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  • baconbits11
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    • Oct 2014
    • 2611

    #151
    Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

    Originally posted by Cycloniac
    Curious what people think about graphics and the exterior stadium shots, compared to MLB 2K7:


    2K7 was a very pretty-looking game.
    Amazing to say, but what 2K did 15 years ago was better than these exterior stadium shots.

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    • Caulfield
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      • Apr 2011
      • 10986

      #152
      Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

      Originally posted by breakfastcat
      But why would you assume that the already stellar gameplay would get worse if they focused heavily on visuals for a cycle or two? Worst case scenario it just stays the same which, as you admit, is great as is.
      my assumption is that its possible sometime in the future memory space for things like ball physics could be reallocated to make the game look pretty.
      I'm not going to condemn anyone for feeling that style over substance is better, but I'm not gonna subscribe to that line of thought myself
      Last edited by Caulfield; 03-10-2023, 04:01 PM.
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      • PhlliesPhan6
        MVP
        • Feb 2009
        • 1491

        #153
        Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

        Originally posted by Cycloniac
        Curious what people think about graphics and the exterior stadium shots, compared to MLB 2K7:


        2K7 was a very pretty-looking game.
        I definitely remember all of the exterior stadium shots being in that game but I don't remember the shots of people walking around the concourse.

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        • aj44
          Rookie
          • Mar 2023
          • 23

          #154
          Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

          For me getting the new schedule is huge to keep me from getting bored, I want to run a career with my favorite team and have gotten to tired of playing the same divisional teams half the schedule.

          I played strictly RTTS 08 to 20, then moved mostly to franchise with player lock in 21/22 and one thing I know this year is I won't fire up RTTS at all, its straight into franchise mode.

          When I saw how long this live stream was my fear was they would do something I hate like they did with RTTS in 2017 with Archetype and in 2021 tying it to DD. They didn't so I'm confident I'll have a blast with franchise this year. I am encouraged by the drafting changes and I have hope the trading logic is actually improved, but that's a trust but verify at this point.

          The graphics are quite dated, my hope this is a primary focus in 24 with current gen only being supported.

          All that being said March 24th can't come soon enough, I haven't played since July and with the schedule changes haven't looked forward to a new version of The Show as much as this one in years.

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          • LastActionHero
            MVP
            • Feb 2009
            • 2453

            #155
            Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

            Originally posted by Cycloniac
            Curious what people think about graphics and the exterior stadium shots, compared to MLB 2K7:


            2K7 was a very pretty-looking game.

            The stadiums itself are on a whole other level in the Show compared to this but those exterior shots in 2k7 aren’t that bad…or the ones in The Show are just super underwhelming compared to the actual stadiums.
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            • Willis135
              Pro
              • Jan 2010
              • 601

              #156
              Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

              Originally posted by aj44
              For me getting the new schedule is huge to keep me from getting bored, I want to run a career with my favorite team and have gotten to tired of playing the same divisional teams half the schedule.



              I played strictly RTTS 08 to 20, then moved mostly to franchise with player lock in 21/22 and one thing I know this year is I won't fire up RTTS at all, its straight into franchise mode.



              When I saw how long this live stream was my fear was they would do something I hate like they did with RTTS in 2017 with Archetype and in 2021 tying it to DD. They didn't so I'm confident I'll have a blast with franchise this year. I am encouraged by the drafting changes and I have hope the trading logic is actually improved, but that's a trust but verify at this point.



              The graphics are quite dated, my hope this is a primary focus in 24 with current gen only being supported.



              All that being said March 24th can't come soon enough, I haven't played since July and with the schedule changes haven't looked forward to a new version of The Show as much as this one in years.
              100 percent the new schedule is huge, playing every team and getting to experience all the stadiums will keep franchise fresh... I always use the Tigers and it will be nice to play in the NL stadiums

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              • Balldude777
                Rookie
                • Oct 2019
                • 193

                #157
                Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                Originally posted by Willis135
                100 percent the new schedule is huge, playing every team and getting to experience all the stadiums will keep franchise fresh... I always use the Tigers and it will be nice to play in the NL stadiums

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                I was having a hard time finding the specifics of the new schedule you guys are talking about, what is happening with it exactly?

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                • LegendKillerOne
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2019
                  • 1764

                  #158
                  Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                  Originally posted by Balldude777
                  I was having a hard time finding the specifics of the new schedule you guys are talking about, what is happening with it exactly?
                  You play less games now in MLB against your division and every team plays everyone atleast once this season.
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                  • canes21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 22923

                    #159
                    Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                    Originally posted by Cycloniac
                    Curious what people think about graphics and the exterior stadium shots, compared to MLB 2K7:


                    2K7 was a very pretty-looking game.
                    If they could have as many people walking around in The Show's exterior shots as we see in these exterior and concourse shots, it would make The Show's scenes feel more alive and immersive.

                    When you look at this



                    It just looks dead, as if this angle is from 5 hours before game time. Compare it to any of the 2k shots and it's not a comparison in terms of fans on the screen. The comparison gets worse when you start looking at the detail between the two and you see they are more similar than not, but we can at least maybe say the stream's quality makes it harder to see some of the detail in The Show's shots. Either way, it's a nice step forward, but not really executed well from what we've seen.

