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JAG
06-27-2012, 01:28 PM
Wait, the water plant only needs 2 cycles for repair, why do all 3 of us need to repair them? Are we going to ignore the crew's quarters?

Because if one of us was a Spawn, they could fake their work.

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 01:30 PM
And just so everyone knows it was me who attacked Britrock last night.
I thought that since he and I were the ones up for discussion (and I'm good) there was a good chance of nailing a spawn.

It was unsuccessful obviously, didnt know how to get my hands on a phaser without being obvious

britrock88
06-27-2012, 01:34 PM
Hmm... that could just as obviously be a spawn's attempt to explain away an unsuccessful attack.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 01:35 PM
Then why would I share that information? If I were a Spawn what benefit does that give me?

britrock88
06-27-2012, 01:36 PM
Well, the wounded player has already announced that he's been attacked. And the spawn are the likeliest to attack players, no?

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 01:38 PM
Can you really imagine a Spawn failing? And no, My secret role was the Vigilante. I lied about not having a role last time

britrock88
06-27-2012, 01:38 PM
BTW, thanks to my newly learned-of Gut Feeling role, I know that one of JAG and Danny is a light sleeper. Good for their defensive abilities!

britrock88
06-27-2012, 01:39 PM
(I had two votes on me last night, which is why I learned of my role and the other player's role.)

britrock88
06-27-2012, 01:40 PM
Can you really imagine a Spawn failing? And no, My secret role was the Vigilante. I lied about not having a role last time

Sure, I can imagine a spawn failing.

Regular Attacks

An attack starts with a 75% chance of success.

A 25% chance of a spawn failing, in fact.

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 01:41 PM
No clue what you're talking about, when I attacked you no one came to your aid

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 01:42 PM
Sure, I can imagine a spawn failing.



A 25% chance of a spawn failing, in fact.

Again, It would have been most beneficial to me (if I were a spawn) TO KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT ABOUT IT!!!!!

britrock88
06-27-2012, 01:42 PM
Oh, I'm not saying anyone came to my aid. I'm just saying there's a 25% chance of a spawn's attack failing in general.

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 01:43 PM
What was he comment about the light sleepers then?

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 01:44 PM
Vote Britrock

Everyone else can take my info and do what they wish with it

Abe Sargent
06-27-2012, 01:53 PM
Does anyone else feel like we just watched a play?

Abe Sargent
06-27-2012, 01:57 PM
Imagine that britrock is a spawn. Today he's wounded from his attack last night:

From the rules: When an attack occurs, you never really know for sure who is going to win. Either party involved in an attack may end up WOUNDED.


So he got caught, and now the heat is on and he's looking to get lynched. So the last spawn claims he attacked britrock at night with Vigilante and it failed, britrock is lynched, reveals as a spawn, and suddenly the last wolf/spawn looks really good. He can say, "Why would I reveal if I were a spawn?" and look good doing it.

The spawn already played this game once with Zinto. Remember when he was looking to be the lynch guy, so he came out, forced all of our people out and wasted a day. They've already shown a willingness to be cutthroat when a spawn is on the table early.

Danny
06-27-2012, 02:05 PM
I suppose that is possible. Either way I am confident in our vote today.

Abe Sargent
06-27-2012, 02:07 PM
Of course, if britrock is a survivor, then that all goes south by the window, but if he's a spawn, I don;t take DV off my short list for this, you know?

Chubby
06-27-2012, 03:01 PM
Can you really imagine a Spawn failing? And no, My secret role was the Vigilante. I lied about not having a role last time

We had 2 vigilantes this game, what are the odds of that?

oh right....

vote DV

this could clearly be DV trying to buy trust for brit (overlord?) but I was going to vote DV anyways today so he made my argument for me

Barkeep49
06-27-2012, 03:05 PM
Nothing wrong with a little extra reinforcement down by the Water Plant, DV seems to figure as he heads down to help repair.

Chubby
06-27-2012, 03:06 PM
Nothing wrong with a little extra reinforcement down by the Water Plant, DV seems to figure as he heads down to help repair.

/snicker

Barkeep49
06-27-2012, 05:52 PM
Vote Count

Votes Needed to lynch: 4

brit 4 - Danny (3474) JAG (3478) Abe (3490) DV (3514)
DV 2 - brit (3503) Chubby (3519)

Abe Sargent
06-27-2012, 06:11 PM
all quies tonteh spawn front

britrock88
06-27-2012, 06:53 PM
DV and I had our dance, I guess.

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 06:59 PM
now let's wait and see

Barkeep49
06-27-2012, 07:18 PM
The Water Plant is clearly the place to be during the day Crimson Fox deciding to also effect repairs.

LoneStarGirl
06-27-2012, 08:06 PM
vote DV

just to make it interesting.

It is GE's birthday, so we are out and about.

GoldenEagle
06-27-2012, 08:11 PM
Vote brittrock

I think this is the safer of the two options today.

britrock88
06-27-2012, 08:11 PM
Aww... I was hoping to win over both of the power couple.

britrock88
06-27-2012, 08:13 PM
Points to consider:

- DV attacked me last night.
- I haven't screwed up any work orders, and helped the crew get cool stuff -- a spawn detector and engineering tools.
- I think I've been helpful in navigating the rules, providing vote counts, etc.
- Although my voting record is bad, DV's is basically incomplete.

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 08:19 PM
you also forgot that I'm awesome

britrock88
06-27-2012, 08:58 PM
Duly noted. :)

CrimsonFox
06-27-2012, 08:59 PM
vote britrock

Barkeep49
06-27-2012, 09:12 PM
If yesterday went on forever, today was strangely silent. At the end of the day there is a clear sense that britrock has been disloyal. A brief violent act later you discover that he was, in fact, a SPAWN

Ship
Warehouse 1 Inaccessible
Warehouse 2 Inaccessible
Warehouse 3 Inaccessible

Officers’ Offices Damaged but Operational; 1 cycle to repair
Crew Quarters Damaged; 3 sleeping berths; 17 cycles to repair

Power Facility Fully Operational

Water Plant Fully Operational

Scientists’ Lab Damaged; 1 cycle to repair
Spawn Detector Offline
2 Engineer equivalent tools present


The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG Dehyrdrated
First Officer - Lonestargirl Dehyrdrated Exhausted
Second Officer - Danny Dehyrdrated Exhausted

Engineer
Crimson Exhausted Dehyrdrated
Darth Vilus Exhausted Dehyrdrated


Security Staff
Slavemaster - Chubby Dehyrdrated

Scientists
GoldenEaglep Dehyrdrated Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent Dehyrdrated Exhausted

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR
Danny- Lynched Day 3 SURVIVOR
Autumn Killed Night 3 SURVIVOR
dubb Killed Night 3 SPAWN
Simbo Klice Lynched Day 4 SCRYING SPAWN
Zinto Lynched Day 5 SPAWN QUEEN
saldana Killed Night 5 SURVIVOR
Chief Rum Killed Night 5 SURVIVOR
Shiggles Lynched Day 6 SURVIVOR
Julio Riddols Killed Night 6 SURVIVOR
hoopsguy Killed Night 6 SURVIVOR
britrock Lynched Day 7 SPAWN


Night 7 has begun

Chubby
06-27-2012, 09:15 PM
aren't I an engineer now?

Chubby
06-27-2012, 09:16 PM
yay we got a spawn, i still think DV is the last one

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 09:16 PM
Suck my junk Spawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 09:17 PM
I'm gonna beat your ass when this game is over Chubby :)

CrimsonFox
06-27-2012, 09:17 PM
Wait. DV is playing?

