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  • davewins
    MVP
    • Sep 2005
    • 1913

    #151
    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

    Originally posted by SoxFan01605
    I'm not saying it isn't. It's a plausible argument. It just seems some have decided on the point and don't want discussion, only validation.
    You will see a blue moon before you see validation on this subject. I made a mistake by saying I am 100% convinced on it. Even though I am, I shouldn't of publicly announced it because nothing is 100%. You guys have the right to your opinions if you don't believe it. Just like I have the right to mine. Nothing is definite in this, but I do believe this can possibly help some. In the long run though nobody will EVER be right or wrong on this subject. It just can not be proved or disproved.

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    • frago
      Rookie
      • Mar 2004
      • 498

      #152
      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

      While I seriously doubt that the slider is reversed, I think there is more of a problem in this years version.

      I never ever believe in reverse slider theories and we seem to have a few each year. I believe that their is a comeback code in the game code this year and that it like 99% of the sliders in this version are just flat out broken. I think this setting is left on by default and that the on off switch does not sork.

      I have noticed nearly every slider has zero effect in this years game. I would actually say the only slider that is working is pitch speed. I have turned off variable umpires and it also has zero effect I still have clear balls and strikes called wrong. I can max out ever slider for the human and put every slider at zero for the CPU and it has zero effect. It also works the opposite way.

      I appreciate that you are trying to find out why this years game is acting the way it is but I will say it is broken in the on posistion and that nearly all other sliders are completely broken in this years game.

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      • BigWilly
        Rookie
        • Mar 2009
        • 454

        #153
        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

        There's a lot of drama in this thread now. Depending on each person's experience so far, they perceive there is "something" going on with respect to comebacks or there isn't. Debating without data is just that - debating. And it'll get us no where.

        At this point, I think we should all just talk less, and play more - with the comeback option ON and/or OFF and post their results to see if we can find out if there is something to it. And be honest. The goal isn't to be right or wrong. I couldn't care. I think most people just want to know if there's something to it or not.

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        • davewins
          MVP
          • Sep 2005
          • 1913

          #154
          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

          Originally posted by kubankaos
          Nice. Funny I have thought about just turning on CPU comeback, and after reading this thread I can't wait to try. All my games are close and would, at lease once in a blue moon, like an easy victory. My heart can't take all these close exciting games.

          Wow when I put it like that, I guess I'm saying I want an occasional boring game.
          Boring is what I got. The first game I played with the Red Sox against Orioles I threw a CG with Josh Beckett and won 12-4 getting 19 hits. I actually was trying to get out when I was up. I was swinging at pretty much everything just so I could get back on the mound and see if they would make any attempt at coming back.

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          • davewins
            MVP
            • Sep 2005
            • 1913

            #155
            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

            Originally posted by frago
            While I seriously doubt that the slider is reversed, I think there is more of a problem in this years version.

            I never ever believe in reverse slider theories and we seem to have a few each year. I believe that their is a comeback code in the game code this year and that it like 99% of the sliders in this version are just flat out broken. I think this setting is left on by default and that the on off switch does not sork.

            I have noticed nearly every slider has zero effect in this years game. I would actually say the only slider that is working is pitch speed. I have turned off variable umpires and it also has zero effect I still have clear balls and strikes called wrong. I can max out ever slider for the human and put every slider at zero for the CPU and it has zero effect. It also works the opposite way.

            I appreciate that you are trying to find out why this years game is acting the way it is but I will say it is broken in the on posistion and that nearly all other sliders are completely broken in this years game.
            What have you got to lose by trying to play a game with it set to ON?? I am going to play some more games now.

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            • DanDaBreadman
              Rookie
              • Oct 2006
              • 54

              #156
              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

              I will test the OP's theory tonight for a few games.

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              • dorismary
                Banned
                • Jan 2009
                • 3794

                #157
                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                Originally posted by boyd0
                ok well played my first game on VETERAN with cpu comeback on..

                Yankees: 3 14 0
                Indians: 7 13 0

                W: Aaron Laffey
                L: Wang

                It felt like my power was drained from me kind of..my hitters couldnt get it near the wall only player that did was arod but he doubled twice off the wall..and everytime i scored the cpu came screamin back at me lol it was a hitting machine..
                Same here ! HITTING MACHINE

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                • davewins
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1913

                  #158
                  Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                  Originally posted by DallasRocks
                  I'm Dallas man but I did't feel like reading through 10 pages and didn't realize this was mainly for Legend, but I thought it may apply to every level, I guess not.

                  For the people complaining about it, here's a hint, don't play on Legend. Go down to HOF or even All Star and see if you continue to lose
                  YOu should of read the entire thread or at least the first page. This does not cause me to lose games. I have a winning record on Legend. It makes the game unrealistic when players get bonuses just because their team is down.

