Didn't King tell us he was the one that sent nfg off?

This is funny business all around.

Who's zooming who?

[The Jackal]

Not that he ran anywhere, he's still here.

[The Jackal]

Whoa, and what? Didn't King tell us he was the one that sent nfg off?

This is funny business all around.

Who's zooming who?

This is pretty crazy.

[The Jackal]

quiet wolfy.

either you're evil (and thus EF is probably clean and saldana is evil with you) or nfg is evil and all bets are off.

If this is correct you know that means henry is the traitor and EF is never going to let you hear the end of it. ;)

[PurdueBrad]

Okay, second time being dense apparently. First we think Thomkal is a wolf and are putting him up against EF as a wolf who then wants us to put up Henry as a wolf and now we think that Pass/Kingfc22/Saldana are wolves. Of course, that doesn't add up if Henry's info is right and we've got a crapload of wolfy suspects again.

unvote Thomkal

[Passacaglia]

that seals it for me.

pass/kingfc22/saldana as the last 3 wolves?

If I'm bad, and I was the one who did dirty things to NFG, why would I have a fellow baddie cop to it? That doesn't make sense to me.

[nfg22]

quiet wolfy.

either you're evil (and thus EF is probably clean and saldana is evil with you) or nfg is evil and all bets are off.

You dont trust me yet? After all the times I used my ability to save you?

[Autumn]

votes need to move to Pass. Let's bang a lynch out before the weekend.

Wait, where have I seen this before ...

Can we hear what the story is before we all throw down a quick lynch. Doesn't this contradict a bunch of things?

[Passacaglia]

And I thought sal was good.

[nfg22]

I dont know if king was a villager and did it or not. But you tried something very evil during it...I was never told who did it but someone tried to kill me while I was out...and it was you..I caught you jerk...

[kingfc22]

First, let me say that I'm not tying myself with Pass.

But I know in fact that I am the sole reason that nfg was gone for 16 hours. So for nfg to come out and say that Pass was responsible does not jive with me.

[nfg22]

Problem is...I can save people...and you cant save yourself now...

[Passacaglia]

I dont know if king was a villager and did it or not. But you tried something very evil during it...I was never told who did it but someone tried to kill me while I was out...and it was you..I caught you jerk...

Damnit I wish I still had one of my soothsayer abilities right now. I guess it wouldn't help much since you're accusing me, but still. Man.

[The Jackal]

I dont know if king was a villager and did it or not. But you tried something very evil during it...I was never told who did it but someone tried to kill me while I was out...and it was you..I caught you jerk...

Thank you for giving us some kind of idea what might have happened. I could see a wolf with a power like that, to kill someone while under interrogation - it seems like there are multiple people with the power to interrogate. But it also sounds plausible that it was made up, though DT trusts NFG so that's pretty much good enough for me currently.

[Passacaglia]

And damnit NFG, did you really have to come up with these false accusations 20 minutes before I was going to work out? Geez!

[JAG]

This day has more twists than any episode of 24 I can think of.

[nfg22]

First, let me say that I'm not tying myself with Pass.

But I know in fact that I am the sole reason that nfg was gone for 16 hours. So for nfg to come out and say that Pass was responsible does not jive with me.

Basically I was told I was out...so I was...then in the middle...a kill attempt was tried...Im not a BG but I have the chance to save certain people...I guess it worked for me and Pass came up the culprit..

[DaddyTorgo]

Wait, where have I seen this before ...

Can we hear what the story is before we all throw down a quick lynch. Doesn't this contradict a bunch of things?

the story is I trust nfg. more than i trust pass. more than i trust kingfc.

so either pass was a wolf (still possible, he's not high-trust) or nfg is a wolf.

and i don't think there's any way that nfg is a wolf.

[The Jackal]

As the confusion settles I'm going to try to contemplate why a wolf would make nfg's play.

[kingfc22]

Unvote Autumn

You're still on my list, but this craziness needs to get sorted out.

[nfg22]

I am president Suvarov... I am not a BG but I have body guards around me at all times. I get to pick one person to be close to and save...I chose Jack and saved him twice...now i guess since I was alone, it saved me. My body guards said Pass was to blame...

[DaddyTorgo]

First, let me say that I'm not tying myself with Pass.

But I know in fact that I am the sole reason that nfg was gone for 16 hours. So for nfg to come out and say that Pass was responsible does not jive with me.

i believe NFG based on one of our last PM's before the PM's went down. i think he may not be giving a 100% accurate picture of what happened in order to obscure things, but i believe him.

[The Jackal]

So king, you knew nothing of this? Were you with NFG the entire time?

[nfg22]

argue that PASS

[ISiddiqui]

Whoa, and what? Didn't King tell us he was the one that sent nfg off?

Yep, so if Pass made NFG disappear, but King said he did it, that means that King and Pass are working together. Also seems to make EF right that henry's list was not on the up and up.

Sorry for jumping on you, EF

Unvote EaglesFan

I'm thiiiiis close to voting for Pass, but I want to hear more from NFG on this.

[DaddyTorgo]

and there he goes giving the accurate picture

[nfg22]

King may have just incapatictated me...Pass tried to kill me while I was in discipline..

[nfg22]

Sorry I revealed DT...I dont want anyone to doubt

[Passacaglia]

argue that PASS

Sure. Your bodyguards were wrong.

