WW CXLIX SPAWN IV - GAME OVER (Post 3845)

[Autumn]

The good news, Schmidty, is that JAG's been able to put your orders in for us, so it hasn't hurt us. Do'nt worry about it.

[CrimsonFox]

i really hate this. I've been in at least 2 games where we KNEW a wolf and didn't vote them for some dumb reason and it ended up really screwing us.

[Autumn]

Luckily for you (and the rest of us), only a survivor can have the secret role of slayer... if the heading it's listed under means anything. :)

oh good point, that's not one that carries over. So we're good.

[Julio Riddols]

Yeah I have a role, but why should I have to reveal it? Just don't lynch me and trust that you made the right choice. There isn't any suspicious behavior in my history.

[Autumn]

i really hate this. I've been in at least 2 games where we KNEW a wolf and didn't vote them for some dumb reason and it ended up really screwing us.

Or do you hate voting for the real wolves on the chopping block?

[Autumn]

Yeah I have a role, but why should I have to reveal it? Just don't lynch me and trust that you made the right choice. There isn't any suspicious behavior in my history.

WEll, actually there's enough suspicious behavior to get you a whole bunch of votes, so ....

[Schmidty]

Did Schmidty just sacrifice himself?

I have no idea. I don't even know what that means.

[Autumn]

Schmidty, if you can PM Barkeep and tell him you want to spend your day researching the highest level research option with britrock, that would be awesome.

[Schmidty]

Schmidty, if you can PM Barkeep and tell him you want to spend your day researching the highest level research option with britrock, that would be awesome.

Ok, thanks man.

[CrimsonFox]

Yeah I have a role, but why should I have to reveal it? Just don't lynch me and trust that you made the right choice. There isn't any suspicious behavior in my history.

because the alternative is being dead and not getting to use your role. If you have a great role and are about to get lynched you need to tell us and on nights after this we can protect you.

[dubb93]

Luckily for you (and the rest of us), only a survivor can have the secret role of slayer... if the heading it's listed under means anything. :)

Really? You really think I'm a spawn?

I think it's pretty common knowledge that I am NOT a spawn at this point.

[Zinto]

Eh just to keep it close for now I am going to vote for Hoops. We need to lynch someone tonight though and I will be moving onto whoever is closest to seven votes in about ten minutes.

Vote Hoops

[Autumn]

Did anyone note if Danny passed out the weapons?

[Zinto]

Yeah Julio if you have a important secret role it is better to reveal it and not die then to take it to the grave.

[Julio Riddols]

My whole theory over saldana possibly faking his test results has presumably been blown up by the crimsonfox empath result of truth based on what saldana said about dubb after the exam took place. I stopped pursuing that line of thought at that point because it was obviously wrong. Saldana has been vetted by Crimsons empath scan, and the only person we know for a fact right now to be a threat is dubb. Apparently autumn is going to kill him or try to kill him tonight.

Now there's a witch hunt going on, and I am telling you if I get 7 votes and go down, it won't be good.

[Autumn]

Hoops is, I think, a really bad choice. He has done nothing but help the cause out, and guide us in the right direction.

[dubb93]

For the record I'm rolled too. I covered that way earlier in the day when I suggested keeping me around and curing me tomorrow.

[Zinto]

Did anyone note if Danny passed out the weapons?

Tonight's phasers, care of your friendly Sargent-at-Arms Danny go to Saldana, Jag, Autumn, LonestarGirl, Zinto, Packerfanatic, Danny, Chief Rum, Chubby and Julio.


There you go sir.

[Julio Riddols]

if the votes aren't moving off me by 10 til, I will reveal then.

[Autumn]

I don't see any role that it should matter if Julio reveals it, so I'm not really buying this.

[Autumn]

Thanks, Zinto.

[LoneStarGirl]

Hoops is, I think, a really bad choice. He has done nothing but help the cause out, and guide us in the right direction.

I agree, which is why I think Zinto needs to be looked at

[Zinto]

Well now we have Julio and Dubb claiming a role, so if we are moving from Julio, we are going to need to make it quick.

[Autumn]

JAG, I think it's just PackerFanatic you may want to order into action. And let Lonestar know if you want to assign anyone.

[CrimsonFox]

zinto, since you're here, what are your thoughts?

[britrock88]

Really? You really think I'm a spawn?

I think it's pretty common knowledge that I am NOT a spawn at this point.

I think you're a spawnling. I can't speak with knowledge for what you'll be tonight, though.

Did anyone note if Danny passed out the weapons?

Yeah, to everybody as before, except dubb.

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VOTE COUNT

dubb (4) - saldana (1486), abe (1514), chubby (1636), simbo (1697)
julio (3) - autumn (1626), hoops (1701), lsg (1725), dubb (1735)
hoops (3) - chief (1643), cf (1732), zinto (1762)
simbo (2) - danny (1450), julio (1730)
danny (1) - shiggles (1624)

[JAG]

Did anyone note if Danny passed out the weapons?

He did. Just PF that needs coverage I think. LSG could just do his job unless we want her to reassign Julio to a security spot (if he lives).

[britrock88]

Hold on, typo. Julio has 4 votes already.

[JAG]

I don't see any role that it should matter if Julio reveals it, so I'm not really buying this.

I could see roles he might want to keep spawn from knowing he has. I tend to think his suggestions and stuff today were not very good, but more like someone trying to be helpful and failing than someone purposefully trying to be deceitful.

[Barkeep49]

Autumn retreats to the Offices Offices to do some planning.

[Autumn]

Julio on security isn't a bad idea. Even if he's bad, and lives, if he fakes his work and they attack there it will be obvious.

[JAG]

No offense intended Julio.

[Julio Riddols]

I won't be faking any work unless I get spawn'd some time down the line.

[Autumn]

I could see roles he might want to keep spawn from knowing he has. I tend to think his suggestions and stuff today were not very good, but more like someone trying to be helpful and failing than someone purposefully trying to be deceitful.

