WW CXLIX SPAWN IV - GAME OVER (Post 3845)

[CrimsonFox]

what?

[Danny]

You're not a very good empath if you are not spawn aware

[JAG]

Yeah technically we could have DV and Chubby combine for 5 conversion units on something. That would assume DV and Chubby will log in sometime in the next 3 hours. Also if we converted another power facility we would lose power to the medical / science buildings or to the water replicator, neither of which I'm sure would be all that great. If DV logs on and converts the rest of facility 2, we should be in pretty good shape going into Monday with what we need to convert to get out of here within 24 hrs.

[JAG]

what?

Here:

Captain (Rank 1) (3 AP per cycle)

Give Order: Day Only The captain may give a simple one step order to any crew member to perform a certain action that is with-in their ability to perform and they have the available action points. The captain may also rescind, or modify, the orders of any other officer and may be given in advance (Tomorrow you will do X). The captain may not order anyone to vote in a particular way. 1 AP

[JAG]

Maybe size 7 wasn't a great idea...

[Barkeep49]

great quiet again. I'll be glad when this game is over. I am getting weary of this real time dance.

Just a reminder when the night cycle ends only voting will be allowed until Monday morning, at which time the "real time" nature of the game will resume.

[CrimsonFox]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

no big enough. I can't see it yet.

[CrimsonFox]

yup BK I remember dat

[Danny]

CAPTAIN JAG SPARROW WANTS TO KNOW WHERE THE RUM IS

[CrimsonFox]

Yes Jag thank you for pointing that out. Good points indeed. Danny I know. I'm a failure. Please pass the rum.

[CrimsonFox]

CAPTAIN JAG SPARROW WANTS TO KNOW WHERE THE RUM IS

or his towel

[Danny]

Captain Jag, this is your fault. I didn't even know we could change the font size before now.

[CrimsonFox]

so if we convert the securities power shiggles will be stuck in the brig permanently if its shut down right?

and if the armory is unpowered then we can't give out guns right? or do we even need guns anymore? do we have security staff left?

[CrimsonFox]

lookj out danny is loose with fonts and sizes!

[Danny]

NOW ITS TIME FOR FUN

[JAG]

so if we convert the securities power shiggles will be stuck in the brig permanently if its shut down right?

and if the armory is unpowered then we can't give out guns right? or do we even need guns anymore? do we have security staff left?

I don't know the answer to that (re: Shiggles). I guess it's possible if we cut power to the brig he would be freed. We for sure can't convert it to the ship while he's in it, I remember reading that.

BK, if we cut power to the brig, are all prisoners released?

[Barkeep49]

I don't know the answer to that (re: Shiggles). I guess it's possible if we cut power to the brig he would be freed. We for sure can't convert it to the ship while he's in it, I remember reading that.

BK, if we cut power to the brig, are all prisoners released?
Yes.

[CrimsonFox]

hmmm it doesn't mention the effects of an unpowered brig in da rulez.

[CrimsonFox]

Yes.

ack not good.

[Danny]

I still dont understand the working thing, so we need to convert power facilities? Then we lose access to something? Do we have to convert power facilities?

[CrimsonFox]

yes we have to convert power before we take off. FOUR of them. but when we unplug them from buildings on the planet, most of those buildings will not work on the planet (without power). We then have to convert those buildings to the ship to get them to work again. (as long as there are FOUR power things on the ship FOUR. yes. that's a lot and that's the point.

[Danny]

So the idea is to cut power and convert on the same day in order to not lose functionality.

[CrimsonFox]

it's impossible to convert EVERYTHING in one day tho. engineers can supervise slave or other people. but at this point we don't have enough.,

[hoopsguy]

I was already Empathic hoops. I wouldn't think I could be spawnaware too. could I?

Probably only BK can answer that one. While I'm pretty sure folks have had two secret roles in the past, I don't expect that combo would be allowed.

[CrimsonFox]

the numbers danny

hoops by himself 3
me or dv by ourselves 2
hoops + me or DV 6
any eng + 6 slaves = 3
and chubby + 4 alves = 2 more but only if an eng issupervising.

[hoopsguy]

Off for a couple of hours.

[CrimsonFox]

maybe i can be a good sandwich maker. I want that role.

[JAG]

Ok, so maybe we don't want DV to convert facility 2 then. Maybe do a partial conversion on something else, I don't know.

[Danny]

Wow, so we are in really good shape and should be able to get off this planet soon.

[CrimsonFox]

not as such because we still have to move a lot of buildings AND repair everything that's broken :P repairing is a slow slow process.

[CrimsonFox]

oh never mind. all that's damaged is the crew quarters but we can still lift off without that being at full. All we need is the power and water plant.
Everything else is optional. We'll probably want the medbay and maybe another warehouse to hold water/crystals?
brig/armory maybe? not sure

[Danny]

We should calculate it out as needed, cause if we can liftoff and staying another day only has minimal benefit we should go for it and let any more spawn converts happen

[JAG]

Like this?

So here's what else we have to convert prior to lift off:

4 of 5 power facilities: 1 of these only requires 2 more cycles to complete and one should be completed by DV and Chubby, leaving us with 12 total cycles to complete here.

Water replicator: Requires 7 cycles of work to complete.

Those are the only required things we have left to convert, so a total of 19 cycles of conversion work.

Other potentially useful buildings to convert depending on what are spawn / spawnling situation looks like:

Medical: Requires 4 cycles to convert, no doctor examinations without this building

Science Lab: Requires 2 cycles to convert, no research or trainer training without this building (and no spawn scanner telling us how many spawn there are possibly?)

Security HQ: Requires 2 cycles to convert, prevents attacks on crew quarters / armory while manned, armory will not function without it.

Armory: Requires 4 cycles to convert, allows distribution of 5 phasers while on the ship to be used in self-defense.


I left out the brig, slave pens, and two spare warehouses as though they could be useful, they aren't essential and we probably don't want to spend the extra time converting them. The other optional buildings I think are at least worth consideration.

[Danny]

So looks like we are here for a couple more days then.

[Barkeep49]

2 more down. The bodies of two of your doctors (or one doctor and 1 would be doctor as the case may be), Chief Rum & saldana are found slain come morning roll call. This attack was not the only activity last night either.

hoopsguy & CrimsonFox worked on Power Facility 4, while DV applied his trade to Power Facility 2. Julio was spotted in the Security HQ.

Were any of these people responsible for the attack? Or did it come from somewhere else? There is some optimism in the air but the mounting dead have taken their toll.

Locations

Building A:
Warehouse 4 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Warehouse 5 7 cycles required for conversion
33 / 40 units filled
Water Supply – 17 units Enough for about 1.5 days at present rate of consumption
Crystilium Supply – 56 units (at least 20 required for lift-off)

Slave Pens Fully Operational
Slave Pen 1 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 2 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 3 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 4 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 5 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present

Building B:
Power Facilities Fully Operational
Power Facility 1 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building B
Power Facility 3 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building D

Water Plant Fully Operational 7 cycles required for conversion
Producing enough water for all Survivors each day

Building C:
Security HQ Unpoweredl 2 cycles required for conversion

Armory Unpoweredl 4 cycles required for conversion
18 phasers accounted for

Brig Unpoweredl 4 cycles required for conversion


Building D:

Medical Facilities Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion

Scientists’ Lab Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion
2 Spawn Detected
2 Engineer equivalent tools present

Peremiter Fence
Offline

Ship
Warehouse 1 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 2 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 3 Converted Inaccessible

Officers’ Offices Fully Operational Converted
Crew Quarters Damaged; 9 sleeping berths; 11 cycles to repair Converted

Power Facility 2 Converted
Power Facility 4 Converted
Power Facility 5 Converted

The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG
First Officer - Lonestargirl
Second Officer - Danny

Chief Engineer - hoopsguy Exhausted
Engineers
Crimson Exhausted
Darth Exhausted

Medical Staff
Doctor - Shiggles

Security Staff
Slavemaster - Chubby
Sergeant-at-Arms - Julio Exhausted

Scientists
GoldenEagle
britrock
Trainer - Abe Sargent

Slaves
20 slaves accounted for

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR
Danny- Lynched Day 3 SURVIVOR
Autumn Killed Night 3 SURVIVOR
dubb Killed Night 3 SPAWN
Simbo Klice Lynched Day 4 SCRYING SPAWN
Zinto Lynched Day 5 SPAWN QUEEN
saldana Killed Night 5 SURVIVOR
Chief Rum Killed Night 6 SURVIVOR

Day 6 has begun; Voting only until Monday morning

[Danny]

Well that sucks. Is there anyway shigella could have made a kill from brig? If not it appears shiggles is not one of the two detected spawn. I don't recall any wy for one spawn to make two killings.

[Danny]

Also I asked this before but any chance an unaware spawn doesn't show on spawn count?

[JAG]

Yes, that means Shiggles is not spawn as far as I can tell.

[JAG]

Also I asked this before but any chance an unaware spawn doesn't show on spawn count?

I can't say for sure, but I wouldn't think that would be the case. That roles says that they're unaware during the day but become spawn at night and such. I think we're dealing with no more than 2 currently and more than likely 1 of them was a starting spawn. That means that all the people saldana scanned are not among the possibilities for that particular spawn (the other mutated one could be anyone though).

So that means the starting spawn is not:

JAG
Packer / Danny2
(dubb, though obviously dead)
hoops

We should also be able to eliminate those who had villager secret roles which include myself again as duplicant, Julio as psychic, CrimsonFox as empath (it's a role that could be retained as a spawn role but not one they would have started with). Shiggles can't be spawn because there were two kills last night that he didn't take part in.

So that leaves:

LSG
Darth
GE
Britrock
Abe
Chubby

As possibilities for the starting spawn.

[Chubby]

well I clear up 2 names on that list:

myself, chief rum and GE (well, Schmidty and now GE) were all in an Absolute Trust group. none of us have become spawn or spanlings (we'd be notified)

CR slyly trusting me when I was up for vote was due to this, me saying a scan of GE would be a waste was another example.

CR is dead which is what made me come forward now.

[Chubby]

my experience mirrored CR's in that it was slowly revealed over the 1st several nights getting a little more specific each time before finally naming the other members.

