WW CXLIX SPAWN IV - GAME OVER (Post 3845)

[Danny]

I'd rather not fuck around and kill someone unless we have to or we have good reason to believe they're trying to kill or spawnify us.

I'm sure right now the spawn are happy to lay low and try and mutate all of us. I think moving forward we need to start playing werewolf also.

[LoneStarGirl]

WE have until 10 EST

Wonderful. I thought we were done at 8 Central, so I put my action into Bk 7 minutes ago.

[Zinto]

I assume that we want to lynch someone since it is werewolf. So I will move my vote onto Simbo since eventually we need to start playing eventually.

Unvote Mau
Vote Simbo

[LoneStarGirl]

LSG, this was for you from last page.

I am reading every since post (or at least I think I am) and I am not seeing you ask me to do anything. I dont know if I am seeing JAG and skimming over it, or what.

I wish you could use colors since you are the captain so we would know if it was a direct captain order.

Anyway, I made mauboy a medic. I think if he had a task that made him more involved he would understand that game more and therefore be more involved than he is currently

[LoneStarGirl]

Okay, I see what I did. I skipped over your request to make Shiggles a medic because I was focusing on britrock's paraphrasing of BK's PM.

My bad captain

[Autumn]

Burn her!

[Autumn]

In true paranoid wereolf fashion, I find LSG's actions tonight interesting. She assumed Simbo was going to be lynched when we had, or were close to, a three person tie with Mauboy, Simbo and Schmidty. She then missed JAG's orders, and instead made Mauboy a medic, therefore making it much less likely he is going to get lynched tonight.

[LoneStarGirl]

In true paranoid wereolf fashion, I find LSG's actions tonight interesting. She assumed Simbo was going to be lynched when we had, or were close to, a three person tie with Mauboy, Simbo and Schmidty. She then missed JAG's orders, and instead made Mauboy a medic, therefore making it much less likely he is going to get lynched tonight.

I knew somebody would read way too much into it. But like your 'error' yesterday, this was just an innocent mistake.

Plus, even though it was close to a three way tie, BK said he might not be back for awhile, so I didn't want to put the order in for Simbo to be a medic and he not officially announce it in blue and Simbo get lynched.

[Autumn]

But why not pick any of the 17 people who aren't very close to being executed?

[JAG]

Simbo was never is discussion to be a medic today, in either my or Autumn's summary of actions. It was always Shiggles.

Don't worry about lynching Mau on account of the medic thing, I am modifying her order, which I believe I can do since she is an officer.

[dubb93]

Vote LSG

[dubb93]

I would make a case to lynch LSG, but I think the above people made it for me. In absence of anything else I can't imagine voting for anyone other than her.

[JAG]

If she's bad, we may have cause for concern with Abe because she picked him over Julio for the trainer.

[Abe Sargent]

Do you think that the spawn already got to third down in the rank structure? What missions did LSG go one?

[Autumn]

I was about to make Simbo a medic but I don't want to waste my day action if he's just going to be lynched

This is the post I remembered.

[britrock88]

Britrock, how do you perform this action? Is it a day or night action, or either one?

Day or night action. I'd assume we need the labs to be functioning in order to research. So, now that we scientists have a more important role for the time being, I'll

UNVOTE SCHMIDTY.

Julio, is there nothing for you to do? Are all the conversion supervisors tapped out? Hate that we ended up with a structural gap in manpower today.

[LoneStarGirl]

But why not pick any of the 17 people who aren't very close to being executed?

Honestly I was just looking at minors or engineers, something we have more than one of

[CrimsonFox]

okay so now we have a runaway on simbo :P

[LoneStarGirl]

Do you think that the spawn already got to third down in the rank structure? What missions did LSG go one?

I didn't go on one

[Autumn]

FWIW, I think if we're considering LSG because of her move to "protect' Mauboy, we should probably vote Mauboy. His role isn't as important and if he isn't bad, there's probably no reason to suspect LSG.

[CrimsonFox]

I wonder if there is a LSG/Schmidty team or a lsg/mau team yeah

[CrimsonFox]

Votes:
mauboy 4 - chief (759) simbo (784) abe (918) saldana 923
simbo 7 - packerfan (761) autumn (790) CrimsonFox (886) chubby (903) Danny 976 Lonestar 989 Zinto 1003
schmidty 1 - mauboy (894)
LSG 1 - dubb 1011

[saldana]

Do you think that the spawn already got to third down in the rank structure? What missions did LSG go one?

you are assuming that we didnt have any spawn to start...i find that highly unlikely...that would actually give a chance to never have any spawn in the entire game if the rolls went in our favor for everyone that went out on away missions.

i would be stunned if several people were not already spawnlings/spawn before anyone set foot off the ship

[CrimsonFox]

7 not voted. those could all be spawn :)

my thing was simbo is he didn't show up and when he did he didn't even acknowledge that he was gone. Didn't interact either. Like nothing had happened.

[LoneStarGirl]

So why Shiggles instead of Simbo? Because he has a few more posts? We already lost one miner with Abe, now we only have two.

[britrock88]

Wouldn't Spawn be voting to lynch at this point? It helps their numbers.

[Autumn]

I'm not feeling as great about my vote right now. Two of the people I wonder about are voting with me. And Mauboy's not as bad of a loss, role-wise. But I may still switch back.

<b>unvote simbo klice
vote mauboy1</b>

[LoneStarGirl]

I'm sure right now the spawn are happy to lay low and try and mutate all of us. I think moving forward we need to start playing werewolf also.

Agreed. I don't like the no vote

[CrimsonFox]

simbo is an engineer. We have a TON of work to do on converting all these buildings and none of it gets done without engineers.

we already mined a ton of crystal.

If we ever need more we can have slaves do it really. Would be better to have more roles in the game to help us.

[LoneStarGirl]

So why Shiggles instead of Simbo? Because he has a few more posts? We already lost one miner with Abe, now we only have two.

Or why shingles instead of mauboy?

[Autumn]

simbo is an engineer. We have a TON of work to do on converting all these buildings and none of it gets done without engineers.

we already mined a ton of crystal.

If we ever need more we can have slaves do it really. Would be better to have more roles in the game to help us.

So why are you voting for him?

[CrimsonFox]

So why are you voting for him?

because he seems like a spawn LOL :)

[Abe Sargent]

I;'comfortable with my vote, and I doubt it gets moved barring shenanigans.

Do we know the tie mechaic?

[JAG]

Vote mau

[britrock88]

Have to hit 1/3 of the total, so someone has to have 7 votes on him/her before a lynch happens.

[CrimsonFox]

Votes:
mauboy 5 - chief (759) simbo (784) abe (918) saldana 923 autumn 1027
simbo 6 - packerfan (761) CrimsonFox (886) chubby (903) Danny 976 Lonestar 989 Zinto 1003
schmidty 1 - mauboy (894)
LSG 1 - dubb 1011

[CrimsonFox]

Votes:
mauboy 6 - chief (759) simbo (784) abe (918) saldana 923 autumn 1027 jag 1034
simbo 6 - packerfan (761) CrimsonFox (886) chubby (903) Danny 976 Lonestar 989 Zinto 1003
schmidty 1 - mauboy (894)
LSG 1 - dubb 1011

[CrimsonFox]

please check my votes to make sure they are right.

