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Danny
06-22-2012, 02:31 AM
In the day 3 voting, at the end. I tried to switch back to dubb. I didn't know BK's cutoff was x:59. And not that it mattered anyway. At the time I was more interested in nailing dubb or going after people I thought were guilty (which included hoops)

I'm very confident you are not an original starting spawn. I also dont think you've been mutated to this point.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 02:42 AM
That's why we let you back in, man. :)

Danny
06-22-2012, 02:45 AM
Day 4 Voting:

2094: Julio Votes Hoops (1)
2096: Crimson votes Darth (1)
2134: Crimson unvotes Darth (0) votes Chubby (1)
2250: Simbo votes CrimsonFox (1)
2248: Abe votes Packer / Danny2 (1)
2252: Shiggles votes Zinto (1)
2295: Abe unvotes Packer / Danny2 (0)
2297: Abe votes Chubby (2)
2329: Chubby votes Julio (1)
2330: Chubby unvotes Julio (0) votes Crimson (2)
2336: Shiggles unvotes Zinto (0) votes Simbo (1)
2356: Julio votes Zinto (1)
2357: Saldana votes Chubby (3)
2358: LSG votes Simbo (2)
2361: Chief votes Simbo (3)
2380: Chubby unvotes CF (1) votes Zinto (2)
2413: Julio unvotes Zinto (1) votes Simbo (4)
2422: Brit votes Chubby (4)
2432: Chubby unvotes Zinto (0) votes Simbo (5)
2439: GE votes Simbo (6)
2440: Simbo unvotes CF (0) votes Chubby (5)
2443: Darth votes Simbo (7)
2445: Jag votes Simbo (8)

Danny
06-22-2012, 02:45 AM
I'll book it right now, Zinto is a spawn

Danny
06-22-2012, 02:50 AM
Simbo (8): Shiggles (2336), LSG (2358), Chief (2361), Julio (2413), Chubby (2432), GE (2439), Darth (2443), JAG (2445)

Chubby (5): Crimson (2134), Abe (2297), Saldana (2357), Brit (2422), Simbo (2440)

No vote: Zinto, Hoops and ???

Danny
06-22-2012, 02:51 AM
Day 4

Simbo (8): Shiggles (2336), LSG (2358), Chief (2361), Julio (2413), Chubby (2432), GE (2439), Darth (2443), JAG (2445)

Chubby (5): Crimson (2134), Abe (2297), Saldana (2357), Brit (2422), Simbo (2440)

No vote: Zinto, Hoops and ???

Danny
06-22-2012, 02:52 AM
Votes by Shiggles, LSG and Chief look good to me. Votes that came later could be considered more iffy as they may be trust buying votes.

Real bad vote by Britrock

Danny
06-22-2012, 02:53 AM
I find it very interesting that Simbo never voted for Zinto all day. There was a couple times Zinto went up to two votes and a third by Simbo would have really made him a solidate candidate against Simbo.

As I said, looking at everything from all days, ZInto is a spawn

Danny
06-22-2012, 02:54 AM
And my gut goes along with that as well. Zinto plays much tigther and more of a follower as a wolf, as he has done this game

Danny
06-22-2012, 02:55 AM
I have strong trust in Jag, Saldana, Crimson, Shiggles and Chief as not being starting spawn. LSG's vote yesterday also gives her a big plus.

Danny
06-22-2012, 02:56 AM
I also don;t think Darth is a spawn based on gut feel largely stemming from him not even getting a vote in on day 2 or 3.

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:02 AM
I also dont think Chubby is a starting spawn. Too risky for spawn to fake work on a project where they had 2 of the 3 people that could be responsible. And Chubby had a big day 2 vote on Simbo

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:03 AM
I also don't think Julio is a starting spawn. He had two big votes on Simbo and I get an ok vibe from him as well.

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:05 AM
So the main grouping where I would bet include both other spawn are Zinto, Abe, Brit and Schmidty / GE.

My gut feels ok on Abe, so I'd say it's likely two of Zinto, Brit and Schmidty / GE. I would put my money on Zinto and Brit right now.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:06 AM
I also dont think Chubby is a starting spawn. Too risky for spawn to fake work on a project where they had 2 of the 3 people that could be responsible. And Chubby had a big day 2 vote on Simbo

but he moved that vote later. Chubby doesn't look HORRIBLE but I don't think he's completely clear. Do you think there is ANY chance though that we were wolf-wolf between him and simbo?

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:09 AM
My analysis of Zinto is much less analytical. He hasn't posted. He hasn't responded. I've said hi to him and he hasn't responded. Even my crack about him being a spawn got nothing.

I should have voted him yesterday instead of Chubby really. But there were really just SO many people that I've felt weird vibes about and wanted to see what voting them would do.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:10 AM
Yeah I think Brit is a good chance at bein spawn too. I feel really really good about Abe. Abe has done a lot of work. Then again as a wolf that's what I'd do too. But right now I would say Abe is good. (unless he gets sp0wned tonight or already WAS sp0wned and doesn't know it).

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:11 AM
My analysis of Zinto is much less analytical. He hasn't posted. He hasn't responded. I've said hi to him and he hasn't responded. Even my crack about him being a spawn got nothing.

I should have voted him yesterday instead of Chubby really. But there were really just SO many people that I've felt weird vibes about and wanted to see what voting them would do.

Dont get me wrong, I posted being suspect of Zinto on day 2 and my gut tells me he is bad also, but the objective evidence also supports that gut feeling.

The chubby thing is not the votes. It's that last night both Chubby and Simbo were assigned to work on the area. It seems unlikely the spawn would FAKE work on a location in which they have TWO of the THREE people who could have faked it

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:12 AM
It could very well be Schmidty / GE too, who the hell knows about him

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:12 AM
But I'm definitely voting Zinto and Brit as a backup

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:13 AM
I am definitely using a mix of gut and evidence here. I went too far into objective measures last game, but I am at my best when I use both

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:14 AM
Me voting Simbo all three days was pure gut ;)

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:19 AM
But yeah I would think that if the simbo-chubby thing were wolf wolf, that a different candidate would have emerged somewhere along the line.

Looking at the people that followed me onto chubby:
Abe (2297), Saldana (2357), Brit (2422), Simbo (2440)

Abe's vote 2-0 Chubby
Saldana (3-2-1-1 Chubby)
Brit 4-4-1-1 bringing Chubby BACK into a tie with Simbo

Brit's vote looks horrible

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:22 AM
I also don;t think Darth is a spawn based on gut feel largely stemming from him not even getting a vote in on day 2 or 3.

I don't think Darth not voting on any day is evidence that he is or isn't a spawn or a villager.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:22 AM
Dont get me wrong, I posted being suspect of Zinto on day 2 and my gut tells me he is bad also, but the objective evidence also supports that gut feeling.

The chubby thing is not the votes. It's that last night both Chubby and Simbo were assigned to work on the area. It seems unlikely the spawn would FAKE work on a location in which they have TWO of the THREE people who could have faked it

I see what you mean. I agree they would not knowingly plan this. If it happened, it was a "mix-up"

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:23 AM
But the voting on chubby coupled with this does suggest that Chubby is good

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:23 AM
I know, its mostly gut.

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:24 AM
But the voting on chubby coupled with this does suggest that Chubby is good

Yeah

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:24 AM
I know, its mostly gut.

well seeing as you've already had them splattered across the pavement, you would know a lot about guts ;)

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:25 AM
lol, true. THat post was referring to dv since it wasnt clear

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:25 AM
are there cunnings in this game?