[JAG]

well I clear up 2 names on that list:

myself, chief rum and GE (well, Schmidty and now GE) were all in an Absolute Trust group. none of us have become spawn or spanlings (we'd be notified)

CR slyly trusting me when I was up for vote was due to this, me saying a scan of GE would be a waste was another example.

CR is dead which is what made me come forward now.

I strongly suspected that you and CR were absolute trust based on his comment from that day, being able to add GE as well is great.

[Chubby]

I strongly suspected that you and CR were absolute trust based on his comment from that day, being able to add GE as well is great.

yeah, I figured at this point it was just better to come out with it than try hinting at it and maybe some people missing it.

[JAG]

So LSG, Darth, Abe, or Britrock for a very likely starting spawn.

[Chubby]

my questions are: can we get the brig working, how many can it hold? if we can get it up and running, is there enough space to place all/most the possibles into it?

[LoneStarGirl]

So we have two spawn left, and I really thought Chief was one of them.

I know I am probably in everybody's distrust group, but I have no problem being scanned.

Also, I dont have an issue being made a doctor (I know that is a demotion) and letting Danny take over First Officer. He would do a much better job and be a better Captain if Jag ever dies.

[Chubby]

crap it seems the power for the brig is converted?

[Chubby]

i'd think scans would be a bad idea, not likely any spawnling attacks last night so that would mean doctor death?

[JAG]

The power being lost to the brig is perfect because it means Shiggles is free and can examine someone Chubby.

[Chubby]

The power being lost to the brig is perfect because it means Shiggles is free and can examine someone Chubby.

ahh true but as I just mentioned if he examines a Spawn will he die? two villager deaths means it's unlikely someone was infected last night doesnt it?

[Chubby]

didnt abe and brit do something day/night 1? could they be a starter and an infected that has matured?

[JAG]

Correct, there are the same number of spawn now as there were last night. They did two attacks because two people are dead, so they didn't do their mutating attack.

[Chubby]

just to get a vote in and start up some convo

vote abe

[Abe Sargent]

didnt abe and brit do something day/night 1? could they be a starter and an infected that has matured?

We trained, a mechanic in the game, just like all of the other mechanics in the game, such as guarding and so forth.

[hoopsguy]

Keep in mind, people could have been exposed last night that were out working - so there might still be an emerging spawn even with two attacks/deaths.

Also, I think we can safely assume that they did not create a new Spawn Queen last night, given the 2:2 ratio of spawn detected/kills.

[hoopsguy]

I think it is probably time to bring out the vote charts again, with the wealth of new info that we've got.

[JAG]

I'll let you fire those up, I'm going to sort out what we should do with conversions today.

[hoopsguy]

So I still don't know what my secret role is for this game. Which means that I've got it pretty much narrowed down to a small group of options, all of which seem to be pretty positive for the village.

Not: Absolute Trust, Duplicant, Empathic, Gut Feeling (I had 4 votes at one point, right?), Miracle Worker, Psychic, Slayer, Vigilante

Possible:
- Avenger (have final vote counts been published officially by BK? If not, how would I track this?
- Incorruptible (wondering if this would apply to exposure outside as well? BK?)
- Light Sleeper
- Spawn Aware (the one where I can do some level of tracking to see if it might be applicable)

[Barkeep49]

- Incorruptible (wondering if this would apply to exposure outside as well? BK?)


Yes Incorruptible applies to outside exposure as well.

[Barkeep49]

- Avenger (have final vote counts been published officially by BK? If not, how would I track this?


I've been sloppy about this. I will pull them together sometime today or tomorrow. Sorry about that.

[hoopsguy]

Thanks, BK ... just trying to work through something that has been on my mind for a couple of days now.

[JAG]

If we do not convert the science lab and the ship lifts off, do we still keep our scanner and engineering tools?

[JAG]

Can a scientist explain how the engineering tools are distributed?

[Abe Sargent]

I need to make someone else a doctor I think, but with just two security guys, can we afford to do that?

What I can do is make a security guy a doctor to tomorrow, and then make myself or a scientist a security guy the following day.

[Abe Sargent]

or I could do it in reverse order, I could make a scientist a security for tomorrow and then security to doctor the next day

[Barkeep49]

If we do not convert the science lab and the ship lifts off, do we still keep our scanner and engineering tools?

No.

[JAG]

In that case, I'm adding the lab to our 'required' buildings because those things should be of high value to us the rest of the game and I can't see why we would choose to leave them behind.

[Julio Riddols]

Well, I couldn't stay in the security HQ the whole night last night because the work that was being done forced me out, so I am not entirely sure how much use it would be to have another security guy..

I'm the gun distributor guy now though, right? I might need to go back and re-read stuff since I was pretty plastered last night when I was in here briefly.

[Julio Riddols]

Ok, so I am the gun handler for now. We need to find 4 people that I won't be giving guns to. I want everyone else to be armed to the teeth.

[Julio Riddols]

Or if we're confident, we can narrow it down to 2 people.

[Julio Riddols]

But if we can put the 4 we're worried about in the brig, I'll just hand out guns to the good folks.

[Julio Riddols]

Good folks meaning the ones we're really sure of.

[Chubby]

huh? armory is unpowered so no phasers to anyone I don't think and why would the work have forced you from security hq?

[CrimsonFox]

damniot that means dv is a spawn and let out shiggles!

[CrimsonFox]

DV has missed most nights and he just happens to do something LAST night? and to something he didn't say he was going to do?
And something we deicded we shouldn't do. No, he did it to let out shiggles and together they killed the docs. That is what i think.

[CrimsonFox]

I would guess that spawn can both do a vilalger activity AND do a spawn action.

Chubby,m why are those people clear. What ability do you have?

[Julio Riddols]

DV has missed most nights and he just happens to do something LAST night? and to something he didn't say he was going to do?
And something we deicded we shouldn't do. No, he did it to let out shiggles and together they killed the docs. That is what i think.

Interesting.

Also, didn't notice the stuff about the gun closet. Lame.

I think we need to put those guys at the top of the lynch list.

[Julio Riddols]

As far as the work moving me out of security HQ, that's basically a synopsis of what I was told happened to me last night.

[Chubby]

I would guess that spawn can both do a vilalger activity AND do a spawn action.

Chubby,m why are those people clear. What ability do you have?

Absolute trust with chief rum and schmidty/goldeneagle. I think I talked about it last page (in car on phone)

[CrimsonFox]

shiggles I guarantee is a spawn. Just go read all his posts from yesterday. Plus that is the reason he didn't make a scan the day before even though the medbay was fixed. sal made a scan.

[CrimsonFox]

VOTE SHIGGLES

[Abe Sargent]

Vote Shiggles

I'm in

[Shiggles]

shiggles I guarantee is a spawn. Just go read all his posts from yesterday. Plus that is the reason he didn't make a scan the day before even though the medbay was fixed. sal made a scan.


Lol head to head time, you really like that finger pointing dont you CF?

Would like to point out i who i trust. Jag is still leading strong (but im not doing the math) so i trust him.

I am (although ive been doing a crappy job about utilizing my ability) spawn aware after day 1 or whenever it was handed out, so it leads me to believe abe is innocent, and i had an exposure to britrock after i got it, but its only a chance, ive been 1 on 1 with abe training twice, so hes probably clean.

The reason, ill state again, why i didnt scan anyone when the medical bay was "fixed" was because we could only get 1 scan in, saldana scanned hoops i believe, so i was stuck with an action point, and no use for it, they didnt even take me on the water gathering mission where i hoped to go, but couldnt express my desire to go and be in a group setting more eloquently, like i said, been doin a lousy job with my power lol.

That last night is absolutely crazy, i thought one of them woulda been spawnling and not able to attack or somethin? losing two doctors sucksssss.

Mr. Jag, ill designate a scan to whomever you wish, although id suggest either engineer, because i suspect them both to be dirty now. After all, wouldnt that be a good spawn plan? take out the engineers because they are required for completion/repairs/winning?

Hooops was cleared by saldana though, and we know he was not spawn, that clears Jag, and packer/danny2 as well. Unless converting happened afterwords, lemme look at the exhausted list. Which, crimson, i would like to point out, i actually got SLEEP last night ;-)

Vote CrimsonFox

^.^

[Shiggles]

Course, we did have two attacks and no sign of defense, so Julio yes you are distrusted, what were you doing last night? Seems you should have been able to guard or see something

[Shiggles]

Assuming both engineers completed work as stated, and no further damage, both doctors will be able to use the facility tomorrow.


There ya go CF, 2320, night before we lynched Simbo, then Zinto took us out for a morning jog the next morning, then i got chucked in the brig, so today i should have a scan to use.

Im tryin to think though, i dont think your necessarily spawn, just your facts are awful, because you have been doing work, or you coulda counted on offing all of us before lifting off so you wouldnt have to fake work. Idk lol.

JAG who should i scan today?

[Shiggles]

lol no thoughts crimson? i see you on :-)

[Shiggles]

And ill be back tonight to see what he says lol. Ttyl guys!

[Chubby]

Course, we did have two attacks and no sign of defense, so Julio yes you are distrusted, what were you doing last night? Seems you should have been able to guard or see something

Snicker

[Chubby]

Shiggles - why crimson over darth?

[CrimsonFox]

Interestingly enough, nobody except the people that were written up as doing work are exhausted. So I'm just going to completely ignore "exhaustion" as being more secret roles I don't know about and play werewolf instead.

[JAG]

CrimsonFox should not be the vote today Shiggles, we should only be voting for a person who could be one of the original spawn (the person who was not the spawnling yesterday).

[Chubby]

CrimsonFox should not be the vote today Shiggles, we should only be voting for a person who could be one of the original spawn (the person who was not the spawnling yesterday).

unvote abe
vote darth

[Danny]

I'm sorry, but I just don't think Darth is a wolf. It seems a little far fetched to think he would have risked being outed just to let Shiggles out?

[Danny]

And voting for Crimson is an awful vote. There is no chance he was a starting spawn. Could be the convert like really any of us, but our main goal should be getting that starting spawn for now.

[Danny]

I also don't think a Chubby / GE team (plus I felt good about Chubby) would link itself like that, so for now I think we have toi put Chubbs and GE on the trust list.

[Julio Riddols]

Vote Shiggles

Because he gives me the shivers and the giggles.