Abe Sargent
06-27-2012, 09:18 PM
Yay

JAG
06-27-2012, 09:18 PM
That's some poor evolving work there Britrock.

Barkeep49
06-27-2012, 09:19 PM
aren't I an engineer now?
You'll be a scientist tomorrow morning.

CrimsonFox
06-27-2012, 09:20 PM
I submitted order to fix the scientist lab.

CrimsonFox
06-27-2012, 09:20 PM
for night action.

Abe Sargent
06-27-2012, 09:20 PM
I'm glad we found our guy, that double kill a night was nasty.

Chubby
06-27-2012, 09:20 PM
You'll be a scientist tomorrow morning.

oh i fully expect DV to kill me tonight

CrimsonFox
06-27-2012, 09:20 PM
I'm glad we found our guy, that double kill a night was nasty.


*shrug* double kill + ship damage. Makes me think this game is unwinnable. :(

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 09:23 PM
I said after the game ;)

Abe Sargent
06-27-2012, 09:23 PM
All I know is, if we had missed today, we could have been on teh lsat day tomorrow.

8 players left, 6v2 odds, double kill N7, 4v2 in day, and if a missing lynch puts you at 3-2, then dead at night, and even if made a lynch, still at 3v1 after night and then next day is final day if 3v1 misses, night kill and game over. So we would have had to hit two spawn in a row on the next two tries had we missed with a double kill.

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 09:29 PM
Do you think my attack on britrock got in the way of his nightkill? If it did then We have 2 spawn left, if not then we should only have 1.

I sincrerely hope there's only 1 left

Abe Sargent
06-27-2012, 09:31 PM
We had two yesterday pining our spawn-dar and BK said the ship lifting off was the first action last night, no spawn after lift off, so it seems like one left to me

JAG
06-27-2012, 09:35 PM
There should not be more than one left. There were two according to our scanner when we lifted off, no new spawn are planted after lift off, and we just killed one.

Unevloved Spawn
Has no powers but has a chance to mutate into one of the Spawn below that increases over time.

So do we think britrock was an original that had really bad die rolls for a number of nights or was he mutated?

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 09:39 PM
Oh yeah, i forgot about the scan

CrimsonFox
06-27-2012, 09:49 PM
Why did they have a double kill of Chief and Saldana 2 nights ago. And a double kill AND ship damage ability last night. Granted this is rhetorical as there is no way for us to asnswer that

Darth Vilus
06-27-2012, 09:57 PM
You pose an interesting question. I'm stumped

Abe Sargent
06-27-2012, 09:58 PM
Why did they have a double kill of Chief and Saldana 2 nights ago. And a double kill AND ship damage ability last night. Granted this is rhetorical as there is no way for us to asnswer that

I don't thinkteh ship damage was spawn at all

CrimsonFox
06-27-2012, 10:07 PM
I don't thinkteh ship damage was spawn at all


not even the ship damage we took on the planet? You've played spawn before. Have any insights?

britrock88
06-27-2012, 10:21 PM
I'll have at least as much fun observing the rest of this one as I had playing. Good luck, everybody!

Abe Sargent
06-28-2012, 12:01 AM
not even the ship damage we took on the planet? You've played spawn before. Have any insights?

I was replaying specifically to last night in your post, it couldn't have been spawn

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 12:11 AM
I was replaying specifically to last night in your post, it couldn't have been spawn

there's no such thing as "couldn't have" as we don't know all the spawn rules and roles not listed.

And yeah I understand that you don't think it was spawn that damaged the ship last night. So if not spawn, what do you think it was?

And my other question is do you think the main damage down to all the buildings while we were on the planet was also not the sapwn that did it?

Abe Sargent
06-28-2012, 12:33 AM
there's no such thing as "couldn't have" as we don't know all the spawn rules and roles not listed.

And yeah I understand that you don't think it was spawn that damaged the ship last night. So if not spawn, what do you think it was?

And my other question is do you think the main damage down to all the buildings while we were on the planet was also not the sapwn that did it?

I think it was exactly what the GM told us it was.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 12:43 AM
”Lift off in
3

2

1”

And with that order from JAG the colony on Spawn Planet is no more. The survivors had been on the planet long enough that they had forgotten just how rough the atmosphere could be. In fact it seems rougher than you remember it. Sure enough when the ship launches into space there are numerous alarms going off. Lift-off has damaged the ship. With the exception of Julio, seen lurking around the Crews Quarters, and britrock in the Science Lab, the crew plans on getting a good night’s sleep, as least where they can find a bed, and addressing the problems in the morning.




Ah missed that.

Danny
06-28-2012, 01:29 AM
Good result, though it was pretty much a sure thing.

Danny
06-28-2012, 01:31 AM
I am surprised that he was unevolved spawn though. We were on Day 7, so its hard to believe he went all game without gaining any ability.

He certainly didn't seem like a likely convert, but since the spawn attack was made night 4, they may have submitted that before I did my analysis that night and before Brit had some suspicion thrown his way.

Danny
06-28-2012, 01:33 AM
As best I can tell, the only other possible starting spawn would be Abe and Darth (and me? Someone said I was scanned, but im not sure).

It's tough to know if we should start looking at them or look for who we think was the convert. I'm not really sure where to go for the last wolf at this point.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 02:11 AM
why not LSG?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 02:13 AM
Danny, it can't be Abe because Shiggles scanned him right before liftoff and he was clean.

Danny
06-28-2012, 02:20 AM
Oh maybe it can be LSG. It could be Abe if he was unaware spawn.

Danny
06-28-2012, 02:20 AM
I think Abe can't be the convert because I dont think he would have been unaware spawn at that point, but considering we dont have a known unaware spawn, I wouldnt be surprised if there was one.

Danny
06-28-2012, 02:22 AM
Ok, everyone needs to stop posting. Spawn IV is about to pass my game in number of posts.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 03:30 AM
Oh? What game is that?

JAG
06-28-2012, 04:52 AM
I am surprised that he was unevolved spawn though. We were on Day 7, so its hard to believe he went all game without gaining any ability.

He certainly didn't seem like a likely convert, but since the spawn attack was made night 4, they may have submitted that before I did my analysis that night and before Brit had some suspicion thrown his way.

There are only two explanations I could think of for Britrock to be the convert:

1. They wanted to pick a scientist because they had good cover for being exhausted at night and could more easily fake research than other tasks.

2. Maybe he wasn't the target of the spawnling attack and got converted when doing work D5 (this is more of a long shot for me because I can the spawn teamed up for their attack meaning they should have had great odds to win).

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 06:08 AM
Jag he also wasn't mentioned as a target. Maybe they were worried. Still, I still think there were better roles out there.

And really I was feeling minor wolfy vibes from him early on in the game especially with his defensive "make it to day 5 " post.

Barkeep49
06-28-2012, 08:05 AM
There is only a small amount of activity during the night. CF can be seen working in the Science Lab, while JAG is by the Water Plant doing nothing. Today’s body is easy to discover. It’s a good thing you have a new scientist since Golden Eagle is now no more. That’s one more SURVIVOR down.