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                  • davewins
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1913

                    #159
                    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                    Originally posted by dorismary
                    Same here ! HITTING MACHINE
                    It's not going to make the game easy. You still have to pitch excellent. I threw a complete game and 8.1 innings. CG with Beckett and 8.1 with Volstad. Volstad gave up 6 hits and 2 runs over 8.1 innings. Proctor came in and pitched great too under pressure with a 7 run lead. Play more games just like I should as well.

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                    • boyd0
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 68

                      #160
                      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                      yeah your right...im gonna try it for 2 more games then go play with it off for 3 more games ill post each result dave or PM them to you..and tell me wat u think ..ill do it tonight sometime

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                      • frago
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 498

                        #161
                        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                        I think a few people need to actually go to the option in game a read what it says.

                        It gives YOU or the CPU a SLIGHT batting ratings increase when trailing. This option is turned OFF when the tying or go ahead runner reaches base.

                        So therefore we can gather that in the code written for this feature this year, that it is made to turn itself on and off. So I could definately see how the code could be broken because it sure doesnt turn itself off when the tying runner gets on base. This would lead me to think that if that portion is broken that the ENTIRE system is broken.

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                        • SoxFan01605
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 7982

                          #162
                          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                          Originally posted by davewins
                          You will see a blue moon before you see validation on this subject. I made a mistake by saying I am 100% convinced on it. Even though I am, I shouldn't of publicly announced it because nothing is 100%. You guys have the right to your opinions if you don't believe it. Just like I have the right to mine. Nothing is definite in this, but I do believe this can possibly help some. In the long run though nobody will EVER be right or wrong on this subject. It just can not be proved or disproved.
                          Well, I agree with part one.

                          Nobody who is firmly entrenched in one viewpoint or another will likely change their mind.

                          I disagree with the notion that nobody will EVER be right or wrong. If the option is switched, it's switched. There's no grey area there.

                          The perception of "comeback code" (one way or the other)will never be disproved, because it's perception. The realilty of whether or not the logic is switched should be able to be proved if the devs get ahold of it, check, and confirm.

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                          • davewins
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 1913

                            #163
                            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                            Originally posted by phillyfan23
                            hey jim,

                            no one is saying that that I know of....what dave said was that SCEA made a mistake in switching the cpu comeback button.

                            I really don't think anyone would say that SCEA intentionally puts cheats in the game to make it harder, they would be mistaken because that's not how SCEA rolls.

                            but it is possible that they made an honest mistake. It has been done before by the NHL series, other sports and even THIS series with broken/non-functioning sliders.

                            so the possibility is there....could dave be wrong? hell ya...and i will be the first to tell him eventhough it will be disappointing, but as of now his news is very encouraging.
                            That's just it. I think this takes a lot of heat because a lot of people are fanboys and they take offense. I am not pointing fingers here but you guys know who you are.

                            Again I want to reiterate for the umpteenth time that I absolutley NEVER thought in my mind that SCEA would even THINK about purposely making this game "scripted" or have comeback ai to make legend harder. The only possibility (which is why I am testing) is that it was an honest mistake or a bug in the programming (i have no idea how games are made) that made this option reversed where it's on when it's off and it's off when it's on. Never would I ever think that SCEA would purposely make this game play cheap. I hope I am understood because I 100% respect the hard work and dedication that the entire SCEA team did with this game. This is not only the best baseball game to date, it is the best sports game to date regardless of everything that this thread speaks of.

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                            • davewins
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 1913

                              #164
                              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              if the option was backwards, then you should never get blown out by the cpu, at least according to how guys are explaining how the feature works.

                              If you've been blown out by the cpu with the option off, then its not the option being reversed causing you problems.
                              How could you possibly use the word "never". Although I haven't gotten blown out by the CPU yet. This isn't an etched in stone feature otherwise they would call it "can't blowout the CPU mode". Ok that was very corny but you know what I mean. They simply made this feature to make games more exciting and to give people even more of a challenge when playing against the CPU. They didn't make this feature so you can simply never blow out the CPU. This is just meant to give bonuses and make it more difficult. It doesn't mean that you will always give up the lead or always come back. It just means you have to play even better and pitch even smarter to beat the CPU if you have a lead and the greater the lead the greater the bonus. Or, if you are just that good at pitching the bonus will not even affect your game on the mound because it doesn't make the CPU automatically get hits, it increases their chances.

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                              • davewins
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 1913

                                #165
                                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                                Originally posted by SoxFan01605
                                Well, I agree with part one.

                                Nobody who is firmly entrenched in one viewpoint or another will likely change their mind.

                                I disagree with the notion that nobody will EVER be right or wrong. If the option is switched, it's switched. There's no grey area there.

                                The perception of "comeback code" (one way or the other)will never be disproved, because it's perception. The realilty of whether or not the logic is switched should be able to be proved if the devs get ahold of it, check, and confirm.
                                10-4 Roger Dodger

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