[Shiggles]

Unvote Crimsonfox
Vote Darth

Well chubbs, its cause he was gunnin for me with no evidence, and seems like he was trying to spin information to get me axed. I still dont trust Julio, because that was a major fubar on the night watch. two deaths, and no explanations. What exactly does watching HQ mean? i dont know logistics, but seems like something should have been seen or heard.

[Shiggles]

and cause i forgot, whats deadline for new orders? i think were starting monday morning as resuming right? so like, nothing matters until after 9 A.M. monday?

[Danny]

Remember you have to bold a vote and unvote.

Votes count now, but no real time / working actions until monday morning

[Darth Vilus]

DV should finish facility 2. If he logs back in between now and 1pm EST tomorrow.

That's why, I must have missed the part where it was decided against

[Shiggles]

Unvote Crimsonfox
Vote Darth

Tks Chubby :-)

[Shiggles]

And voting for Crimson is an awful vote. There is no chance he was a starting spawn. Could be the convert like really any of us, but our main goal should be getting that starting spawn for now.

Arent the spawn randomly assigned powers like all the starting spawn were? why does it matter about a starting spawn vs a fully grown spawn?

[CrimsonFox]

2 more down. The bodies of two of your doctors (or one doctor and 1 would be doctor as the case may be), Chief Rum & saldana are found slain come morning roll call. This attack was not the only activity last night either.

hoopsguy & CrimsonFox worked on Power Facility 4, while DV applied his trade to Power Facility 2. Julio was spotted in the Security HQ.

Locations
The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG
First Officer - Lonestargirl
Second Officer - Danny

Chief Engineer - hoopsguy Exhausted
Engineers
Crimson Exhausted
Darth Exhausted

Medical Staff
Doctor - Shiggles

Security Staff
Slavemaster - Chubby
Sergeant-at-Arms - Julio Exhausted

Scientists
GoldenEagle
britrock
Trainer - Abe Sargent


I was thinking the day before when Shiggles turned up exhausted (not the above which is today) that "wow. The wolves have it really hard this game because their attacks and stuff will make them seem exhausted. I can't believe it's like that. "

But now I think differently. They DO have guards against that. Some ability like cunning or something. Maybe they can only disguise their exhaustion at certain times. But they can definitely disguise it. Maybe they never get exhausted at all unless they do SPECIFIC things. The above list proves that I think. All the people that had visible villager night actions came up exhausted and no one else.

[CrimsonFox]

Here's the Zinto lynch day "yesterday"

Today’s decision seems straight forward after the bold actions this morning of Zinto. The reveal in the body reveals a Spawn unlike the ones you’ve seen before. It’s clear that Zinto wasn’t just any Spawn, he was the SPAWN QUEEN.

The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG
First Officer - Lonestargirl
Second Officer - Danny

Chief Engineer - hoopsguy Exhausted
Engineers
Crimson Exhausted
Darth

Medical Staff
Doctor - saldana
Doctor - Shiggles Exhausted

Security Staff
Slavemaster - Chubby Exhausted
Sargent-at-Arms - Chief Rum Exhausted
Security Crewman - Julio

Scientists
GoldenEagle
britrock Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent
Slaves
20 slaves accounted for

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR
Danny- Lynched Day 3 SURVIVOR
Autumn Killed Night 3 SURVIVOR
dubb Killed Night 3 SPAWN
Simbo Klice Lynched Day 4 SCRYING SPAWN
Simbo Klice Lynched Day 5 SPAWN QUEEN

Night 5 has begun; Deadline 1 PM Saturday

And here is the morning of that day. The result of overnight.


People sleep a lot better tonight than last night. Part of that is literal: tonight there are beds that they can sleep in. But there is also the bigger sense as you’ve found 2 spawn in 4 days and now have a Spawn detector. Fresh off this success, one of your scientists, britrock, is seen conducting further research.

Hoops & CF, the great Engineering buddy team, work through the night once more, this time on the Power Facilities. Chubby can be seen spending the night by the slave pen, while Chief Rum is seen, and then not seen, and then seen again, around the Crew Quarters.

Your Spawn fighting success is great, but you know that you still will also need to get off this planet before you can truly feel safe.

Locations

Ship

Officers’ Offices Fully Operational Converted
Crew Quarters Damaged; 9 sleeping berths; 11 cycles to repair Converted



The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG 1
First Officer - Lonestargirl 2
Second Officer - Danny 3
Security Chief - Zinto Exhausted Armed with a 3 shot phaser


Chief Engineer - hoopsguy Exhausted
Engineers
Crimson Exhausted
Darth 4

Medical Staff
Doctor - saldana 5
Doctor - Shiggles Exhausted

Security Staff
Slavemaster - Chubby Exhausted
Sargent-at-Arms - Chief Rum Exhausted
Security Crewman - Julio 6

Scientists
GoldenEagle 7
britrock Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent 8
Slaves
20 slaves accounted for

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR
Danny- Lynched Day 3 SURVIVOR
Autumn Killed Night 3 SURVIVOR
dubb Killed Night 3 SPAWN
Simbo Klice Lynched Day 4 SCRYING SPAWN

Day 5 has begun

9 beds 8 people. Shiggles is the only one exhausted that is not listed as doing something.

[CrimsonFox]

no

all the doctors actions are day actions

if Chief is to be believed, that there were 2 spawn in the attack last night, Zinto was one, and shiggles should be the other

shiggles needs to explain why he is exhausted!!!

I see Shiggles here - what happened alst night?

Ok just caught up. BALLS zinto lol.

I did the bed count too, 9 beds 8 people slept, i apparently with my leftover action point didnt have enough sense to jump on a bed soon enough lol. I was unable to find a bed.

With my new ability of scanning people not being able to be used suckssssss lol. I was gonna suggest that i could scan the secondary candidate because zinto is obviously a spawn (yay for my "solidifying vote" yesterday, but i was mostly sure him AND simbo were spawn, if you can find the post number with my statements on it) Anyways. My motivations have not changed. Although im not sure who the other suspicious candidate would be. I was probably gonna suggest scan Darth or Julio if were lynching Zinto, but would also submit to a JAG order or group consensus.

And since i have no actions for today or tonight lol, ill probably just be on in an observatory capacity, since today is a busy day as well. Nice to know the weekend is off cause i wasnt sure how it was gonna play out, but all good now, monday is off pretty much, just showing the avengers to my buds from chicago sometime, so a chill day of awesome, should have plenty of time to chat and stuff.

Vote Zinto

P.S. Look at that! Golden Eagle is TOTALLY protected! you guys doubt my spells. Mad skills! :-P

Bbl guys!

Oh hey, would it work like this? Zinto "claimed" a bed, but did spawn activity because its not public knowledge (well actually it is, but lol) and that shoved me off the bed roster, which would explain why only 8 got sleep? If i'd have known, i would have asked JAG for a cott requisition lol. Anyways :-)

There is no such thing as claiming a bed. If you submit no order, then you sleep.

this right here is garbage...you dont have to do anything to sleep...only to stay awake...you dont have to put in a request to claim a bed either, which leads me to believe that shiggles hasnt slept once



posting all that. I'm glad saldana came to the same conclusion I did at the same time. And his answer to why he was exhausted wasn't "I don't know". It was made up stuff.

[Danny]

Hell, I would have even shared my bed!

[CrimsonFox]

actually i'd vote for him for the frequent lol-ing alone.

[Danny]

actually i'd vote for him for the frequent lol-ing alone.

lol

[CrimsonFox]

Analyzing the whole "Shiggles didn't make a scan" thing to see if I missed anything.

Here is the morning that things broke.

Whoever thought you’d be able to sleep while Crimson & hoops converted the Crew Quarters was sorely mistaken. Even the most sound of sleepers couldn’t possibly go to sleep with all of the racket that was created. People dispersed to whatever areas of Building D they could find to try and grab some shut eye for whatever good that did. It didn’t help anyone that the Sargent at Arms had been killed so no one had any phasers for their protection.

Not everyone was sleeping though. Simbo Klice was with some slaves at Power Facility 2. Chief was seen lurking around for part of the night, while Julio was spotted near the Water Plant. Meanwhile, Brit was spotted in the Science Lab.

Two people who weren’t spotted in the morning were dubb & Autumn. A search was launched and soon their dead bodies were both found near each other locked in combat til the end. And when looking at the state of the colony in the morning the news is even worse, starting with the fact that the water supply was completely exhausted by people taking their morning water rations. And that isn’t the only bad news either...

Locations

Building A:
Warehouse 4 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Warehouse 5 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Water Supply – 0 units No reserves present
Crystilium Supply – 59 units (at least 20 required for lift-off)

Slave Pens Fully Operational
Slave Pen 1 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 2 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 3 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 4 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 5 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present

Building B:
Power Facilities DAMAGED; 6 Cycles to repair
Power Facility 1 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building A
Power Facility 2 2 cycles required for conversion
OFFLINE
Power Facility 3 5 cycles required for conversion
OFFLINE
Power Facility 4 5 cycles required for conversion
Back-up
Power Facility 5 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Security Fences

Water Plant UNPOWERED 7 cycles required for conversion
Producing enough water for all Survivors each day

Building C:
Security HQ UNPOWERED 2 cycles required for conversion

Armory UNPOWERED 4 cycles required for conversion
18 phasers accounted for

Brig No power; Inaccessible 4 cycles required for conversion
No crew being held

Building D:

Medical Facilities DAMAGED; UNUSABLE; 2 cycles to repair 4 cycles required for conversion

Scientists’ Lab Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion

Peremiter Fence
Fully Operational

Ship
Warehouse 1 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 2 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 3 Converted Inaccessible

Officers’ Offices Fully Operational Converted
Crew Quarters Damaged; 9 sleeping berths; 11 cycles to repair Converted



The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG Exhausted
First Officer - Lonestargirl Exhausted
Second Officer - Packerfantic Exhausted
Security Chief - Zinto Exhausted Armed with a 3 shot phaser


Chief Engineer - hoopsguy Exhausted
Engineers
Crimson Exhausted
Darth Exhausted
Simbo Exhausted

Medical Staff
Doctor - saldana Exhausted
Doctor - Shiggles Exhausted

Security Staff
Slavemaster - Chubby Exhausted
Security Crewman - Julio Exhausted
Security Crewman - Chief Rum Exhausted

Scientists
Schmidty Exhausted
britrock Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent Exhausted

Slaves
20 slaves accounted for

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR
Danny- Lynched Day 3 SURVIVOR
Autumn Killed Night 3 SURVIVOR
dubb Killed Night 3 SPAWN

Day 4 has begun

CF repairs the medical facility allowing one doctor to perform his duties.