Warehouse 1 Inaccessible
Warehouse 2 Inaccessible
Warehouse 3 Inaccessible

Officers’ Offices Damaged but Operational; 1 cycle to repair
Crew Quarters Damaged; 3 sleeping berths; 17 cycles to repair

Power Facility Fully Operational

Water Plant Fully Operational

Scientists’ Lab Fully Operational
1 Spawn Detected
2 Engineer equivalent tools present


The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG Exhausted
First Officer - Lonestargirl
Second Officer - Danny

Engineer
Crimson Exhausted
Darth Vilus


Scientists
Chubby Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent Exhausted

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR
Danny- Lynched Day 3 SURVIVOR
Autumn Killed Night 3 SURVIVOR
dubb Killed Night 3 SPAWN
Simbo Klice Lynched Day 4 SCRYING SPAWN
Zinto Lynched Day 5 SPAWN QUEEN
saldana Killed Night 5 SURVIVOR
Chief Rum Killed Night 5 SURVIVOR
Shiggles Lynched Day 6 SURVIVOR
Julio Riddols Killed Night 6 SURVIVOR
hoopsguy Killed Night 6 SURVIVOR
britrock Lynched Day 7 SPAWN
Golden EagleKilled Night 6 SURVIVOR

Day 8 has begun

Chubby
06-28-2012, 08:24 AM
There is only a small amount of activity during the night. CF can be seen working in the Science Lab, while JAG is by the Water Plant doing nothing. Today’s body is easy to discover. It’s a good thing you have a new scientist since Golden Eagle is now no more. That’s one more SURVIVOR down.

Warehouse 1 Inaccessible
Warehouse 2 Inaccessible
Warehouse 3 Inaccessible

Officers’ Offices Damaged but Operational; 1 cycle to repair
Crew Quarters Damaged; 3 sleeping berths; 17 cycles to repair

Power Facility Fully Operational

Water Plant Fully Operational

Scientists’ Lab Fully Operational
1 Spawn Detected
2 Engineer equivalent tools present


The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG Exhausted
First Officer - Lonestargirl
Second Officer - Danny

Engineer
Crimson Exhausted
Darth Vilus


Scientists
Chubby Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent Exhausted

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR
Danny- Lynched Day 3 SURVIVOR
Autumn Killed Night 3 SURVIVOR
dubb Killed Night 3 SPAWN
Simbo Klice Lynched Day 4 SCRYING SPAWN
Zinto Lynched Day 5 SPAWN QUEEN
saldana Killed Night 5 SURVIVOR
Chief Rum Killed Night 5 SURVIVOR
Shiggles Lynched Day 6 SURVIVOR
Julio Riddols Killed Night 6 SURVIVOR
hoopsguy Killed Night 6 SURVIVOR
britrock Lynched Day 7 SPAWN
Golden EagleKilled Night 6 SURVIVOR

Day 8 has begun
Ugh not a surprise to lose my absolute trust partner :(

JAG
06-28-2012, 08:33 AM
Seems like this should be a pretty straightforward win now. Lynch someone, set the scanner to scan two unknowns in case we're wrong.

Barkeep49
06-28-2012, 08:38 AM
Chubby changes some settings on the Spawn Detector and sets it pointing at CrimsonFox and JAG. The machine gives no negative indication.

JAG
06-28-2012, 08:40 AM
Chubby is obviously clear, Danny and I have good votes on Britrock the past two days. If LSG was Spawn, I would've thought they'd have killed me by now.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 08:43 AM
Jag - I put the order in right after I got bk's pm. No need to wait, we have 1 spawn left and that won't change. I stayed up last night to try and fight off an attack if one came. It didn't. Does abe scan still hold? If so, that clears all the exhusted people

JAG
06-28-2012, 08:43 AM
Chubby, poor move to do that without discussion.

However, no negative indication...does that mean one of us is Spawn?

JAG
06-28-2012, 08:44 AM
Regular Spawn attacks don't make people exhausted, so that wasn't a good measure to figure out who was Spawn.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 08:45 AM
Id assume it'd go off if you were spawn. I had to scan u el capitan. Biggest fear was u converted

JAG
06-28-2012, 08:46 AM
It'd be fairly hilarious if CF fixed it only to implicate him.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 08:47 AM
This confirms shiggles assertion that.a spawn was allowed to claim a bed and still perform spawn attack

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:49 AM
WTF Chubby? Why did you scan me?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:50 AM
Chubby changes some settings on the Spawn Detector and sets it pointing at CrimsonFox and JAG. The machine gives no negative indication.

Does that mean it gave lots of positive indications of spawn? :)

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:51 AM
This confirms shiggles assertion that.a spawn was allowed to claim a bed and still perform spawn attack

what does? There are 3 beds and only 3 people not tired.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:51 AM
Chubby why didn't you scan DV?

Chubby
06-28-2012, 08:52 AM
what does? There are 3 beds and only 3 people not tired.

One of them is spawn. I asked to stay up last night and was told there weren't enough beds for me anyways

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:52 AM
Question for Abe. Why did you train a scientist?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:52 AM
One of them is spawn. I asked to stay up last night and was told there weren't enough beds for me anyways

yeah because 3 people took them.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:52 AM
Oh.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:53 AM
Hey Packerfanatic is back! is he playing Danny's second head?

Chubby
06-28-2012, 08:54 AM
Chubby why didn't you scan DV?

I wanted to scan jag as stated before, you were last exhusted not cleared. DV is todays vote regardless, I wanted additional clears in case we were wrong. As jag said, if lsg were spawn they'd have offed jag by now as well

vote dv

Chubby
06-28-2012, 08:55 AM
Question for Abe. Why did you train a scientist?

I asked jag but ill ask uj too before I head back from bank. Shigglles scan of abe should still hold no?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:55 AM
This confirms shiggles assertion that.a spawn was allowed to claim a bed and still perform spawn attack

I don't think this is the same thing though. In this case there are 3 people not exhausted and 3 beds. In that case There were 8 people not exhausted and 9 beds.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:56 AM
I asked jag but ill ask uj too before I head back from bank. Shigglles scan of abe should still hold no?

of course it should. Jag ordered him to scan abe. Shiggles revealed that abe was clean before he died. That night there were 2 deaths so they couldn't have made a new spawn. Correct?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:57 AM
We lifted off that night or the next night?

Chubby
06-28-2012, 08:58 AM
I don't think this is the same thing though. In this case there are 3 people not exhausted and 3 beds. In that case There were 8 people not exhausted and 9 beds.

As far as I can see, last spawn has to be in those 3 and I was told a bed was not available meaning a spawn claimed it (hence no access for me) and still attacked.

I asked to stay up anyways so I didn't care about no bed

Chubby
06-28-2012, 08:58 AM
of course it should. Jag ordered him to scan abe. Shiggles revealed that abe was clean before he died. That night there were 2 deaths so they couldn't have made a new spawn. Correct?

That's my understanding too

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 08:59 AM
As far as I can see, last spawn has to be in those 3 and I was told a bed was not available meaning a spawn claimed it (hence no access for me) and still attacked.

I asked to stay up anyways so I didn't care about no bed

oh i see. aha and in that instance , say brit, brit claimed the bed but got exhaiusted from the attack and didn't actually do science work. He was covered by the fact that GE was doing work too.

JAG
06-28-2012, 09:00 AM
I thought the spawn scanner required a full cycle to get results. Although it was a Spawn that told us that, you'd have thought GE would've corrected that information if it was wrong.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:01 AM
I wanted to scan jag as stated before, you were last exhusted not cleared. DV is todays vote regardless, I wanted additional clears in case we were wrong. As jag said, if lsg were spawn they'd have offed jag by now as well

vote dv

oh because she's second in command.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:01 AM
that is if she thought of that and if she's paying attention to that.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:01 AM
what the heck...

vote LoneStarGirl

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:03 AM
Actually when Lonestar and I were wolves she definitely wanted to go after Jag early on. And when there were lots of rules she didn't read them all or got confused about how things worked (no offense)

So actually she might have chosen jag anyway for different reasons.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:04 AM
BUt anyway, in thread this game, she has acted exactly like in thread Autumn's game.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:05 AM
I haven't looked at her votes tho. Will leave that to Danny and Jag. As for DV...well, he's just a bastard. :D

He could at LEAST have fixed more beds :P

Chubby
06-28-2012, 09:05 AM
If lsg were turned, the intention would hbave been to get her to be captain (by the original spawn) and a jag death surely would have followed. If she was originalthe other spawn would have offed jag a long time ago imo.