Certainly possible. I would vote Danny, but I'm not going to vote Hoops.

[britrock88]

VOTE COUNT

dubb (4) - saldana (1486), abe (1514), chubby (1636), simbo (1697)
julio (4) - autumn (1626), hoops (1701), lsg (1725), dubb (1735)
hoops (3) - chief (1643), cf (1732), zinto (1762)
simbo (2) - danny (1450), julio (1730)
danny (1) - shiggles (1624)

Just a correct version of the above.

[Barkeep49]

Vote Count:

Votes Needed to lynch: 7

Simbo 2 - Danny (1450) Julio (1730)
Julio 4 - Autumn (1626) hoops (1701) LSG (1725) dubb (1735)
hoops 2 - CR (1643) CF (1732)
dubb 4 - saldana (1486) Abe (1514) Chubby (1636) Simbo (1697)
Danny 1 - Shiggles (1624)

[Julio Riddols]

No offense intended Julio.

None taken, I thought my idea made sense until crimson proved it to be wrong. If you can tell me anything else I could have done differently, then go ahead. I do my stream of consciousness shit every game.

[Autumn]

britrock, where are you voting?

[CrimsonFox]

julio offered up the "I am not a spawn" statement thinking an empath could scan him with it. THis was before I told him this would not work.

[JAG]

On the practical side if we kill Danny, we will not have any weapons passed out to people tomorrow.

[Autumn]

None taken, I thought my idea made sense until crimson proved it to be wrong. If you can tell me anything else I could have done differently, then go ahead. I do my stream of consciousness shit every game.

There were several suggestions that are just what I would expect a Spawn to push the village towards. I dont remember them all just now.

[LoneStarGirl]

There are only 9 of us here right now, two have not voted yet. we have ten minutes to move off Julio

[Autumn]

On the practical side if we kill Danny, we will not have any weapons passed out to people tomorrow.

Can we assign a new sergeant-at-arms or does it have to be trained?

[britrock88]

britrock, where are you voting?

Hard to tell. I support your idea to get dubb and get a regular lynch in, but there's not terribly much support for anyone else. Maybe I should push Julio toward the magic number?

[LoneStarGirl]

On the practical side if we kill Danny, we will not have any weapons passed out to people tomorrow.

Can I train somebody to take his place by tomorrow?

[CrimsonFox]

so really we have 1 candidate right now. That's not much better than just lynching dubb.

[Julio Riddols]

I'm a psychic. There you go. More to come in the case I am going to get lynched.

[CrimsonFox]

julio why in the world aren't you revealing and why in the world aren't you moving to dubb to save yourself?

[JAG]

Can we assign a new sergeant-at-arms or does it have to be trained?

You're right, it can be reassigned so my statement was wrong.

Vote Danny

I don't know that this is a high percentage play, but I like the other options less.

[britrock88]

There were several suggestions that are just what I would expect a Spawn to push the village towards. I dont remember them all just now.

Following up my last post, that's the same impression I have, only I feel bad voting Julio for it because I realized that for at least some of his ideas, I tend to think the same way (only as a villager and not a spawn).

[Zinto]

zinto, since you're here, what are your thoughts?


Good question. If Dubb is not the slayer then I think letting Autumn take care of him tonight is the best idea for the village. Honestly based on how yesterday played out in the voting I would more someone who avoided voting all together be pushed. I don't think any of those people are exhausted though and the exhaustion trail seems to be the best one we have. The problem is e still have people avoiding voting today and that is not going to help the village in the long run.

[LoneStarGirl]

unvote julio

vote danny

[Autumn]

<b>unvote Julio riddols
vote danny</b>

[britrock88]

When in doubt, follow the captain?

VOTE DANNY

[LoneStarGirl]

I dont think people are avoiding voting, I think they aren't here to vote and when they were here earlier today only 3 or 4 people had put votes in.

Everybody I see who is in this thread has put a vote in besides you Zinto and Britrock

[LoneStarGirl]

I hate that Danny isn't here for this though

[dubb93]

Wait.

You are the psychic? OK. We just supposed to take your word for it? BS reveal. Real reveal would come with past nights results.

[britrock88]

Holy crap, just saw two others vote Danny for the first time. We're going to have to justify ourselves later.

[JAG]

I don't have any secret knowledge guys.

[Zinto]

I think Dubb has the most votes at this point and I would like to see a lynch so...

Unvote Hoops
Vote Dubb

[Autumn]

Normally I would never push lynching Danny early on, but he has been rubbing me the wrong way. While I'm sleeping no less.

[Julio Riddols]

Now I KNOW I need this gun around.

[britrock88]

VOTE COUNT

dubb (4) - saldana (1486), abe (1514), chubby (1636), simbo (1697)
julio (2) - hoops (1701), dubb (1735)
hoops (3) - chief (1643), cf (1732), zinto (1762)
danny (5) - shiggles (1624), jag (1799), lsg (1802), autumn (1803), britrock (1804)
simbo (2) - danny (1450), julio (1730)

[dubb93]

Unvote Julio

Vote Danny

I still gotst to stay alive!

[LoneStarGirl]

JAG - do you want me to assign somebody to security?

BK can I assign somebody to sargeant at arms

[CrimsonFox]

Simbo 2 - Danny (1450) Julio (1730)
Julio 4 - Autumn (1626) hoops (1701) LSG (1725) dubb (1735)
hoops 2 - CR (1643) CF (1732)
dubb 4 - saldana (1486) Abe (1514) Chubby (1636) Simbo (1697)
Danny 2 - Shiggles (1624) JAG (1799)

[Zinto]

And now that person is Danny.

Unvote Dubb
Vote Danny

[Julio Riddols]

Wait.

You are the psychic? OK. We just supposed to take your word for it? BS reveal. Real reveal would come with past nights results.

If I win the lynch vote, you bet your ass those results are coming.