I repaired on point.

Why only one

He only fixed 1/2 damage.


BK being coy.

More work is done on the medical facilities by Simbo

saldana decides he will examine hoops

The two both emerge from the medical facilities

okay it worked...

shiggles trying to drum up suspicion on me and julio (down by the schoolyard)

ahh good, hoops is cleared. do you have any action points left saldana for the water stuff? or is it your special ability does something cool?

retaining zinto vote for now, other suspicion is still julio. barkeep never said he was wrong about anything, and that line of conversation shouldnt be lost to the cosmos. Suspicion still on julio, and a bit on CF, cause he did go gung ho on his orders, and it would be an interesting play to cease suspicion of him being a spawn by repairing the medical facilities, so one doctor could scan, instead of following JAG's orders had formed from consensus.

interesting vote for zinto

Its a good point from mr abe, he was cleared, but if the spawn jumped him afterwords, and now hes paying attention to their thread more than ours, lol you guys and conspiracy theories. When will we know the verdict on the scan from saldana? when he comes back?

Vote Zinto

a good question by jag

How about: Can Shiggles perform an examination today?

Yeah thats exactly what im thinking, but i got distracted by potential examination. i may examine him today, or zinto is the other suspicion. if i examine one, ill have pre-voted the other, so people know where i stand

Assuming both engineers completed work as stated, and no further damage, both doctors will be able to use the facility tomorrow.

bk didn't really answer the question. BK did simbo's work on the doctor facilities that day actually do anything? Did he actually do the work?


The thing about this day is shiggles never did say he was going to scan someone. Never did say "I submitted orders and BK said it didn't work". And BK didn't make one of his in-characters posts saying "Shiggles goes to examine X but finds the doctor facilities are still broken."

I'd still like confirmation on barkeep as to whether Simbo's "work" was actually work and the doctor facilities DID get fixed this day. But it appears Shiggles did not even attempt to examine anymore.

[Barkeep49]

You can determine whether the doctor facilities were fixed or not from information I've already put out there.

[Barkeep49]

Vote Counts

Day 1
No votes for execution

Day 2
mauboy 8 - chief (759) simbo (784) abe (918) saldana 923 autumn 1027 jag 1034 chubby (1046) Lonestar 1050
simbo 4 - packerfan (761) CrimsonFox (886) Danny 976 Zinto 1003
schmidty 1 - mauboy (894)
LSG 1 - dubb (1011)

Day 3
Simbo 1 - Danny (1450)
Julio 1 - hoops (1701)
hoops 2 - CR (1643) CF (1732)
dubb 5 - saldana (1486) Abe (1514) Chubby (1636) Simbo (1697)
Danny 8 - Shiggles (1624) JAG (1799) LSG (1802) Autumn (1803) brit (1804) dubb (1814) Zinto (1817) Julio (1836)

Day 4
Chubby 5 - CF (2134) Abe (2297) saldana (2357) brit (2422) Simbo (2440)
Simbo 10 - Shiggles (2336) LSG (2358) CR (2367) Danny (2378) Julio (2413) hoops (2431) Chubby (2432) GE (2439) DV (2443) JAG (2445)

Day 5
Zinto 12 - Julio (2607) JAG (2612) saldana (2633) CR (2640) Abe (2717) Shiggles (2736) hoops (2784) LSG (2802) Chubby (2804) brit (2805) Danny (2811) GE (2859) DV (2866)
CF 1 - CF (2902)

[GoldenEagle]

Can a scientist explain how the engineering tools are distributed?

I didn't get any information on how they are distributed. All I know is they allow an additional two players to function as engineers.

We can continue to research the medium level which will result in more tools.

[Julio Riddols]

Continuing for at least one more day sounds like an excellent idea.

[Barkeep49]

A player who is not an engineer may submit that they will use one of the tools and will thus get an engineer bonus.

[Danny]

Crimson voted for himself?

[JAG]

So if we did something like this for Monday:

DV supervises 6 slaves + Chubby supervises 4 slaves to convert power facility 1 = That's 5/5 cycles needed to convert power facility 1
hoops converts + CF converts + Julio converts wearing engineering tool on water plant = 8/7 cycles needed to convert water plant
GE converts wearing engineering tool = 2/2 cycles needed to convert science lab

We could conceivably lift off after the day deadline (assuming no faking of work or other mischief of course) if we don't mind not having access to a medical facility or phasers for the remainder of the game. I would say if we end up lynching a spawn today and only have 1 left, that might be a worthy trade-off since we won't have any further mutations to worry about so we'd have very good numerical odds on our side plus the science lab scanner / engineering tools to help us close it out.

[Chubby]

isnt DV the most likely spawn besides shiggles?

[hoopsguy]

So if we did something like this for Monday:

DV supervises 6 slaves + Chubby supervises 4 slaves to convert power facility 1 = That's 5/5 cycles needed to convert power facility 1
hoops converts + CF converts + Julio converts wearing engineering tool on water plant = 8/7 cycles needed to convert water plant
GE converts wearing engineering tool = 2/2 cycles needed to convert science lab

We could conceivably lift off after the day deadline (assuming no faking of work or other mischief of course) if we don't mind not having access to a medical facility or phasers for the remainder of the game. I would say if we end up lynching a spawn today and only have 1 left, that might be a worthy trade-off since we won't have any further mutations to worry about so we'd have very good numerical odds on our side plus the science lab scanner / engineering tools to help us close it out.

Are we going to have water if we adopt this plan to push for the rapid liftoff?

[CrimsonFox]

isnt DV the most likely spawn besides shiggles?

I agree with this statement. Id he is not spawn then his play this game has kinda hurt us.

[Julio Riddols]

So if we did something like this for Monday:

DV supervises 6 slaves + Chubby supervises 4 slaves to convert power facility 1 = That's 5/5 cycles needed to convert power facility 1
hoops converts + CF converts + Julio converts wearing engineering tool on water plant = 8/7 cycles needed to convert water plant
GE converts wearing engineering tool = 2/2 cycles needed to convert science lab

We could conceivably lift off after the day deadline (assuming no faking of work or other mischief of course) if we don't mind not having access to a medical facility or phasers for the remainder of the game. I would say if we end up lynching a spawn today and only have 1 left, that might be a worthy trade-off since we won't have any further mutations to worry about so we'd have very good numerical odds on our side plus the science lab scanner / engineering tools to help us close it out.

I like this plan.

[Danny]

Jag, I am in full support of getting off of this planet as quickly as possible. The medical facilities aren't that important anymore with two doctors gone and the third a possible wolf.

[Danny]

The last thing we want is more spawnling attempts to undermine whatever kind of circle of trust we can create.

I'll try and get some voting records tonight before I go to sleep or tomorrow. Feeling kind of lazy right now

[CrimsonFox]

I was throwing Zinto a bone. :)

[CrimsonFox]

DON'T be lazy Danny. DO IT! DO IT! DOIT DO IT! DOIT!

[Danny]

You could have waited until he was dead, you necro you.

[Danny]

I am drunk on Italian food and diet vanilla coke

[CrimsonFox]

okay Zinto,

here's your bone I'm throwing you

unvote zinto
vote crimsonfox


Thanks CF!

at least he died happy.
was at 5:59 when there were tons of zinto votes.

[Danny]

Holy crap a hair from my moustache just got caught in the coke can, damn that hurt.

[CrimsonFox]

ouch I hate that!

[Danny]

You watch Doctor Who? I'm watching them on netflix and am addicted. Just finished season 2.

[CrimsonFox]

of COURSE I watch it! It is awesome! are you talking the REAL season 2 from the 60's? Or the new ones with Christopher eccleston

[Danny]

The new ones. Only ones on Netflix. Eccleston was season 1. Season 2-5 is David Tennant.

[CrimsonFox]

You need to watch Pertwee, Tom Baker and Davison.

If you really like Tennant (and who doesn't), you must watch Tom Baker. He really made the series and is no doubt who influenced Tennant with his performance.

[Danny]

Yeah, those seasons aren't on netflix as far as I can tell :(

[Shiggles]

Ok defense time. For starters, i have taken no night actions this game, i dont have any night action points.

Point two. I was "Unable to find a bed to sleep in" for the night i was exhausted. Im not sure WHY, but thats the reason why i was exhausted. Said that before, you omitted it.

Ok for this cunning stuff, your gonna have to link me some combos, not throw out some speculations on what you believe. cause being LOCKED IN THE BRIG would be a nice alliby for not being able to kill anyone. Did anyone check if i was still IN the brig? i didnt move, and i guess if you check the HQ cameras, i would be still in there eh? You find a spawn where it can kill two people and not be exhausted, otherwise, silencio because its nearing lunacy and paranoia.

I would like to point out that at least 3 times that day the medical facilities got fixed, i asked if i could scan, and barkeep said one doctor, which you posted. it says they could be used TOMORROW. not that day. so it means im SOL. I sat on an action point because they didnt even take me on a mission for water and stuff that day. that was the night where i didnt get a bed, and zinto took us in the morning so i was unable to scan anyone. so yes, i have been unable to scan anyone since ive been a doctor.

and of course the facilities were broke, simbo wouldnt fix them, he was spawn. get your head in the game and quit tryin to blackball me.

the only "loose end" in my case is that stupid night where i couldnt find a bed, which ive PMed barkeep about, and am trying to find out any sort of details on that night that i can use to prove my innocence. JAG, is there any sort of camera feed that could be used to track me around the compound that night? maybe some security cameras? not like i was hiding, should be public areas or something. would be interesting to know.

Now. ill check this thread tomorrow morning and afternoon, but im seein the avengers again at 3, and dinner afterwords, so ill make sure to get my scan orders in early. If im out of the brig at that point. If not, then my vote will stand and ill just sit and draw more protective runes all over my cell. its starting to look like an egyptian temple in here there are so many pictographs on the walls.

[Shiggles]

oh, and crimsonfox. L O L :-P

[CrimsonFox]

How about: Can Shiggles perform an examination today?