I'm fine with whatever you want to generate disscussion, I won't be able to discuss or change vote when I'm back at work so I'm staying on dv

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:06 AM
And yes Abe I do feel like we watched a play.

The All-Spawn production of Gentlemen Prefer Blondes

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:07 AM
so you scanned me "just in case" because I was exhausted? okay. I still wish you would have scanned DV if the vote was going DV. That way we would know.

Unless we're dealing with the dumb unaware thing. Man I hate cunnings.

JAG
06-28-2012, 09:08 AM
One of them is spawn. I asked to stay up last night and was told there weren't enough beds for me anyways

Why does it mean they're spawn? With only 3 beds someone had to claim them and everyone else would be exhausted. If you look at the list, when there aren't enough beds, it looks like it's done in order of seniority top to bottom unless those people are doing work. That's why LSG and Danny got beds for example. The night Shiggles was exhausted without reason, he must not have been able to claim a bed because Zinto was "using" it (publicly, because he didn't take any other action that night), only being exhausted as a result of the spawnling attack.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 09:08 AM
1 question for dv I want answered: are we to believe there are 2 vigilantes in the game as you claim? (Autumn)

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:10 AM
Why does it mean they're spawn? With only 3 beds someone had to claim them and everyone else would be exhausted. If you look at the list, when there aren't enough beds, it looks like it's done in order of seniority top to bottom unless those people are doing work. That's why LSG and Danny got beds for example. The night Shiggles was exhausted without reason, he must not have been able to claim a bed because Zinto was "using" it (publicly, because he didn't take any other action that night), only being exhausted as a result of the spawnling attack.


hmmm assumed it was random.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 09:10 AM
Why does it mean they're spawn? With only 3 beds someone had to claim them and everyone else would be exhausted. If you look at the list, when there aren't enough beds, it looks like it's done in order of seniority top to bottom unless those people are doing work. That's why LSG and Danny got beds for example. The night Shiggles was exhausted without reason, he must not have been able to claim a bed because Zinto was "using" it (publicly, because he didn't take any other action that night), only being exhausted as a result of the spawnling attack.

All exhusteds are cleared imo

LoneStarGirl
06-28-2012, 09:11 AM
Chubby is obviously clear, Danny and I have good votes on Britrock the past two days. If LSG was Spawn, I would've thought they'd have killed me by now.

Exactly, then I would have been Captain and I would have ran this ship into the ground. So that should clear me.

Unless you are spawn JAG :)

Chubby
06-28-2012, 09:11 AM
so you scanned me "just in case" because I was exhausted? okay. I still wish you would have scanned DV if the vote was going DV. That way we would know.

Unless we're dealing with the dumb unaware thing. Man I hate cunnings.

In that case the tool is useless at this point

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:11 AM
1 question for dv I want answered: are we to believe there are 2 vigilantes in the game as you claim? (Autumn)


I really don't know about all his BS about "you guys better not kill me" and him suddenly playing yesterday when every other day he wasn't. Screams guilt or unhelpful villager, both of which end up lynched.

LoneStarGirl
06-28-2012, 09:14 AM
Just saw JAG got cleared by Chubby's spawn detector...

And CF, why would I kill my husband on his birthday?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:14 AM
really DV is worth lynching simply because he missed every night shift work duty except one, where what he did actually hurt us.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:15 AM
Just saw JAG got cleared by Chubby's spawn detector...

And CF, why would I kill my husband on his birthday?


a) because that's the rule
and
b) so you'd finally have someone to talk to about all the evil you do.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 09:15 AM
Also, my gut says if we turn the tool on 2 and 1 is spawn then it'll give off a spawn reading but not say who

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:16 AM
really the GE kill puzzled me so it must have had to do with GE being able to run the scanner.

Okay because of the multiple doctors and multiscanning machine, THAT'S why spawn get one kill each. got it. Could get messy, but for either side. Okay will finally admit that's kinda balanced.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:17 AM
Also, my gut says if we turn the tool on 2 and 1 is spawn then it'll give off a spawn reading but not say who

so did you try and pick 2 people who weren't clear but who you THOUGHT were clear? cool.

So how are YOU clear?

JAG
06-28-2012, 09:18 AM
All exhusteds are cleared imo

Explain your logic. If you felt that way, why did you set the scanner on CF and I, who were both exhausted?

The exhausted people aren't cleared to me, it just means they were doing something (CF and I), or didn't have a bed to claim because there were only 3. It doesn't make thence guilty, it really gives no indication as to wherever they are or aren't Spawn.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:22 AM
JAG, I'm a gonna fix more beds. You aren't planning on turning me into another scientist are you?

Chubby
06-28-2012, 09:23 AM
so did you try and pick 2 people who weren't clear but who you THOUGHT were clear? cool.

So how are YOU clear?

Exhusteds are all clear now (post scan).

I didn't think either of you were clear, my biggest fear was spawn captain. I then wanted to clear last of exhusteds (abe was already clear in my mind)

Absolute trust group with chief (who hinted at it when I was up for vote) and ge/schmidty (who I hinted at when ge was being discussed for a scan). I revealed and ge didn't dispute or say I was spawn.

JAG
06-28-2012, 09:24 AM
Chubby changes some settings on the Spawn Detector and sets it pointing at CrimsonFox and JAG. The machine gives no negative indication.

The point of the machine is to scan Spawn, if it's giving no negative indication then it means it is positively identifying one of us as Spawn, no?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:25 AM
Exhusteds are all clear now (post scan).

I didn't think either of you were clear, my biggest fear was spawn captain. I then wanted to clear last of exhusteds (abe was already clear in my mind)

Absolute trust group with chief (who hinted at it when I was up for vote) and ge/schmidty (who I hinted at when ge was being discussed for a scan). I revealed and ge didn't dispute or say I was spawn.


That doesn't mean you aren't mutated spawn though. Just that you aren't original.

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:25 AM
Alright some thoughts.

Chubby is cleared

Then we now have Jag, Crimson and Abe scanned. So it appears that unless they are unaware spawn, they are cleared.

That leaves DV, LSG and I as uncleared. I think we lynch one of us three and the scan the other two tomorrow. That means we either catch the wolf or know we are working on a bad assumption and there is a spawn aware out there.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:25 AM
The point of the machine is to scan Spawn, if it's giving no negative indication then it means it is positively identifying one of us as Spawn, no?


I made that joke/observation earlier and got nothing. Not even laughs.

JAG
06-28-2012, 09:26 AM
If I were Spawn, LSG and Danny would already be dead. I also think they would've killed other officers if one of them were Spawn.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 09:26 AM
Explain your logic. If you felt that way, why did you set the scanner on CF and I, who were both exhausted?

The exhausted people aren't cleared to me, it just means they were doing something (CF and I), or didn't have a bed to claim because there were only 3. It doesn't make thence guilty, it really gives no indication as to wherever they are or aren't Spawn.

Cleared NOW. Trying to type fast on phone.

They aren't cleared because they are exhusted, you and cf by scan today for example

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:26 AM
That doesn't mean you aren't mutated spawn though. Just that you aren't original.

Huh, you're right. This is a little confusing. Does anyone have more info on how it might work?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:28 AM
Chubby can you tell us what your personal message said about the scantron thing?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:29 AM
Actually I don't think it means anything but that JAG and I are cleared. I'm not spawn. And never really thought Jag was the last 2 days.