[Autumn]

Heh, as I've said all night, I'll vote either one of them. Julio is giving some good reason to move off of him.

CF, can you use your empath ability on Julio saying he's a psychic?

[JAG]

LSG, PM BK to reassign Julio to security crewman.

[CrimsonFox]

ignore my count bleh

[dubb93]

If I win the lynch vote, you bet your ass those results are coming.

Lol, guys, ask yourself. Does a villager say this?

[CrimsonFox]

Heh, as I've said all night, I'll vote either one of them. Julio is giving some good reason to move off of him.

CF, can you use your empath ability on Julio saying he's a psychic?

not wise. It is really a coerced statement. I totally told him to reveal.

[Autumn]

CF, please empath away! if Barkeep is around to respond.

[Autumn]

not wise. It is really a coerced statement. I totally told him to reveal.

That is coerced? He told us his role. If your ability doesn't work on that, that's not much of an ability.

[britrock88]

VOTE COUNT

dubb (4) - saldana (1486), abe (1514), chubby (1636), simbo (1697)
julio (1) - hoops (1701)
hoops (2) - chief (1643), cf (1732)
danny (7) - shiggles (1624), jag (1799), lsg (1802), autumn (1803), britrock (1804), dubb (1814), zinto (1817)
simbo (2) - danny (1450), julio (1730)

[LoneStarGirl]

I dont think BK is around, but I put the order in JAG

[britrock88]

We have a critical mass on Danny... who's not here to defend himself. Are we confident about this?

[Zinto]

I dont think people are avoiding voting, I think they aren't here to vote and when they were here earlier today only 3 or 4 people had put votes in.

Everybody I see who is in this thread has put a vote in besides you Zinto and Britrock


I had a vote down before you posted this. Also, we only have around thirteen votes of the nineteen players we have playing the game.(According to the most recent counts) Those people are not voting and need to.

[Autumn]

He knew he was getting some votes. And frankly there aren't important secret roles. So I have no problem with it.

[Julio Riddols]

I'm more confident about Danny than I am myself, for obvious reasons.

[Zinto]

Looks like it is sixteen votes but still people didn't vote today

[Autumn]

JAG, you sent in Packer's order, I assume?

[britrock88]

Zinto -- PF isn't around, Schmidty isn't up to speed, and there's one other outstanding vote.

[Autumn]

CF, your vote count on 1816 was the worst vote count I've ever seen.

lol

Not being snotty!

[Julio Riddols]

UNVOTE Simbo

VOTE DANNY

To put it over the top.

[JAG]

JAG, you sent in Packer's order, I assume?

Just did, and Schmidty's just in case.

[Autumn]

Crazy day.

[LoneStarGirl]

CF, your vote count on 1816 was the worst vote count I've ever seen.

lol

Not being snotty!

I think that is the one i was looking at, sorry Zinto

[JAG]

Crazy day.

Bad guys won't lack for targets.

[CrimsonFox]

Simbo 2 - Danny (1450) Julio
Julio 1 - hoops (1701)
hoops 2 - CR (1643) CF (1732)
dubb 4 - saldana (1486) Abe (1514) Chubby (1636) Zinto (1810)
Danny 8 - Shiggles (1624) JAG (1799) LSG (1802) Autumn (1803) britrock (1804) dubb (1814) Zinto (1817) Simbo (1836)

[Zinto]

No worries everything happened so fast in the last ten minutes or so.

[CrimsonFox]

well nice run there guys, congrats.
And dubb is with you :P

[Julio Riddols]

God, I hate contentious nights like this. :)

[CrimsonFox]

unvote hoops
vote dubb

means nothing but...

[CrimsonFox]

oh i've got zinto twice. I think I'll stop doing this.

[Barkeep49]

Julio Thank you for your service as Galley Master. As of tomorrow morning your services will no longer be required in that capacity. Instead I would like you to be a general security crewman LSG orders.

[CrimsonFox]

CF, your vote count on 1816 was the worst vote count I've ever seen.

lol

Not being snotty!


Ain't that the truth! Serious. I copied that over and there were like 20 posts between when I was figuring things and when i submitted it.

[dubb93]

Seriously, the next person who accuses me of being a spawn is getting night killed when I fully convert.

[Autumn]

CF, your voting tonight is ... interesting.

[Autumn]

Seriously, the next person who accuses me of being a spawn is getting night killed when I fully convert.

Better get your beauty sleep, Dubb. I ain't knocking when I arrive.

[Autumn]

I hope Danny is the Spawn Queen. For several reasons.

[CrimsonFox]

That is coerced? He told us his role. If your ability doesn't work on that, that's not much of an ability.

welcome to my world.

I cannot scan statments of the "I am not a spawn" variety and coerced statements will ALWAYS come back as TRUE. Damn right we coerced him to reveal.

[Barkeep49]

No worries everything happened so fast in the last ten minutes or so.
This is the final vote count I have; will process any PMs I received after LSG in the end of day recap.

[CrimsonFox]

I hope Danny is the Spawn Queen. For several reasons.

So you can get it on with royalty?
Because you have a craving for a Prawn Blizzard?
what?

[Julio Riddols]

I go from people going after my throat to getting a promotion? Gonna need about 6 Schlitz's before I start patrolling.

[dubb93]

Better get your beauty sleep, Dubb. I ain't knocking when I arrive.

Whatever. I don't seem scared do I? I told you earlier I'm not a easy target and I'm roled. Take it how you will.

[Barkeep49]

I quoted the wrong post so here's the final vote count I have:
Votes Needed to lynch: 7

Simbo 1 - Danny (1450)
Julio 1 - hoops (1701)
hoops 2 - CR (1643) CF (1732)
dubb 4 - saldana (1486) Abe (1514) Chubby (1636) Simbo (1697)
Danny 8 - Shiggles (1624) JAG (1799) LSG (1802) Autumn (1803) brit (1804) dubb (1814) Zinto (1817) Julio (1836)

[CrimsonFox]

I'll just scan julio's statement about making potroast. I don't want this ability hanging around me.