[JAG]

LSG, a miner is a very minor (sorry) role. They give a small bonus to mining missions, that's it. CF basically made the point above why Simbo's function is more important, by quite a bit I'd say. Without engineers, we can't do any converting.

[Barkeep49]

Internet has been spotty and so I won't be able to process deadline in time. Will be posting at about 10:30

[Autumn]

I don't feel strongly we need to get a lynch here. I feel it's good to have the vote, and get close to a lynch, as I think we learn a lot. I think Mau, LSG and Simbo all make good people to take a close look at going forward.

[CrimsonFox]

it really sucks that simbo is an engineer cause he acted like this during portal :P

[Autumn]

By which I mean if we don't kill one, we can examine and investigate and all sorts of fun things to them.

[CrimsonFox]

of course that's the problem with villagers that don't post too. YOu never get a good read on them.

[CrimsonFox]

By which I mean if we don't kill one, we can examine and investigate and all sorts of fun things to them.

I somewhat suggested the brig but saldana said we have no warden so can't use it. Is that correct? Can't security hold them in there? Can't we just lock em in there?

Hang on. Saldana suggested locking himself and people in there day1. Why is that any different from locking suspects in there now?

[Chubby]

unvote simbo
vote mau

[LoneStarGirl]

LSG, a miner is a very minor (sorry) role. They give a small bonus to mining missions, that's it. CF basically made the point above why Simbo's function is more important, by quite a bit I'd say. Without engineers, we can't do any converting.

Exactly,, which is why I told BK to train mauboy, a miner, into the medic. My question was, why shiggles over mauboy?

[Chubby]

being an engineer saved simbo from my vote tonight

[CrimsonFox]

Exactly,, which is why I told BK to train mauboy, a miner, into the medic. My question was, why shiggles over mauboy?

prbably because he was active and mauboy wasn't. Did you see when jag suggested shiggles?

[LoneStarGirl]

Unvote shimbo

Vote mauboy

I have no issue with this

[Autumn]

Exactly,, which is why I told BK to train mauboy, a miner, into the medic. My question was, why shiggles over mauboy?

Because Shiggles isn't at risk of being executed?

[Autumn]

8-5 Mauboy/Simbo I believe.

[LoneStarGirl]

prbably because he was active and mauboy wasn't. Did you see when jag suggested shiggles?

I did after 8 central, after I put the order in to train mauboy

[CrimsonFox]

Votes:
mauboy 7 - chief (759) simbo (784) abe (918) saldana 923 autumn 1027 jag 1034 chubby (1046)
simbo 5 - packerfan (761) CrimsonFox (886) Danny 976 Lonestar 989 Zinto 1003
schmidty 1 - mauboy (894)
LSG 1 - dubb 1011

[LoneStarGirl]

Because Shiggles isn't at risk of being executed?

That was really the only reason?

[CrimsonFox]

Votes:
mauboy 8 - chief (759) simbo (784) abe (918) saldana 923 autumn 1027 jag 1034 chubby (1046) Lonestar 1050
simbo 4 - packerfan (761) CrimsonFox (886) Danny 976 Zinto 1003
schmidty 1 - mauboy (894)
LSG 1 - dubb 1011

[CrimsonFox]

i almost want to join dubb's vote now.

[Chubby]

oh great LSG piggybacks on my vote, just what I need!

[CrimsonFox]

I still really want to hear from simbo because he's still high on my suspect list for being a main spawn.

[CrimsonFox]

oh great LSG piggybacks on my vote, just what I need!

and now you have cooties

[Autumn]

That was really the only reason?

Would it make sense to assign the task to someone who might be dead? You yourself didn't assign it to Simbo, you said, because you were afraid he might be dead. I don't get what you're not getting. By the time it came time to pick someone for the role, Mauboy already had a bunch of votes.

[JAG]

Exactly,, which is why I told BK to train mauboy, a miner, into the medic. My question was, why shiggles over mauboy?

Why earlier in the day were you discussing Simbo then? Back when it was 4-4-3.

Shiggles over mauboy, initially just because I felt slightly worse about mau than Shiggles, and then later because he wasn't in danger of being lynched.

[Autumn]

JAG, did you assign work for Schmidty?

[Autumn]

SHould you have him research the third option?

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, did mauboy get voted off offically?

[LoneStarGirl]

I thought the vote was due by eight central. At that time Simbo would have been lynched, not mauboy, which is why I picked him.

I missed the jag post about Shiggles.

[Autumn]

Okay, did mauboy get voted off offically?

With secret roles and such, I wouldn't call anything official. But it looks like he should have been offed.

[JAG]

It's all taken care of Autumn, no worries.

I also designated Britrock for study as a trainer in case we decide we want another or a replacement if Abe dies or is found to be spawn. Since he's already a scientist, we don't have to worry about tying up multiple people with supervising his training. And I had an extra AP so what the heck.

[Autumn]

Smart move I think.

[Danny]

Yeah I think we lynched a villager

[Autumn]

Certainly possible. LSG's move seemed like a better case for Spawn activity than Simbo's one post though. As much as I like to listen to my gut, sometimes it's best to play the odds. Especially if we lose a miner rather than an engineer. We can examine Simbo tomorrow, if we like, and know the truth.

[Danny]

Yeah I'm not overly upset about it, he wasn't important for building purposes and we are bound to lynch some villagers as we can use the info later

[Danny]

And who knows maybe we will get a pleasant surprise

[Autumn]

The fact that Mauboy never came back to move his vote doesn't hint strongly at him being a bad guy. But I'm hoping he's off having a hamburger and will curse loudly when he returns to his computer.

[Julio Riddols]

Man, this morning it was all teamwork, now its all pointing fingers. I haven't done shit but get hungover, do dishes and cook this pot roast since we've been here, so it will be nice to be utilized tomorrow. There has to be something I can do other than be lazy and unclean. At least tonight I get to experience a little excitement while I guard the water facility.

[Julio Riddols]

I'm gonna do it in my jammies.

[Barkeep49]

Alright here's what I have (barring secret stuff) for work today. Can someone double check it:

Warehouse 3
Supervised by hoops
Workers: Autumn, Zinto,
Six slaves supervised by Darth
Simbo doing work
Max work done: 7

Officers Offices:
Supervised by hoops
Worker: Packer, dubb (extra unit of work)
10 slaves overseen by Crimson and Chubby
Max work done: 6

[Danny]

Julio your pot roast was awful, let's hope you are better at guarding stuff

[Autumn]

BK, the Officers Offices should be 7 units of work. 5 for the slaves, two for the other guys. Right?

[Autumn]

I'm not sure what (extra unit of work) means though.

[Barkeep49]

I'm not sure what (extra unit of work) means though.
My bad. I forgot I'd changed it so Chief Engineer could supervise 5 people instead of the normal 4.

[Autumn]

phew

[Barkeep49]

The comity which had been present for so long suffered towards the end of the day.
Before that occurs there is some activity, however. First LSG decrees that mauboy become a medic. “Acutally, my faifthful second officer, it is a much better idea for Shiggles to be our new medic,” Captain JAG decides. “Further, britrock I would like you to start training tonight as a trainer while Dr. Schmidty you are to begin research into the Spawn detector immediately.