[Autumn]

the story is I trust nfg. more than i trust pass. more than i trust kingfc.

so either pass was a wolf (still possible, he's not high-trust) or nfg is a wolf.

and i don't think there's any way that nfg is a wolf.

This story isn't making sense to me at all. I'm afraid we're at lynch number, so I'm holding on for a second. You don't thinkt here's any chance that nfg, while good, was fed wrong info? Because that would mean three different kill attempts last night?

[nfg22]

Sure. Your bodyguards were wrong.

Really?...they have a wolf paw:p

[Passacaglia]

King may have just incapatictated me...Pass tried to kill me while I was in discipline..

Wait, I tried to kill DT *and* I tried to kill you? Apparently I'm quite the supervillain.

[PurdueBrad]

Sorry for jumping on you, EF


I'm not sorry, if it weren't for this ginormous silver cup sitting here I would be really, really livid right now. But I guess I'll just go back to hoisting this cup. Hmmm...maybe I'll name it Stanley. :p

[PurdueBrad]

Oh, and the above goes to Jackal too.

[kingfc22]

So king, you knew nothing of this? Were you with NFG the entire time?

I knew nothing of this. My role PM doesn't state where I am when I activate my power.

It just says that I take the player out of the game for 16 hours, blocking any action (PM, posts, voting, etc). Now I'm curious because I would figure it would block powers as well...

[DaddyTorgo]

i maintain that my list is correct though, regardless of whether henry's is correct. my list cannot be incorrect (notwithstanding it may include a traitor or a cunning wolf).

[nfg22]

You must be...but I think the NK was DT and your ability is to kill incapacitated people...and u tried to kill me and failed..

[DaddyTorgo]

Sorry I revealed DT...I dont want anyone to doubt

It's cool - especially since you netted us another wolf.

[Barkeep49]

FBI agents come into the building and escort nfg away holding him in a detention cell for the time being.

[nfg22]

People...DT knows im good..he said so. Believe me...

[The Jackal]

friggin FBI

[nfg22]

oops sorry...

[Autumn]

i maintain that my list is correct though, regardless of whether henry's is correct. my list cannot be incorrect (notwithstanding it may include a traitor or a cunning wolf).

well if you're backing nfg then henry's list is wrong, correct? And the chance of there being a traitor or cunning seems near 100% in this game.

I'll vote Pass as long as you think you've thought this through.

[DaddyTorgo]

alright - who's fucking with nfg this time?

[Passacaglia]

Oh so now NFG gets imprisoned and can't say anything more? Convenient.

[PurdueBrad]

I'm still very, very torn. For now

vote Pass

[Autumn]

wtf?

[Autumn]

That wasn't you DT?

[EagleFan]

Okay, this is a rollercoaster for me at the moment (I have gone from dumbfounded that I couldn't get anyone to listen to ticked that it seemed like everyone had turned against me, in my head at least, to now even more confused about the nfg thing, just who took him?). I am going to step away and clear my head. I think I am still concerned with henry's status and claim but we'll see how the next day turns out. It looks like we're going to have a weekend to decide what to do next.

[The Jackal]

well if you're backing nfg then henry's list is wrong, correct? And the chance of there being a traitor or cunning seems near 100% in this game.

I'll vote Pass as long as you think you've thought this through.

The only way it would make henry's list wrong is if saldana is actually a wolf, which DT suggested, but I don't recall the connection between saldana/Pass

[kingfc22]

alright - who's fucking with nfg this time?

Not me.:banghead:

[Passacaglia]

I'm still very, very torn. For now

vote Pass

Yeah dude, that doesn't sound very torn to me. :p

[Passacaglia]

Okay, this is a rollercoaster for me at the moment (I have gone from dumbfounded that I couldn't get anyone to listen to ticked that it seemed like everyone had turned against me, in my head at least, to now even more confused about the nfg thing, just who took him?). I am going to step away and clear my head. I think I am still concerned with henry's status and claim but we'll see how the next day turns out. It looks like we're going to have a weekend to decide what to do next.

Yes, you definitely gained the most in this.

[ISiddiqui]

Because that would mean three different kill attempts last night?

Huh... that's right, isn't it? Danny, Jack, and NFG in one night then.

[path12]

The way I see it there are 4 possible scenarios now that I have been falsely accused.

1) Both henry and I are good.

2) Both henry and I are bad.

3) I am bad and henry is good,

4) henry is bad and I am good.



Catching up before I vote and am gone until evening......but I have to say, wouldn't these be the only possible scenarios BEFORE you were accused? ;)

[kingfc22]

Huh... that's right, isn't it? Danny, Jack, and NFG in one night then.

Something sticks to high heaven right now.

[DaddyTorgo]

well if you're backing nfg then henry's list is wrong, correct? And the chance of there being a traitor or cunning seems near 100% in this game.

I'll vote Pass as long as you think you've thought this through.

i have.

the only way i can see this being wrong is if suvarov is a traitor or cunning(in which case the wolves win and we might as well go home now), or if somebody had a power to drug him and mess with his mind and make him think he saw something he didn't.

i think the first of those is basically impossible, and i think the second of those is wayyyyyy out there on the list of potential things.

plus, if we lynch pass and he somehow is good - we have cleared saldana (who pass vouched for as soothsayer), so we're only down one villager.

[kingfc22]

Catching up before I vote and am gone until evening......but I have to say, wouldn't these be the only possible scenarios BEFORE you were accused? ;)

LOL

[DaddyTorgo]

That wasn't you DT?

no

[Autumn]

DT, is it possible NFG has another win scenario?