Assuming both engineers completed work as stated, and no further damage, both doctors will be able to use the facility tomorrow.

ok then mr jag, if i am not examining anyone, where would you like me?

Dont forget chief, how its suspicious how Simbo was at the power facility, and was left standing with no communication regarding it or anything. Simbo seems like a likely candidate for spawn. As does Zinto, because im deadly suspicous of him. Which ever of the two you guys would approve of has my vote. Also, being an "engineer" shouldnt be a guarantee of we shouldnt off him. Tech is being researched i think of having us be able to repair things during the day like engineers, so it may slow things down, but getting spawn is a HUGE priority, since tonight people will be fearing for their lives more than ever, me included. We do need to make this vote count. and mine are for Zinto or Simbo. 2 cents

There was suspicion on zinto from a while back which never went away, and since none of it has been really disproved, its still plausible.

The suspicion for Simbo partly was due to inactivity, but the fiasco with the power facilities, a lot of it points to the engineer, or hey, what was zinto doing last night?

interesting. too bad we cant put people in the brig lol

I say again, if saldana is spawn from start, and has been "clearing" the people, were utterly screwed, so lets not persue that line of thinking. I can try to scan if you wish, but that would probably be a waste of a slot tomorrow., But it would remove that doubt. Oh well lol.

Down with the spawn, for they are crunchy and do not taste good with ketchup.

but didnt we lock JAG in there day 1? before the scan?

Yeah. Im trusting of Sal at this moment, because he also revealed a oneshot power that would be easy to disprove and he might use it.

Simbo and zinto just have that ring about them. Seem like the mostlikely candidates at the moment. As for metagaming, none of us knew what the spawn were doing on night 1, it seemed they were playing it safe and quiet, and they raged us last night because there was an opening. Unless you got some speculation? i think someone mentioned breeding or making an overlord?

oh thats right. he just suggested it as an alternative in case someone else needed to be scanned. he could give orders while being locked in the brig was probably his line of reasoning, and at night he would be locked away so no spawn communication. Then the check went through instead. makes sense to me at least lol

ive got to eat now, but be advised JAG, i still have no action done today, Unless you want me to go tag along with someone then you better submit something that could be profitable lol

i am not able to scan, power hasnt quite been restored or whatever, only saldana was able to scan today or it would have been done earlier. FOOD! lol bbl

*starts handing out bandaids and antiseptic* i upgraded my magical components! now you guys dont get sticks and things! *sits back down and starts pouring over textbooks, muttering something about the second heart being the center of all happiness, then realizing hes reading someones Doctor Who spinoff.* "Oh well, its bound to be useful sometime!" *continues reading*

btw, who else wants this worm cream? itll probably be much more effective than the wombat protection i used to cast. Much cleaner too

*starts drawing protective runes all over GoldenEagle* Dont mind me sir, its for your PROTECTION! *Giggles and runs away chanting*

lol when does vote go down? im itchin for the reveal

Me being paranoid if we get attacked when were all exhausted, its either the armory to assist in us getting not dead'ed by morning, or i guess you could hit crew quarters so we could be more effective, but im all about guns to the security officers and important people so we can potentiallly defend against the attacks if they come. I would risk being exhausted another day if i had a phaser.

The day didn’t start off well. Lots of damage and seemingly not enough people to do anything. News improves a little when you learn that the scientists have finished the Spawn Detector. It is only working in the broadest strokes but it is functional. Things improve a little as well when Hoops works on the Power Facility and also reroutes some power.

You decide that that the most likely person to be a Spawn is Simbo. Just as you have the past two days you kill him and desecrates the body. This time, however, you find something a bit different. It seems that he was a SCRYING SPAWN!

The mood sours a bit when the Perimeter Fence goes down. Based on your investigations you know that it won’t be coming back anytime soon either.

Locations

Building A:
Warehouse 4 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Warehouse 5 7 cycles required for conversion
26 / 40 units filled
Water Supply – 17 units Enough for 1 day at present rate consumption
Crystilium Supply – 49 units (at least 20 required for lift-off)

Slave Pens Fully Operational
Slave Pen 1 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 2 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 3 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 4 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 5 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present

Building B:
Power Facilities DAMAGED; 3 Cycles to repair
Power Facility 1 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building A
Power Facility 2 2 cycles required for conversion
OFFLINE
Power Facility 3 5 cycles required for conversion
OFFLINE
Power Facility 4 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building D
Power Facility 5 5 cycles required for conversion
Unused

Water Plant UNPOWERED 7 cycles required for conversion
Producing enough water for all Survivors each day

Building C:
Security HQ UNPOWERED 2 cycles required for conversion

Armory UNPOWERED 4 cycles required for conversion
18 phasers accounted for

Brig No power; Inaccessible 4 cycles required for conversion
No crew being held

Building D:

Medical Facilities Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion

Scientists’ Lab Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion
2 Spawn Detected

Peremiter Fence
Permanently Offline

Ship
Warehouse 1 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 2 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 3 Converted Inaccessible

Officers’ Offices Fully Operational Converted
Crew Quarters Damaged; 9 sleeping berths; 11 cycles to repair Converted



The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG Exhausted
First Officer - Lonestargirl Exhausted
Second Officer - DannyExhausted
Security Chief - Zinto Exhausted Armed with a 3 shot phaser


Chief Engineer - hoopsguy Exhausted
Engineers
Crimson Exhausted
Darth Exhausted

Medical Staff
Doctor - saldana Exhausted
Doctor - Shiggles Exhausted

Security Staff
Slavemaster - Chubby Exhausted
Security Crewman - Julio Exhausted
Security Crewman - Chief Rum Exhausted

Scientists
GoldenEagle Exhausted
britrock Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent Exhausted

Slaves
20 slaves accounted for

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR
Danny- Lynched Day 3 SURVIVOR
Autumn Killed Night 3 SURVIVOR
dubb Killed Night 3 SPAWN
Simbo Klice Lynched Day 4 SCRYING SPAWN

Night 4 has begun

You can determine whether the doctor facilities were fixed or not from information I've already put out there.


Okay Barkeep This is the information I found. You said "tomorrow".
Okay guy can you guys figurethis out? I did my work that day and barkeep said in thread I did work. Saldana scanned that day. Then jag asked his question. BK's answer included the word "tomorrow". We were told Simbo did more work that day and the next morning (shown above) shows it fixed. So that means Simbo's work DID count and it WAS fixed. Since my fix allowed saldana to scan, does anyone else see why simbo's fix shouldn't let shiggles scan? BK there are no rules listed about the realtime stuff of any cutoffs. Is there a reason that a after a certain time someone's fixes won't apply the same day but the next day? Anyone else find an explanation for this?

Oh yeah, all of shiggles' comments of that day are there too just for analysis.

[CrimsonFox]

There is nothing in the rules or information about "not finding a bed" unless someone can find something? BK never put anything in thread in a little storyblurb about it either.

Nothing is mentioned about the dr's office except that simbo did more work, that it would be "ready tomorrow" which still awaits explanation, and that the medbay was indeed completely working that next morning.

I"m only anylizing shiggles because both things he has said aren't in the rules and BK has said nothing to confirm it.

Shiggles did not make a scan.
It was never announced that he tried and wasn't able.
Shiggles was Exhausted with no telling us he was doing anything.
saldana (confirmed good) said doctors get no night actions.
Shiggles said the reason was he couldn't find a bed. (Nothing in rules or bk posts say anything like that.
There was a bed available.

That's what I'm working with. Not attacking. Just trying to analyze this. And the statments made I have to vote shiggles.

[Danny]

Still need to do my votey thing, but one thing I want to look back at is who ZInto chose to send on his mission on Friday. At the time I thought it was likely he chose one fellow or soon to be spawn to go out there in order to mix things up.

[CrimsonFox]

Only other people I suspect based on just a couple weird responses.

Britrock
- had a couple very defensive comments but he has done work for us every night. Without him we would not have got engineering tools and spawn detector

LSG - Very reserved. Not pointing fingers.

Shiggles - Has mentioned wanting to vote for known wolves a lot. This is nothing extremely strong. But indeed possible coaching by others. That post about wanting to vote Zinto and SImbo.

[Danny]

In terms of spawnlings, Zinto might have done us a favor with the away crew. Not an overall favor, just in terms of risk for exposure/conversion with the gate down. Saldana's miracle worker should have protected all of us from being potentially exposed today, and since we've wasted our actions we can't get exposed further.

So for the people who were on that trip - me, Crimson, Saldana - there was no risk to Spawnling exposure during Day 5. Doesn't mean stuff couldn't have happened earlier/later in the game, but the window of time for a spawnling action closes up a bit.

Saldana Scans - can someone verify names/days on this list?
D1: JAG
D2: PackerFanatic, now Danny
D3: CrimsonFox
D4: Hoopsguy
D5: none, action blocked

Found this while looking for mission. I think it's likely a convert came from this list of people.

[Danny]

"Hoops, Crimson, Saldana, and Shigggles" were the ones sent on the mission

[Danny]

If it were me, i likely would have included one spawn on that mission somewhere cause sending out four villagers might be bad.

[hoopsguy]

"Hoops, Crimson, Saldana, and Shigggles" were the ones sent on the mission

I think we can remove Saldana from this list.

Something I've heard a couple of times, and I can't quite recall the logic why, is that Crimson cannot be starting Spawn. Can someone map that out for me, just to put my paranoid mind at ease?

[CrimsonFox]

Glad you guys are here. Hoops, Danny, Jag, etc please let me know what you think of all this analysis. I really thought it was a slam dunk. And there seem to be a couple big holes in our knowledge of what was going on.

[JAG]

isnt DV the most likely spawn besides shiggles?

We don't really have a choice as we have to use an engineer to lead slaves, only DV and CF are left for that. We can't use the engineering tools to have someone supervise slaves for conversion (at least that's my understanding).

Are we going to have water if we adopt this plan to push for the rapid liftoff?

Yes, the water converter will be on the ship making water for us.

Found this while looking for mission. I think it's likely a convert came from this list of people.

Just an FYI, on that list, CF was never scanned, it was actually dubb day 3.

[JAG]

And if DV fakes his work, we'll vote him out the following day. There aren't many spawn left, so that's a big risk for them to take at this point.

[CrimsonFox]

And if DV fakes his work, we'll vote him out the following day. There aren't many spawn left, so that's a big risk for them to take at this point.