With the business out of the way, you decide that you must start finding the Spawn before they find you and you turn your attention to mauboy who had been so quiet it was easy to forget that he was even around. Posing as little resistance as possible, he was soon vivisected. What the ravenous crowd finds only indicates that he was a SURVIVOR.

Final vote count:
mauboy 8 - chief (759) simbo (784) abe (918) saldana 923 autumn 1027 jag 1034 chubby (1046) Lonestar 1050
simbo 4 - packerfan (761) CrimsonFox (886) Danny 976 Zinto 1003
schmidty 1 - mauboy (894)
LSG 1 - dubb (1011)

Locations

Building A:
Warehouse 4 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Warehouse 5 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Water Supply – 16 units (Enough reserves for just under 1 day at current consumption)
Crystilium Supply – 64 units (at least 20 required for lift-off)

Slave Pens Fully Operational
Slave Pen 1 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 2 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 3 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 4 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 5 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present

Building B:
Power Facilities Fully Operational
Power Facility 1 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building B
Power Facility 2 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building C
Power Facility 3 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building D
Power Facility 4 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Security Fences
Power Facility 5 5 cycles required for conversion
Back-up

Water Plant Fully Operational 7 cycles required for conversion
Producing enough water for all Survivors each day

Building C:
Security HQ Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion

Armory Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion
19 phasers accounted for

Brig Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion
No crew being held

Building D:
Crew Quarters Fully Operational; 20 sleeping berths 10 cycles required for conversion

Medical Facilities Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion

Scientists’ Lab Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion

Peremiter Fence
Fully Operational

Ship
Warehouse 1 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 2 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 3 Converted Inaccessible
Officers’ Offices Fully Operational Converted


The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG
First Officer - Autumn Exhausted
Second Officer - Lonestargirl
Security Chief - Packerfantic Exhausted
Ensign - Zinto

Chief Engineer - hoopsguy
Engineers
Crimson Exhausted
Darth
Simbo

Medical Staff
Doctor - saldana

Security Staff
Sergeant at Arms - Danny Exhausted
Slavemaster - Chubby
Gally Master - Julio
Security Crewman - Chief Rum Exhausted
Security Crewman - dubb Exhausted

Scientists
Schmidty
britrock

Miners
Shiggles
Abe Sargent

Slaves
20 slaves accounted for

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR

Night 2 has begun

[Julio Riddols]

Julio your pot roast was awful, let's hope you are better at guarding stuff

You ate some already? There's still an hour left on it.

[Julio Riddols]

I got started on it late because I was busy smoking space weed.

[CrimsonFox]

JAg I think you should just do things for everyone. YOu seem to have read the rules. :)

[Shiggles]

Ok ok sorry im back, gonna comment on a few things cause i just got caught up on the thread

[CrimsonFox]

Julio your pot roast was awful, let's hope you are better at guarding stuff

i used lots of ketchup. Made it good then.

[Julio Riddols]

i used lots of ketchup. Made it good then.

Nice to see someone knows how to eat when the odds are stacked against them.

[Shiggles]

So, hey! Mr Jag! i am honored by your request to assign me to medical staff, but those needles scare meee, and isnt it also possible to promote personell to an engineer? i do happen to be good with tools with my mining talents, and since were almost (or entirely?) out of need for mining (unless the spawn can deplete our stores) for the near future, promotion seems the logical choice.

Alas, i was not able to cast a vote, although i woulda probably gone with simbo, i just got back too late. It may be worth a scan for senior simbo, because being an engineer shouldnt be a get out of jail free card unless hes scanned clean. Whats the process for promoting/training?? Seems like if the engineers get all bit up then we'll have some problems though, so i see why people started offing us miners.

[Shiggles]

Errr, does the medic just scan people? or how does it work compared to the doctor?

[Abe Sargent]

Okay I'm going to study onight

[Autumn]

Not much of a survivor.

*rimshot*

[Autumn]

Well, that at least makes me look less at Lonestargirl. Her actions mostly seemed weird to me if they were trying to keep Mauboy out of the vote. I still wonder a bit about her, but not nearly as much.

Glad to see we got our work done without any hiccups. I feel like that all went well today. If we can manage our night actions just as well, we're in a good spot.

[Shiggles]

Ok so medic is able to cure wounds during the day as the only benefit, and has a 15% chance of being doctor if he is killed. Im cool with that, no being trapped in the room with the spawn, unless they took phaser shots, in which case im going to scream out repeatedly and run to lock myself in the brig. any phaser wounds? RUN AWAY!!! :-P.

Ok im totally fine with being medic then, i just hope miss saldana likes her job, cause there's no envy from me lol. fyi, can i increase chances of A. survival of either of us by "assisting" with the scanning procedure? and B. can i increase the chances of becoming a doctor by helping?

[Shiggles]

i guess that last bit should be BOLDED for easy scanning on Mr. Barkeeps part :-)

[Autumn]

i just hope miss saldana likes her job

Quoted for posterity.

[saldana]

Quoted for posterity.

i dont even know if i should put him on blast...he may honestly not know any better, lmao

[Shiggles]

(saldana IS a chick right? cause that would be awkward if she was a dude... lol)

[Autumn]

No one's quite sure, Shiggles. I think she's having some identity confusion issues these days.

[Shiggles]

lol, well just in case, my title is spelled n00b with two zeros, so pardon begging is totally in order ;-)

[Barkeep49]

Ok so medic is able to cure wounds during the day as the only benefit, and has a 15% chance of being doctor if he is killed. Im cool with that, no being trapped in the room with the spawn, unless they took phaser shots, in which case im going to scream out repeatedly and run to lock myself in the brig. any phaser wounds? RUN AWAY!!! :-P.

Ok im totally fine with being medic then, i just hope miss saldana likes her job, cause there's no envy from me lol. fyi, can i increase chances of A. survival of either of us by "assisting" with the scanning procedure? and B. can i increase the chances of becoming a doctor by helping?
Despite you have been around for a cup of coffee and thinking saldana's a woman, no you can't help the doc in anway or increase your chances beyond the 15%.

[Danny]

Saldana might find that offensive, chick is demaning, try woman please

[CrimsonFox]

No one's quite sure, Shiggles. I think she's having some identity confusion issues these days.

I think people get Saldana confused with Madonna. They both have the platinum blonde flowing hair.

[saldana]

(saldana IS a chick right? cause that would be awkward if she was a dude... lol)

welcome to one of the longest running jokes on the board.

i am not a chick

stop causing problems. (one of the even longer running jokes on the board)

[Autumn]

I think people get Saldana confused with Madonna. They both have the platinum blonde flowing hair.

And Lathum has been intimate with both.

[Abe Sargent]

(saldana IS a chick right? cause that would be awkward if she was a dude... lol)

There was a time I tought poli was a chick

[Shiggles]

I think people get Saldana confused with Madonna. They both have the platinum blonde flowing hair.

Lol, fair enough, and duly noted Danny, Saldana will be regarded with utmost care, and whatever they are, they MUST be fully above 18 on the charisma scale due to the "Saldana is amazing" rule, pretty sure that was also on the first page, subtext below one of the roles ya know.