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:29 AM
The point of the machine is to scan Spawn, if it's giving no negative indication then it means it is positively identifying one of us as Spawn, no?

I meant to quote this post

Huh, you're right. This is a little confusing. Does anyone have more info on how it might work?

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:30 AM
I think we should be training another scientist today in the event that spawn kill Chubby

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:31 AM
I think BK was meaning it as :Nothing bad. Which isn't the best way to put it since it is a "test" which is usually , you know HIVspawn-positive.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:33 AM
or HIVE-positive. BAHAHAHAHA!

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:34 AM
If I were Spawn, LSG and Danny would already be dead. I also think they would've killed other officers if one of them were Spawn.

I don't think you are a spawn, but I don't really buy this.

The last three nights the kills were Saldana and CHief (both doctors) and then hoops and Julio (both cleared) and now GE (cleared). The spawn is ibviously going for cleared players, not necessarily the higher ups.

Also, if LSG kiled you it would have put a big bullseye on your back. Or in my case if I was spawn and killed both you two, again, big bullseye.

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:35 AM
Or if you were spawn and killed LSG and I, big bullseye, not to mention limited players left a few of which were cleared.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:35 AM
well that leaves me and Danny to make a scientist right? Abe should probably stay trainer and JAG Captain.

Definitely don't train DV. If you want LSG you might have to order her around. THen again if she didn't scan we'd vote her out.

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:36 AM
Again, I think we stick with this plan.

Today, we lynch from the unscanned group. Darth, Lonestargirl and myself.

Then tomorrow we scan the two who were not lynched. We train another scientist just in case as well.

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:36 AM
I dont think there is too much risk of the spawn not doing as told. Whoever is left has to go the distance, so faking now would still make them lose.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:37 AM
I don't think you are a spawn, but I don't really buy this.

The last three nights the kills were Saldana and CHief (both doctors) and then hoops and Julio (both cleared) and now GE (cleared). The spawn is ibviously going for cleared players, not necessarily the higher ups.

Also, if LSG kiled you it would have put a big bullseye on your back. Or in my case if I was spawn and killed both you two, again, big bullseye.


I don't either Danny. I don't think it would matter if a Captain spawn killed his underlings. Wouldn't matter. Sometimes it's about getting rid of useful people. Sometimes about going after Utrs to let the active people suspect each other.Sometimes it's getting rid of potential threats.

JAG
06-28-2012, 09:38 AM
Here's the gist of the PM GE and I got from Barkeep about the high-level research being completed (and sorry this is my first chance to report on this):

Setting 1 (in use) - detects the number of spawn in the game.
Setting 2 - monitors 2 players to detect whether they are spawn; must be set on a player for a full cycle. Each scientist can change the players once per day (for free) as a day action.

GE and I can agree to change it to Setting 2, or you (JAG) can order us to do so. Not sure whether there are action points involved in that.

Now, that's all of the PM I got from Barkeep. If GE found out that the chances of success have increased, I wasn't included in that message. But I think he might simply mean that we have a better chance based on our suspicions of people.

Here's Britrock explaining how the scanner works. He says GE was also sent this info, so we should be able to trust it. Maybe the 'must be set on a player for a full cycle' just means we can't move it to someone else now that it's set on CF and I but we get instant results?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:39 AM
Again, I think we stick with this plan.

Today, we lynch from the unscanned group. Darth, Lonestargirl and myself.

Then tomorrow we scan the two who were not lynched. We train another scientist just in case as well.


well Darth and LSG were the only two worth considering really. It is a nobrainer.

They are3 in that group of 5 that are the starting spawn remember?

The group of brit Darth LSG Abe and um...one I can't remember.

So if Brit ISN'T a starting Spawn, then it HAS to be Darth or LSG.
Brit MIGHT be a starting spawn, in which case all bets are off and we STILL have those two as uncleared and deserving of lynching.

Barkeep49
06-28-2012, 09:40 AM
The point of the machine is to scan Spawn, if it's giving no negative indication then it means it is positively identifying one of us as Spawn, no?
No. Sorry for not being clear but there is no Spawn Detected by the machine right now.

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:41 AM
I know things looks bad for Darth, but I personally am very suspicious of LSG. She is playing exactly like she did the last game she was a wolf and not the more involved active LSG like she did as a villager. I also do not believe at all that she would have killed Jag as that pretty much would have guaranteed her at the very least a scan.

So for now

vote lonestargirl

JAG
06-28-2012, 09:41 AM
I think we should be training another scientist today in the event that spawn kill Chubby

We can't. There are no more personnel to turn into scientists, we have to turn an engineer to a security person, then we can turn then into a scientist.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:41 AM
No. Sorry for not being clear but there is no Spawn Detected by the machine right now.


See? I told ya I told ya I told ya.... (Suddenly has flashbacks to the moped from Wheelie and the Chopper Bunch)

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:41 AM
We can't. There are no more personnel to turn into scientists, we have to turn an engineer to a security person, then we can turn then into a scientist.

Huh? Well I haven't read any of those rules so I guess I'll assume that's right.

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:44 AM
So is there no way to change scanner for tomorrow?

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:44 AM
If chubby is killed?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:47 AM
Here's Britrock explaining how the scanner works. He says GE was also sent this info, so we should be able to trust it. Maybe the 'must be set on a player for a full cycle' just means we can't move it to someone else now that it's set on CF and I but we get instant results?


Well since we got instant results it just means to me that it can only be used once a day...which means he just said that twice in a row is all. :)

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:48 AM
I know I was a little off last game, but I just don't think Darth is a spawn still. This isn't meant to sound offensive, but I don't see Brit and Darth pulling off their fake vigilante thing with Darth seemingly unengaged.

JAG
06-28-2012, 09:49 AM
So is there no way to change scanner for tomorrow?

I believe that's true, yes.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:50 AM
What if I or LSG or Danny were made security tomorrow and scientist the day after that? Would at least be a JUST IN CASE in case we made it to the bottom 3.

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:51 AM
That's fine with me, but I really dont if that works or not as I've done a poor job with ship based rules this game.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:51 AM
I know I was a little off last game, but I just don't think Darth is a spawn still. This isn't meant to sound offensive, but I don't see Brit and Darth pulling off their fake vigilante thing with Darth seemingly unengaged.


Well on that note I do think it's kind of funny that you keep saying that your gut tells you DV is a villager when he averages a post a day. :)
That must be a hell of a tell he gives.

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:53 AM
I've played poker with him ;)

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:54 AM
um...who is slayer, incorruptible, gut feeling and avenger?

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:55 AM
I don't know my role.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:56 AM
Incidently LSG voted didn't vote for britrock yesterday "just to keep it interesting".

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 09:56 AM
I don't know my role.

liar.

Danny
06-28-2012, 09:57 AM
Ok lol

JAG
06-28-2012, 09:58 AM
Alright, I see where you guys are coming from on LSG. You can also argue she 'made it interesting' with her vote on DV that doesn't look good if DV is clear.

Vote LSG

JAG
06-28-2012, 09:59 AM
Incidently LSG voted didn't vote for britrock yesterday "just to keep it interesting".

You had to do that while I was typing my post, eh?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:00 AM
You are probably Avenger or Gut Feeling then Danny2. Both activate when votes are cast against you but none have been.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:01 AM
Ok lol

and STOP going lol! You KNOW how that urks me so!

Danny
06-28-2012, 10:01 AM
lol

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:01 AM
Danny2, do you know Danny1's role?

Danny
06-28-2012, 10:01 AM
oops

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:02 AM
And saldana's for that matter?