Anyone owning up to doing that to nfg? It makes me believe him since the only reason I can see to take him away is to get at Jack? But who here is in charge of the FBI?

[DaddyTorgo]

The only way it would make henry's list wrong is if saldana is actually a wolf, which DT suggested, but I don't recall the connection between saldana/Pass

soothsayer-pass vouched for saldana.

[The Jackal]

soothsayer-pass vouched for saldana.

Thanks.

[ISiddiqui]

FBI agents come into the building and escort nfg away holding him in a detention cell for the time being.

Poor NFG, thrown behind bars right after he got out? Obviously he said too much for someone...

[The Jackal]

Poor NFG, thrown behind bars right after he got out? Obviously he said too much for someone...

Is that someone you?

[Autumn]

i have.

the only way i can see this being wrong is if suvarov is a traitor or cunning(in which case the wolves win and we might as well go home now), or if somebody had a power to drug him and mess with his mind and make him think he saw something he didn't.

i think the first of those is basically impossible, and i think the second of those is wayyyyyy out there on the list of potential things.

plus, if we lynch pass and he somehow is good - we have cleared saldana (who pass vouched for as soothsayer), so we're only down one villager.

Why do you think Sukarov being a cunning or traitor is imposisble?

I agree the second is way out there. I'm glad I hesitated on stringing EF up, I guess. So if Pass is good, Saldana is vouched for and we lynch nfg? If Pass is bad, saldana's bad and EF is bad?

This is frigging confusing.

[DaddyTorgo]

DT, is it possible NFG has another win scenario?

Anyone owning up to doing that to nfg? It makes me believe him since the only reason I can see to take him away is to get at Jack? But who here is in charge of the FBI?

not possible IMO. Wouldn't make any sense by the standard rules of WW.

ISiddiqui has a power related to the government - maybe he was lying about what exactly it was and he's one of the wolves?

[DaddyTorgo]

Is that someone you?

methinks by that statement he is. isiddiqui claimed a power related to government - maybe he was trying to play it close to his real power and he's the conspirator inside the fbi

[Passacaglia]

Okay, as much as I want to stay and rail about this, I should really work out. Back in an hour, at which point, I will continue railing.

[path12]

Basically I was told I was out...so I was...then in the middle...a kill attempt was tried...Im not a BG but I have the chance to save certain people...I guess it worked for me and Pass came up the culprit..

Make sure your PM says what you think it says and reply before I put a vote down.

[DaddyTorgo]

Why do you think Sukarov being a cunning or traitor is imposisble?

I agree the second is way out there. I'm glad I hesitated on stringing EF up, I guess. So if Pass is good, Saldana is vouched for and we lynch nfg? If Pass is bad, saldana's bad and EF is bad?

This is frigging confusing.

i just think it is.

if pass is good then saldana is vouched for and we CONSIDER lynching nfg (or seriously consider the fact that the 2nd way is wayyyyy out there).

if pass is bad then i PRESUME saldana is bad and EF may/is likely to be good.

[ISiddiqui]

Is that someone you?

It wasn't me. I have absolutely nothing to fear from NFG's spilling the beans about who put him away.

[path12]

DT, why do you say that if Sukarov is cunning then the wolves win?

[The Jackal]

DT, why do you say that if Sukarov is cunning then the wolves win?

+1

Because remember if you think he is too powerful.. you are Jack Bauer.

[The Jackal]

And it's usually the people closest to the good people that betray them in the show. :)

[ISiddiqui]

methinks by that statement he is. isiddiqui claimed a power related to government - maybe he was trying to play it close to his real power and he's the conspirator inside the fbi

I was trying to claim it was either king or saldana, but to further clear myself, I'll note that my character was never associated with the FBI in the show.

[path12]

Is there an updated count, BTW? I really do have to run soon.

[DaddyTorgo]

as long as nfg is confident in his vote i am confident in mine

[DaddyTorgo]

I was trying to claim it was either king or saldana, but to further clear myself, I'll note that my character was never associated with the FBI in the show.

aaah okay. i couldn't recall your role-PM and i am a bit work-swamped.

[Barkeep49]

Thomkal: henry (1711 9:35 pm) saldana (1758; 10:33 pm) ntn (1762, 10:35 pm)
Pass: EF (2052 1:45 pm) DT (2057, 1:45 pm) Jackal (2062, 1:46 PM) PB (2109 2:00)
EF: Pass (1986, 1:05 pm)

[ISiddiqui]

DT: Understandable.

I was with path, in wanting to NFG to make sure that his PM said what he thought it said, but since the wolves don't want NFG to talk anymore, I don't think I can wait around...

Vote Pass

[path12]

Dang. I'm this close to voting Pass, but there's a few things I'm just really unsure about right now.

I'm waiting. I'll be out until around 5PM Pacific. I'd rather hold my vote than get the wrong guy here.

[DaddyTorgo]

Dang. I'm this close to voting Pass, but there's a few things I'm just really unsure about right now.

I'm waiting. I'll be out until around 5PM Pacific. I'd rather hold my vote than get the wrong guy here.

anything i can help you with?

[DaddyTorgo]

i trust nfg. i think his initial wording can be attributed to excitement and also to rushing because maybe he knew he could be silenced again? and also to trying not to reveal too much initially about his powers.

