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  • HustlinOwl
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    • Mar 2004
    • 9713

    #841
    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

    Originally posted by bsb13
    If I'm not mistaken (I could be) but I think even when you turned off the Rob Homerun indicator last year it still stayed on.
    Wrong

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    • bsb13
      Banned
      • Mar 2005
      • 3439

      #842
      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

      Originally posted by HustlinOwl
      Wrong
      Like I said, I could be wrong so I'm not going to debate it. But I would have to go back and check for myself before I'm convinced of it because I could've sworn I tried turning it off last year but it remained on.

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      • pbz06
        Banned
        • Oct 2008
        • 1504

        #843
        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

        on and on this thread goes

        one side isn't going to convince the other side

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        • HustlinOwl
          All Star
          • Mar 2004
          • 9713

          #844
          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

          Originally posted by pbz06
          on and on this thread goes

          one side isn't going to convince the other side
          I know right, the developers even chimed in and said there was nothing reversed yet people are still clamoring how they think the settings are indeed reversed.

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          • PsychoBulk
            Hoping for change...
            • May 2006
            • 4191

            #845
            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

            Originally posted by HustlinOwl
            I know right, the developers even chimed in and said there was nothing reversed yet people are still clamoring how they think the settings are indeed reversed.
            Some people cant be seen to be backing down this far in Owl :wink:

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            • bsb13
              Banned
              • Mar 2005
              • 3439

              #846
              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

              Originally posted by pbz06
              on and on this thread goes

              one side isn't going to convince the other side
              Originally posted by HustlinOwl
              I know right, the developers even chimed in and said there was nothing reversed yet people are still clamoring how they think the settings are indeed reversed.
              Not that I really care...but why keep bumping this thread by posting in it if this thread bothers you so much. I always try and avoid posting in threads I want to die, because posting in it just helps contribute to its life.

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              • magoo1967
                Pro
                • Mar 2004
                • 784

                #847
                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                Originally posted by pbz06
                on and on this thread goes

                one side isn't going to convince the other side
                I don't know who is trying to convince anybody of anything. I honestly come here to read what others who are seeing a problem have to say and discuss it with them. I can't for the life of me understand why someone who doesn't believe there's a problem feels the need to discount what others are obviously really experiencing.
                "There are only two seasons—winter and baseball." - Bill Veeck

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                • davewins
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1913

                  #848
                  Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                  Originally posted by HustlinOwl
                  I know right, the developers even chimed in and said there was nothing reversed yet people are still clamoring how they think the settings are indeed reversed.
                  read some posts in this thread like my last few. It's all a matter of opinion. It's not fact based.

                  There were options reversed/broken in past games that could be easily identified (if magoo is indeed correct). If that's true then why can't the option be reversed/broken? This is not something you are going to see with your naked eye like the other options that were visual aids were. It's easy to say that the hr indicator works just fine if you see that it goes on. There is not much to debate there. This is all under the hood so it's a matter of personal opinion/feel. It's not fact based though. All you have to do is forget about everybody else and worry about yourself. If you enjoy it with it OFF then go ahead and play the crap out of this EXCELLENT game.

                  Like I said if you want to play with it OFF then I really have no idea why you are even in this thread to begin with. There is no debate on whether it's reversed or not. The debate is simply that it can not be debated. We can agree to disagree with this if you like but a dev's opinion is just that. His opinion based on the games that he played vs my (and others) opinion by the games that we played. It is not a factual argument for either side.

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                  • JT30
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 2123

                    #849
                    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                    Originally posted by magoo1967
                    I don't know who is trying to convince anybody of anything. I honestly come here to read what others who are seeing a problem have to say and discuss it with them. I can't for the life of me understand why someone who doesn't believe there's a problem feels the need to discount what others are obviously really experiencing.
                    I agree... and on another note, can someone explain to me if attributes and ratings play a big part in this game, how can I take Varitek and put him in CF and have him play like Ellsbury and also take Pedroia, put him in to pitch and have him pitch 5 scoreless innings of 2 hit, no walk ball?