Gotcha mr barkeep, no bonuses, just lots and lots of coffee with the doctor to make up for my mining jargon! after all, its the coffee that separates the miners from the doctors? cause i know engineers get booze, what do miners get guys? water. cause we dont want to die when we work :-).

[Autumn]

So, do our security personnel know what the hell they're doing? It would really suck if that was the team that was infiltrated by spawn. I know Danny suggested some structure for the team earlier today. Let's make sure people follow through on that.

[Shiggles]

welcome to one of the longest running jokes on the board.

i am not a chick

stop causing problems. (one of the even longer running jokes on the board)


lol, sheepish face, my bad >.<

No idea why i assumed, now ill just retreat into the corner and start making funny eye movements at random strangersby, humming all the while

[CrimsonFox]

So, do our security personnel know what the hell they're doing? It would really suck if that was the team that was infiltrated by spawn. I know Danny suggested some structure for the team earlier today. Let's make sure people follow through on that.

I felt okay doing work last night. Was a LITTLe nervous about getting NKed but if they nightkilled I would think they wouldn't get a conversion in and they badly would need to start doing that.

I still was confident they wouldn't Sp0wn me
Especially with all the security guards around.

[Shiggles]

So CF, what are the possibilities you see that the spawn are workin on? you think they started converting people? or are they gearing for a major attack tonight? Or any trap options that they could set?

[britrock88]

Just to be clear for the scientists: Schmidty trained with Abe today? So I should study by myself tonight? (And Abe should study by himself tonight?)

[Autumn]

lol, sheepish face, my bad >.<

No idea why i assumed, now ill just retreat into the corner and start making funny eye movements at random strangersby, humming all the while

I'm quite sure people probably called him a she earlier in the thread, thus giving you the idea. It's quite common.

[CrimsonFox]

Lol, fair enough, and duly noted Danny, Saldana will be regarded with utmost care, and whatever they are, they MUST be fully above 18 on the charisma scale due to the "Saldana is amazing" rule, pretty sure that was also on the first page, subtext below one of the roles ya know.
.

indeed. be gentle with saldana.

[Autumn]

Just to be clear for the scientists: Schmidty trained with Abe today? So I should study by myself tonight? (And Abe should study by himself tonight?)

I think Abe studied with you today,no? So he shouldn't need any more scientist help. Schmidty worked on your new research project.

I don't think you necessarily need to work tonight. You don't want to stay exhausted (or get exhausted).

[britrock88]

Wait, I see. JAG ordered us in advance (ordering Schmidty as well). Man, the rules are a handy resource.

[CrimsonFox]

And Lathum has been intimate with both.

i hope he got an autograph

[britrock88]

Autumn -- I went on the glorious crystal-gathering away mission, so Schmidty would have been the one to work with Abe, assuming someone got an order in for it.

And I think I would agree with your line of thinking and avoid getting exhausted, but it appears beyond my control at this point.

[Autumn]

Oh, you're right britrock.

Why do you think it's beyond your control? You could just sleep.

[britrock88]

If I've been ordered by JAG to train tonight, I don't think I can refuse that order.

[Simbo Klice]

Alright, I'm back. Sorry again for not being around, like I said, completely forgot it started yesterday. And then when I did remember, it was like 30 minutes before work so I prioritized speed reading through to see what was going on and what you guys wanted me to do over having much interaction and defending my absence.

I don't blame you guys for running me up like that, it did seem pretty suspicious that it was right after I got a vote but that just seems to be my luck with timing in Werewolf on this board lately. I guess I'll just accept that I've put myself in the position I'm in and hope a scan clears me- I'll be active from here on out.

[Shiggles]

If I've been ordered by JAG to train tonight, I don't think I can refuse that order.


As long as your protected, or in a safe zone (i think if someone is guarding HQ they count as guarding certain buildings) then exhausted shouldnt matter. And multiple exhaustions i believe are considered not a problem, so just make sure you get sleep the next night if you're worried about it. im sure someone will be watching your back if its been said you are going to be exhausted during the night.

[Danny]

Alright, I'm back. Sorry again for not being around, like I said, completely forgot it started yesterday. And then when I did remember, it was like 30 minutes before work so I prioritized speed reading through to see what was going on and what you guys wanted me to do over having much interaction and defending my absence.

I don't blame you guys for running me up like that, it did seem pretty suspicious that it was right after I got a vote but that just seems to be my luck with timing in Werewolf on this board lately. I guess I'll just accept that I've put myself in the position I'm in and hope a scan clears me- I'll be active from here on out.

Much less aggressive than you were last game after in fact being a villager.

Vote simbo

[Danny]

guess that doesn't count actually

[Shiggles]

guess that doesn't count actually

lol you guys and metagaming

[Shiggles]

whoops wrong quote, the previous post lol. I heard before joining you guys tend to analyze vote history, past behavior, and try to make patterns on how people play, rest assured! i shall be playing a different type of person each game ^.^

[Simbo Klice]

Much less aggressive than you were last game after in fact being a villager.

Vote simbo

'Cause I got outed. You have to be aggressive when you're outed and it's word against word, not that you guys listened to reason anyway.

[Shiggles]

ahhhh. well no one can blame you for it then eh? just danny's interesting observations :-). Ok guys, im out for the night, tonights wombat protection spell? myself and SIMBO! you sir, are the beneficiary of much singing and dancing, and waving sticks above your bunk to ward off the evil JUJU that haunts this planet. Breathe deep! ;-)

[Autumn]

whoops wrong quote, the previous post lol. I heard before joining you guys tend to analyze vote history, past behavior, and try to make patterns on how people play, rest assured! i shall be playing a different type of person each game ^.^

Get ready for a lot of votes then ;-)

[Autumn]

Oh I see what you're talking about Britrock. I don't think JAG ordered you to train as a trainer. He just spent his own action point to enable you to become a trainer. You could start putting in the study time if you want, but it is up to you.

[CrimsonFox]

So CF, what are the possibilities you see that the spawn are workin on? you think they started converting people? or are they gearing for a major attack tonight? Or any trap options that they could set?


badguys are always doing something when they can. If they aren't killing then they are converting or something worse. They can also be blocked whatever they are doing by people.

[Simbo Klice]

ahhhh. well no one can blame you for it then eh? just danny's interesting observations :-). Ok guys, im out for the night, tonights wombat protection spell? myself and SIMBO! you sir, are the beneficiary of much singing and dancing, and waving sticks above your bunk to ward off the evil JUJU that haunts this planet. Breathe deep! ;-)

Sounds fun. :lol: I must warn you that my secret role is Hibernator, and if disturbed from my sleep I rise in a rage and kill the nearest living thing while still in my tighty whities.

[CrimsonFox]

'Cause I got outed. You have to be aggressive when you're outed and it's word against word, not that you guys listened to reason anyway.

he DOES have a remarkably HUGE point here ;)

[Simbo Klice]

he DOES have a remarkably HUGE point here ;)

Yeah, I do modify my style of play when the situation necessitates it, but I do usually like to hang back and let guys like you and Autumn do the heavy lifting in the early stages... I try to wait for the endgame before I put up a large post count (as that can be equated with a target all too often, especially when you're playing well).