DV has not done any work at night until last night when we didn't really want him to. He hasn't really been checking in this game at all with what he's doing. So very possible wolf.

[CrimsonFox]

We don't really have a choice as we have to use an engineer to lead slaves, only DV and CF are left for that. We can't use the engineering tools to have someone supervise slaves for conversion (at least that's my understanding).







Just an FYI, on that list, CF was never scanned, it was actually dubb day 3.


Yes I was the one that pointed out that it was dubb and not me.

As for tools, can we get a description?
Are the tools strictly for repair? If it was said already, sorry.

[JAG]

CF, the whole 'Shiggles didn't make a scan' argument really seems lacking to me. If he's a spawn, I can't imagine why he wouldn't want to fake his duties and 'clear' people for us rather than out himself in such an obvious way. We saw an example of what happened when Simbo faked his work the day he did it, Barkeep writes it up exactly like he were a regular guy performing his duties.

If you want to argue his being exhausted that other night, yeah, I don't have an explanation for that.

[CrimsonFox]

I think we can remove Saldana from this list.

Something I've heard a couple of times, and I can't quite recall the logic why, is that Crimson cannot be starting Spawn. Can someone map that out for me, just to put my paranoid mind at ease?

*shrug* I've not been starting or any other type of spawn.
Was never scanned. But as for reasons I am most likely not starting spawn you can read through the game.

I especially point to the threeway confirmation between Julio and saldana and I when I made my empath scans. Empath is not a spawn role, but a villager.

But I also am the main person driving engineering work.

[JAG]

I think we can remove Saldana from this list.

Something I've heard a couple of times, and I can't quite recall the logic why, is that Crimson cannot be starting Spawn. Can someone map that out for me, just to put my paranoid mind at ease?

He claimed the Empathic role, which a starting Spawn couldn't have had.

[CrimsonFox]

CF, the whole 'Shiggles didn't make a scan' argument really seems lacking to me. If he's a spawn, I can't imagine why he wouldn't want to fake his duties and 'clear' people for us rather than out himself in such an obvious way. We saw an example of what happened when Simbo faked his work the day he did it, Barkeep writes it up exactly like he were a regular guy performing his duties.

If you want to argue his being exhausted that other night, yeah, I don't have an explanation for that.

True it is the weaker of the two, yet there has been no explanation for it.
As for "why someone does or doesn't do something" on either side can be anything and they can make up reasons for anything.

Can you point out the post/day Simbo fakes work btw?

Also this was back before that. Anyway Shiggles was using the excuse that BK said "tomorrow" that the medbay would be working.
He was also asking you who to scan. But then never submitted anything. Basically lots of "chatter about stuff" but then doesn't submit.

Akin to the whole "listing people you are suspicious of" and then voting for someone else.

[CrimsonFox]

I'm trying to take into account that Shiggles is new and doesn't know certain types of WW moves. But could easily be coached to do certain things. But also being new he could make some big mistakes. So I don't really buy "a wolf would never do that" arguments totally. Because they can do that. Especially when things are already falling apart for the wolf team.

[Chubby]

unvote darth
vote shiggles

Shiggles today darth tomorrow

[JAG]

Alright, work order submitted.
I'm leaning towards wanting to lynch dubb, half a bird in the hand is probably worth whatever's in the bushes at this point.

Chief Rum, Simbo, and six slaves <s>walk into a bar</s> head down to the Crew Quarters to do some work.

This is Simbo faking his work.

[CrimsonFox]

Sure I'd like to hear more arguments.

Right now we have 2 spawn right? 1 starting and 1 that was converted night before last?

Who it was could depend on what they wanted to achieve/foul up.

Engineering: DV, me, hoops - of the 3 DV has done the least amount of work

Command: JAG for being able to order people and get our conversion done

Trainers: Abe cause he keeps spitting out doctors

Science: brit/GE because they are making things to help us.

Doctor: Shiggles. If he wasn't starting spawn, then a good target once he was converted. He was a doctor before chief though. So why was chief killed and not him?

Those that are much less obvious targets: LSG, brit, GE, Danny. I put brit and GE here because I think they are less of a desirable target.
But this group would probably be a panic button so that they choose someone that wouldn't be scanned or lynched. LSG ehh her posting isn't the strongest compared to when she has been a villager in the past. Danny's play suggests villager to the max the past couple days.

[JAG]

So if we did something like this for Monday:

DV supervises 6 slaves + Chubby supervises 4 slaves to convert power facility 1 = That's 5/5 cycles needed to convert power facility 1
hoops converts + CF converts + Julio converts wearing engineering tool on water plant = 8/7 cycles needed to convert water plant
GE converts wearing engineering tool = 2/2 cycles needed to convert science lab

We could conceivably lift off after the day deadline (assuming no faking of work or other mischief of course) if we don't mind not having access to a medical facility or phasers for the remainder of the game. I would say if we end up lynching a spawn today and only have 1 left, that might be a worthy trade-off since we won't have any further mutations to worry about so we'd have very good numerical odds on our side plus the science lab scanner / engineering tools to help us close it out.

Just wanted to say, the other reason for the people selected above doing those specific tasks is that, assuming they haven't already been compromised, we are making sure no one from command has a chance at being mutated since they aren't being exposed to the outside and the Spawn don't have a queen to lead Spawn attacks.

[CrimsonFox]

oh yeah forgot Chubby in my post above. Yeah he's in the last group of people that aren't that important jobwise so I can't see the wolves targetting him to mess us up.


And really the way Chubby's been acting/posting/helping I feel confident about his villagerness right now.

[CrimsonFox]

Just wanted to say, the other reason for the people selected above doing those specific tasks is that, assuming they haven't already been compromised, we are making sure no one from command has a chance at being mutated since they aren't being exposed to the outside and the Spawn don't have a queen to lead Spawn attacks.


Are you saying that only nonofficers who haven't been out doing things are clear? Or can't anybody be infected since the fence has been down.

As for the queen I never did read those rules so I don't really know what she was used for and what spawn activity she was required for.

[CrimsonFox]

Sounds good on the transferring stuff JAG. And yeah I don't think they are going to let us use the medlab again so no worries.
Incidently if you do think Shiggles isn't a spawn then why did you throw him in the brig and why don't you want the medbay going? (not that I think we have time for that either)

[Julio Riddols]

I'm pretty sure we have a good plan in place to go Shiggles today and Darth tomorrow (unless somehow he clears himself between now and then).

I'd say I am 95% sure about the first one and 75% sure on the second based on the evidence presented.

[Chubby]

Is it possible to order darth to do the work before he gets online to put in an order to fake it?

[JAG]

I don't know that he has to be online to fake the order. I would imagine he could fake it anytime after given, but you could be right. Again though, if he fakes it, it's an obvious death sentence the next day anyway.

[JAG]

I'm pretty sure we have a good plan in place to go Shiggles today and Darth tomorrow (unless somehow he clears himself between now and then).

I'd say I am 95% sure about the first one and 75% sure on the second based on the evidence presented.

Can you reveal your psychic scans from the last few days?

[CrimsonFox]

So JAG, have you finished thinking about conversion orders?

Should we start submitting them?

[JAG]

I don't think we can take action until BK says they're open. I feel pretty decently about the plan I outlined though.

[Julio Riddols]

I've been trying to scan people that haven't been heavily suspected just to clear them. I started scanning hoopsguy as my second scan, and it took 3 days to reveal what he was. I feel like at this rate, it would take almost a whole week to figure out who a spawn is. Either that or I have been a victim of bad rolls. My new scan has been submitted, but I haven't gotten any result yet from it.

[CrimsonFox]

I've been trying to scan people that haven't been heavily suspected just to clear them. I started scanning hoopsguy as my second scan, and it took 3 days to reveal what he was. I feel like at this rate, it would take almost a whole week to figure out who a spawn is. Either that or I have been a victim of bad rolls. My new scan has been submitted, but I haven't gotten any result yet from it.

did I miss something? Did hoops reveal what he was? All I remember is hoops not knowing what he was. If you can tell him that would help :)

[Julio Riddols]

It sucks because the longer a scan takes, the more incentive I have to continue scanning.. I thought even with all the evidence to the contrary, the fact that it took more than 2 days had me thinking hoopsguy could have still been a spawn.. But he came back clean.

[Julio Riddols]

hoops don't know what he is?

[Julio Riddols]

With his permission, I guess I can reveal it.

[CrimsonFox]

Your outline looks good if those are the only things we need, Jag. Don't need brig and medbay yeah. Armory not sure. Without Armory we get no guns. But I do agree that we need to leave soon so no more spawn can be made.

As for motivations of wolves, I have been feeling the Zinto move was the beginning of just going for broke on the wolf side. People were getting revealed on their side so their goal switched from concealing themselves to just keeping us here as long as possible to infect us and therefore not being able to do anything about it. I've felt that a couple times the last couple ingame days. Don't think EVERYthing we've seen has been like that (like killing both doctors instead of doing more damage) but some things.

[CrimsonFox]

hoops don't know what he is?

lol I think that's what he said. haha

[CrimsonFox]

So I still don't know what my secret role is for this game. Which means that I've got it pretty much narrowed down to a small group of options, all of which seem to be pretty positive for the village.

Not: Absolute Trust, Duplicant, Empathic, Gut Feeling (I had 4 votes at one point, right?), Miracle Worker, Psychic, Slayer, Vigilante

Possible:
- Avenger (have final vote counts been published officially by BK? If not, how would I track this?
- Incorruptible (wondering if this would apply to exposure outside as well? BK?)
- Light Sleeper
- Spawn Aware (the one where I can do some level of tracking to see if it might be applicable)

here

[CrimsonFox]

found it on page 63 too

[Julio Riddols]

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[CrimsonFox]

:D I haven't heard Richard Cheese in awhile. He's hilarious. Is that a hint

[Julio Riddols]

Yeah, trying not to make it too obvious, although I think it does.

[Julio Riddols]

Lets just say if a fly lands on the window sill, that bastard wakes up like a war vet being tickled during a sleepover.

[CrimsonFox]

heh your 3's company hint meant nothing to me but the fly thing, okay. Light Sleeper.

[JAG]

Just knowing he has a villager role is helpful because it should mean he's not Spawn.