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:26 AM
lol, true. THat post was referring to dv since it wasnt clear

i assumed. And we all know how great your guts on DV are after last game, right :)

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:27 AM
Yeah, his nickname is stone cold vilus

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:29 AM
And the most important point of course is that you get to keep your post count up.

Danny
06-22-2012, 03:32 AM
Oh definitely. Too bad autumn got killed we would be headed for top 5 for sure

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:53 AM
Any place requiring power will lose functionality when converted to the ship before liftoff. The power on the ship is an "all or nothing" situation. Once the 4 required power facilities are present on the ship anything requiring power will work again. The following places remain functional on the ship after conversion but before liftoff:
Officers Offices
Crew Quarters
Warehouses 1-5

BK, modification to my question so it's clear:

If we convert 4 power facilities, can we use CONVERTED buildings that require power on the ship prior to liftoff?


So okay rewrapping my head around this.
So I think that things on the planet are good and work as long as their powersupply work. And in the ship the OO, CQ, and WHs work without power. And everything else we convert onto the ship has to have all 4 power facilities converted and then they will work. I can't remember if JAG's followup question was answered as I looked and saw no response. I think yes?

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:58 AM
Things improve a little as well when Hoops works on the Power Facility and also reroutes some power.

Locations

Building B:
Power Facilities DAMAGED; 3 Cycles to repair
Power Facility 1 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building A
Power Facility 2 2 cycles required for conversion
OFFLINE
Power Facility 3 5 cycles required for conversion
OFFLINE
Power Facility 4 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building D
Power Facility 5 5 cycles required for conversion
Unused

Water Plant UNPOWERED 7 cycles required for conversion
Producing enough water for all Survivors each day

Building C:
Security HQ UNPOWERED 2 cycles required for conversion

Armory UNPOWERED 4 cycles required for conversion
18 phasers accounted for

Brig No power; Inaccessible 4 cycles required for conversion
No crew being held

Building D:

Medical Facilities Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion

Scientists’ Lab Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion
2 Spawn Detected


Crew Quarters Damaged; 9 sleeping berths; 11 cycles to repair Converted



Okay so hoops DID reroute power back. Cool.
Question (for anyone). If the power facilities are still damaged, why is it that building D is operational? And why is facility 3 offline?

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 03:59 AM
And there are 2 spawn detected. This was before simbo died. So...scientists and abe, please fill us in. Does that thing tell us how many total full spawn there are? All evil including spawnlings?

Danny
06-22-2012, 04:01 AM
wow missed that

Danny
06-22-2012, 04:02 AM
FWIW, even with the risk of death I think Saldana should bring in Zinto. We have had enough success where I believe losing a doctor is worth making sure we get a spawn today. If we catch another spawn we really really ratchet up the heat on them.

Danny
06-22-2012, 04:03 AM
Hell, bring in Zinto and Britrock with our two doctors. Could be game over maybe

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 04:06 AM
Well something I wonder. Is it possible for people to get infected by various spawn on the planet that aren't players? I mean when we started I think the story is that everyone was normal and people "got infected" to start things.
Is that possible or not within the scope of this game.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 04:08 AM
wow missed that

yup just saw it. I am surprised that there are only 2 spawn. That's why I'm thinking that is MAIN spawn and not infected.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 04:11 AM
Hell, bring in Zinto and Britrock with our two doctors. Could be game over maybe

Don't know. Not if there are infected out there who haven't spawned that we haven't cured yet.

Are there evil people who aren't full spawn that ARE evil and know they are evil and doing evil things?

JAG
06-22-2012, 04:27 AM
Zinto was one I was thinking of even before I read what happened last night (hope everything's ok with your family). Other people I don't want to discuss until post-night deadline. Nice result though, pretty happy I was able to help make the case for him and that we scanned the survivor between him and hoops.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 04:34 AM
This is a curious spawn ability.

Psionic Connection May one time trigger a power which allows all spawns to know the identities of all other spawns. If not a member of the Spawn Council, may send messages, through the GM, to the Spawn Council.

and this:

Other Spawn
May launch a regular attack (see Attack below). These Spawn do not know any other Spawn, though the Spawn Queen may choose to make herself known to other Spawn.


So spawn don't know each other? And I guess Spawn overlord and Spawn queen do know all the bad guys. Spawn council sounds like spawn that can PM each other and any outside of that 3-spawn circle are on their own and don't know who are spawn.

JAG
06-22-2012, 04:35 AM
The 3 oldest spawn know each other because they're on the council together.

JAG
06-22-2012, 04:45 AM
So we know there were 3 spawn yesterday when we voted Simbo out and there are currently 2. With all the mutation stuff they have available to them, I wouldn't think they'd start with more than 3, right? So what did they do Night 1? It looks like nothing. Which probably means:

Spawn Overlord
There is currently no Spawn Overlord. The Spawn may choose to aid in reforming the Spawn Overlord instead of performing any other action (public or private) during a cycle. If the Spawn Overlord is reformed, the Spawn will receive certain advantages.

If we get proof that the Overlord was formed, it would have to have been done on Night 1 because that's the only night where there was no overt spawn activity. If the spawn didn't do any private / public action that cycle, that means that people that performed public actions that night are NOT spawn, which includes a number of people who we already suspect were not starting spawn (including Autumn / Danny v1 / dubb (at the time) among the deceased and Crimson / Danny v2 / Chief Rum among the living).

Chubby
06-22-2012, 04:45 AM
Off to work. I'm looking at zinto, brit and abe tomorrow for lynch

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 05:09 AM
The 3 oldest spawn know each other because they're on the council together.

and that means PMs? It doesn't say but I assume.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 05:10 AM
Off to work. I'm looking at zinto, brit and abe tomorrow for lynch

heigh ho, heigh ho...

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 05:18 AM
JAG, I thought the first night activity was doing a spawnling attack on dubb.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 05:20 AM
but the overlord thing sounds very logical. I was searching for a spawn ability that would increase chances of infecting/killing someone if they studied them on multiple nights but could find none. I remember a survivor ability that did that. Oh yeah Julio's.

JAG
06-22-2012, 05:23 AM
and that means PMs? It doesn't say but I assume.

I don't know for sure, I thought somewhere I read they could PM. The fact that they coordinated attacks on three separate buildings last night suggests they are able to communicate though.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 05:31 AM
and there most definitely seems to be vote collaboration.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 05:44 AM
So anyway Jag, I do think working on power tonight is our best option. After that I don't know. Don't even know if DV will be on before the night deadline.

Danny
06-22-2012, 05:45 AM
Night deadline is 6am pacific? If so, no chance he is here before then

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 05:46 AM
5 am PST

Danny
06-22-2012, 05:48 AM
ok then from no chance to no way in hell is there a chance

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 05:48 AM
Someone want to help me get the 3 cycles to repair the power facilities? Again, order won't go in for another 5-6 hours but giving the night crew a chance to chime in here.

Guard actions - would hate to get this back and operational only to lose it to an attack again. I know you have lots of potential targets; just throwing this particular facility out there/


so this was hoops at 10:23 PM

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 05:49 AM
Danny/Jag, can you find instances of DV doing all the work he said he was going to do and/or places where he didn't do any at all?

Danny
06-22-2012, 05:50 AM
I haven't done a good job keeping up with that side of things.