[Poli]

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[Autumn]

Well, I guess we can't interrogate nfg further so all we can do is test it with a lynch, as much as his story sounds fishy.

<b>Vote Pass</b>

[DaddyTorgo]

if nfg is wrong you all can lynch me next, how's that?

[DaddyTorgo]

lol - bet hoops + barkeep never even considered that possibility - that'd be a funny writeup

[ISiddiqui]

LOL!!!

The members of CTU decide to lynch Jack Bauer... until they find out that he's unkillable, oh shit ;)

[EagleFan]

Af of 2148 (correct me if I missed anything):

Thom 3 (19%) - henry (1711), saldana (1758), ntn (1762)
EF 1 (6%) - Pass (1986)
Pass 7 (44%) - nfg (2033), EF (2052), DT (2057), Jackal (2062), PB (2109), IS (2143), Autumn (2148)


Yet to vote:
Autumn, Schmidty, BrianD, Thomkal, path12, king


Does nfg's vote not count?

[Poli]

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[EagleFan]

I ask about nfg as I don't see him in BK's count.

[hoopsguy]

The clock is having a very strong Day 4.

[DaddyTorgo]

his vote should count. he got it in before he was silenced.

[Schmidty]

Thomkal: henry (1711 9:35 pm) saldana (1758; 10:33 pm) ntn (1762, 10:35 pm)
Pass: EF (2052 1:45 pm) DT (2057, 1:45 pm) Jackal (2062, 1:46 PM) PB (2109 2:00)
EF: Pass (1986, 1:05 pm)

Sorry, I just got back from a very promising job interview. I hope I get it because I hate my current one.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I vote for Thomkal earlier. I'll check.

[DaddyTorgo]

schmidty - you should move to pass now, since nfg returned to tell us that pass was a wolfy mcwolferstein.

that's the summary of what's gone on.

[EagleFan]

Sorry, I just got back from a very promising job interview. I hope I get it because I hate my current one.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I vote for Thomkal earlier. I'll check.

I think it was before the last lynch.

I wish you the best with that job, hope it works out for you. You have a lot to catch up on, it's been a wild day/night.

[kingfc22]

Just trying to run some scenarios through my head and I can't get over these items:

1. My role blocks any action when I decide to discipline an individual. This includes powers. So how does nfg's power save him while disciplined?
2. If nfg is telling the truth, the wolves get 3 night kill attempts last night?
3. If nfg is telling the truth, why would the wolves silence him. It just makes pass look even more guilty.

[Schmidty]

schmidty - you should move to pass now, since nfg returned to tell us that pass was a wolfy mcwolferstein.

that's the summary of what's gone on.

Yeah, now that I'm to page 42, I'm seeing that.

Vote Pass

[DaddyTorgo]

Just trying to run some scenarios through my head and I can't get over these items:

1. My role blocks any action when I decide to discipline an individual. This includes powers. So how does nfg's power save him while disciplined?
2. If nfg is telling the truth, the wolves get 3 night kill attempts last night?
3. If nfg is telling the truth, why would the wolves silence him. It just makes pass look even more guilty.

regardless of that - i believe nfg, and others really should cast aside their questions and vote pass.

[Schmidty]

Ok, I hate to leave once again, but I am fricking hungry 9haven't eaten all day), so going to get some chinese and then hit a bucket of balls at the range. I should be back in like an hour and a half. Please don't me read five more pages. :)

[Barkeep49]

I ask about nfg as I don't see him in BK's count.
Correct.

[kingfc22]

regardless of that - i believe nfg, and others really should cast aside their questions and vote pass.

So you're basically saying don't use rational thought. Blindly follow me.

Sorry. Not good enough for me.

[EagleFan]

As of 2163:

Thom 3 (19%) - henry (1711), saldana (1758), ntn (1762)
EF 1 (6%) - Pass (1986)
Pass 8 (50%) - nfg (2033), EF (2052), DT (2057), Jackal (2062), PB (2109), IS (2143), Autumn (2148), Schmidty (2161)


Yet to vote:
BrianD, Thomkal, path12, king

[EagleFan]

Correct.

So nfg's vote does not count? Does that mean the percentages are based on 15 instead of 16?

[EagleFan]

So you're basically saying don't use rational thought. Blindly follow me.

Sorry. Not good enough for me.

Careful, I've been down that road. It's not pretty. :)

[Barkeep49]

So nfg's vote does not count? Does that mean the percentages are based on 15 instead of 16?
His vote doesn't count. As for the %, no comment.

[DaddyTorgo]

So you're basically saying don't use rational thought. Blindly follow me.

Sorry. Not good enough for me.

how about this then: "i have more complete information than you, but to reveal it would serve no purpose other than endangering other villagers."

is that good enough?

[DaddyTorgo]

or maybe the wolf kill attempt on me is separate from their killings of you guys

[Passacaglia]

I dont like pass...

VOTE PASS

You know what?

I don't think I like you either. :p

[Passacaglia]

Don't people find it a little convenient that the wolves are trying to discredit me right after I found out about EagleFan?

[Passacaglia]

DT, you say you trust NFG. Did you know that he would be able to protect both you and himself from attacks on the same night, while also finding out who the killer is? That just does not hold water with me. At what point did you trust him, and are you sure there's been no conversion since then?

[DaddyTorgo]

Don't people find it a little convenient that the wolves are trying to discredit me right after I found out about EagleFan?