[CrimsonFox]

I was really hoping you would say spawn aware.
I am wondering if at this point anyone that knows their roles should reveal. Most are kinda worthless anyway as compared to actual jobs.

[CrimsonFox]

Just knowing he has a villager role is helpful because it should mean he's not Spawn.


*nodnod* something we definitely need to know

[CrimsonFox]

who was the absolute trust group btw?

[JAG]

Not possible for you and he to be working together since neither could be starting spawn.

[Chubby]

who was the absolute trust group btw?

Myseld, chief rum and schmidty/goldeneagle

[CrimsonFox]

Myseld, chief rum and schmidty/goldeneagle


Then that leaves Shiggles, LSG, Abe, Brit, Danny/Packer as the starting spawn possibilities right?

[Abe Sargent]

Morning

[Abe Sargent]

Time to look at training possibilities.

[hoopsguy]

With his permission, I guess I can reveal it.

I don't - I have it down to 3-4 potential roles but I don't know which one I have. I'm fine with you revealing it in the thread.

[hoopsguy]

Guess I know it now - which is good, except for fact that I haven't slept much :)

Was also hoping Spawn Aware, as that would cast doubt on Shiggles claim that he had that role.

[hoopsguy]

The "no bed" thing is what I consider the biggest hole in the Shiggles defense/timeline. That just doesn't work for me, unless we somehow had the wrong count for beds.

One other point that I've seen raised is tracking night actions to exhausted. It is great in terms of fingering someone who is exhausted without a reason, but the people who are shown in the night reports are not cleared. A spawn can perform their public role and their spawn action in the same evening - their public role doesn't stop them from doing spawn things. I've asked that in the thread and BK has confirmed that is the case.

[hoopsguy]

Then that leaves Shiggles, LSG, Abe, Brit, Danny/Packer as the starting spawn possibilities right?

Pretty sure Danny/Packer was scanned by Saldana D2 so he isn't a starting option either.

[hoopsguy]

JAG, I don't see us having Shiggles in the list of orders for today - per his role he could still scan, correct? Should we "help" him pick his target?

[hoopsguy]

Also, I'm ready to put in the order for working/converting the water plant now. Just posting now as a final "speak now or hold your peace" prior to submitting.

[JAG]

You're good to submit as far as I can tell hoops. I think I have our numbers correct.

Re: Shiggles, I'm pretty sure he would scan whoever we asked him to or else look rather suspicious, so not sure I need to burn an order to help him out.

Surprised BK hasn't shown up yet this morning, hope ecerything's ok on his end.

[JAG]

Incidentally, I tend to buy Julio's story re: hoops which would mean Julio is on the survivor side of the ledger. I recall a couple days back where he was harping on hoops as a potential Spawn and the fact that Julio wasn't able to get a reading for two consecutive days would explain why he did that.

[hoopsguy]

Yep, I'm feeling quite a bit better on Julio now than I was 3-4 days ago as well.

Shiggles - if (when?) he turns up spawn that would give us some insight into the order of actions as well. If there were only two spawn and they got two kills, then for him to be spawn he would have needed to be released from the brig early enough to get his kill. So Spawn kills would be one of the last actions processed.

[britrock88]

Catching up on the weekend's discussion.

But, for today, medium-level research? Medium-level research.

[JAG]

I would say medium, but if you don't mind, hold off a bit on the research.

Britrock, any thoughts on potential Spawn amongst the players who are left? You're in the group of people who could have been starting Spawn, so if you're a survivor, your insight would be useful.

[JAG]

For everyone who hasn't submitted orders yet, I think we might want to hold off for now. BK hasn't been on since yesterday evening.

[Darth Vilus]

Vote Shiggles

I'm telling you all you're gonna make a mistake if you kill me

[Darth Vilus]

And I'm not going to be around today so just have JAG put in orders for me

[Shiggles]

There is nothing in the rules or information about "not finding a bed" unless someone can find something? BK never put anything in thread in a little storyblurb about it either.

Nothing is mentioned about the dr's office except that simbo did more work, that it would be "ready tomorrow" which still awaits explanation, and that the medbay was indeed completely working that next morning.

I"m only anylizing shiggles because both things he has said aren't in the rules and BK has said nothing to confirm it.

Shiggles did not make a scan.
It was never announced that he tried and wasn't able.
Shiggles was Exhausted with no telling us he was doing anything.
saldana (confirmed good) said doctors get no night actions.
Shiggles said the reason was he couldn't find a bed. (Nothing in rules or bk posts say anything like that.
There was a bed available.

That's what I'm working with. Not attacking. Just trying to analyze this. And the statments made I have to vote shiggles.


The sheer number of posts i had in that time, were all geared towards asking what i should do with my leftover action point. Because it said it would be operational for both doctors "tomorrow". Im not sure if my knowledge of that word is extensive enough, but that means "you cant do it today", so no, i did not submit any orders for my action, because i had no actions i could perform. I repeatedly asked for input and absolutely anyone could have suggested anything to do and i would have helped. I would have jumped on it because of my barely used "spawn aware" ability, which i havent been using effectively all game lol. If anyone said come jumprope with me, i would have said how high.

when it was fixed the next day, zinto pulled us all on a mission before i got on, so no action point, so when it was totally fixed, (although we dont know because we havent had a second doctor try to perform a check, only just the one which we know it can handle, but it doesnt really matter, he probably just fixed it because saldana would have mentioned if it were still broken) i was unable to perform a check because my 1 AP had been spent on a mission.

so really, you cant use any of that against me, theres just the one loose end of theres nothing in the rules that state if there are enough beds open, then everyone gets to sleep. well, i say again, if zinto didnt have a public role set, then he "claimed the bed" and performed spawn actions therefore keeping me at bay. Its the only realistic possibility i see, and you can keep me in the brig all you want lol. or you can let me scan people like i was trained to do. Just gotta catch up on all the posts now, i still got a bit to go (bottom of page 63)

[Shiggles]

lol you guys make my head hurt. Who you want scanned JAG? cause with no input ill probably scan CF, or suicide by scanning Darth

[Shiggles]

considering, darth is making JAG spend a point using an order, but could just be for availability issues. meh.

[hoopsguy]

Shiggles, if you think Darth is the most likely (and that seems where majority is at, you excluded) then that is a good choice.

[Shiggles]

Yeah, ive got conditional orders sent to barkeep, barring Jag's direction, im gonna scan Darth

[Shiggles]

btw, whats the vote count?

[JAG]

I don't know about scanning Darth. I'd hold off on your order for now until I can give it some more thought and look up a few more things if you don't mind. It doesn't look like much is going to happen today at the moment anyway.

[Shiggles]

I don't know about scanning Darth. I'd hold off on your order for now until I can give it some more thought and look up a few more things if you don't mind. It doesn't look like much is going to happen today at the moment anyway.

Well, you better mention a better candidate then, cause unless you say another name, or the votes pile up on me, my orders to scan darth will go through.

part A. i trust your judgement

Part B. if im gonna get lynched for bein innocent, i might as well take a spawn with me, and let you guys figure out the aftermath lol.

Any name you mention will switch the orders, although ill make sure to clarify with barkeep that your making up your mind, so that shouldnt get pushed through yet. Just if the votes pile up on me will push it through.

[JAG]

Considering BK hasn't been here all day, I don't think this will end up being a normal day w/lynch because we won't have had opportunity to react to stuff being done in real time (like if you're good and you scanned a Spawn, we wouldn't have time to change our votes to another candidate or try to resubmit orders to cover for a killed person). If BK shows up reasonably soonish maybe that will be a moot point.

I really don't want you to scan Darth because if he's a Spawn, we won't be able to get the conversion work done today when you blow him up (if you aren't Spawn and he is that is). If he's Spawn, he can decide if he wants to fake his work, which would immediately out himself, or completing our work for us.

[Shiggles]

True, so you would want to out a hidden spawn first, i understand that. But im thinking along the lines of self preservation at the moment as well. If im going to get lynched, i might as well sacrifice myself for the best lead we have, so you guys can get down to the real problem. With two spawn, and neither one being me, whos the other one than darth? Defensive reflexes make that Crimson has been doing his work admirably all game, but if they can perform both their roles AND spawn actions, then he has been exhausted all game because of his engineering role, as Julio has been on security detail. Those are really the only two i suspect at the moment, but with Julio scanning Hoops, it makes it less likely, if julio can reveal the information like they did before, then they can reveal again and have retained their villager role and are not spawn.

The reason for voting off the doctor is, how are you guys going to survive after liftoff without a scanner as well. It will be up to guesswork if the spawn has been playing well (which they have been) so without the doctor to scan people, and before we had multiple so they could scan each other, then theres a greater chance of spawn victory. Pushing votes on me will make me scan darth, which will in my mind, most likely eliminate me, because i believe he is one.

Crimson only had two empath scans right?

[JAG]

If you're good, you should not be scanning anyone performing a critical function to allow us to lift off after conversion work is complete at the end of the day, there's really no question in my mind about it. If there's Spawn amongst those people, they will either do the work to let us take off or out themselves for us, which means there would be no point in wasting a scan on them. If you scan one and blow them up, you're increasing our timeline to lift off which is not helpful to the survivors.

Other than that, we're all in limbo until BK shows up and lets us know how he wants to handle the day, so I don't have more specific strategy to talk about until he comes back (and again, hope everything is ok with him).

[Shiggles]

Gotcha, limbo resumed :-P. Well im gonna be heading out for food/the avengers with my chicago buddies cause they leave tomorrow morning, so since conditional orders have been sent, and depend on Jag to either mention me to scan a specific person which will cause that contingency to trigger. I'll check back tonight after all stuff said and donewith, Good luck all and hopefully ill not be dead after tonight!

P.S. you can also lock me in the brig if your concerned about me scanning darth, i dont mind. I did send the orders in because it seemed like there was a flood of votes against me, and i was gonna give you more time to decide who to lynch after i did the scan, but it seems people have been observing and no longer voting for the moment. So yes, limbo resumed.

P.P.S. my original quote that crimson posted about the brig, i was under the impression that we couldnt use it without a warden. That being said, if we have power to it, is your lockout until day 8 still effective on me? anyways... May the force be with you! *Chants and runs away*

[Barkeep49]

Apologies. Internet wasn't working this morning at home and had very little availability to check it at work (and honestly forgot to do it in the 1 chance I had today). Am catching up on the thread now.