JAG
06-22-2012, 06:04 AM
There's no evidence anyone else has not done what they've said to this point I believe.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 06:47 AM
hoops!

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 06:47 AM
so we going to submit?

hoopsguy
06-22-2012, 06:50 AM
Day 4

Simbo (8): Shiggles (2336), LSG (2358), Chief (2361), Julio (2413), Chubby (2432), GE (2439), Darth (2443), JAG (2445)

Chubby (5): Crimson (2134), Abe (2297), Saldana (2357), Brit (2422), Simbo (2440)

No vote: Zinto, Hoops and ???

Hmm, I had a vote in there for Simbo before I left last night.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 06:51 AM
hoops. we have 10 minutes. Are we going to fix the power facilities?

hoopsguy
06-22-2012, 06:54 AM
Yes, lets do it.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 06:55 AM
doing it!

hoopsguy
06-22-2012, 06:57 AM
Sorry, would have posted on this a little faster but didn't expect quite so many posts over the last 5-6 hours :)

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 06:58 AM
whew! in the nick of time. Mine is sent.

JAG
06-22-2012, 07:02 AM
We're somewhat screwed without the fence because I think a number of actions take us outside of buildings which means we will practically average a mutation a day (estimating, Barkeep is the expert statistician guy). Which means we need to focus a huge amount of our efforts going forward in getting stuff converted and lifting off as quickly as we can.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 07:06 AM
well I think we can spend the day converting stuff with slaves and people. I hope is training a new engineer or something. And I hope to God that the scientists can come up with something that quickens the pace of repair and conversion.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 07:09 AM
I hope ABE is training, that is

JAG
06-22-2012, 07:37 AM
If we succeed in our research, we won't actually need engineers as much.

Also, I know voting evidence implicates Britrock to a degree, but he's been outwardly very helpful to us, so I would tap the breaks a bit on him and keep an open mind.

saldana
06-22-2012, 07:55 AM
nice analysis Danny2...i will take Zinto today, and if i die, i will chalk it up as taking one for the team

JAG
06-22-2012, 07:56 AM
Also, I request people not take action without giving us a chance to think about the night results first.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 07:57 AM
well we distrust zinto more than britrock. Should you take brit instead and we lynch zinto?

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 07:58 AM
If we succeed in our research, we won't actually need engineers as much.

Also, I know voting evidence implicates Britrock to a degree, but he's been outwardly very helpful to us, so I would tap the breaks a bit on him and keep an open mind.
Thought about this a couple days ago. Really if I were a wolf I'd completely do everything to help the village during the day and just destroy it at night.

britrock88
06-22-2012, 07:59 AM
Also, I know voting evidence implicates Britrock to a degree, but he's been outwardly very helpful to us, so I would tap the breaks a bit on him and keep an open mind.

This. Please. We need more research to get off this forsaken planet.

At the same time, I have to face the facts and understand that I'm a terrible WW voter.

1) I was in a rush to get a vote in before I left until after deadline.
2) There was no vote count at that point.
3) I stated that I was more suspicious of Simbo than I was of Chubby.
4) I stated that I was voting Chubby because Simbo/Chubby might provide useful information to the crew with the pressure of a two-man race.
5) I'm pretty sure I stated that I assumed/expected/hoped we finished off Simbo.

Maybe I'll just disappear around deadline and stop voting altogether... it never does any good.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 08:01 AM
hoops, where do you think we should go next with repairs/conversion?

Granted we may be facing extra damage now. Should we get busy converting the power facilities? We can convert the one that was powering the fence.

hoopsguy
06-22-2012, 08:01 AM
K, did repair power (supervise Darth, for whatever that is worth on repairs) and asked to re-route power to security if that is an option as well.

Based on sabotage theory (sure hope that the other people followed their orders as well to get that number) - VOTE SIMBO

Here was my vote. If it did not count per not specifying "execute" then I understand ... frazzled day with really limited availability and I didn't get the wording right. But I clearly did want to vote Simbo, and had raised the question earlier about returning focus to the "sabotage work" issue a couple of hours before this post.

britrock88
06-22-2012, 08:01 AM
Thought about this a couple days ago. Really if I were a wolf I'd completely do everything to help the village during the day and just destroy it at night.

Augh. Everything lines up. Just remember that I've played, I think, 4 WW games now. And no matter what I do, villager or wolf, I'm always the #2 suspect or worse by day 5.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 08:04 AM
Here was my vote. If it did not count per not specifying "execute" then I understand ... frazzled day with really limited availability and I didn't get the wording right. But I clearly did want to vote Simbo, and had raised the question earlier about returning focus to the "sabotage work" issue a couple of hours before this post.

half of us have been saying "VOTE" instead of execute so I think it was just missed because it wasn't on its own line.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 08:05 AM
Augh. Everything lines up. Just remember that I've played, I think, 4 WW games now. And no matter what I do, villager or wolf, I'm always the #2 suspect or worse by day 5.


yeah I think he's worth checking out as being guilty after this reaction.

Danny
06-22-2012, 08:07 AM
I just missed it hoops, I think it counted, my vote left out execute also

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 08:14 AM
Excited to see what happens this morning before I leave for a weekend getaway with my fiancee - I'll likely be unavailable most of the day, but I will try and put my vote in as close to time for me to leave as possible. It is unknown whether or not I will be available to do stuff later today.

So, if I am needed for an action, please have the boss man submit the instruction for me.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 08:14 AM
It seems pretty likely my vote will go to Zinto today based on catching up from last nights action.

hoopsguy
06-22-2012, 08:14 AM
hoops, where do you think we should go next with repairs/conversion?

Granted we may be facing extra damage now. Should we get busy converting the power facilities? We can convert the one that was powering the fence.

Yeah, I think lift-off remains pretty much job #1 at this point. We know we need to convert four of the power facilities to accomplish that. So unless people feel strongly about converting something else first - seeing as how no power = disabling buildings/services - I think we have to bite the bullet and get buildings converted as quickly as we possibly can.

hoopsguy
06-22-2012, 08:15 AM
Augh. Everything lines up. Just remember that I've played, I think, 4 WW games now. And no matter what I do, villager or wolf, I'm always the #2 suspect or worse by day 5.

I wish I made it to day 5 four games in a row :)

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 08:18 AM
I wish I made it to day 5 four games in a row :)


yeah I was gonna say that that's really good to make it that long that many times :)

saldana
06-22-2012, 08:18 AM
I wish I made it to day 5 four games in a row :)

i dont want to hear it...i have been out for a while, but am willing to wager that i am still the champion

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 08:20 AM
We need to make sure we keep the medical facilities intact today until we get the two scans in, and probably leave the science lab running too, so we can try and get the medium level science thing done.

hoopsguy
06-22-2012, 08:21 AM
i dont want to hear it...i have been out for a while, but am willing to wager that i am still the champion

You were metronome consistent about when you got whacked ... I normally have a lot more variance (lots of N1/D2 deaths) but I think anyone would be jealous of consistent D5 and beyond showings.

JAG
06-22-2012, 08:23 AM
well we distrust zinto more than britrock. Should you take brit instead and we lynch zinto?

I was thinking along those lines, just string Zinto up and take a couple shots with our doctors against other suspects. Of course that depends on us actually having a couple doctors and a facility to use.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 08:36 AM
metronome consistent hehehehe

Barkeep49
06-22-2012, 08:38 AM
Here was my vote. If it did not count per not specifying "execute" then I understand ... frazzled day with really limited availability and I didn't get the wording right. But I clearly did want to vote Simbo, and had raised the question earlier about returning focus to the "sabotage work" issue a couple of hours before this post.
Your vote was reflected in my official count.