[CrimsonFox]

I go from people going after my throat to getting a promotion? Gonna need about 6 Schlitz's before I start patrolling.

welcome to werewolf :P

[Autumn]

Perhaps Julio will reveal something noteworthy to scan later, CF. *ahem*

[Julio Riddols]

I really did make pot roast yesterday.

[Autumn]

Whatever. I don't seem scared do I? I told you earlier I'm not a easy target and I'm roled. Take it how you will.

With a grain of salt? Is that an option?

[Julio Riddols]

But that was in real life.

[Autumn]

I've gotten pretty buff from pushing all these papers, Dubb.

[Julio Riddols]

The pot roast here was more of a poorly done stew.

[Barkeep49]

The pot roast here was more of a poorly done stew.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's still plenty of meat on that bone. Now you take this home, throw it in a pot, add some broth, a potato. Baby, you've got a stew going.

[Barkeep49]

A weird day comes to an end. Before that can happen, JAG orders Schmidty to perform some research and PF to work on the crew quarters.

Clearly you all were the right ones to settle this planet because not even your doctor saying he knows of a Spawnling is enough to make you concerned about Spawn. No you decide to go in a different direction. Danny is taken, summarily excuted, and given a full autopsy. No sign of Spawn, just one very dead SURVIVOR Sergant-at-Arms.

Final Vote Count:

Simbo 1 - Danny (1450)
Julio 1 - hoops (1701)
hoops 2 - CR (1643) CF (1732)
dubb 5 - saldana (1486) Abe (1514) Chubby (1636) Simbo (1697)
Danny 8 - Shiggles (1624) JAG (1799) LSG (1802) Autumn (1803) brit (1804) dubb (1814) Zinto (1817) Julio (1836)


Locations

Building A:
Warehouse 4 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Warehouse 5 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Water Supply – 16 units (Enough reserves for just under 1 day at current consumption)
Crystilium Supply – 64 units (at least 20 required for lift-off)

Slave Pens Fully Operational
Slave Pen 1 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 2 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 3 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 4 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 5 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present

Building B:
Power Facilities Undamaged
Power Facility 1 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building B
Power Facility 2 3 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building C
Power Facility 3 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building D
Power Facility 4 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Security Fences
Power Facility 5 5 cycles required for conversion
Back-up

Water Plant Fully Operational 7 cycles required for conversion
Producing enough water for all Survivors each day

Building C:
Security HQ Operational 2 cycles required for conversion

Armory Operational 4 cycles required for conversion
18 phasers accounted for

Brig No power; Inaccessible 4 cycles required for conversion
No crew being held

Building D:
Crew Quarters Partially Operational; 13 sleeping berths 5 cycles required for conversion

Medical Facilities Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion

Scientists’ Lab Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion

Peremiter Fence
Fully Operational

Ship
Warehouse 1 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 2 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 3 Converted Inaccessible
Officers’ Offices Fully Operational Converted


The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG
First Officer - Autumn
Second Officer - Lonestargirl
Security Chief - Packerfantic
Ensign - Zinto

Chief Engineer - hoopsguy Exhausted
Engineers
Crimson
Darth
Simbo

Medical Staff
Doctor - saldana
Medic - Shiggles

Security Staff
Slavemaster - Chubby Exhausted
Gally Master - Julio Exhausted
Security Crewman - Chief Rum
Security Crewman - dubb Exhausted

Scientists
Schmidty
britrock Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent Exhausted

Slaves
20 slaves accounted for

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR[/color
Danny- Lynched Day 3 SURVIVOR


[color=red]Night 3 has begun

[hoopsguy]

That sucked. Everything seemed to take 50% longer when I was trying to push to get back here. Would really have liked to be part of that conversation.

Julio, is there any reason not to share your psychic results right this second? I'm very surprised Dubb was the only person pushing you on this point.

Crimson, I would certainly look for anything you can get on Julio for an empath scan and have that order ready to send into BK.

[hoopsguy]

And the "That Sucked" comment above was before actually getting to read the post that Danny was a survivor.

[Autumn]

Looks like someone failed to work on the crew quarters?

[Autumn]

Sorry Danny, you didn't seem yourself this game.

[Autumn]

Can we get some confirmation in the thread about these orders going through:

Hoopsguy
Simbo Klice
Chubby

It looks like either HOopsguy or Simbo didn't do their work.

[Abe Sargent]

How is there six pages in three hours?

[britrock88]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's still plenty of meat on that bone. Now you take this home, throw it in a pot, add some broth, a potato. Baby, you've got a stew going.

CARL WEATHERS!!!

[Julio Riddols]

That sucked. Everything seemed to take 50% longer when I was trying to push to get back here. Would really have liked to be part of that conversation.

Julio, is there any reason not to share your psychic results right this second? I'm very surprised Dubb was the only person pushing you on this point.

Crimson, I would certainly look for anything you can get on Julio for an empath scan and have that order ready to send into BK.

Well, I didn't want to put another player in danger if I didn't have to. I have one finished scan result so far, and it came back on the good side of things. I had to scan twice to get it. If I see him on the bad end of a vote in the next night or two, I will be sure to alert you as to who that is.

[dubb93]

I've gotten pretty buff from pushing all these papers, Dubb.

Ok, that's fine. I've just heard better ideas than attacking what is basically the bodyguard. But go ahead, brah, your funeral not mine.

[Barkeep49]

Two players have contacted me about bowing out. There's a lead on 1 possible replacement but that might not be enough. If you know of a replacement (or could be that replacement) please contact me ASAP. THANKS

[JAG]

I think Simbo maybe didn't submit his order.

[Autumn]

Ok, that's fine. I've just heard better ideas than attacking what is basically the bodyguard. But go ahead, brah, your funeral not mine.