One other thing- you guys always try to vote me when I leave or am not here- You want to vote me, VOTE TO MY FACE! :D

[CrimsonFox]

Yeah, I do modify my style of play when the situation necessitates it, but I do usually like to hang back and let guys like you and Autumn do the heavy lifting in the early stages... I try to wait for the endgame before I put up a large post count (as that can be equated with a target all too often, especially when you're playing well).

One other thing- you guys always try to vote me when I leave or am not here- You want to vote me, VOTE TO MY FACE! :D

That's too boring. We only vote for people that don't defend themselves.

[Simbo Klice]

That's too boring. We only vote for people that don't defend themselves.

What??? Making people wriggle on the hook is the best part!

[CrimsonFox]

What??? Making people wriggle on the hook is the best part!

So where were you yesterday? Why wdidn't you stop by? Are you a spawn?!?

[Simbo Klice]

So where were you yesterday? Why wdidn't you stop by? Are you a spawn?!?

Yesterday as in 6/18? I was balls deep in Civ V, my brother Frankensteined my laptop with my desktop and I was just getting a chance to play it for the first time in a while. Yesterday as in 6/19 I was at work from 2-11. So I either didn't stop by because I was too busy infuriating Darius I or because I was working for the Devil. And I'll plead the fifth on the spawn question, I like it out here on the firing line.

[Autumn]

Yesterday as in 6/18? I was balls deep in Civ V, my brother Frankensteined my laptop with my desktop and I was just getting a chance to play it for the first time in a while. Yesterday as in 6/19 I was at work from 2-11. So I either didn't stop by because I was too busy infuriating Darius I or because I was working for the Devil. And I'll plead the fifth on the spawn question, I like it out here on the firing line.

Given that we could have an Empath in the game, perhaps you can cancel the 5th and answer the question.

[Autumn]

And just to be fair:

I am not a Spawn.

[Abe Sargent]

I always made it that a soothsayer empath sort of role couldn't be used on the obligatory "I am not a wolf" post

[Autumn]

Thank God we're not playing in your game, Abe.

[Simbo Klice]

Given that we could have an Empath in the game, perhaps you can cancel the 5th and answer the question.

Ah forgot about that- ok, I am not a Spawn.

[Simbo Klice]

Alright, that's me finished for the night.

[Abe Sargent]

Thank God we're not playing in your game, Abe.

I love you too!!!

[CrimsonFox]

abe has been so quiet and mysterious, but he's been studying. Or he says he's studying in thread and is actually not studying. Is there proof of abe actually doing things?

[CrimsonFox]

Yesterday as in 6/18? I was balls deep in Civ V, my brother Frankensteined my laptop with my desktop and I was just getting a chance to play it for the first time in a while. Yesterday as in 6/19 I was at work from 2-11. So I either didn't stop by because I was too busy infuriating Darius I or because I was working for the Devil. And I'll plead the fifth on the spawn question, I like it out here on the firing line.


was kinda kidding. but tsk tsk playing civ v instead of ww. ah well. shiggles knows what that's all about...doesn't shiggles...

[Autumn]

I think finding which people are pretending to do things at night is going to be key over the next few days.

As for me, I'm going to bed! See you all.

[Danny]

I feel really good about at least two of my fellow security personnel, Chief and Dubb

[Danny]

Not sure about Chubby and especially Julio at this point.

[Abe Sargent]

abe has been so quiet and mysterious, but he's been studying. Or he says he's studying in thread and is actually not studying. Is there proof of abe actually doing things?

I've been quiet? You've not seen proof of my studying? Are you maybe seeing a different game than the rest of us?

[Julio Riddols]

Not sure about Chubby and especially Julio at this point.

Hey, my cooking aside, I'm doin' my part to get us off this rock. You'll keep me around if you know whats good for ya.. Not nutritionally- but I'll keep our shit in order.

[Julio Riddols]

now i'm gonna go patrol for the night. Don't let me catch any of you higher ups doing anything I don't approve of.

[CrimsonFox]

I've been quiet? You've not seen proof of my studying? Are you maybe seeing a different game than the rest of us?

not "schmidty" quiet mind you, but most of your posts have been smartass comments and jokes. Mind you I really have no idea how you behave as a player either way in WW. Granted starting out as a miner there isn't much to say other than trying to add to conversations, but now that you're a trainer I at least expected you to let us know what was going on with it and how training works and what your ideas are about who to train for what.

But granted some people play this game with total secrecy as a villager. So as I said. I don't know much about you either way.

[Danny]

Just want to say good job to Autumn so far for your activity and organization.

[CrimsonFox]

Just want to say good job to Autumn so far for your activity and organization.

probably means he'll be a lynch candidate soon ;)

[Abe Sargent]

but most of your posts have been smartass comments and jokes.



ummm...I was one of the firs tones to push for no vote yesterday, and today when the vote seemed to be moving i na two man race, I moved to keep mauboy in it and keep things interesting. If that's your definition of "quiet" then you need to get a new dictionary. Might I suggest:


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quiet?s=t

:)

[CrimsonFox]

ummm...I was one of the firs tones to push for no vote yesterday, and today when the vote seemed to be moving i na two man race, I moved to keep mauboy in it and keep things interesting. If that's your definition of "quiet" then you need to get a new dictionary. Might I suggest:


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quiet?s=t

:)

that's my favorite definition sight! And it has a link to bible quotes!

Seriously, just want to hear more from you. Or maybe I expected to hear more as far as game-related planning. And granted I love a good smartass comment as much as the next guy. But I don't really call voting to mean "not quiet" though. BUt I'm glad you're answering my comments at least. :) That's what being "not quiet" is to me. :)

[CrimsonFox]

Man, Julio's potroast gave me the runs. I dedicate tonight's poop to Narcizo who should be here but isn't because he missed the spaceship.

I wonder if the roast was roast spawn.

[Danny]

Narcizo who should be here but isn't because he missed the spaceship.


Or did he????

[CrimsonFox]

Not sure about Chubby and especially Julio at this point.

Danny, why are you suspicious of Julio?
He's been here at least. Granted he's not had a lot to do just being a miner and having his orders given to him.

Hmmm I guess I'm doublestandarding abe as that's the same case for him.

[Danny]

Not suspicious of him, but not trusting either. Him and Chubby are in middle ground.

[JAG]

We should have one of the scientists help Abe with his studying tonight so he can complete his trainer studying.

[CrimsonFox]

We should have one of the scientists help Abe with his studying tonight so he can complete his trainer studying.


who are you talking to JAG? :) Isn't it a little late to ask people for that? Or are you saying that's the orders you're giving them.

[JAG]

Night orders aren't due for a couple hours yet I believe, so I'm talking to whoever gets here first between Schmidty and Britrock, assuming one of them hopefully logs on before they are due. If they don't, Abe should probably just sleep tonight.

[JAG]

BK, was W3 successfully converted? I don't believe it was listed on the report.

[Chubby]

Off to work til 3. I think shit is going down at work today so not sure if ill be able to post when I go to the bank lr not

[CrimsonFox]

Off to work til 3. I think shit is going down at work today so not sure if ill be able to post when I go to the bank lr not


chubby I think JAG can PM your orders to BK for you based on what our needs are. But of course always nice to see your smiling face. :)

[CrimsonFox]

Night orders aren't due for a couple hours yet I believe, so I'm talking to whoever gets here first between Schmidty and Britrock, assuming one of them hopefully logs on before they are due.

dream on, high commander, dream on...:)

[hoopsguy]

JAG, since you are around and probably a bit more on top of things than me at this point - I'm looking to do some work on converting buildings this evening. Which one should I be targeting?