Barkeep49
06-22-2012, 08:42 AM
People sleep a lot better tonight than last night. Part of that is literal: tonight there are beds that they can sleep in. But there is also the bigger sense as you’ve found 2 spawn in 4 days and now have a Spawn detector. Fresh off this success, one of your scientists, britrock, is seen conducting further research.

Hoops & CF, the great Engineering buddy team, work through the night once more, this time on the Power Facilities. Chubby can be seen spending the night by the slave pen, while Chief Rum is seen, and then not seen, and then seen again, around the Crew Quarters.

Your Spawn fighting success is great, but you know that you still will also need to get off this planet before you can truly feel safe.

Locations

Building A:
Warehouse 4 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Warehouse 5 7 cycles required for conversion
26 / 40 units filled
Water Supply – 17 units Enough for 1 day at present rate consumption
Crystilium Supply – 49 units (at least 20 required for lift-off)

Slave Pens Fully Operational
Slave Pen 1 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 2 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 3 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 4 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 5 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present

Building B:
Power Facilities Fully Operational
Power Facility 1 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building B
Power Facility 2 2 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building C
Power Facility 3 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building D
Power Facility 4 5 cycles required for conversion
Unused
Power Facility 5 5 cycles required for conversion
Unused

Water Plant Fully Operational 7 cycles required for conversion
Producing enough water for all Survivors each day

Building C:
Security HQ Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion

Armory Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion
18 phasers accounted for

Brig Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion
No crew being held

Building D:

Medical Facilities Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion

Scientists’ Lab Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion
2 Spawn Detected

Peremiter Fence
Offline

Ship
Warehouse 1 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 2 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 3 Converted Inaccessible

Officers’ Offices Fully Operational Converted
Crew Quarters Damaged; 9 sleeping berths; 11 cycles to repair Converted



The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG
First Officer - Lonestargirl
Second Officer - Danny
Security Chief - Zinto Exhausted Armed with a 3 shot phaser


Chief Engineer - hoopsguy Exhausted
Engineers
Crimson Exhausted
Darth

Medical Staff
Doctor - saldana
Doctor - Shiggles Exhausted

Security Staff
Slavemaster - Chubby Exhausted
Sargent-at-Arms - Chief Rum Exhausted
Security Crewman - Julio

Scientists
GoldenEagle
britrock Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent
Slaves
20 slaves accounted for

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR
Danny- Lynched Day 3 SURVIVOR
Autumn Killed Night 3 SURVIVOR
dubb Killed Night 3 SPAWN
Simbo Klice Lynched Day 4 SCRYING SPAWN

Day 5 has begun

Barkeep49
06-22-2012, 08:47 AM
A note on weekend play:
We will finish at deadline today. Night actions will then be due by 1 PM Eastern Saturday. I will then run the Night actions. We will then Start Day 6 for VOTING only. Monday morning I will then open it up for actions.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 08:47 AM
neat! We still have simbo to use!~ hooray for zombification! ;)

Barkeep49
06-22-2012, 08:47 AM
"Hoops, Crimson, Saldana, and Shigggles saddle up. You are joining me on an away team mission," Zinto announces.

Barkeep49
06-22-2012, 08:48 AM
neat! We still have simbo to use!~ hooray for zombification! ;)
I don't know what you're talking about :)

JAG
06-22-2012, 08:50 AM
There were only 9 beds so we can't fully use exhaustion to suspect those that might have out doing a spawn attack. I think it's reasonably likely that that's what they did last night since they need numbers desperately.

JAG
06-22-2012, 08:51 AM
Wait, I think I can counter the mission, hold on.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 08:51 AM
"Hoops, Crimson, Saldana, and Shigggles saddle up. You are joining me on an away team mission," Zinto announces.

LOL

um... No, sir! :)

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 08:53 AM
That seems to pretty much guarantee Zinto is a spawn.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 08:53 AM
Vote Zinto

Zinto
06-22-2012, 08:53 AM
I am not a spawn guys we need some crystals

saldana
06-22-2012, 08:53 AM
shiggles needs to explain why he is exhausted!!!

JAG
06-22-2012, 08:54 AM
Nice play by him though, I'm not 100% sure I can counter it though supposedly I can since I can modify an officer's orders.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 08:54 AM
I am not a spawn guys we need some crystals

But you just happen to need both doctors for that?

JAG
06-22-2012, 08:54 AM
Vote Zinto

Obviously.

Zinto
06-22-2012, 08:55 AM
But you just happen to need both doctors for that?


Yeah I feel safer with doctors by my side.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 08:56 AM
And why the heck do we need crystals?

Zinto
06-22-2012, 08:56 AM
We need 200 to lift off

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 08:57 AM
execute Zinto

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 08:57 AM
Haha... I've never seen a wolf try as hard as he can to get killed.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 08:57 AM
Zinto can I have some of your meth?

Zinto
06-22-2012, 08:58 AM
Wait seriously guys, I am doing what is best for the crew

JAG
06-22-2012, 08:58 AM
I can't counter it guys as it's an action not an order. If I had thought of it before, I could have ordered him to get water by himself immediately at the start of the day. So that sucks.

saldana
06-22-2012, 08:58 AM
"Hoops, Crimson, Saldana, and Shigggles saddle up. You are joining me on an away team mission," Zinto announces.

zinto cannot order me anywhere

Security Chief (Rank 4) (1 AP per cycle)

Interrogate Suspected Spawn Day OnlyThis allows an Officer to to privately communicate (i.e. PM) with any other crew member for the remainder of that particular day’s cycle. If the Security officer is not the Officer chosen to PM, the Security Officer will silently sit in on the interrogation (i.e. Will be CC’ed on the PMs but may not reply). This work is done in the Officers’ Offices. 1 AP

Give Order to Security Personnel: Day Only Same as Captain above EXCEPT that the Security Chief may issue orders only to Galley Master, Security Crewmen, Sergeant at Arms, Slave Master, or Warden and may not override the order of any other officer. 1 AP

Protect Night Only May choose to protect a person or location against attack. If there is an attack on that person/place the attack will occur between the Security Chief and the attacker(s). Protection against an entire building will be successful 40% of the time; this success can be stacked with other security personnel. The Security Chief is armed with a three shot weapon, providing an additional bonus if the weapon has any shots left. Protect has a smaller positive effect against a Spawn Attack. 1 AP

Spy Night Only May designate a person to receive a report of that person’s actions. If the person launches an attack (but not a spawn attack) there is a chance that the Security Chief may perform the Protect action (with no AP cost). It will not be posted whom the Security Chief spied upon, only that he spied upon someone 1 AP

Man Security HQ Day or Night Will receive report of anyone who enters buildings A, B, C, or the ship. Also prevents the Slave Pens, Crew Quarters, Armory, and the Brig from being attacked. 1 AP

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 08:58 AM
I was really thinking JAG/hoops/Danny was going to be a conversion target. But did they take shiggles instead...


um....LOL.

Just realizing....it's Dr. Shiggles! hahaha

Zinto
06-22-2012, 08:58 AM
I can't counter it guys as it's an action not an order. If I had thought of it before, I could have ordered him to get water by himself immediately at the start of the day. So that sucks.


