MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

[GamecocksLaw17]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

2017 1.5 (1.8 before trade and -0.3 after) x 6 = 9
2016 2.6 x 3 = 7.8
2015 5 x 1 = 5
Total = 21.8 / 10 = 2.18 average.

2.18 x 9 (value of WAR according to 1st post) x 1 year left = 19.62

19.62 - 5 M contract = 14.62

For what it's worth, you did that math 100% correctly

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[MrSerendipity]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

For what it's worth, you did that math 100% correctly

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He did, I was trying to get a quick number for him and accidentally used 2017 twice (once for both teams he played on).

[GamecocksLaw17]

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He did, I was trying to get a quick number for him and accidentally used 2017 twice (once for both teams he played on).

You're good, he just mentioned he was trying to learn it so I wanted him to know he was on the right path

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[BlueJays09]

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I see, I mixed up his 2017 numbers. Regardless, we're dealing with a 37 YR OLD CF who is far off of his 2015 numbers as Gamecock was detailing. I do think you can get a lottery guy for him, doesn't necessarily have to be a low-end one.

Thanks! I wasn't expecting much to be fair.

For Pillar (52) to SF. I have Chris Shaw (45 FV = 11M), Aramis Garcia (40 FV), and Tyler Beede (45 FV = 11M).

Basically, I have their top two prospects and number 6, but it only equals a little more than half of Pillar's value. This doesn't seem right.

[BlueJays09]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

I see, I mixed up his 2017 numbers. Regardless, we're dealing with a 37 YR OLD CF who is far off of his 2015 numbers as Gamecock was detailing. I do think you can get a lottery guy for him, doesn't necessarily have to be a low-end one.

Looking at the Marlins as they are competing, but lost Brinson to injury. Would Dillon Peters or Tyler Kolek (40 FV) be a lottery pick, or do I have to look further down the chain?

[MrSerendipity]

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Looking at the Marlins as they are competing, but lost Brinson to injury. Would Dillon Peters or Tyler Kolek (40 FV) be a lottery pick, or do I have to look further down the chain?

I don't have an issue with either of those guys going back your way. You have the right idea on a return value. Peters shows more upside than Kolek but he's also already 25. Those play a large part in determining how much of a lottery pick they are. Good selections.

[BlueJays09]

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I don't have an issue with either of those guys going back your way. You have the right idea on a return value. Peters shows more upside than Kolek but he's also already 25. Those play a large part in determining how much of a lottery pick they are. Good selections.

Cool, thanks a lot! Starting to make sense to me now. Any advice for my Pillar to Giants issue? How do I get 52 M of surplus when their top prospect is only 45FV ?

[MrSerendipity]

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It is 2020 and the Mets are an empty shell right now. I think it is time to move the following guys but I want to get some opinions. Are these okay? I know New York is high on these guys and as I'm a Rangers fan, I'm naturally trying to overpay. Conforto is in ARB, deGrom is on an expiring contract and Cespedes still has three years on his contract.

NYM REC: Seth Romero | Chi Chi Gonzalez | Ariel Jurado | Leody Taveras | DeLino DeShields Jr. | Julio Pablo Martinez
TEX REC: Jacob deGrom | Michael Conforto

NYM REC: Kyle Tucker
HOU REC: Yoenis Cespedes

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Cool, thanks a lot! Starting to make sense to me now. Any advice for my Pillar to Giants issue? How do I get 52 M of surplus when their top prospect is only 45FV ?

He gets traded to a different team. You're describing trying to fit a square peg into a round hole

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[GamecocksLaw17]

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It is 2020 and the Mets are an empty shell right now. I think it is time to move the following guys but I want to get some opinions. Are these okay? I know New York is high on these guys and as I'm a Rangers fan, I'm naturally trying to overpay. Conforto is in ARB, deGrom is on an expiring contract and Cespedes still has three years on his contract.

NYM REC: Seth Romero | Chi Chi Gonzalez | Ariel Jurado | Leody Taveras | DeLino DeShields Jr. | Julio Pablo Martinez
TEX REC: Jacob deGrom | Michael Conforto

NYM REC: Kyle Tucker
HOU REC: Yoenis Cespedes

I'll have to dive into the first one more but I can't see the Astros trading a young elite prospect for an old pricey outfielder even if Cespedes is very good

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[MrSerendipity]

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Cool, thanks a lot! Starting to make sense to me now. Any advice for my Pillar to Giants issue? How do I get 52 M of surplus when their top prospect is only 45FV ?

It looks like Gamecock already responded and I'll agree. Sometimes these teams just aren't good trade partners. Off the top of my head, I think you could take a look at some of these teams:

Cleveland
Minnesota (Corner Outfielder maybe?)
Atlanta (Corner Outfielder maybe?)

I'll have to dive into the first one more but I can't see the Astros trading a young elite prospect for an old pricey outfielder even if Cespedes is very good

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I agree. They make the most sense given need and a failure (in my franchise) to get out of the ALDS the last two years. I wonder if maybe a package of Reed and Dawson is more appropriate?

[Councilmann_Jamm]

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I did some testing today. If you trade a player one a 1 year contract in Spring Training. The team taking in the player has the ability to give a QO to the player.

I know that's allowed in real life. Just didn't know how it would work in game.

[Councilmann_Jamm]

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I'll have to dive into the first one more but I can't see the Astros trading a young elite prospect for an old pricey outfielder even if Cespedes is very good

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Well it depends. If Tucker is still in AAA at age 24-25. I don't think he's really considered a top tier prospect.

So the trade could work. Dependant on what's happening in the franchise.

[Councilmann_Jamm]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

It looks like Gamecock already responded and I'll agree. Sometimes these teams just aren't good trade partners. Off the top of my head, I think you could take a look at some of these teams:

Cleveland
Minnesota (Corner Outfielder maybe?)
Atlanta (Corner Outfielder maybe?)



I agree. They make the most sense given need and a failure (in my franchise) to get out of the ALDS the last two years. I wonder if maybe a package of Reed and Dawson is more appropriate?

For teams who need outfielder. For my Adam Jones trades it always came down to the Angles, Indians, and Mets.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Well it depends. If Tucker is still in AAA at age 24-25. I don't think he's really considered a top tier prospect.

So the trade could work. Dependant on what's happening in the franchise.

Cespedes would be a 34 year old rental on a $25 million dollar contract. Just not much surplus there but yeah, if the actual facts of the franchise were a certain way it could work

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