LOL - or you're lying about EagleFan. Or you're telling the truth.

NFG has more trust in my book than you do.

It would take...something momentus to get me to move my vote at the moment. Like the wolf-carcass of NFG deposited in-thread. And I hope all the other CoT villagers feel the same way.

[Passacaglia]

LOL - or you're lying about EagleFan. Or you're telling the truth.



Yeah, it's probably one of those :p

[DaddyTorgo]

DT, you say you trust NFG. Did you know that he would be able to protect both you and himself from attacks on the same night, while also finding out who the killer is? That just does not hold water with me. At what point did you trust him, and are you sure there's been no conversion since then?

yes i knew that Pass.

I am not sure there has been no conversion, no. But like I said, until it's proven that there has been a conversion I choose to believe there hasn't. If we lynch you and you show up villager then I will strongly consider the possibility of conversion. But I won't lynch NFG instead of you to try to prove a conclusion, because I have more trust in him than I do in you.

[DaddyTorgo]

I see the complete picture of what is going on here. The wolves grabbed NFG again and silenced him and will now try to discredit him and turn the rest of the villagers away from the truth while he is silenced.

I won't let that happen. You're not going to beat us that way. You furry bastards are going down.

[DaddyTorgo]

sorry in #2177 "conclusion" should be "conversion"

[DaddyTorgo]

your power is also "used up" pass, and nfg still has the ability to provide me with protection

[Passacaglia]

yes i knew that Pass.

I am not sure there has been no conversion, no. But like I said, until it's proven that there has been a conversion I choose to believe there hasn't. If we lynch you and you show up villager then I will strongly consider the possibility of conversion. But I won't lynch NFG instead of you to try to prove a conclusion, because I have more trust in him than I do in you.

As for the first paragraph, I'm pretty sure you're lying. You probably don't want to say what's really making you believe him, and that's fine, but the role as NFG has laid it out is insane. It's insane enough that one person would be able to kill two people in one night -- that NEVER happens -- but then he has a role that, if he and the main character are attacked by the same person, he finds out who did it? Come on.

As for the second paragraph, I see what you're saying in theory -- that when it gets down to big showdowns like this, that my death will at least be meaningful. But I'll save patting myself on the back for that until after I'm dead, and in the meantime, I'm going to devote my time to making you and everyone else see that this is obviously a set-up. The really stupid thing about it from their part is that I already said that I can only use my ability twice per game -- DT himself can confirm that -- so I'm really just a vanilla villager right now. But notice that we are FAR removed from what we've been talking about last night and this morning.

[Autumn]

I'm with King that the story doesn't hold water. But I don't exactly have the standing right now to argue much. I'll follow DT and see where it goes. Either way we'll have our lynch options set out for us.

[Passacaglia]

your power is also "used up" pass, and nfg still has the ability to provide me with protection

Damn, beat me to it. Good luck with your 'protection' then! :)

[kingfc22]

I'm with King that the story doesn't hold water. But I don't exactly have the standing right now to argue much. I'll follow DT and see where it goes. Either way we'll have our lynch options set out for us.

I'm going to have to go this route as well since it seems no other options are out there.

Vote Pass

I'll be offline for about an hour and a half.

[The Jackal]

We must be close to triggering a lynch, it would be nice to find out something before the weekend starts.

[DaddyTorgo]

pass - i know it's counterintuitive, but if you are a villager, the best course of action for you is to not fight it.

we all know everyone wants to live till the end, but sometimes you have to serve the greater good.

[DaddyTorgo]

Damn, beat me to it. Good luck with your 'protection' then! :)

see if i had any doubts i think this pretty much removes them - it seems like you know something that nobody else does, which you could only know through being a wolf.

[EagleFan]

I have to say. It has been an interesting game but there is way too much based on what just one person says in this game. At this point I feel like a passenger to be honest.

Dare to question DT and get labeled a wolf as he can't be wrong again, or again, or again.

Sorry, that was just a venting post not really aimed at the current situation. I just think that DT's smugness is really rubbing some people the wrong way, yes you are coming off smug IMHO.

Not sure how many new players we have but most WW games aren't this cryptic and are actually based on what happens in thread and your interpretation of those things.

I know, not the right time and place, and all that, but I just felt like it needed said. Back to the task at hand, nailing a wolf.

[DaddyTorgo]

let's get a lynch before the weekend so you all can see what's really going on here

[Passacaglia]

pass - i know it's counterintuitive, but if you are a villager, the best course of action for you is to not fight it.

we all know everyone wants to live till the end, but sometimes you have to serve the greater good.

Yes it is. I thought I had a pretty good quip about that earlier -- basically, I'll save feeling all proud about dying later, but until then, I'm going to argue against lynching villagers.

[The Jackal]

I think some things are skewed in this game but the end result from following DT should give us a win, and if it doesn't .. we'll have been in trouble from the start.

[DaddyTorgo]

I have to say. It has been an interesting game but there is way too much based on what just one person says in this game. At this point I feel like a passenger to be honest.

Dare to question DT and get labeled a wolf as he can't be wrong again, or again, or again.

Sorry, that was just a venting post not really aimed at the current situation. I just think that DT's smugness is really rubbing some people the wrong way, yes you are coming off smug IMHO.

Not sure how many new players we have but most WW games aren't this cryptic and are actually based on what happens in thread and your interpretation of those things.