Sorry Captain;)

Zinto
06-22-2012, 08:59 AM
zinto cannot order me anywhere


I can order you any where I want doctor.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:00 AM
zinto cannot order me anywhere


i was just reading that too, sal. Says nothing about giving orders to engineering either. and how away missions have worked, people have to submit their own orders to go on them.

And I sure as heck am not going.

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:01 AM
i was just reading that too, sal. Says nothing about giving orders to engineering either. and how away missions have worked, people have to submit their own orders to go on them.

And I sure as heck am not going.


Unfortunately the one rule I know is that I can take anyone I want on away missions if they have an action remaining. Luckily you guys did.

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:02 AM
Away Teams
Each day all officers and the Slave Master may lead an away team (the Slave Master may only lead an away team made up completely of slaves). There may be more than 1 away team each day. A crew member, if asked, must go on away team if they have the action points to do so.


Here

saldana
06-22-2012, 09:02 AM
Unfortunately the one rule I know is that I can take anyone I want on away missions if they have an action remaining. Luckily you guys did.

too bad it wont do your spawn ass any good

Miracle Worker Once per game may activate for one of the following:
* May protect all members of an Away Team from becoming Spawnlings.
* May replenish spontaneously generate an amount of Water or Crystlium

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:03 AM
I can't counter it guys as it's an action not an order. If I had thought of it before, I could have ordered him to get water by himself immediately at the start of the day. So that sucks.

What?

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:03 AM
I could care less if you guys get spawned I am making sure you are stuck here for another day

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:04 AM
Plus I can't have the doctors clearing any more people. It really is not helping my cause. All I am trying to do is save this poor planet.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:04 AM
Oh, I see. So anyone who doesn't want to go on the away mission just stays home then.

saldana
06-22-2012, 09:05 AM
I could care less if you guys get spawned I am making sure you are stuck here for another day

and we can make sure you arent here for it

execute zinto

Barkeep49
06-22-2012, 09:06 AM
A nearly mutinous away team returns. They did their duty, they got 18 units of Crystlium but they are NOT happy in any way about it.

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:06 AM
You already revealed as the miracle worker Sal I knew that you would be using your power today.

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:07 AM
Anyways I still can't believe you aren't giving a life on this planet a chance it is not so bad.

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:08 AM
We almost have the 200 crystals we need!

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:09 AM
So then no scans can be done. Interesting. Well, we still have our man, so we need to just convert what we can today. I'll go wherever and do whatever needs to be done.

Chief Rum
06-22-2012, 09:11 AM
SALDANA; Do not investigate Zinto.

Chief Rum
06-22-2012, 09:12 AM
I spied on Zinto last night. Zinto is, as we all suspected, Spawn.

VOTE EXECUTE ZINTO

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:12 AM
I'd say we need to do power station 2, and start on converting what we need to convert only. I think we can get off this rock pretty quick.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:12 AM
all we can do is DV lead a team of 6 slaves and chubby lead 4 slaves = 5 conversion points

or DV lead 4 people for 4 points. I don't think chubby can lead slaves to convert unless DV is already using slaves?
Let me look at that

That would be 4 + 2 = 6 if so.

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:12 AM
I spied on Zinto last night. Zinto is, as we all suspected, Spawn.

VOTE EXECUTE ZINTO


No I am not.

Chief Rum
06-22-2012, 09:12 AM
Sorry I am West Coast. Woulda had this to y'all sooner otherwise.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:14 AM
actually julio power stations 4 and 5 are better choices.
(bang a gong, get it on...)

Those two power stations aren't powering anything now.

Chief Rum
06-22-2012, 09:15 AM
No I am not.

Yes you are. And you attacked another last night, and it appears you have successfully created a new Spawnling. It must be someone in the Crew Quarters. You were helped by another Spawn.

Unfortunately, spying has severe limitations. I am only ever told what my spying subject is doing, but no one else's name is mentioned. So I don't know who Zinto attacked in the Crew Quarters last night, and I don't know who helped him.

The same thing happened yesterday when I spied on Autumn. I saw him attack another and die, and dubb's name was never brought up. We can only suppose it was dubb from the evidence we found the next morning.

JAG
06-22-2012, 09:15 AM
Just an FYI, to win it isn't enough for us to kill the spawn. We also have to lift off. There's a reasonable chance that last night they performed a spawn attack teaming up to give themselves a better chance at success. I think I would have been a good target for such an attack because you wouldn't be able to lynch me tomorrow if it happened and if I were spawn, I could order you out on a mission like Zinto did today or other crazy crap you wouldn't be able to stop me from doing. Just something to keep in mind for tomorrow.

Last night I received the duplicant role. That lets me perform any listed public role once a game. We could make use of this in a few ways:

1. I can be a doctor and scan someone. Even if successful though, we will not win with Zinto's lynch because we will not have lifted off and someone else could get mutated.

2. I could be a scientist and research towards everyone getting engineer-like converting abilities.

3. I could be a chief engineer and help us do more converting work today.

Thoughts?

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:17 AM
I nominate finishing power station 2 and starting on station 5, then continuing tonight.

What if Abe trains a new engineer?

Chief Rum
06-22-2012, 09:17 AM
Oh great, that's what I get for skimming this page. I see it's a moot point. :(

saldana
06-22-2012, 09:17 AM
FWIW guys, i was told that my miracle was successful

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:18 AM
actually julio power stations 4 and 5 are better choices.
(bang a gong, get it on...)

Those two power stations aren't powering anything now.

Makes sense.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:19 AM
Just an FYI, to win it isn't enough for us to kill the spawn. We also have to lift off. There's a reasonable chance that last night they performed a spawn attack teaming up to give themselves a better chance at success. I think I would have been a good target for such an attack because you wouldn't be able to lynch me tomorrow if it happened and if I were spawn, I could order you out on a mission like Zinto did today or other crazy crap you wouldn't be able to stop me from doing. Just something to keep in mind for tomorrow.

Last night I received the duplicant role. That lets me perform any listed public role once a game. We could make use of this in a few ways:

1. I can be a doctor and scan someone. Even if successful though, we will not win with Zinto's lynch because we will not have lifted off and someone else could get mutated.

2. I could be a scientist and research towards everyone getting engineer-like converting abilities.

3. I could be a chief engineer and help us do more converting work today.

Thoughts?

Number 2, please. We can lynch you after liftoff to ensure our safety.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:20 AM
JAG, if someone is sp0wned, they are exhausted from it right? (like in need of a cigarette...)

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:20 AM
With 3 scientists working on that, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be completed in time for us to do some work both today and tonight.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:21 AM
We almost have the 200 crystals we need!

what does your race want with the crystals?

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:22 AM
what does your race want with the crystals?


So we can lift off!

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:22 AM
interesting if it is shiggles. as he was taken on the away mission too. But that was to keep him from scanning i guess.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:22 AM
So we can lift off!

where do you want to go? if we take you there, will stop impregnating our men?

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:22 AM
*you

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:23 AM
where do you want to go? if we take you there, will stop impregnating our men?


I can't help it, becoming a spawn has made my sexual desires impossible to control.

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:24 AM
;)

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:24 AM
Sexy Xinto...