We all know you're just a glorified mall cop. Even when we give you the phaser it's not a real one.

[Chief Rum]

Well, I didn't want to put another player in danger if I didn't have to. I have one finished scan result so far, and it came back on the good side of things. I had to scan twice to get it. If I see him on the bad end of a vote in the next night or two, I will be sure to alert you as to who that is.

Julio, claiming a role to escape a lynch and not providing results to back it up es no muy bueno.

[Autumn]

Chief Rum, Simbo, and six slaves <s>walk into a bar</s> head down to the Crew Quarters to do some work.

He got it in.

[Autumn]

Hoops, you got some 'splainin' to do.

[Autumn]

Well, I didn't want to put another player in danger if I didn't have to. I have one finished scan result so far, and it came back on the good side of things. I had to scan twice to get it. If I see him on the bad end of a vote in the next night or two, I will be sure to alert you as to who that is.

Why wouldn't you just tell us?

[Julio Riddols]

Oh, and Schmidty, that thing I said about you sacrificing yourself was me wondering if you were basically telling us you didn't want to be in the game so we could vote you out. I'm still figuring out how these things work.

For everyone else, I will probably be the most erratic and harebrained dude in the bunch in almost any game I am involved in, at least until I acquire some innate sense of how to say what when. I honestly think all the stuff I have said up to now that wasn't just being silly was worth considering as an option. This is why I wait for orders and rely on others ideas and opinions to help guide me.

[Abe Sargent]

"I am not a spawn" is not allowed. BK's taking Abe lessons :P

Good job BK!!

[JAG]

We don't know for sure it was hoops though. If Simbo faked his order, then Chubby wouldn't have been allowed to use the slaves. But it looks like it has to be one of them.

[Julio Riddols]

Well, if it doesn't matter and everyone wants to know, Autumn is confirmed as an a-ok dude as of last night.

[Autumn]

"I am available to supervise down in the Crew Quarters for anyone who wants to do some honest labor today," Hoopsguy declares. Before heading down there you also notice that he's rerouted power from the backup Power Facility to the Perimeter Fence. This seems to have fixed, for the time being, any problems with the perimeter fence.

Seems both supervising orders were processed. Yet only 5 cycles were done. If one of the people supervised had faked it, there would be more than five. If Chubby faked it, there would be more than five. So it's looking like one of Hoops or Simbo faked it. Anyone have a better explanation?

[Julio Riddols]

He also has (at least) 2 secret roles apparently, which I had to confirm with barkeep as being a possibility.

[Autumn]

Oh, and Schmidty, that thing I said about you sacrificing yourself was me wondering if you were basically telling us you didn't want to be in the game so we could vote you out. I'm still figuring out how these things work.

For everyone else, I will probably be the most erratic and harebrained dude in the bunch in almost any game I am involved in, at least until I acquire some innate sense of how to say what when. I honestly think all the stuff I have said up to now that wasn't just being silly was worth considering as an option. This is why I wait for orders and rely on others ideas and opinions to help guide me.

It's understandable, Julio. I still think you could be bad, but ignoring that .... I got voted out constantly when I first started playing, because like you I tend to think out loud in thread. It will get you lynched a lot, but eventaully we'll know when you're being you and when you're being hairy.

[Julio Riddols]

And I feel like what hoops has been involved with so far has been mostly bad stuff. the brig is unable to be used, and now we have possible work completion issues where he was involved.

[JAG]

At least that's my interpretation of the rules:

Slave Master (1 AP per cycle)

Protect Slave Pens Night Only The Slave Master may guard the Slave Pens at night. If there is an attack he will receive a bonus, if armed. This is slightly less effective than regular protect.1 AP

Execute Slave Day or Night The Slave Master may choose a specific slave to be executed. That slave is immediately killed. 1 AP

Supervise Slaves Day or Night The Slave Master may choose to supervise the work of slaves along with an Engineer performing the Supervise Conversion action. The Slave Master may supervise an additional 4 slaves. 1 AP

I'm saying if Simbo did not actually supervise the slaves, then Chubby would not have been able to supervise slaves there by himself.

[CrimsonFox]

BK, do votes at 7:00 PM (PST) on the nose count? Cause I made one. It doesn't affect the result at all though.

[CrimsonFox]

I don't know why you killed Danny

[CrimsonFox]

no idea why he was a candidate

[Autumn]

He also has (at least) 2 secret roles apparently, which I had to confirm with barkeep as being a possibility.

?

Psychic May choose a player to study each night to attempt to learn their Secret role. The chance of finding out a role increases each consecutive night a player is scanned. Spawn are harder to scan than survivors.

Did you find out my Secret Role?

For the record, the fact that Julio "scanned" the one person whose secret role is public, is interesting ...

[Julio Riddols]

I'm doing my damnedest to play every game as close to the same as possible, but yeah. My processes are obviously very attractive to folks in a suspicious sort of way.

[Autumn]

At least that's my interpretation of the rules:



I'm saying if Simbo did not actually supervise the slaves, then Chubby would not have been able to supervise slaves there by himself.

I agree completely, JAG.

[Autumn]

no idea why he was a candidate

Because he was full of bad ideas?

[saldana]

i am honestly stunned...I HANDED YOU A SPAWN AND YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that might have been the worst lynch in any game i have ever played.

[Julio Riddols]

?



Did you find out my Secret Role?

For the record, the fact that Julio "scanned" the one person whose secret role is public, is interesting ...

Well, what is interesting is that I was told you had a different role.

Now things are getting interesting.

[hoopsguy]

Can we get some confirmation in the thread about these orders going through:

Hoopsguy
Simbo Klice
Chubby

It looks like either HOopsguy or Simbo didn't do their work.

I did mine - remember all the hue and cry around the gate this morning?

[Autumn]

i am honestly stunned...I HANDED YOU A SPAWN AND YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that might have been the worst lynch in any game i have ever played.

Where is the ...

:rolleyes:

oh there it is.

