MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

[brandonholmes]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

I tend to agree with Jamm. The motivation isn't the same for Donaldson who they have to re-shift their entire defense around. He is also older, his better years are behind him and they don't have the long-term options with him that they do with Machado. I just don't think the fit is there to get the value you want.

Interesting to chew. The positional flexibility is definitely an asset, but given my JD is batting better than Machado (again) I’m gonna call it a wash. Treating both as rentals, so not gonna be as concerned with age or long-term prospects for either. And considering the tax applied to the Nats for Machado, the lack of positional flexibility might not play as big of a factor for them, as they get to keep Kieboom. Still, I like Soto+lotto for JD.

I’ll keep Wash in mind for both nonetheless.

[GamecocksLaw17]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

Interesting to chew. The positional flexibility is definitely an asset, but given my JD is batting better than Machado (again) I’m gonna call it a wash. Treating both as rentals, so not gonna be as concerned with age or long-term prospects for either. And considering the tax applied to the Nats for Machado, the lack of positional flexibility might not play as big of a factor for them, as they get to keep Kieboom. Still, I like Soto+lotto for JD.

I’ll keep Wash in mind for both nonetheless.

You might like it but it just isn't likely the Nats give up Soto for Donaldson when they will have to replace Harper in right in 2019.

And if we go on realism he's 19 in the majors. There's not really anything the real life Nats would trade him for

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[Councilmann_Jamm]

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Interesting to chew. The positional flexibility is definitely an asset, but given my JD is batting better than Machado (again) I’m gonna call it a wash. Treating both as rentals, so not gonna be as concerned with age or long-term prospects for either. And considering the tax applied to the Nats for Machado, the lack of positional flexibility might not play as big of a factor for them, as they get to keep Kieboom. Still, I like Soto+lotto for JD.

I’ll keep Wash in mind for both nonetheless.

Seems like you had your mind made up before you asked the question.

Donaldson isn't a good fit for the Nationals with their line up. "Realistic"

You're better off trading prospect or Stroman for Soto than anything else.

[brandonholmes]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

Seems like you had your mind made up before you asked the question.

Donaldson isn't a good fit for the Nationals with their line up. "Realistic"

You're better off trading prospect or Stroman for Soto than anything else.

Not at all. I saw what I thought was either a bad trade or a miscalculation of Machados value on my part. I personally don’t have the players as that far apart, as rentals, and I came to crowdsource opinions/comment on the idea that Machado pulls Soto+Kieboom+ and if that he does, under the auspices of Washington building a super team to make one last run with Harper, then JD for Soto+lotto would be something they might consider, considering JD has been the superior player for 3 seasons+, a trend that has continued in my franchise.

I’m not trying to be an antagonist or force something that doesn’t work, I’m trying to work within the parameters of the original deal and lock down a value for both players and some trade ideas for both. I appreciate the input though, thats what makes this thread great.

[brandonholmes]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

You might like it but it just isn't likely the Nats give up Soto for Donaldson when they will have to replace Harper in right in 2019.

And if we go on realism he's 19 in the majors. There's not really anything the real life Nats would trade him for

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My original idea was that Robles moves to centre, pushing Eaton into left or right, leaving one player they’d need to sign for a corner spot. Gives them one last year to compete with Harper and an easy transition into the post-Harper era.

Totally agree with the second point, which is what made me question the original Machado for Soto+ idea in the first place.

[Councilmann_Jamm]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

Not at all. I saw what I thought was either a bad trade or a miscalculation of Machados value on my part. I personally don’t have the players as that far apart, as rentals, and I came to crowdsource opinions/comment on the idea that Machado pulls Soto+Kieboom+ and if that he does, under the auspices of Washington building a super team to make one last run with Harper, then JD for Soto+lotto would be something they might consider, considering JD has been the superior player for 3 seasons+, a trend that has continued in my franchise.

I’m not trying to be an antagonist or force something that doesn’t work, I’m trying to work within the parameters of the original deal and lock down a value for both players and some trade ideas for both. I appreciate the input though, thats what makes this thread great.

It's all good. Bottom line is if Manny played for any other team he's not netting you Soto and Kieboom.

Baltimore and Washington hate each other. So it's a steeper price to pay. And the flexibility of Manny allows the trade to happen.



Type of prospects aside Donaldson just doesn't fit the Nationals no matter how we put it. He would take a spot of an already entrenched position without the same flexibility as Manny

[mcdoohoo]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

I’ve been offered a trade in my Marlins franchise that I think I’m interested in and want to get some thoughts:

MIAMI
C J.T. Realmuto

BOSTON
C Blake Swihart
1B Mitch Moreland

I like the idea of getting Moreland and putting him in RF to replace Maybin and get some extra power in my lineup. Does this seem reasonable?

[GamecocksLaw17]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

I’ve been offered a trade in my Marlins franchise that I think I’m interested in and want to get some thoughts:

MIAMI
C J.T. Realmuto

BOSTON
C Blake Swihart
1B Mitch Moreland

I like the idea of getting Moreland and putting him in RF to replace Maybin and get some extra power in my lineup. Does this seem reasonable?

You could get SOOOOOO much better for Realmuto

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[mcdoohoo]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

You could get SOOOOOO much better for Realmuto

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Thanks! I’ll hold off on that. I was just working out the math and realized how bad that was on my end.

[BlueJays09]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

How do you calculate average WAR for a player with only one or two years played? The formula is for three years


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[kinsmen7]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

Thanks! I’ll hold off on that. I was just working out the math and realized how bad that was on my end.

Check the spreadsheet out, but the trade that I ended up choosing for Realmuto was:

Miami: Realmuto+Bour
Colorado: Tapia + Rodgers + Pint.

There's a few others in there though!

[MrSerendipity]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

How do you calculate average WAR for a player with only one or two years played? The formula is for three years


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Typically I would go 6-4 instead of 6-3-1 in those situations.

[HolyStroke3]

Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

What would Keon Broxton cost (if he can pass through trade waivers)? He has spent the whole season in AAA. My CF combo of Dustin Fowler and Trayce Thompson isn't getting it done. I'm 6.5 out of the division and 2.5 out of the Wild Card

Also, what would JBJ cost this offseason? He played 31 games before dislocating his ankle and missing the rest of the season. Boston acquired Billy Hamilton at the deadline

[BlueJays09]

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I have Jason Hammels at 3.84 value and Tyson Ross at -4.81. Does this seem right for Ross? He probably will fetch more in real life.

If these values are right, the team acquiring them would only have to give a lottery ticket or so right?

[brandonholmes]

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I have Jason Hammels at 3.84 value and Tyson Ross at -4.81. Does this seem right for Ross? He probably will fetch more in real life.

If these values are right, the team acquiring them would only have to give a lottery ticket or so right?

I like a lotto ticket valuation for Ross. If he could stay healthy he might be worth something, but the guy has been absolutely brutalized by injury and the very real possibility that he blows up 5 minutes after he’s acquired has to scare teams off.

Assuming your the Blue Jays, toss them a projectable young lotto arm and I’d say that’s a fair deal.