                    EDIT: I was able to upload a snip from the video. It's not even a fair comparison between the two, really.
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                    • 702
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1165

                      #160
                      Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                      Originally posted by LegendKillerOne
                      I agree I think it just always boils down to that old saying. You will NEVER make everyone happy at anything in life. Never happens. If a QB throws 52 tds in a season and 0 picks but in the super bowl misses a pass on the last throw to win the game people will say he had a bad season. no such thing as making everyone happy.

                      I feel like people want OOTP in MLB the show . OOTP has like every feature in baseball you can ask for . Nothing is missing. BUT OOTP is never going to pay the money it would take to use player likeness on the graphics so the graphics will never match MLB the show graphics.

                      Does the show put way to much time in DD and such . Ofcourse they do but that is not their fault its the consumer. Its us. People spend money on things for DD and streamers stream about it so it makes money. So they are going to do it.

                      I am sure the makers of the game work hard, they care, and try the best they can with the time and resources they have to work with
                      I don't want OOTP, I just want something close to what 2k has for NBA. They make expansion work, relocation, record books, rule changes, bigger trades, draft classes, I could go on. Its just a much bigger sandbox. Do they get everything perfect? Definitely not. But they give you so many options to explore.

                      The presentation stuff in yesterday's video IS really cool. But that shine only lasts for so long. Graphics, eh. Same thing, doesn't matter a bunch to me.

                      I bought a ps5 just for 2k23, and I have different franchises I float between (different eras, a custom fictional league). I'll kick up a franchise and sim 10 years for an afternoon if i don't feel like playing. Until MLB provides something like that, I'll just stick with my A's franchise on '20.

                      By the way, I wouldn't expect MLB to ever do something to the Eras feature in 2k. Rosters are too big. That'd be absurd. The other stuff all seems rather feasible though.

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                      • LowerWolf
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 12268

                        #161
                        Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                        Originally posted by Hardworker33
                        I skipped 22 which was the 1st time in 10+ year I didn’t buy MLBTS. I saw no good reason to upgrade from 21’

                        After yesterday’s stream, I’m excited to get back into it. Draft is a huge component and presentation looks promising.

                        Just bought a brand new LG C2 OLED tv…let’s see how it looks compared to my 2016 1080p Vizio!
                        Congrats! The C2 is awesome. I notice a difference playing 21 on it.

                        I skipped 22, but I'm leaning toward getting 23. I'll probably still wait for a sale, but the new draft, new schedule and new rules have me thinking it may be time to move on from 21. And if 23 doesn't scratch the itch, I can always go back to 21.
                        Last edited by LowerWolf; 03-10-2023, 04:58 PM.

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                        • aj44
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2023
                          • 23

                          #162
                          Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                          Originally posted by Balldude777
                          I was having a hard time finding the specifics of the new schedule you guys are talking about, what is happening with it exactly?
                          Previously each team played their 4 divisional opponents 19 times apiece, for 76 games total, roughly 47% of the schedule. They would only play one division of teams from the opposite league (also natural rival) each year so in theory you would only see an opposite league team in your home stadium every 6 years. MLB The Show was never able to create schedules to rotate the opposite league team opponents, so playing a multi year franchise you would be stuck with the same opposite league opponents each year, and only able to play two thirds of the opposite league teams in the World Series if you both made it.

                          Now every team plays their 4 divisional opponents 13 times apiece and will play a 3 game series against every opposite league team every season so you will see an opposite league team at your home stadium every 2 years.

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                          • CgyFlames
                            Pro
                            • May 2007
                            • 626

                            #163
                            Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                            Originally posted by Cycloniac
                            Curious what people think about graphics and the exterior stadium shots, compared to MLB 2K7:


                            2K7 was a very pretty-looking game.

                            Never played 2k7 so I gave these a watch.

                            1. The exterior shots are very nice
                            2. Interior concourse shots add atmosphere but are generic, not stadium specific
                            3. Commentary is bad


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                            • DirtBallNation
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 243

                              #164
                              Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                              I’m appreciative to the additions they showed that is apart of the new game. I really don’t want to complain about the additions because this is better than what we’ve seen, plus it seems like a lot of other people have done enough complaining to make up for me. I think my one gripe about the stream was how they hardly show anything in game of what we’re getting. Example, new trade logic, CBA rules, etc; at least give us an image or in menu gameplay of seeing the playoff format, or give an example of the “new” trade logic. The streams over the last couple years has been glorified power points and I guess it’s a little irritating. I get it that they don’t want to give too much away but give us something more.

                              Lastly, is it everything I think Franchise has been missing? No… BUT it’s a big part of franchise that was severely lacking. It’s a step in the right direction, but definitely excited for the game now.
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                              • bryanm1982
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                                • Nov 2016
                                • 3789

                                #165
                                Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                                Yeah that would have been nice if they would have shown an example of a trade with their new logic.
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