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:24 AM
Where is Jackal? I am pretty sure he is the real wolf in this game.

saldana
06-22-2012, 09:26 AM
Officers’ Offices Fully Operational Converted
Crew Quarters Damaged; 9 sleeping berths; 11 cycles to repair Converted



The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG
First Officer - Lonestargirl
Second Officer - Danny
Security Chief - Zinto Exhausted Armed with a 3 shot phaser


Chief Engineer - hoopsguy Exhausted
Engineers
Crimson Exhausted
Darth

Medical Staff
Doctor - saldana
Doctor - Shiggles Exhausted

Security Staff
Slavemaster - Chubby Exhausted
Sargent-at-Arms - Chief Rum Exhausted
Security Crewman - Julio

Scientists
GoldenEagle
britrock Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent

there are 9 beds, but only 8 people not exhausted...shiggles should have been able to sleep

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:28 AM
So we can ignore orders and not do our jobs in PM for day/night actions and jag can counter orders given. But if asked to go on an away team in thread, we can't ignore it and Jag can't counter it. So if it isn't an order, then why do we have to do it. Doesn't exactly make sense.

Zinto
06-22-2012, 09:29 AM
The more time you guys spend walking around outside the better. The air is really fresh out here.

JAG
06-22-2012, 09:29 AM
Wow, nice catch sal. How did I miss that?

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:29 AM
sal, do doctors have ANY night actions?

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:30 AM
oh you think Shiggles WAS the spawn and infected someone?

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:30 AM
and maybe THAT is the real reason he did NOT get a scan yesterday!

saldana
06-22-2012, 09:33 AM
sal, do doctors have ANY night actions?

no

all the doctors actions are day actions

if Chief is to be believed, that there were 2 spawn in the attack last night, Zinto was one, and shiggles should be the other

JAG
06-22-2012, 09:34 AM
I went over the numbers and sal appears to be correct. 9 beds, 8 people that slept. The other exhausted people at least had public actions available to them that would explain their exhaustion, but Shiggles did not.

So now I'm leaning towards being a doctor and examining Shiggles to blow him up. If they infected me, that's a double win for the rest of you guys and then you only have to worry about mutations cropping up while you do your conversion work.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:37 AM
I really don't think they infected you jag. I think it's hoops or sal myself. Or danny.

Chief Rum
06-22-2012, 09:39 AM
no

all the doctors actions are day actions

if Chief is to be believed, that there were 2 spawn in the attack last night, Zinto was one, and shiggles should be the other

It's also possible being attacked and Spawned means one sleeps less well. Shiggles might have been the target.

Plus, it seems to me that up until now, the Spawn weren't getting exhausted with their moves. For instance, I don't think we have any unexplained Zinto or Simbo Klice exhausteds. They might get exhausted with their public roles, but seemingly not for Spawn moves.

We couldn't tell with dubb that an attack could make him exhausted, because he was already standing guard and so would be exhausted anyway.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:40 AM
and of the exhausted people, other than shiggles the only people whose stories we can't really verify are chief and chubby but that's because they are guarding things and just have their word for it.

I guess chubby has been protecting the slaves against attacks.

Chief Rum
06-22-2012, 09:40 AM
Either way, we have to look at Shiggles, though.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:41 AM
I went over the numbers and sal appears to be correct. 9 beds, 8 people that slept. The other exhausted people at least had public actions available to them that would explain their exhaustion, but Shiggles did not.

So now I'm leaning towards being a doctor and examining Shiggles to blow him up. If they infected me, that's a double win for the rest of you guys and then you only have to worry about mutations cropping up while you do your conversion work.

Or this, and we can still get the scientists to try and complete the medium level research.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:42 AM
I guess chubby has been protecting the slaves against attacks.

And thereby protecting us from a slave revolt.

JAG
06-22-2012, 09:46 AM
It's also possible being attacked and Spawned means one sleeps less well. Shiggles might have been the target.

Plus, it seems to me that up until now, the Spawn weren't getting exhausted with their moves. For instance, I don't think we have any unexplained Zinto or Simbo Klice exhausteds. They might get exhausted with their public roles, but seemingly not for Spawn moves.

We couldn't tell with dubb that an attack could make him exhausted, because he was already standing guard and so would be exhausted anyway.

There's nothing in the rules about a person getting attacked becoming exhausted though. There is something that suggests there's a decent chance it could happen to a spawn though:

A successful spawnling attack causes a person to become infected and (surprise) become a spawnling. A spawnling attack starts with a 70% chance of success. For each person who joins the attack, up to three, there is an additional 25% chance of success. A spawnling attack increases the chance that all spawns will become exhausted, especially those spawns who participate in a Spawnling Attack. Otherwise Spawnling attacks follow the rules for General Attacks.

Zinto was exhausted last night and obviously did this attack. Shiggles has no alibi for being exhausted.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:48 AM
Mind Leech Instead of an attack, if the Mind Leech is not exhausted (see Status Exhausted below) at night, he may rob a player of their ability to use abilities and actions. Passive abilities (like Resistant) and actions (based on a role) are automatically negated. If the player tries to use an Active ability there is a 40% chance that the ability will be negated. Both involved players become "Exhausted" in any case.

Swarm Lord If a Swarm Lord is in play and is not exhausted or wounded, the Swarm Lord, along with one other Spawn who is not wounded or exhausted, may release a Swarm Attack. A Swarm is released against a living target. Swarm attacks are unlike regular attacks. If sent against someone who is healthy and rested, there is a 40% chance that person will be killed and a 60% chance that person will be made Wounded and Exhausted. If sent against someone who is wounded or exhausted, they will be killed. All Spawn who participate in a Swarm attack become exhausted.


Regular Attacks

An attack starts with a 75% chance of success. For each additional person who joins in the attack there is an additional 35% chance of success. There is a maximum of three people in one attack. If two (or more) Spawn (or Spawn groups) both attack the same target the additional chance of success is increased, but at a lesser rate, unless instructions have been given that person A will attack followed by person B (see Multiple Attacks below). The chance of success may be further changed by a person’s status (e.g. Exhausted or Resistant)

Modifiers which increase the chance of the Attack succeeding
*More than one person attacking
*Target is exhausted or wounded
*Attack of a room and not a person

Modifiers which decrease the chance of the Attack succeeding
*Security personnel is defending
*Security personnel has a phaser
*The person being attacked is resistant

The level of damage done to either a person or a room is based on how successful the attack is. An attack where the number rolled is above the chance of success is a failure, and there is a small chance that the attacker will be wounded. An attack where the number rolled is from 0-19 of the chance of success then a person is wounded; if a person is already wounded there is an 80% chance that person will die. Any other result causes the person to die. If the target of an attack is a room and is protected, and the only protector dies, there is a chance damage will be done to the room.

If Spawn attack each other there is a 60% possibility that nothing will happen (Spawn will simply know the attack was unsuccessful), a 10% chance that the attacking Spawn will recognize the defender as a Spawn and a 30% chance the attack will be rolled.

Multiple Attacks and Protectors
Spawn may decide instead of combining an attack to launch more than one attack (but may only attack a person or room twice in one night). When PM’ing the GM with the attack information it should also include the order of attack. The first attack will be resolved followed by the second.

If there is more than one protector, the protector with the most bonuses will fight the attack EXCEPT if the target is a person while the protector is protecting a room (Example: Joe and Sam are guarding the engine room. Sam has more bonuses. If the Spawn attack Joe, Joe will be the one attacked, not Sam)

Spawnling Attack

A successful spawnling attack causes a person to become infected and (surprise) become a spawnling. A spawnling attack starts with a 70% chance of success. For each person who joins the attack, up to three, there is an additional 25% chance of success. A spawnling attack increases the chance that all spawns will become exhausted, especially those spawns who participate in a Spawnling Attack. Otherwise Spawnling attacks follow the rules for General Attacks.
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Here are the areas i found talking about spawns and exhaustion. I think sal's theory is more likely . That shiggles is a spawn and helped with the mutation of someone else.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:48 AM
Ok I am out, I volunteer my services to any task for which they may be required.