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                    • HustlinOwl
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 9713

                      #850
                      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                      Never said that this thread bothers me. I initially thought something screwy was going on with the FIRST week of the game and tried turning comeback on long before this thread and did not see any difference gameplay. If anything it was worse I had my first offensive outburst and the CPU matched me per inning. As of late just paying more attention to batter/pitcher match-ups, familiarity with the game (it's not 08) and Psycho's sliders I have been experiencing a completely different game than the first week of playing.

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                      • pbz06
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1504

                        #851
                        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                        Originally posted by HustlinOwl
                        I know right, the developers even chimed in and said there was nothing reversed yet people are still clamoring how they think the settings are indeed reversed.
                        I know for a fact that with it ON, it works just as designed. I tested by playing one of the better teams with their ace, going against the bad teams with their #5 guy, just to build a lead. They came back EVERY time, just as designed. I played about 8 games this way, on All-Star).

                        With it OFF, I've seen all kinds of games.

                        As I've said a million times, I don't think the problem is any sort of comeback AI. The "problem" is that the CPU is very very hard this year. All these super innings people are complaining about happen whether the CPU is trailing, tied, or already ahead. I did notice some of these complaints, I've been punished by the CPU and received my share of beatings.

                        If I had to complain about that, I think it's more tied into the confidence system. Seems that the pitchers (particularly the User's) unravel too quickly, while the CPU's pitchers tend to get the benefit and get out of jams easier.

                        I seem to give up ALL my runs in bunches...seems like it's always that one inning that gets me. The CPU doesn't really peck away much. It's all or nothing most of the time.

                        Most of my boxscores for the CPU look something like 000430003 or maybe a 000600000. Know what I'm saying?

                        But i haven't jumped on any conspiracy theory tirade. I do feel like I get better and better with my pitching. I've been able to hold the CPU to 2-5 runs consistently lately. And by lately I mean I haven't played in a week though, because my PS3 is currently out of commission
                        Last edited by pbz06; 04-03-2009, 10:34 AM.

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                        • davewins
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 1913

                          #852
                          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                          Originally posted by PsychoBulk
                          Because the likes of Brian and Ramone, people involved with the company that made the game (more specifically Brian the head AI man) tell you they have tested this hundreds/thousands of times (as they can with the setup they have) and it is NOT reversed or broken?

                          Or maybe they just want to lie to us all, just for the sheer LOL's, you know :wink:
                          I am not by any means saying that they are lying to us. I honestly think that that's how they feel about the game. That's fine. Many people do feel the game's comeback options are NOT reversed. That's fine. It's a matter of opinion and not fact though because I too have played over 100 games with it OFF and saw an immediate difference turning it ON.

                          What makes their "tests" any more conclusive then mine??

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                          • HustlinOwl
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 9713

                            #853
                            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                            Originally posted by davewins
                            We can agree to disagree with this if you like but a dev's opinion is just that. His opinion based on the games that he played vs my
                            So Brian saying nothing is reversed is his opinion of the game LOL

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                            • PsychoBulk
                              Hoping for change...
                              • May 2006
                              • 4191

                              #854
                              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                              Originally posted by davewins
                              I am not by any means saying that they are lying to us. I honestly think that that's how they feel about the game. That's fine. Many people do feel the game's comeback options are NOT reversed. That's fine. It's a matter of opinion and not fact though because I too have played over 100 games with it OFF and saw an immediate difference turning it ON.

                              What makes their "tests" any more conclusive then mine??
                              Honestly Dave, if you really need to ask that question...

                              Do you think their tests involve them sitting there playing for hours like we do? Honestly?

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                              • pbz06
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1504

                                #855
                                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                                Originally posted by bsb13
                                Not that I really care...but why keep bumping this thread by posting in it if this thread bothers you so much. I always try and avoid posting in threads I want to die, because posting in it just helps contribute to its life.
                                Because it's a discussion.

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