Danny
06-28-2012, 10:02 AM
No

Danny
06-28-2012, 10:03 AM
No to Dann1, no clue about Saldana. I dont think he ever posted it.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:03 AM
so really what was all that stuff between DV and Chubby? and that business of "I'll tell you after the game why you shouldn't vote for me."

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:06 AM
12 secret roles and only 3 starting spawn with 2 converts.

3 people had the trust relationship.

So that's 14 roles.

So if everyone had one there definitely has to be duplicates (or duplicants ;)

Danny
06-28-2012, 10:07 AM
I remember there being duplicants in the last game too.

Danny
06-28-2012, 10:08 AM
So why cant I make myself an engineer and then be trained as a scientist?

JAG
06-28-2012, 10:09 AM
Sal was miracle worker. Mauboy and Danny1 were killed without revealing or knowing their role I believe.

JAG
06-28-2012, 10:10 AM
So why cant I make myself an engineer and then be trained as a scientist?

He can't train officers, just specialists and enlisted crew.

Danny
06-28-2012, 10:12 AM
k

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:13 AM
I think this is where we are:

Danny1 ??
2. Autumn Vigilante
3. JAG Duplicant
4. hoopsguy
5. Chief Rum Absolute Trust
6. Zinto Starting Spawn
GoldenEagle Absolute Trust
8. Simbo Klice Starting Spawn
9. britrock Spawn - unknown
10. Lonestargirl ??
Danny2 ??
12. Chubby Absolute Trust
13. CrimsonFox Empathic
14. Shiggles Spawn Aware
15. saldana Miracle Worker
16. Julio Psychic
17. Darth Vilius CLAIMED Vigilante
18. mauboy ??
19. Abe Sargent ??
20. dubb93 Spawn Convert - unknown

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:15 AM
out of:
Avenger
Absolute Trust
Duplicant
Empathic
Gut Feeling
Incorruptible
Light Sleeper
Miracle Worker
Psychic
Slayer
Spawn Aware
Vigilante

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:17 AM
No one's claimed slayer. :P which I'm sure was a starting one that you'd know if you were one. ALthough you guys DID say that you had to actually trigger your secret roles before you can use them right? Is that the truth with all roles? I didn't find out my role til second day.

Danny
06-28-2012, 10:22 AM
Jag, you did duplicant already?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:22 AM
yes he did. And he didn't duplicant doctor. :P He did something else.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:24 AM
Incidently don't look to be for advice on who we should lynch. YOu guys decide that yourselves.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:24 AM
*me

JAG
06-28-2012, 10:31 AM
Incidently don't look to be for advice on who we should lynch. YOu guys decide that yourselves.

Well, I thought Danny and Abe were working together as Spawn, so yeah...

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:32 AM
1. Danny1 ??
2. Autumn Vigilante
3. JAG Duplicant
4. hoopsguy ??
5. Chief Rum Absolute Trust
6. Zinto Starting Spawn
7. GoldenEagle Absolute Trust
8. Simbo Klice Starting Spawn
9. britrock Spawn - unknown
10. Lonestargirl ??
11. Danny2 ?? Does not know
12. Chubby Absolute Trust
13. CrimsonFox Empathic
14. Shiggles Spawn Aware
15. saldana Miracle Worker
16. Julio Psychic
17. Darth Vilius CLAIMED Vigilante
18. mauboy ??
19. Abe Sargent ??
20. dubb93 Spawn Convert - unknown

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:33 AM
Blue = people scanned as not spawn
Green = dead villager
Red = dead spawn
black = unscanned live thingee

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:34 AM
2 engineer spawn....ugh...there's a thought.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 10:53 AM
Only rule I"ve seen JAG is that the trainer can train an enlisted to be a specialist and untrain a specialist to be an enlisted. Is that what you meant? I think you said security.

anyway abe is here. Abe, can you tell us if you can train any of us into scientists or not?

and do you know if you have a role?

Abe Sargent
06-28-2012, 10:54 AM
Question for Abe. Why did you train a scientist?

Because britrock was dyinng in the lynch, and it looked like we needed another, and JAG asked me too as well, and since we both were on the same page with that, I went with it.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 10:58 AM
If the captain is spawn with no 1st mate, does that mean game over with no mutiny option?

Abe Sargent
06-28-2012, 11:01 AM
I know things looks bad for Darth, but I personally am very suspicious of LSG. She is playing exactly like she did the last game she was a wolf and not the more involved active LSG like she did as a villager. I also do not believe at all that she would have killed Jag as that pretty much would have guaranteed her at the very least a scan.

So for now

vote lonestargirl

Meh, seems a little meta-gamey to me

Abe Sargent
06-28-2012, 11:07 AM
Only rule I"ve seen JAG is that the trainer can train an enlisted to be a specialist and untrain a specialist to be an enlisted. Is that what you meant? I think you said security.

anyway abe is here. Abe, can you tell us if you can train any of us into scientists or not?

and do you know if you have a role?

No, because of what you just said. We don't have any enlisted people, just specialists and officers, so I woul dhave to move someone such as an engineer to enlisted, such as specialist or medic, and then back over to scientist two days later.

Abe Sargent
06-28-2012, 11:07 AM
Only rule I"ve seen JAG is that the trainer can train an enlisted to be a specialist and untrain a specialist to be an enlisted. Is that what you meant? I think you said security.

anyway abe is here. Abe, can you tell us if you can train any of us into scientists or not?

and do you know if you have a role?

I would prefer not to talk about any role I may or may not have at this point

JAG
06-28-2012, 11:10 AM
If the captain is spawn with no 1st mate, does that mean game over with no mutiny option?

If no doctors are around, yes. I specifically asked BK in a PM and he told me that's how the game ended for Spawn II, a Spawn captain with no way to lynch them. That's why I made the statement about having expected to have been targeted if a Spawn was amongst the officers (after all the doctors were killed especially, since there would be no way to blow them up), but it's possible they weren't aware of this. I wasn't aware until I asked BK the night hoops and Julio were killed. The only reason I bring it up is because the cat is out of the bag with your question and I want people aware of it. I feel decently about Danny since he voted Britrock the past couple days, LSG would be the only officer I don't have a good feel for that's left.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 12:47 PM
I brought it up because I was thinking that may be why danny was going after lsg today... I'm between darth and danny, I don't think lsg is spawn as either she or her other spawn would have taken you out. If danny is spawn, he'd know the play is to lynch 1 (not going to be you with a scan) and nk the other that night

unvote darth
vote danny

Darth Vilus
06-28-2012, 12:49 PM
For the record I really don't like how Chubby scanned without discussing it. And I'm really puzzled why he didn't scan me, my name has been coming up these last two days

Darth Vilus
06-28-2012, 12:51 PM
Execute Danny

I think there's a better chance of him being a spawn than LSG

JAG
06-28-2012, 12:57 PM
Execute Danny

I think there's a better chance of him being a spawn than LSG

Can you explain?

Darth Vilus
06-28-2012, 01:00 PM
No, It's just what I think. He took over this role halfway through the game so it would be harder to catch a spawn that way. Numerous people have already said they thought LSG was playing like a villager compared to how she played in the past

Danny
06-28-2012, 01:00 PM
If no doctors are around, yes. I specifically asked BK in a PM and he told me that's how the game ended for Spawn II, a Spawn captain with no way to lynch them. That's why I made the statement about having expected to have been targeted if a Spawn was amongst the officers (after all the doctors were killed especially, since there would be no way to blow them up), but it's possible they weren't aware of this. I wasn't aware until I asked BK the night hoops and Julio were killed. The only reason I bring it up is because the cat is out of the bag with your question and I want people aware of it. I feel decently about Danny since he voted Britrock the past couple days, LSG would be the only officer I don't have a good feel for that's left.