I have also sent in my night actions just in case I don't get a chance tonight.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:49 AM
we can just lynch shiggles tomorrow. that's proof enough for me

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:50 AM
what about day actions julio?

JAG
06-22-2012, 09:50 AM
I really don't think they infected you jag. I think it's hoops or sal myself. Or danny.

Saldana would have been a very logical option as well, especially if Shiggles is bad, because the spawn would have had both doctors under control, so they could have cleared each other, prevented us from curing spawnlings, etc... I think Abe probably has to make a doctor out of one of the security people just to be sure that didn't happen.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:50 AM
incidently yes we CAN have 6 conversion points today

DV supervises 4 people + Chubby supervises 4 slaves = 6 points.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:51 AM
what about day actions julio?

Well, what can I do? let me go get a look.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:52 AM
I can man the security HQ today, I guess.

JAG
06-22-2012, 09:53 AM
we can just lynch shiggles tomorrow. that's proof enough for me

If we leave him alive, he can perform another attack tonight. I think it's better to eliminate him immediately.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:54 AM
actually the power facilities only need 5 to convert. And I actually don't know if we HAVE 4 people to send LOL.

So Darth can supervise 6 slaves and Chubby can supervise 4 slaves and that's the 5 to convert power facility E.

So I don't think we'll need you to do converts julio.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:54 AM
If we leave him alive, he can perform another attack tonight. I think it's better to eliminate him immediately.

how do we do that?

JAG
06-22-2012, 09:55 AM
The fly in your ointment with the mind leach is it says the person performing the attack can not be exhausted and everyone was exhausted yesterday. The swarm thing also says if used on someone who is exhausted it will kill them.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:55 AM
Ok, I have submitted my actions for the day to man security HQ, and for tonight to help with whatever needs work. I've asked to be put on any team that needs me, preferably those that could be finished with my help.

JAG
06-22-2012, 09:57 AM
how do we do that?

Read post 1647. I can be a doctor today and examine him.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 09:57 AM
That is, unless we're not working on the medium level science thingy.

In that case, I guess I can amend my instructions to include manning security HQ tonight as well in the event that I am not needed for work.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:58 AM
I meant PF 5 not E.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 09:59 AM
So does that sound good with people? We get Darth and Chubby and 10 slaves to convert Power Facility 5 (which isn't hooked up to anything)?

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 10:01 AM
Morning!

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 10:01 AM
hey abe.

JAG
06-22-2012, 10:01 AM
Julio, don't submit.

JAG
06-22-2012, 10:02 AM
We might want Abe to make you a doctor.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 10:02 AM
So does that sound good with people? We get Darth and Chubby and 10 slaves to convert Power Facility 5 (which isn't hooked up to anything)?

I'm good with it.

JAG
06-22-2012, 10:04 AM
GE and Brit for sure should research the medium level option today.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 10:04 AM
We might want Abe to make you a doctor.

Oh, ok. Heh.. I have already submitted though. Can I reverse that?

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 10:04 AM
Read post 1647. I can be a doctor today and examine him.

ah getting killed I see.

JAG
06-22-2012, 10:05 AM
So does that sound good with people? We get Darth and Chubby and 10 slaves to convert Power Facility 5 (which isn't hooked up to anything)?

Yes. We should try to use slaves whenever possible now that any movement between buildings means possible mutations.

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 10:06 AM
And there are 2 spawn detected. This was before simbo died. So...scientists and abe, please fill us in. Does that thing tell us how many total full spawn there are? All evil including spawnlings?

I'm listed as a scientist on the list, but I don't count as one, I asked BK that in th thread a few days ago I believe.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 10:06 AM
well, Jag if you like the engineering plan, you can submit orders for Darth + chubby + 10 slaves to convert PF 5. Not sure when/if they'll show up.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 10:06 AM
I need to get in the shower, guys.. Am I being made a doctor?

JAG
06-22-2012, 10:08 AM
Oh, ok. Heh.. I have already submitted though. Can I reverse that?

No unfortunately. It may have to be CR in that case because Chubby is needed to lead the slaves for extra conversion points and then we make a new Sargeant tomorrow. Or maybe Danny can reassugn you to Sargeant today though that means no weapons tonight.

JAG
06-22-2012, 10:10 AM
I'm trying to get my affairs in order. :)

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 10:10 AM
Ok, whatever happens, lets keep doing what we're doing and beat these spawn. We've got em on the run.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 10:11 AM
Okay

Darth Vilus and Chubby
hoops and I were forced to go on an away mission by evil Zinto so you are all that is left for conversion today.
Would you please take slaves (Darth 6 and Chubby 4) out to convert Power Facility 5 today? Thank you.

If other things happen today to prevent this, work with Jag to figure out what to do

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 10:12 AM
There Jag, You can work with them if anything else comes up or if they have questions.

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 10:13 AM
Still getting caught up, but I think GoldenEagle is a good scan today for a doctor. We have no info on him, and if he comes back clean then he can play for a while and get caught up.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 10:14 AM
I'm guessing Abe isn't to the Zinto part yet hehehehe

Chief Rum
06-22-2012, 10:15 AM
Read post 1647. I can be a doctor today and examine him.

But that won't kill him, and actually, could end up with you infected.

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 10:16 AM
"Hoops, Crimson, Saldana, and Shigggles saddle up. You are joining me on an away team mission," Zinto announces.

Damn Zints - powerful play I have o admit

Lynch Zinto

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 10:18 AM
Doctor (2 AP per cycle)
All work of the doctor is done in the Medical Facilities.

Examination Day Only The doctor may choose to examine any crew member. If the crew member is a survivor, the doctor will learn this. If the crew member is infected, but has not yet become a spawn, the doctor will learn this, and will have a good chance to cure the crew member. If the crew member is a spawn both the doctor and the spawn will be killed. 2 AP


Actually this is the part that's important chief. I'm actually not sure why Jag wanted us to read that post as it doesn't say exactly what the above does.

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 10:19 AM
I nominate finishing power station 2 and starting on station 5, then continuing tonight.

What if Abe trains a new engineer?

S a reminder,r I can only move enlisted people to specialists. There are three security people. Do you want me to move to just two to move one to engineer? Especially with our fence out?

JAG
06-22-2012, 10:20 AM
I think it's worth the trade off to take me out because Shiggles won't get in an attack tonight and he could potentially be a high value spawn (queen or overlord).

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 10:22 AM
I went over the numbers and sal appears to be correct. 9 beds, 8 people that slept. The other exhausted people at least had public actions available to them that would explain their exhaustion, but Shiggles did not.

So now I'm leaning towards being a doctor and examining Shiggles to blow him up. If they infected me, that's a double win for the rest of you guys and then you only have to worry about mutations cropping up while you do your conversion work.

Since we're scanless today, that's where I'd go now. Now that I've gotten mostly caught up, although still doing it.

Chief Rum
06-22-2012, 10:24 AM
But you're the captain. This would elevate LSG. Are we fine with LSG as captain? Danny would become first officer with Zinto being lynched, and we would be missing two officers.