I know, not the right time and place, and all that, but I just felt like it needed said. Back to the task at hand, nailing a wolf.

i know. and i remember one game where alan was the same way because of his role that he was assigned and people got pissed at him.

all i can say is this: i am working with more information than the rest of the village has. in order to try to protect certain villagers (particularly in the absence of certain other roles) I am having to be less open than I normally would like, and having to be a bit smug and bullyish at times to try to preserve our advantages.

I do apologize if I came off smug. Some of it is stress at work too I'm sure. But some of it is just misunderstanding - take our :banghead: last night EF - that seems to have been mostly due to my poor writing up of my list and our miscommunication.

[DaddyTorgo]

how's this - if pass is good i will reveal everything and become a "passenger" while you all drive the train the rest of the game?

[Passacaglia]

how's this - if pass is good i will reveal everything and become a "passenger" while you all drive the train the rest of the game?

That works for me. Go ahead.

[Passacaglia]

Just kidding -- I'm actually fine with you keeping things secretive -- I already suspected you still are regarding NFG, and I said that's fine. I'm fine with you saying you have your reasons to trust him, but you really need to think about conversion and the fact that things have turned around completely on me just as I had really given us a huge advantage.

[The Jackal]

You know, I was pretty sure most of what happened late last night was because EF misunderstood your list and it blew out of proportion, but instead of assuming things I just let you two .. discuss.. it. :)

[DaddyTorgo]

Just kidding -- I'm actually fine with you keeping things secretive -- I already suspected you still are regarding NFG, and I said that's fine. I'm fine with you saying you have your reasons to trust him, but you really need to think about conversion and the fact that things have turned around completely on me just as I had really given us a huge advantage.

it is on my mind. i have thought about it.

however you have not been seer-scanned to date (seer and i have an established code in-thread to indicate results on all players), and thus your information is taken with a massive grain of salt.

whereas nfg is confirmed-good.

even if we lynch you and we're incorrect (because of a conversion) we are still able to add saldana to the CoT at that point, as well as lynch EagleFan. So it nets out being a 1:1 trade, plus we know NFG is converted at that point, so it becomes 2:1 in favor of the village.

[DaddyTorgo]

i should add "2:1 in favor of the village plus we add villager to the CoT"

[The Jackal]

Remind me why pass being good means we lynch EF?

[The Jackal]

Right, I remember, the soothsayer things. That seems like so long ago.

[The Jackal]

*thing

[DaddyTorgo]

because pass says EF is a wolf.

(well okay, pass said he soothsayered a statement of EF and then immediately after getting the results did a 2-word "vote eaglefan" post)

[DaddyTorgo]

lol...twists and turns in this game for sure.

i acknowledge that. however every twist and turn is increasing my information and making it that much harder for the wolves to hide.

[The Jackal]

Sorry, it's becoming increasingly difficult to keep all the facts and reveals of information in order, I probably should be keeping a text file or something.

[Passacaglia]

it is on my mind. i have thought about it.

however you have not been seer-scanned to date (seer and i have an established code in-thread to indicate results on all players), and thus your information is taken with a massive grain of salt.

whereas nfg is confirmed-good.

even if we lynch you and we're incorrect (because of a conversion) we are still able to add saldana to the CoT at that point, as well as lynch EagleFan. So it nets out being a 1:1 trade, plus we know NFG is converted at that point, so it becomes 2:1 in favor of the village.

This sounds like you're already apologizing for lynching a villegar.
"Oh, sorry we killed you, Passacaglia, but you see, NFG was confirmed good!"
Might as well just get it right the first time.

[The Jackal]

DT, let me ask you something.

If it so happens that I'm not able to convince people of my innocence in the coming days / I haven't been scanned, I was thinking of just sacrificing my ability. I feel like using it might distract the village whereas proving my innocence would perhaps point it in the right direction.

[ISiddiqui]

Right, I remember, the soothsayer things. That seems like so long ago.

LOL. The first day seems like forever ago to me. Is it always like this in WW games? :D

[The Jackal]

LOL. The first day seems like forever ago to me. Is it always like this in WW games? :D

Depends on what kind of game it is. Sometimes there are runaways because of 100% believed evidence, and then there's games like this where no one seems to believe anything. For good reason, too.

[Passacaglia]

Sorry, it's becoming increasingly difficult to keep all the facts and reveals of information in order, I probably should be keeping a text file or something.

hahaha yeah -- nothing organizes data like a text file!

[The Jackal]

hahaha yeah -- nothing organizes data like a text file!

It helps me process. I don't need spreadsheets clogging information up.

[The Jackal]

You should see the text edit files that got produced during Labyrinth...

[DaddyTorgo]

DT, let me ask you something.

If it so happens that I'm not able to convince people of my innocence in the coming days / I haven't been scanned, I was thinking of just sacrificing my ability. I feel like using it might distract the village whereas proving my innocence would perhaps point it in the right direction.

i can see the wisdom in that. it's certainly the "right" play to make going by the book, although it's difficult. it depends I guess on where you are as far as seer-scan priority when we get to that point.

if you made that play you'd certainly gain major "WW karma", but I don't think I'd necessarily ask you to make it. i wouldn't want that responsibility or level of micro-management.

[DaddyTorgo]

This sounds like you're already apologizing for lynching a villegar.
"Oh, sorry we killed you, Passacaglia, but you see, NFG was confirmed good!"
Might as well just get it right the first time.

not at all. just laying out the full picture

[DaddyTorgo]

i wonder if we'll get the lynch in on Pass before the weekend or if we have to listen to a full weekend of him squirming in the wolf-trap.