Any other engineers that arrive in time this morning - join me on a building and the two of us can get 6 points done.

[hoopsguy]

Dola - fell asleep last night (got one hour of sleep the night before) and missed the vote. Very unlike me, and it appears that it was a significant one. If we put together a vote/unvote chart from yesterday I get the sense that there may be some protection going on there. In particular, I want to see how big the Simbo lead got before it was dialed back down and Mauboy ended up on the receiving end.

[JAG]

JAG, since you are around and probably a bit more on top of things than me at this point - I'm looking to do some work on converting buildings this evening. Which one should I be targeting?

Any other engineers that arrive in time this morning - join me on a building and the two of us can get 6 points done.

I don't have a lot of time to look at this unfortunately, but I know Julio had a post with thoughts on a conversion order of things. I don't know that it's the most effective way to go, but it was one set of thoughts. I don't think we want to do crew quarters yet, we could maybe do one of the power facilities since we have a backup available. I wouldn't do the one that connects with the perimeter fence though.

[CrimsonFox]

Hey guys. Was looking at things too. Why would we need to convert things that don't need converted? Do we need that stuff in space? I assumed that when the credits role during liftoff that we are home free! This isn't Aliens (2) after all! :)

[hoopsguy]

No, liftoff is not the end of the game. It just takes some options away from Spawn (and us) in terms of turning the game into a more standard WW game ... oversimplification, but that is what the lift-off means.

[CrimsonFox]

My proposed order of operations, even though I am not calling the shots:

Assuming we have 40 water backing us up:

1. Warehouse 3 (7 cycles)
2. Officer Offices (7 cycles)
--
3. Armory (4)
4. Brig (4)
5. Power Facility 5 (5)
--
6. Sci Lab (2)
7. Med Facilities (4)
8. Security HQ (2)
9. Power Facility 2 (5)
--
10. Water Plant (7)
11. Power Facility 1 (5)
--
12. Power Facility 4 (5)
13. Warehouse 5 (7)

We use 20 water from the warehouse to get through the day unscathed.
--
14. Crew Quarters (10) Going without water for a day to help weed out spawn.

Then we GTFO, hopefully with some added info as to who are spawn and who are not. We can get un-dehydrated when we get back on the ship.

This may be a flawed view of it, but this leaves everything requiring less work as time goes on, to try and compensate for any loss of workers. It also allows us to get on the ship with some added info once we get dehydrated on that last day.

Okay here was julio's list. okay the first problem with it is that taking the armory and brig they are unusable until the Security HQ gets there. But BK said that if we convert the Security HQ onto the ship, the armory AND the brig still work on the ground.

One thing the discussions seem to be missing is that the way I understand it, things that are converted to the ship are still usable to us. They just won't be in operation until they are COMPLETELY converted. It doesn't seem like you guys think that. I think that's how it works. BK please tell me if this is true.

[JAG]

BK, did the research Schmidty did use up any of our stores of crystlium?

[JAG]

Hey guys. Was looking at things too. Why would we need to convert things that don't need converted? Do we need that stuff in space? I assumed that when the credits role during liftoff that we are home free! This isn't Aliens (2) after all! :)

We probably want things like the science lab and medical place on the ship at least even if they aren't necessary, since those facilities would be pretty useful to have (I think, though we don't know exactly what we can / can't do without them).

[hoopsguy]

Lift-off
In order to lift-off, the Power Facilities must not be damaged, the Cargo Hold must have the required amount of Crystlium, and all required buildings must be converted. The Captain orders the lift-off by posting the order in the thread. Once all conditions are met lift-off takes place immediately.

After lift-off no new spawn may be planted (although Spawn may still evolve).

I guess I'm missing the part in the rules about what the required buildings are that must be converted.

[CrimsonFox]

I think we definitely need to move the water during a time we have a LOT of extra water and we should expect it to take 2 days. (we will try for one and settle for two in case)

[JAG]

I think Julio revised that list at some point also CF. A couple times in fact, if you have time to look, only 40 mins til deadline.

[CrimsonFox]

I guess I'm missing the part in the rules about what the required buildings are that must be converted.


It is listed in the description of each building. A couple of people summarized that. I'll try and find one of those.

[hoopsguy]

The Ship
In this game the Survivors must construct the ship they will use to escape the planet. This will happen by converting Planet Facilities into Ship Modules. The following must be present for the ship to take off:

Power Facilities (at least 4 of the 5)
Water Processing
Cargo Holds 1-3
CrewQuarters
Officers’ Offices

It is optional as to whether the other Planet Facilities are converted. Once a facility is converted into a Ship Module, it provides no benefit, except where noted, until after Lift-Off.


So this tells me what not to convert, but I don't know (probably missing this) how much conversion needs to happen to make the ship we need to take off.

Does the conversion of Power Facilties turn the land-based power facility into a ship-based power facility?

[hoopsguy]

Since we have to have 4 of the 5 power facilities done, that seems like a decent place to go - I'm going to submit a PM to work on #2 (brig/armory/securityHQ). Crimson, if you join me we should get 6 cycles done.

[hoopsguy]

Order submitted, back on later this morning.

[saldana]

Given that we could have an Empath in the game, perhaps you can cancel the 5th and answer the question.

coerced statements will always come back true...you cant make anyone say something to be tested

[CrimsonFox]

Since we have to have 4 of the 5 power facilities done, that seems like a decent place to go - I'm going to submit a PM to work on #2 (brig/armory/securityHQ). Crimson, if you join me we should get 6 cycles done.

are you certain we can use 6 cycles split across 3 things like that? BK can we?

I will submit the conditional order however to help you Hoops.
Also tho will wait to make sure we can use all this stuff while it is on the ship while we are still here.

[JAG]

He means the power facility that controls those three areas.

[CrimsonFox]

oh. but then we can't use the brig or armory or hq. Shit this sucks. DAMN YOU GODFORSAKEN ROCK! DAMN YOU TO HELLLLLLLLLLLLL!

[hoopsguy]

oh. but then we can't use the brig or armory or hq. Shit this sucks. DAMN YOU GODFORSAKEN ROCK! DAMN YOU TO HELLLLLLLLLLLLL!

Well, we won't be finishing them yet - just near completion, right? So that leaves additional discussion for others today on when we should finish that building conversion.

I believe we could use the spare to power those buildings for now, if we want to go ahead and finish things up. That is why I didn't choose the spare - I wanted us to have greater flexibility. The other choices were water (that was a pretty quick no for me) and scientists (again, wanted discussion but this was "runner-up" for me).

[Barkeep49]

ummm...I was one of the firs tones to push for no vote yesterday, and today when the vote seemed to be moving i na two man race, I moved to keep mauboy in it and keep things interesting. If that's your definition of "quiet" then you need to get a new dictionary. Might I suggest:


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quiet?s=t

:)
Dictionary.com does all sorts of tracking of visitors so I recommend getting a different dictionary than that :)

[CrimsonFox]

hoops since it isn't day yet mwe probably have to wait until BK says it's day and posts night results.