The funny thing is, whether I am or not a spawn, I had no idea about this until Jag posted it just now lol.

Danny
06-28-2012, 01:01 PM
No, It's just what I think. He took over this role halfway through the game so it would be harder to catch a spawn that way. Numerous people have already said they thought LSG was playing like a villager compared to how she played in the past

Obviously if you're voting me, you probably won't believe me, but LSG is playing like she did as a wolf last game, not as she did as a villager two games ago. At least to me anyway.

JAG
06-28-2012, 01:04 PM
I do have to think it's either Danny, LSG, or DV as last Spawn. If there was an unaware Spawn, they probably wouldn't have wanted to off the doctors before that spawn got scanned.

Darth Vilus
06-28-2012, 01:04 PM
Then why havent you voted her before?

Danny
06-28-2012, 01:05 PM
I don't think lsg is spawn as either she or her other spawn would have taken you out. If danny is spawn, he'd know the play is to lynch 1 (not going to be you with a scan) and nk the other that night

unvote darth
vote danny

I just don't buy this. If LSG is a spawn and killed Jag, we would be forced to lynch her just to protect ourselves. That would be a bad play.

You are correct on the second part, though as I said, I actually didn't even know that and I volunteered earlier today to be made a scientist or engineer.

JAG
06-28-2012, 01:06 PM
Obviously if you're voting me, you probably won't believe me, but LSG is playing like she did as a wolf last game, not as she did as a villager two games ago. At least to me anyway.

I agree with this. Plus she is the only one of you two not to vote Britrock yesterday which is a mark against her.

Danny
06-28-2012, 01:06 PM
Then why havent you voted her before?

I've been too busy you know, voting other spawn. I am not 100% convinced on LSG, but she seemed like the most likely spawn today.

Danny
06-28-2012, 01:08 PM
He took over this role halfway through the game so it would be harder to catch a spawn that way. t

I don't see how you could honestly buy me as a starting spawn. Packer voted Simbo day 2. Then after I took over day 4 I voted Simbo and then I created the argument for Zinto and got him lynched.

JAG
06-28-2012, 01:41 PM
Really, the only good vote LSG had was D4, and it was a decent vote, but Danny and DV voted Simbo that day also.

Abe Sargent
06-28-2012, 01:46 PM
I'm not voting for Danny today. I remain unconvinced of the other two and I see good arguments for each, but Danny, nah.

Abe Sargent
06-28-2012, 01:50 PM
There are two reasons why i see Danny as a convert:

1). PF was cleared early in the game by a doc. Nice conversion target.

2). Here is the list of spawn: dubb who was a convert, Zinto, Simbo, britrock - some or all of whom may have been starters. Now if that's your roster, and after dubb is found, don;t you want a convert with really good WW experience and play? dubb was a good choice for that reason, but he was found early. Wouldn't you want a hoops or Danny or Chief Rum for your team? Then add to the fact that Danny is playing PF who was scanned and cleared, and you have an interesting case to be made for conversion later.


But I don''t buy those enough for voting today.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 02:03 PM
I've been too busy you know, voting other spawn. I am not 100% convinced on LSG, but she seemed like the most likely spawn today.

Based on what? If you are going off of actions then dv is way more likely than lsg

Danny
06-28-2012, 02:06 PM
I've been saying all game I didn't think darth was a wolf. Lsg has the worst voting record and she is pinging me as playing the same ad last game by nt being around much and seeming out of it. She was a wolf then

Danny
06-28-2012, 02:08 PM
And you know what maybe it's a little guilt about last game when I voted darth and we lost because of it.

Abe Sargent
06-28-2012, 02:24 PM
Vote DV

Danny has totally failed to convince me of LSG's spawn-ness right now.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 02:33 PM
Vote count?

JAG
06-28-2012, 02:34 PM
Abe, look at the D2 voting. LSG votes Simbo up to 6 and Zinto (known baddie) piles on with 7 a bit later. But later she moves off Simbo onto the eventual lynch mauboy. DV? He had no vote the whole day.

Barkeep49
06-28-2012, 02:40 PM
Vote Count:

Votes Needed to lynch: 2

LSG 3 - CF (3605) Danny (3650) JAG (3668)
Danny 2 - Chubby (3703) DV (3705)
DV 1 - Abe (3722)

JAG
06-28-2012, 02:44 PM
I wont be around today but i did put my action in

Going to supervise on warhouse 3

Good luck all!

The colony buzzes with some activity. DV and six slaves head over to convert Warehouse 3. Meanwhile, Autumn gathers his away team composed of himself Shiggles, Mauboy1, Britrock88 and a slave for a mining mission.

All of this is done under the now watchful eye of Chief Rum in the Security HQ.

DV had time to put in an action but not a vote when a Spawn was leading the vote tied with 2 with 2 others.

You can argue he could have been the mutation choice, but his behavior yesterday made him stand out like a sore thumb when he already had a good deal of suspicion on him.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 02:48 PM
if abe were the last scientist, would he be able to use the spawn detector?

JAG
06-28-2012, 02:53 PM
if abe were the last scientist, would he be able to use the spawn detector?

He can't be turned into a scientist. He would have to train himself into enlisted crew and then into a scientist...but if he's enlisted crew, he won't be a trainer anymore.

Chubby
06-28-2012, 03:01 PM
He's listed and colored under scientists with me so I thought id ask.

LoneStarGirl
06-28-2012, 03:45 PM
For self preservation

vote danny

And didn't I put one of the first votes on a spawn a few nights ago?

LoneStarGirl
06-28-2012, 03:46 PM
And y'all saying that I didn't play much last game when I was a wolf, I had stomach surgery during that game, and I knew CF could handle it enough for both of us.

This game shouldn't be compared to that game.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 03:53 PM
okay danny is totally the wrong play here mostly for percentage reasons.

really don't like how DV jumped that quickly to danny.
Granted i don't like chubby's reasoning there.

i'm very surprised aagain that DV is giving no explanations for yesterday.
then again maybe i should stop being surprised about anything DV foes or doesn't do.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 03:54 PM
so did you have stomach problems this game too? We're saying that the type of posting you have done all game is similar to the frequency and types of posts you made last game.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 03:56 PM
jag can you do your vote count magic of all the days again so we can see the new analysis?

DV is the only one i'd switch to.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 03:58 PM
DV had time to put in an action but not a vote when a Spawn was leading the vote tied with 2 with 2 others.

You can argue he could have been the mutation choice, but his behavior yesterday made him stand out like a sore thumb when he already had a good deal of suspicion on him.

i really don't know why anyone is being secretive anymore when reveals will only help us. It seems like abe and chubby are spawn too really.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 04:01 PM
There are two reasons why i see Danny as a convert:

1). PF was cleared early in the game by a doc. Nice conversion target.

2). Here is the list of spawn: dubb who was a convert, Zinto, Simbo, britrock - some or all of whom may have been starters. Now if that's your roster, and after dubb is found, don;t you want a convert with really good WW experience and play? dubb was a good choice for that reason, but he was found early. Wouldn't you want a hoops or Danny or Chief Rum for your team? Then add to the fact that Danny is playing PF who was scanned and cleared, and you have an interesting case to be made for conversion later.


But I don''t buy those enough for voting today.