[Abe Sargent]

GM sighting!

[Barkeep49]

Okay Barkeep This is the information I found. You said "tomorrow".
Okay guy can you guys figurethis out? I did my work that day and barkeep said in thread I did work. Saldana scanned that day. Then jag asked his question. BK's answer included the word "tomorrow". We were told Simbo did more work that day and the next morning (shown above) shows it fixed. So that means Simbo's work DID count and it WAS fixed. Since my fix allowed saldana to scan, does anyone else see why simbo's fix shouldn't let shiggles scan? BK there are no rules listed about the realtime stuff of any cutoffs. Is there a reason that a after a certain time someone's fixes won't apply the same day but the next day? Anyone else find an explanation for this?

Oh yeah, all of shiggles' comments of that day are there too just for analysis.
Perhaps someone points this out, but I actually cut the Survivors a break (intentionally) by allowing any scanning. From the rules:

Performing Actions
Except where noted, in order to perform an Action you must PM the GM. Actions will be processed in the order they are received and then posted by the GM. Most actions take place immediately, though repair or conversion actions are not completed until the end of a cycle.

[Barkeep49]

Hopefully you all have discussed this downthread but am happy to hear whether you would like me to run actions that I've received now or wait until tomorrow to resume from the weekend vote only status.

[Barkeep49]

Considering BK hasn't been here all day, I don't think this will end up being a normal day w/lynch because we won't have had opportunity to react to stuff being done in real time (like if you're good and you scanned a Spawn, we wouldn't have time to change our votes to another candidate or try to resubmit orders to cover for a killed person). If BK shows up reasonably soonish maybe that will be a moot point.

I really don't want you to scan Darth because if he's a Spawn, we won't be able to get the conversion work done today when you blow him up (if you aren't Spawn and he is that is). If he's Spawn, he can decide if he wants to fake his work, which would immediately out himself, or completing our work for us.

Sincere apologies, but I was running a workshop all day and thus except for the 15 minute morning break (when I forgot to check the thread as had been my plan) have otherwise been working and as mentioned my Internet was out this morning when I tried to hop on at home. Hopefully that is repaired when I go home now.

Building off of JAGs post here he summarizes my feelings. Given that there are people who've probably been able to do their only check-in for the day, my plan is to simply open actions tomorrow. Voting will remain open until then.

[CrimsonFox]

Vote Shiggles

I'm telling you all you're gonna make a mistake if you kill me

Darth this is the worst post I've ever seen in WW. You say this and leave.
If you're going to reveal, reveal. Otherwise you deserve to be lynched.

[CrimsonFox]

Why would darth say that? NO one is voting for him? His name has been mentioned sure.

I just can't believe he would say something like that.

Yup I definitely want to vote him tomorrow.

[CrimsonFox]

Perhaps someone points this out, but I actually cut the Survivors a break (intentionally) by allowing any scanning. From the rules:

Okay. Yeah the reason things did not seem consistent was the fact that I did work realtime and then Saldana got in a scan realtime., then sibo did work. Then suddenly siggles can't scan realtime for the second one?

That's what didn't seem to mesh with the rules.

[CrimsonFox]

oh okay so we're waiting til tomorrow.

[Julio Riddols]

If the previously presented work plans are still in effect, I will send in my orders tonight then since we're going to run stuff tomorrow. I'll give it the rest of the day so I can confirm that and make sure we're on the same page.

[Chief Rum]

http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/08_06/1962/56197/l_56197_6e261040.jpg

[Danny]

Man. what a lame day!

[CrimsonFox]

Yeah the delay took the wind out of us I think.

So lead us Danny lead us.

There's a new The Darkness single out btw :)

[Danny]

Yeah, I'll have some time tonight. I will actually be very busy tomorrow, so I'll have to get all my analysis all done before then

[Barkeep49]

I really do feel bad about the unexpected delay.

[Darth Vilus]

Darth this is the worst post I've ever seen in WW. You say this and leave.
If you're going to reveal, reveal. Otherwise you deserve to be lynched.

I'm not hinting at anything, I don't have a role. I just meant that you guys would make a mistake by voting me because I'm good. Don't read into it so much

[CrimsonFox]

I just hate it when people say "You guys better not vote me out" cause it tells people nothing. And wolves say that kinda thing all the time when they are backed against a wall.

[Darth Vilus]

Well with all do respect I really don't care if you hate it :)

[CrimsonFox]

don't all villagers have roles?

[Abe Sargent]

don't all villagers have roles?

Do you mean secret roles? Nope - check how many there are on the front page vs the expected number of villagers. I don't want to say whether or not I have a role unless I have to, but I doubt every villager has a role when the numbers are looked at.

[Abe Sargent]

Because of him soloing a lot now, he has several golems in OtherSpace ready to come out if needed.

One of the things that Alzar tends to do is to go back to dungeons a few days after he cleaned them out to double check everything, and make sure he didn’t miss anything the first time around. When teleporting back to the Diag estate, he again looks at the books in the Den, and again, most of them are not worth anything. But one title catches his eye and he pulls it down:

Treasures of Thorasia

This is a libram that outlays many major unique items, much of whom are magical. The book was written 143 years ago, and who knows where they are now. Alzar takes the book back home and peruses it.

The first item on the list that catches Alzar’s eye is a dagger named Bladestar. One of the spells that Alzar will be using to assist is a 6th level Divination spell called Legend Lore. With the detailed information from the text, it should take 1d10 days to find more information about. After 3 days, Alzar finds out where it is – the great city of Chance and how long it’s been there – two weeks. Alzar teleports to the largest city in the world, of more than two million people.

[Abe Sargent]

DAMMIT I did it twice. sorry. I wish i could delete a post

[Chubby]

Do you mean secret roles? Nope - check how many there are on the front page vs the expected number of villagers. I don't want to say whether or not I have a role unless I have to, but I doubt every villager has a role when the numbers are looked at.

more than one villager could have a role so this argument is invalid

[Danny]

Because of him soloing a lot now, he has several golems in OtherSpace ready to come out if needed.

One of the things that Alzar tends to do is to go back to dungeons a few days after he cleaned them out to double check everything, and make sure he didn’t miss anything the first time around. When teleporting back to the Diag estate, he again looks at the books in the Den, and again, most of them are not worth anything. But one title catches his eye and he pulls it down:

Treasures of Thorasia

This is a libram that outlays many major unique items, much of whom are magical. The book was written 143 years ago, and who knows where they are now. Alzar takes the book back home and peruses it.

The first item on the list that catches Alzar’s eye is a dagger named Bladestar. One of the spells that Alzar will be using to assist is a 6th level Divination spell called Legend Lore. With the detailed information from the text, it should take 1d10 days to find more information about. After 3 days, Alzar finds out where it is – the great city of Chance and how long it’s been there – two weeks. Alzar teleports to the largest city in the world, of more than two million people.

Is this some strange spawn language?

[hoopsguy]

Do you mean secret roles? Nope - check how many there are on the front page vs the expected number of villagers. I don't want to say whether or not I have a role unless I have to, but I doubt every villager has a role when the numbers are looked at.

Traditionally, all villagers have secret roles in Spawn games. But they don't all know them at the outset ... criteria need to be met in order to learn your secret role. For example, BK still hasn't told me mine - I'm relying on the info Julio provided to tell me what my role is. But at the end of previous games, when BK posts roles, every villager has had at least one secret role.

[Danny]

VOTE RECAP IN COLOR

Day 1
No votes for execution

Day 2
mauboy 8 - chief (759) simbo (784) abe (918) saldana 923 autumn 1027 jag 1034 chubby (1046) Lonestar 1050
simbo 4 - packerfan (761) CrimsonFox (886) Danny1 976 Zinto 1003
schmidty 1 - mauboy (894)
LSG 1 - dubb (1011)

Day 3
Simbo 1 - Danny1 (1450)
Julio 1 - hoops (1701)
hoops 2 - CR (1643) CF (1732)
dubb 5 - saldana (1486) Abe (1514) Chubby (1636) Simbo (1697)
Danny 8 - Shiggles (1624) JAG (1799) LSG (1802) Autumn (1803) brit (1804) dubb (1814) Zinto (1817) Julio (1836)

Day 4
Chubby 5 - CF (2134) Abe (2297) saldana (2357) brit (2422) Simbo (2440)
Simbo 10 - Shiggles (2336) LSG (2358) CR (2367) Danny2 (2378) Julio (2413) hoops (2431) Chubby (2432) GE (2439) DV (2443) JAG (2445)

No vote Zinto

Day 5
Zinto 12 - Julio (2607) JAG (2612) saldana (2633) CR (2640) Abe (2717) Shiggles (2736) hoops (2784) LSG (2802) Chubby (2804) brit (2805) Danny2 (2811) GE (2859) DV (2866)
CF 1 - CF (2902)

[Danny]

Also, right now we have Chubby and GoldenEagle claiming absolute trust group. I have little doubt that is the case and both should be pretty trusted right now.

We also have Julio claiming to know Hoops' role. Since Hoops hasn't called him out on listing a fake role, we have to assume those two are on the same side. Since it's not like Julio was under a lot of pressure I am likely to believe him. However, I do have one question for him.

Julio, when exactly did you get your successful scan of Hoops back? Before or after the last conversion?

[Danny]

Regardless of the answer, I do feel that puts both of them as unlikely starting spawn.

[Danny]

Looking at the votes, Shiggles has a really good day 4 vote. However it was the first vote plopped down and it may have been a trust buying vote thinking a vote for Simbo wouldn't materialize (as it hadn't the previous two days).

[Danny]

I'm trying to find the list of possible starting spawn. That seems the best place to work through right now to find our next spawn

[Danny]

Shiggles
LSG
Abe
Brit
Darth Vilus

???

[Danny]

LSG also had a good Day 4 vote, but not much else. Abe and Britrock have awful voting records. Darth missed half the votes.

[Danny]

Also, can anyone tell me exactly how our science machine works? We get two random scans? I'll likely wait for that to make my vote, but right now am leaning toward Shiggles or Britrock

[hoopsguy]

Regardless of the answer, I do feel that puts both of them as unlikely starting spawn.

Saldana's scan on me also means I'm not starting spawn.