[CrimsonFox]

Because he was full of bad ideas?


Danny?
And really in this game I don't think anyone has had a grip on ALL the rules. I would lynch someone who is saying nothing over someone with ideas.

[Autumn]

Well, what is interesting is that I was told you had a different role.

Now things are getting interesting.

CF, this would be a great time to use your empath ability, if it exists.

[saldana]

i am totally beside myself with the ridiculousness of tonight.

[Autumn]

Although I wouldn't be surprised if CF confirms Julio's finding. CF is now trying to make a Danny vote look bad. Time to look back and see who voted DAnny ... oh, Autumn did!

[dubb93]

i am honestly stunned...I HANDED YOU A SPAWN AND YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that might have been the worst lynch in any game i have ever played.

Tis a bit harsh. They just want to see you cure me tomorrow. Man up, may they will stop calling you she if you do!

[Autumn]

Danny?
And really in this game I don't think anyone has had a grip on ALL the rules. I would lynch someone who is saying nothing over someone with ideas.

I'm not saying I voted him becuase he didn't understand rules or talked too much. I'm saying I voted him because the ideas he suggested seemed more friendly to Spawn than Survivors.

CF, who exactly were you promoting in the lynch, other than Dubb? Obviously Dubb is a nice safe target, and it's easy to say you'd vote him and then pick apart the actual vote.

[dubb93]

Did CF really "use" his empath ability on pot roast and something everyone involved in agreed upon?

[Danny]

Good job getting me lynched after I left lol. Good luck to no one, I hope you all die a miserable death on this planet!

[hoopsguy]

Dubb, Saldana isn't going to check you out, barring a JAG order. And I don't see that coming.

[Autumn]

Well, in case it's not obvious: I do not have two separate secret roles, and the secret role I do have is Vigilante. Julio appears to be trying to paint me as the next lynch. I can't think of any non-Spawn reason this would happen.

[Autumn]

Good job getting me lynched after I left lol. Good luck to no one, I hope you all die a miserable death on this planet!

We're trying!

[Julio Riddols]

Dude, unless barkeep made a mistake telling me your role, then he told me something different and you might indeed be up for a lynch. Why would I say you were ok if I was trying to get you lynched?

[Autumn]

So we have some good leads here. Julio appears to be outing himself. Either Simbo or Hoops appears to have faked their work. And frankly I think CF smells bad (no offense!).

[dubb93]

Dubb, Saldana isn't going to check you out, barring a JAG order. And I don't see that coming.

Fair enough. Don't cry to me when I smash shit and kill someone. I gave you the chance to stop me before I got started.

[Julio Riddols]

I even asked him if it was possible to have 2 secret roles, to which he replied that it was. I thought you had 2 roles.

[Autumn]

Dude, unless barkeep made a mistake telling me your role, then he told me something different and you might indeed be up for a lynch. Why would I say you were ok if I was trying to get you lynched?

:rolleyes:

I need a bookmark to this.

[Abe Sargent]

Man I wish I had been here, because I would have pushed like hell to have gotten dubb lynched. All of thois crap about waiting is bs. Don't double guess yourself, you have a wolf or a cub you TAKE IT. Now we just hope we get lucky or whatever.

[Autumn]

Fair enough. Don't cry to me when I smash shit and kill someone. I gave you the chance to stop me before I got started.

Dubb's secret role is Hulk.

[hoopsguy]

Julio's info around the empath role - both the terribly late reveal under duress + still being coy with the info now - makes me feel even better about the vote I put earlier.

I'm certainly willing to re-evaluate as new info comes out but if I had a Day 4 vote right now, knowing that Dubb was night-whacked, it would be Julio without a whole lot of second thoughts.

[saldana]

Dubb, Saldana isn't going to check you out, barring a JAG order. And I don't see that coming.

at this point, i am not gonna scan anyone...doesnt matter, you all will just vote for someone else anyway..why should i risk myself

[Autumn]

Man I wish I had been here, because I would have pushed like hell to have gotten dubb lynched. All of thois crap about waiting is bs. Don't double guess yourself, you have a wolf or a cub you TAKE IT. Now we just hope we get lucky or whatever.

We are not relying on luck.

[CrimsonFox]

Autumn if you don't kill dubb tonight you are dead in the morning. COmpletely dead!

[hoopsguy]

So we have some good leads here. Julio appears to be outing himself. Either Simbo or Hoops appears to have faked their work. And frankly I think CF smells bad (no offense!).

I would have had to half-fake it - we all saw the (inadvertant) repair on the fence.

[Julio Riddols]

Ok everyone, I was told his role was "Avenger" not Vigilante.

[Autumn]

Well I can tell you that either I have a secret role I don't know about, or Barkeep's drunk, or Julio's lying. Or his ability doesn't work very well.

[Autumn]

I would have had to half-fake it - we all saw the (inadvertant) repair on the fence.

Well I think those are separate jobs, so that doesn't mean much.

[Barkeep49]

"I am not a spawn" is not allowed. BK's taking Abe lessons :P

Good job BK!!

Yawl know I was the first one to use an empath around here right :)?

[dubb93]

Well I'm not getting night whacked....

[saldana]

barkeep...can i opt to stay awake and get a bonus on my roll if attacked by doing so, or do i have to sleep since i have no night action?

[hoopsguy]

at this point, i am not gonna scan anyone...doesnt matter, you all will just vote for someone else anyway..why should i risk myself

This strategy is rich and compelling :rolleyes:

Would we have been hearing the same gnashing of teeth if we had hit a roled spawn with the lynch?

[Julio Riddols]

Now, either Barkeep somehow told me the wrong info, or I somehow got the wrong answer and barkeep meant to tell me that Autumn was an Avenger.. But All this stuff Autumn is saying now strikes me as odd, because I thought I was helping by telling everyone he was a good guy.

I don't know what the deal is.