[JAG]

Well, we won't be finishing them yet - just near completion, right? So that leaves additional discussion for others today on when we should finish that building conversion.

I believe we could use the spare to power those buildings for now, if we want to go ahead and finish things up. That is why I didn't choose the spare - I wanted us to have greater flexibility. The other choices were water (that was a pretty quick no for me) and scientists (again, wanted discussion but this was "runner-up" for me).

All that plus no power doesn't mean we can't use the buildings at all, just that "certain functions" are not allowed.

[Barkeep49]

BK, was W3 successfully converted? I don't believe it was listed on the report.

It was. I had some problems with my GoogleDoc where I was doing the writeup. Thanks for pointing this out.

[Barkeep49]

Any place requiring power will lose functionality when converted to the ship before liftoff. The power on the ship is an "all or nothing" situation. Once the 4 required power facilities are present on the ship anything requiring power will work again. The following places remain functional on the ship after conversion but before liftoff:
Officers Offices
Crew Quarters
Warehouses 1-5

[CrimsonFox]

well shit we're fucked.

[JAG]

So crew quarters should be next if we do it all in one shot.

[hoopsguy]

well shit we're fucked.

Not sure I follow ...

[Autumn]

So there's a bigger lag for anything that is powered. We would have to move it, anything else that's powered, and then move all the power facilities. That's rough.

[CrimsonFox]

Not sure I follow ...


well, things that require power (aka anything useful) won't work until we get all FOUR power things converted PLUS each of the rooms themselves. Because while we are converting the power facilities, none of the shit hooked into it will work. So we're talking days and days of most of the useful buildings not working. And we haven't even gotten to needing repairs yet.

[Autumn]

Yeah, Crew quarters need 10 cycles, so we should be able to knock those off today. We should be able to do something else as well, if we hold off on any missions.

[CrimsonFox]

Autumn, how much water and crystals do we have in storage?

[Autumn]

Maybe we move the backup power one day. Then 15 cycles to move the 3 other power facilities, so we could try that in one fell swoop another day.

[Autumn]

We have 64 crystals and 16 water I believe.

[Julio Riddols]

Okay here was julio's list. okay the first problem with it is that taking the armory and brig they are unusable until the Security HQ gets there. But BK said that if we convert the Security HQ onto the ship, the armory AND the brig still work on the ground.

One thing the discussions seem to be missing is that the way I understand it, things that are converted to the ship are still usable to us. They just won't be in operation until they are COMPLETELY converted. It doesn't seem like you guys think that. I think that's how it works. BK please tell me if this is true.

Thats the unrevised list.

[CrimsonFox]

Thats the unrevised list.

yeah I've been made aware that I was wrong, thank you :)

[Julio Riddols]

So there's a bigger lag for anything that is powered. We would have to move it, anything else that's powered, and then move all the power facilities. That's rough.

Why not just finish the remaining facilities in the Officers HQ then, and convert the power station for them. We would be able to still use them at that point, right?

[JAG]

No, we have to convert 4 power facilities to use any buildings that require power on the ship.

[Julio Riddols]

That would mean Armory, Brig, and power facility 2.

Sure it puts us behind, but those things would be nice to have on the ship I suppose. This is, of course, contingent on whether we can still use them here once they have been converted (not just when we lift off).

[CrimsonFox]

No, we have to convert 4 power facilities to use any buildings that require power on the ship.

AND convert ALL of those buildings too! AND any power facilities we convert we forever lose any buildings that we aren't going to convert.

[Julio Riddols]

No, we have to convert 4 power facilities to use any buildings that require power on the ship.

OH. I see. Shit. I see shit.

[CrimsonFox]

OH. I see. Shit. I see shit.


you see dead shit?

[Julio Riddols]

Have we finished the officer HQ yet? Are we able to just get everything within one unit of full conversion and still use it?

[CrimsonFox]

this could solve things for me:

execute Crimsonfox

[JAG]

Any place requiring power will lose functionality when converted to the ship before liftoff. The power on the ship is an "all or nothing" situation. Once the 4 required power facilities are present on the ship anything requiring power will work again. The following places remain functional on the ship after conversion but before liftoff:
Officers Offices
Crew Quarters
Warehouses 1-5

If we convert 4 power facilities, can we use buildings that require power on the ship prior to liftoff?

[Julio Riddols]

I know with the crew quarters that would mean only 2 people can sleep.. But how would it affect other buildings?

[CrimsonFox]

Have we finished the officer HQ yet? Are we able to just get everything within one unit of full conversion and still use it?

yes we have and we can only use things we convert that require no power. (sleeping places and storage and junk with no special thigns)

[JAG]

BK, modification to my question so it's clear:

If we convert 4 power facilities, can we use CONVERTED buildings that require power on the ship prior to liftoff?

[Autumn]

Okay, this isn't too bad actually with the numbers.

Power Facilities (4) - 20 cycles (5 each)

Water Plant - 7 cycles

Crew Quarters - 10 cycles

These are, I believe, all that is mandatory for lift-off. If we do the quarters today, and one power facility (15 cycles of work), then we would have to do 22 the next day to be ready for liftoff (at a bare minimum). If we can do more than 15 cycles today we could get the water plant partially ready.

Once we moved that power, we would have no perimeter fence, no security HQ (2), brig (4) or armory (4), no scientists quarters (2), or medics facilities (4). So basically we have to decide which of those things we need and add them into the queue. We aren't using the brig, so we could stick to the others and just need 8 more cycles of work. Let's figure out how much we could do in a day.

[hoopsguy]

Oh - I guess that is already how I had interpreted this when looking at it this morning. So yeah, we have to make some hard choices.

Might be worth getting all of the facilities close to completion, then trying to bite the bullet on one day/night where we finalize them all rather than having stuff staggered and having multiple days where some buildings/services are not available to us.

[Julio Riddols]

All I know is that I want us to all get dehydrated the day before we get on the ship.

[JAG]

I know with the crew quarters that would mean only 2 people can sleep.. But how would it affect other buildings?

BK said yesterday we don't know what would happen if the crew quarters are partially converted. That might go for other buildings.

[CrimsonFox]

if hoops and i worked together that's 6 of the crew quarters. just need 4 more points (will leave it to autumn to come up with those points)

[Julio Riddols]

Guess we have to do it and find out.

[CrimsonFox]

All I know is that I want us to all get dehydrated the day before we get on the ship.

why you gonna make us another diarrhea-inducing potroast?

[CrimsonFox]

BK, modification to my question so it's clear:

If we convert 4 power facilities, can we use CONVERTED buildings that require power on the ship prior to liftoff?

i'm pretty sure he said yes to that. They work again once the 4 are on board.

[CrimsonFox]

give me a gun and I'll just shoot you all. Then I will do all the work and go home.

[CrimsonFox]

that is my solution...by me.

[JAG]

Okay, this isn't too bad actually with the numbers.

Power Facilities (4) - 20 cycles (5 each)

Water Plant - 7 cycles

Crew Quarters - 10 cycles

These are, I believe, all that is mandatory for lift-off. If we do the quarters today, and one power facility (15 cycles of work), then we would have to do 22 the next day to be ready for liftoff (at a bare minimum). If we can do more than 15 cycles today we could get the water plant partially ready.