[DaddyTorgo]

okay anyways - i'm leaving work. might be on my phone but it takes longer to respond on there, so nowhere near as many posts from me.

[Autumn]

Jackal, I don't know what your ability is but it's not like you're at the end of your game here. I don't think your tops on anybody's suspect list other than mine, but you are on the suspect list so seems like you could hang on and hope to get scanned instead, if your ability would be better used later.

The last thing we need is everybody wasting their abilities at this point.

[The Jackal]

Jackal, I don't know what your ability is but it's not like you're at the end of your game here. I don't think your tops on anybody's suspect list other than mine, but you are on the suspect list so seems like you could hang on and hope to get scanned instead, if your ability would be better used later.

The last thing we need is everybody wasting their abilities at this point.

It was definitely a question for the future, and I hope I never have to make the decision.

[Passacaglia]

i wonder if we'll get the lynch in on Pass before the weekend or if we have to listen to a full weekend of him squirming in the wolf-trap.

You guys had better hope you get the whole weekend to think about this more clearly!

[Passacaglia]

Seriously, the set-up here is pretty obvious -- it should be easy to spot.

[Passacaglia]

I guess it's too late to get DT on this now, but I'm going to guess that NFG knew he was trusted by DT, and that's why he was the one to point the finger at me. Also, why did EF not get any traction in the votes after I pointed him out? Probably cuz a good portion of them are wolves.

[The Jackal]

Does our government really employ "soothsayers", btw? ;)

[Barkeep49]

The game will be paused tonight no earlier than 10 and no later than 12. The wiggle room is based on:
A. How tired I get
B. How likely there is to be an action

Just wanted to put that out there as I've seen some confusion about it.

[The Jackal]

FYI I'll be gone from 7:00ish until I don't really know when this evening.

[Alan T]

Sorry, it's becoming increasingly difficult to keep all the facts and reveals of information in order, I probably should be keeping a text file or something.


I've been keeping a text file of all important notes of the game as they pertain to me.

[Thomkal]

Okay I'm back for about a half hour and see I have a lot to catch up on, not sure I'll get to the end before I have to go again. So bear with me if there's any questions you had for me while I was gone.

[Barkeep49]

I will just point out that quoting GM messages to you verbatim is not allowed.

[Poli]

I will just point out that quoting GM messages to you verbatim is not allowed.

If you insist...

You are the clock. As the clock your role is to post menacing/ominous beeps/ticks during the game. This should be done to provide extra tension and/or allow for commercial breaks.

!!

[Poli]

Beep, beep, beep, beep...

[Thomkal]

okay I've caught up and I can safely say this is one of the craziest days in WW history. I thought we were on to something when Pass used his soothsayer power on EagleFan. That reveal then from nfg about Pass was shocking and his subsequent lock up by the FBI was confusing. Not sure which one to believe at this point, but after not trusting Danny's info yesterday, I'm not going to make that mistake twice. So I will trust that DT has some info about nfg and others that makes him believe his reveal and....

vote passacaglia

I wil now be away from the computer again for about an hour or so.

[EagleFan]

Beep, beep, beep, beep...

bravo!!!

[Barkeep49]

Lynch with post 2229.

[Barkeep49]

It was a day false starts followed by many a stop. In the end Jack takes charge. He takes his gun out, aims, and shoots Pass in the head. People are stunned. But a search reveals that this was the right action to take. As Jonas Hodges, he was most definitely aiding the Conspiracy.

Welcome to the Conspiracy. As Jonas Hodges, twice during the game you may imprison a player for eight hours. While a player is in prison they will not be able to take an actions, including voting or PM'ing.

Note that Jack's involvement is moderator color only.

Final vote tally:
Thomkal: henry (1711 9:35 pm) saldana (1758; 10:33 pm) ntn (1762, 10:35 pm)
Pass: EF (2052 1:45 pm) DT (2057, 1:45 pm) Jackal (2062, 1:46 PM) PB: (2109 2:00) Isidiqui (2143 2:23 pm) Autumn (2148 2:38 pm) Schmidty (2161 2:58 pm) king (2184 3:36 pm) thomkal (2229 5:17 pm)
EF: Pass (1986, 1:05 pm)

[ISiddiqui]

Alright!! That's the second wolf we got!

[ISiddiqui]

Btw, like Jack's involvement as well :D.

Especially as he was the push for the lynching.

[The Jackal]

Good stuff.

[EagleFan]

Two down.

[Autumn]

Nice, well despite the confusion I'm glad we listened. Guess that clears up the prison thing.

[Passacaglia]

I *told* you! Oh, wait.

[Autumn]

I'll probably be out for a while, time to put the kids to bed. I think we've got a lot to go on now but probably better to see how things play out before we say too much.

[ntndeacon]

does that mean we will get nfg out early. I am making an assumption it was Pass that confined him.

[DaddyTorgo]

awesome! great way to head into the weekend!!

thanks for trusting me everyone.

of note - this should call into question Pass' clearing of Saldana (he may have been lying to try to slip a wolf into the CoT or he may have been telling the truth to try to buy trust). It also calls EagleFan into question for the same reasons.

Obviously Occam's Razor would say that Saldana is evil and EagleFan is good, but Pass is a crafty player and I could see him reversing that. We'll have to see.