Can we reassign someone to warden and get the brig powered by the end of the day? We could stick Shiggles in there if we could.

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 10:24 AM
We might want Abe to make you a doctor.

They don't become a doctor until tomorrrow

JAG
06-22-2012, 10:27 AM
They don't become a doctor until tomorrrow

We would need the doctor for tomorrow if Saldana was the target of the spawn attack last night. We don't know for sure that he was, but he would have been a very logical target.

JAG
06-22-2012, 10:32 AM
But you're the captain. This would elevate LSG. Are we fine with LSG as captain? Danny would become first officer with Zinto being lynched, and we would be missing two officers.

Can we reassign someone to warden and get the brig powered by the end of the day? We could stick Shiggles in there if we could.

Actually the brig is currently operational, but putting someone I. It is a day action and I think whoever we make warden wouldn't become that until the following day.

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 10:32 AM
Julio is the best choice to pormote based on roles

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 10:34 AM
We would need the doctor for tomorrow if Saldana was the target of the spawn attack last night. We don't know for sure that he was, but he would have been a very logical target.

If you decide to scan Shiggles, and it works and he's not a spawn, then we're fine I think. If it fails and he's a spawn, then Julio is a the best choice for our new spawn. I kinda want to wait to see if that's what you do and what the result are before training Julio

Chief Rum
06-22-2012, 10:34 AM
Actually the brig is currently operational, but putting someone I. It is a day action and I think whoever we make warden wouldn't become that until the following day.

Can you order someone into the brig without a warden maybe?

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 10:39 AM
I see Shiggles here - what happened alst night?

JAG
06-22-2012, 10:39 AM
I can't, but I could use my duplicant ability to act as a warden and put him in the brig for a coupe days or indefinitely.

JAG
06-22-2012, 10:40 AM
That might be an idea, good thinking Chief.

Chief Rum
06-22-2012, 10:45 AM
That might be an idea, good thinking Chief.

I'm fulla all sorts of good ideas! :D

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 10:47 AM
Hey Bk, just wanted to let you know that I'm enjoying the shit out of this game, even if I've read the rules twice and still feel like im behind the block with them :)

Autumn
06-22-2012, 10:48 AM
Hey Bk, just wanted to let you know that I'm enjoying the shit out of this game, even if I've read the rules twice and still feel like im behind the block with them :)

Amen. I'm ready for Spawn V!

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 10:50 AM
If you decide to scan Shiggles, and it works and he's not a spawn, then we're fine I think. If it fails and he's a spawn, then Julio is a the best choice for our new spawn. I kinda want to wait to see if that's what you do and what the result are before training Julio

Would I know if I were turned into a spawnling? I haven't been hinted toward as being one.

I slept last night and I'm not exhausted. I don't know why I would make a good choice really.

Shiggles
06-22-2012, 10:52 AM
Ok just caught up. BALLS zinto lol.

I did the bed count too, 9 beds 8 people slept, i apparently with my leftover action point didnt have enough sense to jump on a bed soon enough lol. I was unable to find a bed.

With my new ability of scanning people not being able to be used suckssssss lol. I was gonna suggest that i could scan the secondary candidate because zinto is obviously a spawn (yay for my "solidifying vote" yesterday, but i was mostly sure him AND simbo were spawn, if you can find the post number with my statements on it) Anyways. My motivations have not changed. Although im not sure who the other suspicious candidate would be. I was probably gonna suggest scan Darth or Julio if were lynching Zinto, but would also submit to a JAG order or group consensus.

And since i have no actions for today or tonight lol, ill probably just be on in an observatory capacity, since today is a busy day as well. Nice to know the weekend is off cause i wasnt sure how it was gonna play out, but all good now, monday is off pretty much, just showing the avengers to my buds from chicago sometime, so a chill day of awesome, should have plenty of time to chat and stuff.

Vote Zinto

P.S. Look at that! Golden Eagle is TOTALLY protected! you guys doubt my spells. Mad skills! :-P

Bbl guys!

Shiggles
06-22-2012, 10:56 AM
Oh hey, would it work like this? Zinto "claimed" a bed, but did spawn activity because its not public knowledge (well actually it is, but lol) and that shoved me off the bed roster, which would explain why only 8 got sleep? If i'd have known, i would have asked JAG for a cott requisition lol. Anyways :-)

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 10:56 AM
Unless someone becoming a spawnling is a secret to the person in question, using a scan on me would be a waste. Now if a person isn't told there is anything out of the ordinary when they become a spawnling, then I guess I could be one. I'm just saying I have no reason to believe I could be a spawnling.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 10:58 AM
we need to heavily protect the water facility tonight though, if I am not mistaken. The little fun run Zinto did this morning probably replaced our backup water supply with crystlium.

JAG
06-22-2012, 11:00 AM
Just to remind people, we have a scanner that tells us the number of active spawn now (under the science lab section of the results). We know there are currently only 2 spawn (probably does not count spawnlings, so there may be one of these out there). Zinto is one. We have decent reason to believe Shiggles is the other. If that's true, everyone else in the game is currently clear, though possibly infected.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 11:01 AM
yeah I think shiggles it totally a spawn LOL and no I cannot translate his lingo for you :)

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 11:01 AM
I'm torn on whether shiggles could be bad though. If he was a converted spawn, I would think it better for him to just fake his work as a doctor and give us a false positive on someone than to be stripped of that option.

But, then again we have a guy who is exhausted suddenly, and apparently we don't have any verifiable proof as to why.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 11:02 AM
There is no such thing as claiming a bed. If you submit no order, then you sleep.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 11:02 AM
unless BK can't count. :)

saldana
06-22-2012, 11:03 AM
Ok just caught up. BALLS zinto lol.

I did the bed count too, 9 beds 8 people slept, i apparently with my leftover action point didnt have enough sense to jump on a bed soon enough lol. I was unable to find a bed.



this right here is garbage...you dont have to do anything to sleep...only to stay awake...you dont have to put in a request to claim a bed either, which leads me to believe that shiggles hasnt slept once

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 11:03 AM
Would I know if I were turned into a spawnling? I haven't been hinted toward as being one.

I slept last night and I'm not exhausted. I don't know why I would make a good choice really.

I meant best choice for our new doctor and misspoke, sorry

Abe Sargent
06-22-2012, 11:07 AM
My goal for today is to find out which seminary has the better academics and programs, which will significantly lean in that direction of me going there for my theology masters.

Julio Riddols
06-22-2012, 11:07 AM
I think we have our options cut out for us then. we can kill 2 spawn before they get a chance to do a night action if we doctor scan shiggles and get a hit.

That would make working at night easier, for sure. It would also keep anyone or anything else from being attacked tonight.

As for me becoming a doctor, I like that idea, but I don't think I can be trained today, because I already submitted my stuff because I thought I had to leave. Turns out my mom isn't meeting us to pick up my boy until 2:30, so I have until around 1:30/2:00 to hang around and try to help sort this out.

CrimsonFox
06-22-2012, 11:08 AM
Can you order someone into the brig without a warden maybe?

i wondered about this as the brig rules say nothing about the warden. But now reading the warden rules is says warden makes a list of people that go to the brig including the duration (or no duration if indefinite). So the warden rules suggest that we need one to use the brig.

Barkeep49
06-22-2012, 11:12 AM
Julio enters the Security HQ and takes watch over the activities of the colony.