Once we moved that power, we would have no perimeter fence, no security HQ (2), brig (4) or armory (4), no scientists quarters (2), or medics facilities (4). So basically we have to decide which of those things we need and add them into the queue. We aren't using the brig, so we could stick to the others and just need 8 more cycles of work. Let's figure out how much we could do in a day.

My initial thought is the last things we convert are the research/medical facilities, the facility that gives them power, and the water providing building for the absolute last things. We leave the power facility that powers the fence because we don't want that to go down.

[Autumn]

Might be worth getting all of the facilities close to completion, then trying to bite the bullet on one day/night where we finalize them all rather than having stuff staggered and having multiple days where some buildings/services are not available to us.

This is a good idea too, though it leaves things vulnerable to being damaged and needing repair. but we could try to get everything very close to being done. Trouble is we can only work on three things a day basically. Well, a max of four if Hoops supervises two locations.

[Autumn]

So as far as I can see the maximum we could possibly do in a day is 15 cycles. Hoops can do a maximum of 6, either by working with Chubby, or working with an engineer. An engineer can do a maximum of 6 by working with Hoops, 5 working with Chubby, or 4 otherwise. So the maximum we can pull off is 6, 5 and 4, for a total of 15. Anyone disagree?

[JAG]

i'm pretty sure he said yes to that. They work again once the 4 are on board.

Except after that he listed the places that work when converted prior to liftoff and those places weren't listed. You're probably right, but I would like to make sure I understand before we plan this and say oops when we find out otherwise.

[Autumn]

Except after that he listed the places that work when converted prior to liftoff and those places weren't listed. You're probably right, but I would like to make sure I understand before we plan this and say oops when we find out otherwise.

I think he was listing places that don't need power to work on the ship.

[JAG]

So as far as I can see the maximum we could possibly do in a day is 15 cycles. Hoops can do a maximum of 6, either by working with Chubby, or working with an engineer. An engineer can do a maximum of 6 by working with Hoops, 5 working with Chubby, or 4 otherwise. So the maximum we can pull off is 6, 5 and 4, for a total of 15. Anyone disagree?

I worked out our max yesterday to 18 I think, but it would require a lot of manpower to do it that way. 15 I think is the most realistic max.

[Autumn]

I'm not sure how that 18 is possible though, so if you figure it out, let me know. Hoops can only supervise 5 people, each of the ...

oh! I forgot an engineer. I was only counting two of them!

[Autumn]

So I think 19 is our max then, 6, 5, 4, 4.

And we have about 45 cycles of work to do before lift off. So we should be able, without dealing with repairs, to do it in three days (or less if we work nights).

[Autumn]

Ugh, no that's not right, hold on.

[Autumn]

Hoops+5 = 5

Engineer+chubby = 5

Engineer+4 = 4

Engineer+4 = 4

Yes, you're right JAG, 18 is the max, if we had 13 workers.

[Autumn]

Hoops+Engineer = 6

Engineer+Chubby = 5

Engineer+4 = 4

This only requires four workers, but gives us 15.

[Autumn]

Hoops+slaves = 4

Engineer+Chubby = 5

Engineer+4 = 4

Engineer+4 = 4

This requires 8 workers, gives us 17

[Autumn]

Hoops+5 = 5

Engineer+Chubby = 5

Engineer+4 = 4

Engineer+slaves = 3

This requires 9 workers, 17

[Barkeep49]

Once again, only a small amount of night work occurs. It seems people are more afraid of exhaustion than the Spawn at this point. One who is not afraid of exhaustion is, Hoopsguy who once again is working through the night, this time on Power Facility 2.

He is not the only one seen to be active at night. Abe & britrock are completing Abe’s training to be a trainer in the Science Labs and Julio is seen outside the Warehouses in Building A while Chubby is similarly seen outside of the Slave Pens. Meanwhile Danny & dubb are seen lurking in the Crew Quarters.

In the morning you once again see everyone is accounted for. People are enjoying their oatmeal when the blaring klaxon of a warning alarm goes off. It seems as though the Perimeter Fence is beginning to fail. At first glance it doesn’t appear to be damaged in any sort of way. There are three options, any or all of which can be used. Engineers can attempt to repair it, you can attempt to power it from the back-up Power Facility, or an Engineer can study it to try and determine why despite the lack of damage it seems to be failing.

Locations

Building A:
Warehouse 4 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Warehouse 5 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Water Supply – 16 units (Enough reserves for just under 1 day at current consumption)
Crystilium Supply – 64 units (at least 20 required for lift-off)

Slave Pens Fully Operational
Slave Pen 1 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 2 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 3 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 4 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 5 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present

Building B:
Power Facilities Undamaged
Power Facility 1 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building B
Power Facility 2 3 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building C
Power Facility 3 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building D
Power Facility 4 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Security Fences
Power Facility 5 5 cycles required for conversion
Back-up

Water Plant Fully Operational 7 cycles required for conversion
Producing enough water for all Survivors each day

Building C:
Security HQ Operational 2 cycles required for conversion

Armory Operational 4 cycles required for conversion
18 phasers accounted for

Brig No power; Inaccessible 4 cycles required for conversion
No crew being held

Building D:
Crew Quarters Fully Operational; 20 sleeping berths 10 cycles required for conversion

Medical Facilities Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion

Scientists’ Lab Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion

Peremiter Fence
Operational but failing

Ship
Warehouse 1 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 2 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 3 Converted Inaccessible
Officers’ Offices Fully Operational Converted


The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG
First Officer - Autumn
Second Officer - Lonestargirl
Security Chief - Packerfantic
Ensign - Zinto

Chief Engineer - hoopsguy Exhausted
Engineers
Crimson
Darth
Simbo

Medical Staff
Doctor - saldana
Medic - Shiggles

Security Staff
Sergeant at Arms - Danny Exhausted
Slavemaster - Chubby Exhausted
Gally Master - Julio Exhausted
Security Crewman - Chief Rum
Security Crewman - dubb Exhausted

Scientists
Schmidty
britrock Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent Exhausted

Slaves
20 slaves accounted for

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR

Day 3 has begun

[JAG]

We could possibly squeeze out 16/17 if we use slaves in place of people for those last two engineers.

[Barkeep49]

BK, modification to my question so it's clear:

If we convert 4 power facilities, can we use CONVERTED buildings that require power on the ship prior to liftoff?

Once the 4 PF have been converted to the ship, any facilities requiring power will work on the ship before lift-off, that is correct.

[Autumn]

So. How many workers have we got? If we don't do any missions, and I don't plan any:

Autumn, Autumn
Zinto
Lonestargirl?
JAG?
Shiggles
PackerFanatic
Chief Rum
Julio Riddols

So it's feasible we could have 8 workers and do 17 cycles of work.

[JAG]

Nice job Britrock.

[Autumn]

Here we go. Looks like the Slave Pens are failing too.

[Autumn]

It's probably just a short, I'll go check it out alone ...

oh wait, no.

[CrimsonFox]

Hmmmmm who to vote for...how about Schmidty, Darth and Zinto until they contribute

vote schmidty

[JAG]

First thought is we should have an engineer study the fence to find out why it's failing. Trying to repair it or use a backup power source might be futile when we don't know what's wrong with it.