[Autumn]

barkeep...can i opt to stay awake and get a bonus on my roll if attacked by doing so, or do i have to sleep since i have no night action?

Stay awake is an available action.

[Barkeep49]

BK, do votes at 7:00 PM (PST) on the nose count? Cause I made one. It doesn't affect the result at all though.

No I'm a :59er

[hoopsguy]

OK - since it seems like I'm going to get some heat ... would people like for me to work tonight on buildings (and thus stay exhausted) or get some rest and not be exhausted tomorrow morning?

[JAG]

Julio's info around the empath role - both the terribly late reveal under duress + still being coy with the info now - makes me feel even better about the vote I put earlier.

I'm certainly willing to re-evaluate as new info comes out but if I had a Day 4 vote right now, knowing that Dubb was night-whacked, it would be Julio without a whole lot of second thoughts.

If you're a villager, you should vote Simbo because you know he faked his work.

[Autumn]

I had definitely hoped we could get work done tonight, and be ready to launch tomorrow night. Obviously we need five more cycles on the crew's quarters, and then to finish the power facility 2 for three more.

[JAG]

Ok, I'm taking a break for the night. Later all.

[Julio Riddols]

If you're a villager, you should vote Simbo because you know he faked his work.

I agree with this.

[CrimsonFox]

OK - since it seems like I'm going to get some heat ... would people like for me to work tonight on buildings (and thus stay exhausted) or get some rest and not be exhausted tomorrow morning?

screw it. Hoops I'll work with you on something. YOu can bite me or sp0wn me or whatever it is you do.
but i'll help convert something

[Autumn]

If you two work on the crew's quarters they'll be finished.

[Autumn]

I could order Simbo to lead a team of slaves tonight and work. If he wants to fake that, fantastic.

[Autumn]

Oh can't do that at night actually, nevermind.

[Barkeep49]

barkeep...can i opt to stay awake and get a bonus on my roll if attacked by doing so, or do i have to sleep since i have no night action?
Staying awake is an option

[CrimsonFox]

I'm doing my damnedest to play every game as close to the same as possible, but yeah. My processes are obviously very attractive to folks in a suspicious sort of way.

don't worry about that. PPeople will always come up with some BS reason to accuse you of stuff. If they don't know how you play and start making up things like "he usually does this" it usually means they are wolves.

[hoopsguy]

If you're a villager, you should vote Simbo because you know he faked his work.

I still want to review the results to make sure that is a good conclusion - I assume it is, as several logical players have reached it. But yeah, 100% accurate statement if the choices are me vs Simbo (work faked, no other options).

[hoopsguy]

If you two work on the crew's quarters they'll be finished.

Done, I'll work on it with Crimson.

[Shiggles]

Oh man. Ok, so reasons for voting danny, he was "seen by dubb" and he has been rubbing me wrong since he started taking command when he was present. I'll have to expand more when i have time when i get back from choir tonight, ill do some more posting. Lots of meat to go through, comments will be applied tonight. Apologies to Mr. danny, cause i did lead that vote. I shall perform a burial ritual to ward off the snakes and thingies from eating out the back of his eyes, "AHHH SIMBAINYAAA......" *starts singing lion king theme music for effect, and eyes glaze over for a bit...*

[Julio Riddols]

I'm really confused because I see nothing in the rules that gives anyone the ability of giving me a false read or gives me the possibility of getting a false read when I use my ability.

I don't know how my statements and Autumns statements regarding his role can coexist unless there is an unwritten rule, and the only character that has unwritten rules is the spawn overlord. If revived, he gives the spawn "Certain Advantages" to quote the rules.

[CrimsonFox]

hoops before you send in an order, tell me what we are both going to do.

[hoopsguy]

I believe BK has had multiple hidden roles on people in previous Spawn games (we should be able to verify this by digging through threads) but I don't think they were major ones ... just ones that were assigned to multiple people, like not being able to be converted on away missions or something like that. Vigilante is obviously a pretty major role, Avenger maybe less so. Still, somewhat hard to swallow this.

[hoopsguy]

hoops before you send in an order, tell me what we are both going to do.

Already sent it in, will once again quote my own PM:

Title: Night 3 actions
"Work on Crew's Quarters, hopefully supervising CrimsonFox."

[CrimsonFox]

Ok everyone, I was told his role was "Avenger" not Vigilante.

Hear ye hear ye...this statement came back as TRUE

[CrimsonFox]

WHich means Autumn has no kill ability tonight if he is avenger and not vigilante.

[CrimsonFox]

or is spawn and lying about everything

[CrimsonFox]

and I am out of empath scans so have no reason to be NKed

[Julio Riddols]

Ok, its been clarified to me now, apparently there was a mistake. Autumn is in fact a vigilante. Hopefully he gets his work done tonight.

[dubb93]

Lawl

[Julio Riddols]

but I did learn that it IS possible to have 2 secret roles, although apparently Autumn doesn't have 2.

[CrimsonFox]

okay then. I take that back. Please please PLEASE kill me.

[dubb93]

Worst. Spawn. Ever

Seriously you guys got to get organized.

[CrimsonFox]

hoops, orders sent.

[Julio Riddols]

Lets turn the friggin' tide and get things right from here on out.

[hoopsguy]

Let me just offer that if there is someone out there who has the empath role that is not Crimson Fox that tomorrow evening after lynch would be a really good time to turn up the heat on him.

[CrimsonFox]

This is terrible.

[Autumn]

You've got to be kidding me.

[Autumn]

Either CF has the worst luck and timing ever, or he's a very crafty Spawn.

[Chief Rum]

Wait, did that just happen?

[CrimsonFox]

I have no idea. I scanned a statement and now find that statement seems to be a GM mistake. So I don't know what ruling will happen based on this.

[Chief Rum]

Either CF has the worst luck and timing ever, or he's a very crafty Spawn.

Not very crafty if I'm sitting here thinking he's a Spawn.