1 is the only good reason.
for your 2 reason is the reason i wouldn't choose Danny as he is likely , VERY likely to be scanned or protected. And "he" was already lynched once so why would you want to choose him?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 04:04 PM
Based on what? If you are going off of actions then dv is way more likely than lsg

then why don't you vote for him?
And DV is actually just as likely really. Both have a chance of being spawn and both have acted in a way that suggests wolf.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 04:06 PM
No, because of what you just said. We don't have any enlisted people, just specialists and officers, so I woul dhave to move someone such as an engineer to enlisted, such as specialist or medic, and then back over to scientist two days later.

just checking. is it worth trying to convert someone to a scientist even though it would take 2 days?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 04:07 PM
so darth you going to tell us about your vigilante thing? tell us what happened with that again please.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 04:08 PM
unvote lsg
vote DV

Abe Sargent
06-28-2012, 04:12 PM
if abe were the last scientist, would he be able to use the spawn detector?

I'm not a scientist I'm a trainer, just like the medic is not a doctor, but a medic, and so forth

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 04:22 PM
Day 2 Voting:

759: Chief Rum votes mauboy (1)
761: PackerFanatic votes Simbo Klice (1)
764: britrock88 votes Schmidty (1)
784: Simbo votes mauboy (2)
790: Autumn votes Simbo (2)
852: LSG votes Schmidty (2)
886: CrimsonFox votes Simbo (3)
894: mauboy votes Schmidty (3)
902: Julio votes Schmidty (4)
903: Chubby votes Simbo (4)
918: Abe votes mauboy (3)
923: saldana votes mauboy (4)
959: Zinto votes mauboy (5)
976: Danny votes Simbo (5)
989: LSG unvotes Schmidty (3), votes Simbo (6)
999: Julio unvotes Schmidty (2)
1003: Zinto unvotes mauboy, votes Simbo (7)
1011: dubb votes LSG (1)
1016: britrock88 unvotes Schmidty (1)
1027: Autumn unvotes Simbo (6), votes mauboy (5)
1034: JAG votes mauboy (6)
1046: Chubby unvotes Simbo (5), votes mauboy (7)
1050: LSG unvotes Simbo (4), votes mauboy (8)

mauboy 8 - chief (759) simbo (784) abe (918) saldana 923 autumn 1027 jag 1034 chubby (1046) Lonestar 1050
simbo 4 - packerfan (761) CrimsonFox (886) Danny 976 Zinto 1003
schmidty 1 - mauboy (894)
LSG 1 - dubb (1011)

Day 3 voting:

1249: CrimsonFox votes Schmidty (1)
1337: Autumn votes CrimsonFox (1)
1372: CrimsonFox unvotes Schmidty (0), votes hoopsguy (1)
1374: Julio votes hoopsguy (2)
1450: Danny1 votes Simbo (1)
1486: saldana votes dubb (1) <---- saldana mentions investigating dubb and finds he's a spawnling
1514: Abe votes dubb (2)
1520: Julio unvotes hoops (1)
1532: Chief Rum votes dubb (3)
1551: dubb votes Danny1 (1)
1561: Chief Rum unvotes dubb (2)
1624: Shiggles votes Danny (2)
1626: Autumn unvotes CrimsonFox (0), votes Julio (1)
1636: Chubby votes dubb (3)
1643: Chief Rum votes hoops (2)
1659: CrimsonFox unvotes hoops (1), votes dubb (4)
1665: Julio votes Dubb (5)
1694/1696: LSG votes dubb (6)
1697: Simbo votes dubb (7)
1701: hoops votes Julio (2)
1709: CrimsonFox unvotes dubb (6), votes LSG (1)
1725: LSG unvotes dubb (5), votes Julio (3)
1730: Julio unvotes dubb (4), votes Simbo (2)
1732: CrimsonFox unvotes LSG (0), votes hoops (2)
1735: dubb unvotes Danny1 (1), votes Julio (4)
1762: Zinto votes hoops (3)
1799: JAG votes Danny1 (2)
1802: LSG unvotes Julio (3), votes Danny1 (3)
1803: Autumn unvotes Julio (2), votes Danny1 (4)
1804: britrock votes Dann1y (5)
1810: Zinto unvotes hoops (2), votes dubb (5)
1814: dubb unvotes Julio (1), votes Danny1 (6)
1817: Zinto unvotes dubb (4), votes Danny1 (7)
1836: Julio unvotes Simbo (1), votes Danny1 (8)

Simbo 1 - Danny (1450)
Julio 1 - hoops (1701)
hoops 2 - CR (1643) CF (1732)
dubb 4 - saldana (1486) Abe (1514) Chubby (1636) Simbo (1697)
Danny1 8 - Shiggles (1624) JAG (1799) LSG (1802) Autumn (1803) brit (1804) dubb (1814) Zinto (1817) Julio (1836)

Danny
06-28-2012, 04:25 PM
Those votes do not look good from lsg, they all look she was willIng to vote a dead in the water spawn but as soon as another candidate came up, she switched

Chubby
06-28-2012, 04:25 PM
then why don't you vote for him?
And DV is actually just as likely really. Both have a chance of being spawn and both have acted in a way that suggests wolf.

I did have my vote on him, I think LSG is the worst play possible here and am trying to avoid that

Danny
06-28-2012, 04:27 PM
Has anyone been a spawn in a past game? What is te likelihood a spawn stays unevolved for 6 days?

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 04:28 PM
Day 4 Voting:

2094: Julio Votes Hoops (1)
2096: Crimson votes Darth (1)
2134: Crimson unvotes Darth (0) votes Chubby (1)
2250: Simbo votes CrimsonFox (1)
2248: Abe votes Packer / Danny2 (1)
2252: Shiggles votes Zinto (1)
2295: Abe unvotes Packer / Danny2 (0)
2297: Abe votes Chubby (2)
2329: Chubby votes Julio (1)
2330: Chubby unvotes Julio (0) votes Crimson (2)
2336: Shiggles unvotes Zinto (0) votes Simbo (1)
2356: Julio votes Zinto (1)
2357: Saldana votes Chubby (3)
2358: LSG votes Simbo (2)
2361: Chief votes Simbo (3)
2380: Chubby unvotes CF (1) votes Zinto (2)
2413: Julio unvotes Zinto (1) votes Simbo (4)
2422: Brit votes Chubby (4)
2432: Chubby unvotes Zinto (0) votes Simbo (5)
2439: GE votes Simbo (6)
2440: Simbo unvotes CF (0) votes Chubby (5)
2443: Darth votes Simbo (7)
2445: Jag votes Simbo (8)

Simbo (8): Shiggles (2336), LSG (2358), Chief (2361), Julio (2413), Chubby (2432), GE (2439), Darth (2443), JAG (2445) (Hoops was in there somewhere too)

Chubby (5): Crimson (2134), Abe (2297), Saldana (2357), Brit (2422), Simbo (2440)

No vote: Zinto

Final Vote Count Day 6

Brit 2 - JAG (3357) Danny (3359)
Shiggles 8 - CF (3081) Julio (3096) Chubby (3155) DV (3203) brit (3391) LSG (3419) hoops (3428) GE (3428)
DV 2 - Shiggles (3101) Abe (3296)

Chubby
06-28-2012, 04:28 PM
Has anyone been a spawn in a past game? What is te likelihood a spawn stays unevolved for 6 days?

I was I believe. Not likely IMO

Danny
06-28-2012, 04:33 PM
If Brit was not the 3rd starting spawn then it has to be lsg or darth, thigh Brit is an odd mutation choice

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 04:34 PM
I was I believe. Not likely IMO

really looking at voting there is no way danny is a spawn.

And if you really think that the the last spawn is an original then it can't be danny. He was already cleared.

CrimsonFox
06-28-2012, 04:37 PM
Green = good, red = bad, blue = smurf