[DaddyTorgo]

wait - does this mess up henry's list and call him into question? *forgetting*

[kingfc22]

Sweet. Still not liking how I have to use DT for any and all actions, but we got the result none the less

[path12]

wait - does this mess up henry's list and call him into question? *forgetting*

I don't think Pass was one of the Telle voters but I'd have to check to be sure. Good call with nfg.

[path12]

It is time to reveal.

I am Renee Walker an FBI agent. My power gives me the ability to learn about the voters the first time I vote to lynch a villager. In addition if I cast the last vote that causes the deadline to learn the name of a someone who voted with me. The information that I'm given is how many members of the conspiracy voted with me. In this case there were no members of the conspiracy who voted with me.

Here was the vote totals from the death of Telle.

Telle: path (1502, 4:49 pm) saldana (1515 6:28 pm) Purdue (1560, 7:30 PM) nfg (1632 8:36 pm) ntn (1639 8:39 pm) henry (1653 8:43 pm)
nfg
Jackal: Thomakl (1411, 2:24 PM) Pass (1425 2:57 pm) iSidiqui (1465 3:52 pm)
Danny: Autumn (1450, 3:21 PM)

Therefore, I'm convinced Thomkal, Pass, Isidiqui and Autumn are our conspirators.

VOTE Thomkal

Nope, Pass was on Jackal.

[kingfc22]

If we are to believe henry:

These are the remaining suspects:
3. TheJackal
7. Autumn
8. Schmidty
14. ISiddiqui
19. Kingfc22 - I know i'm good
20. Thomkal
24. eaglefan

High trust:
15. DaddyTorgo - CTU Special Agent Jack Bauer
12. BrianD - Recovering from torture
16. ntndeacon
13. nfg22

Mid to High:
23. henry296

Mid Trust with henry's info:
10. PurdueBrad - clear
17. Saldana - clear
22. path12 - clear


wait - does this mess up henry's list and call him into question? *forgetting*

Nope. Henry is still good.

[DaddyTorgo]

Sweet. Still not liking how I have to use DT for any and all actions, but we got the result none the less

you don't have to use me...i'm just not fully disclosing all the nitty gritty. but that's good - it's keeping our seer hidden. i mean i could assume the wolves know who it is since they had CR looking no doubt, but i don't want to assume that. i've already told you all that they've told me...i'm just not telling you all all the details of everything in order to keep them hidden and keep all your powers hidden.

the more people inside the CoT that i reveal are NOT the seer the smaller the wolves' pool of choices is. so i'm trying to keep everyone's powers obscured because of that.

i didn't jump down your throat for what you did to nfg, did i? i would have told you not to if we had PM's still obviously...but it's not like you killed a member of the CoT. no harm, no foul.

[DaddyTorgo]

thanks for looking at that guys - i've got a tiny bit of a headache growing.

i'm going to steal that list and modify it according to what i know King.

[kingfc22]

thanks for looking at that guys - i've got a tiny bit of a headache growing.

i'm going to steal that list and modify it according to what i know King.

Do what you got to do Jack.

Two in a row ain't bad. :cool:

[saldana]

wow..this real time thing is the most off the hook mechanic ever...i thought i would finally be able to be in the thread for the lynch, and i still missed it.

as far as my soothed clear, i though path was the soothsayer, not pass?

i have not been able to pay nearly enough attention to this game...way too many things are changing way too fast.

[DaddyTorgo]

No Verified Trust
TheJackal
Autumn
ISiddiqui
Thomkal

Questionable due to Passacaglia
eaglefan (pass claimed he was evil)
saldana (pass claimed he was good)

Mid-Trust (thru actions, or etc)
kingfc22 (his action resulted in no harm to nfg)
path12



High trust:
DaddyTorgo - CTU Special Agent Jack Bauer
BrianD
ntndeacon (only by action, but he did kill a wolf)
nfg22
PurdueBrad
henry296
Schmidty

[DaddyTorgo]

wow..this real time thing is the most off the hook mechanic ever...i thought i would finally be able to be in the thread for the lynch, and i still missed it.

as far as my soothed clear, i though path was the soothsayer, not pass?

i have not been able to pay nearly enough attention to this game...way too many things are changing way too fast.

Nope - Pass "claimed" to be the soothsayer. Path claims to be something else.

[DaddyTorgo]

No Verified Trust
TheJackal
Autumn
ISiddiqui
Thomkal

Questionable due to Passacaglia
eaglefan (pass claimed he was evil)
saldana (pass claimed he was good)

Mid-Trust (thru actions, or etc)
kingfc22 (his action resulted in no harm to nfg)
path12



High trust:
DaddyTorgo - CTU Special Agent Jack Bauer
BrianD
ntndeacon (only by action, but he did kill a wolf)
nfg22
PurdueBrad
henry296
Schmidty

Couple notes about this: This list DOES NOT take Henry's list into account despite the fact that he is high-trust. To take Henry's list into account COMBINED with my list, disregard Saldana and Path12 as potential wolves.

[path12]

Couple notes about this: This list DOES NOT take Henry's list into account despite the fact that he is high-trust. To take Henry's list into account COMBINED with my list, disregard Saldana and Path12 as potential wolves.

Wouldn't you assume that since Pass claimed that EagleFan was bad that EagleFan is in fact good instead?

I know it's not 100%, but it's way above 75% in my book.