[Autumn]

I would also like one Engineer to supervise a team of slaves and convert the rest of Power Facility 2 tonight. Then Hoops can reroute the power from the backup to the Facility 2 functions.

[Julio Riddols]

Well, so we're down an empathy scan. Mistakes can be made, it says so in the gameplay warning.

[dubb93]

Seriously, use 2morrow to cure me and lynch CF. it's a perfect win/win deathblow to the spawn.

[Chief Rum]

I have no idea. I scanned a statement and now find that statement seems to be a GM mistake. So I don't know what ruling will happen based on this.

I'm hope BK confirms he made a mistake. Cuz right now it looks like you and Julio are in cahoots.

[hoopsguy]

I would also like one Engineer to supervise a team of slaves and convert the rest of Power Facility 2 tonight. Then Hoops can reroute the power from the backup to the Facility 2 functions.

Would the expectation be that i reroute power as part of my actions tonight? If so, I'll update the orders accordingly. If not, then I assume that is for tomorrow after the other team completes the facility?

[CrimsonFox]

Already sent it in, will once again quote my own PM:

Title: Night 3 actions
"Work on Crew's Quarters, hopefully supervising CrimsonFox."


and can you please stop doing that? Please stop sending in orders before we all coordinate and are SURE of what work needs done, if we need slaves, and what shift the work needs done for

[CrimsonFox]

Maybe autumn should just kill me tonight instead. Go ahead and do that.

[Julio Riddols]

I'm also fairly certain CF is not a spawn. He is right about the statement above being true, because in barkeeps PM to me he did say Autumn was an avenger. I did ask if it was possible to have 2 roles after I saw Autumn claimed something else, and was told that was possible, so unfortunately, I didn't know until a bit ago that the information I was given was incorrect. This, I think, clear myself, Crimson and Autumn. Now we just need to figure shit out today and start knocking spawn off one at a time.

[Chief Rum]

I'm also fairly certain CF is not a spawn. He is right about the statement above being true, because in barkeeps PM to me he did say Autumn was an avenger. I did ask if it was possible to have 2 roles after I saw Autumn claimed something else, and was told that was possible, so unfortunately, I didn't know until a bit ago that the information I was given was incorrect. This, I think, clear myself, Crimson and Autumn. Now we just need to figure shit out today and start knocking spawn off one at a time.

Sorry, Julio, until BK himself cones here and confirms an error, I can't just accept your word and CF's word. It's very suspicious.

[Julio Riddols]

I mean even if Barkeep doesn't verify this, which he hopefully will, this is one hell of a crazy plot to put in place, IMO. I highly doubt our being in cahoots would result in such an elaborate hoax.

[Autumn]

Would the expectation be that i reroute power as part of my actions tonight? If so, I'll update the orders accordingly. If not, then I assume that is for tomorrow after the other team completes the facility?

I'm not sure how the timing of work during the night happens. We would ideally want you to reroute the power as soon as some other engineer converts the facility. If you can do a conditional like that, great. If not, maybe just wait until morning. I don't think anything gets posted until deadline at night anyway. But we should double check what Facility 2 pwoers and if we're screwing ourselves that way.

[Julio Riddols]

I mean we would have had to orchestrate the votes going on me, both empathy scans would have been faked, and then we would come out and say barkeep made a mistake?? I wouldn't even consider trying to get something like that to work.

[Julio Riddols]

And we both would have had to fake reveal, too.

[Julio Riddols]

If someone pitched an idea like that to me, I would have wanted no part of it.

[Autumn]

I'm off for the night.

Darth Vilus, or Simbo Klice, if either of you get on tonight, and the other hasn't already done so, please lead a team of 3 slaves to work on Power Facility 2. post that you are doing it in the thread so that you don't duplicate.

And Dubb, after my little nap, I'll be to visit you.

[Julio Riddols]

I guess I am going to turn in, but I think we have good ground to stand on here and make a push back. I think we can get a spawn tonight.

[hoopsguy]

Well, hopefully Autumn gets a spawnling tonight.

[hoopsguy]

Beyond that, tough to bag a spawn during the night phase.

[Julio Riddols]

Beyond that, tough to bag a spawn during the night phase.

Well, I mean tomorrow night.

[Simbo Klice]

Whoa, stuff got crazy. I'm not even sure what the deal is with the faked work, why does the building say partially operational if it was faked? Wouldn't that be some sort of tampering, or is it just that the work didn't get finished? All I know is me or hoops are probably being set up here, that's just too obvious of a thing.

[Simbo Klice]

Ok, Power Facility 2 it is.

[CrimsonFox]

Julio, make us some food and lots of it. Hoops and I have a shitton of work to do tonight.

[hoopsguy]

Well, my order for that part was "supervise (hopefully 5) people in crew quarters" - if I didn't have people to supervise maybe that could lead to us not getting the number. I haven't gone through the thread looking for everyone who could/should have joined in to help us get the number but my order clearly called for me to work on that building and I have zero reason to fake work.

[CrimsonFox]

I'm hope BK confirms he made a mistake. Cuz right now it looks like you and Julio are in cahoots.

I can't wrap my head around this. Why in the hell would I link myself to julio when everyone wants to vote for him.

Pardon my french, This sounds really dumb.

[CrimsonFox]

i am honestly stunned...I HANDED YOU A SPAWN AND YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that might have been the worst lynch in any game i have ever played.


it's a new game nowadays, sal. you see we FIND the wolves. And then let them go. Meanwhile we kill humans that are trying to kill wolves. We call it "The Environmentalist Game"

[CrimsonFox]

incidently autumn, you were one of the biggest ones that DEMANDED people not vote for confirmed wolf dubb. And went for julio and then went for danny. I did not go for danny. Only other person I wanted to vote for was hoops, but dubb was who I really think should have been lynched mainly because I don't trust you at all.

[CrimsonFox]

Zinto, if you and your spawn buddies want to convert me tonight, it's cool. GO ahead.