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  • El_MaYiMbE
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 1427

    #1156
    Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

    Originally posted by Pared
    Karros wasn't fully in place when I heard him. STILL... the commentary overall isn't up to the quality I would like.

    I know I spent about a half hour boring their audio guy on "easy" ways to make the current audio sound much better... including the blending of key phrases and the cuts of immediate "OH" screams on a bomb, line drive snag, etc. but he expressed to me that it most likely wouldn't make it in.

    I'm hoping '12 will give that flexibility however. It's on my "to do" list. Let's just hope it can coincide with theirs...



    That doesn't really matter in the situation we're referring to.
    I think NBA 2K11 has done the best job to date with this.

    Announcers talk to each other about players and about the game, when a big dunk happens they stop mid sentence and go "OH! WOW! etc." and then pick up convo where they left off.

    It seems real and organic, and I think that is what MLB is missing. For the most part though MLBs commentary is pretty good, they sound real, they're interested in the game and really give insight on the players on the field (even though it is repeated over and over).

    I think Karros being added to the mix shows that they at least acknowledge that a change needs to be made, but there are far more important things to nail down.

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #1157
      Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

      Originally posted by El_MaYiMbE
      I think NBA 2K11 has done the best job to date with this.
      I completely agree. And with MLB 2k expected to use the same technology, it's quite apparent The Show needs to focus on this aspect next year IMO.

      But they are well aware of what they would like to do. How the execution will be handled is always the important question we would like to see answered!
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      • bcruise
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2004
        • 23274

        #1158
        Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

        Originally posted by El_MaYiMbE
        I think NBA 2K11 has done the best job to date with this.

        Announcers talk to each other about players and about the game, when a big dunk happens they stop mid sentence and go "OH! WOW! etc." and then pick up convo where they left off.

        It seems real and organic, and I think that is what MLB is missing. For the most part though MLBs commentary is pretty good, they sound real, they're interested in the game and really give insight on the players on the field (even though it is repeated over and over).

        I think Karros being added to the mix shows that they at least acknowledge that a change needs to be made, but there are far more important things to nail down.
        Yes, the stories and such are nice the first time you hear them, but they repeat too often if you play the game a lot, especially if you use the same team frequently. You're always going to have that problem when it comes to video game announcing, but to me it's not AS big a deal when the lines are shorter. When minute-long stories get repeated every couple of games it gets really old, really fast.

        I agree with you on the general flow of the 2k11 commentary though - the structure just seems much more varied. Like Pared said, the addition of Karros tells me that SCEA has a plan for revamping the commentary, but it'll probably happen gradually and carefully, like pretty much everything they do.

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        • wsu_gb23
          Banned
          • Feb 2008
          • 1641

          #1159
          Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

          Continuing with the commentary theme, how about an option or a slider to adjust individual annoucers. So, if I don't want to hear much out of soup for the day I can turn him to off. Would that ever work?

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          • bcruise
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2004
            • 23274

            #1160
            Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

            Originally posted by wsu_gb23
            Continuing with the commentary theme, how about an option or a slider to adjust individual annoucers. So, if I don't want to hear much out of soup for the day I can turn him to off. Would that ever work?
            I think the guys mentioned this option is in this year. Maybe one of them can confirm it again.

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            • econoodle
              MVP
              • Sep 2009
              • 4884

              #1161
              Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

              Forgot to ask this.

              Are the newspapers gone? Replaced possibly with headlines from around the league?

              This game lags behind in the area of news from around the league.

              You really never know when a guy throws a no hitter, hits his 500th dinger or wins his 300th game.
              that stuff should be in a nice tidy headline section.
              or at least have it appear on the ticker when it happens.

              thanks guys.

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              • econoodle
                MVP
                • Sep 2009
                • 4884

                #1162
                Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

                Originally posted by bcruise
                I think the guys mentioned this option is in this year. Maybe one of them can confirm it again.
                Yes it is in this year.
                It shows it clearly in one of the CES vids.

                Lets hope this year we dont have a reason to shut their traps!

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                • econoodle
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4884

                  #1163
                  Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

                  Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                  I might just take pics of all of them next week
                  As well as all the stadium specific pitching cams? what a guy russ!
                  I'll be waiting,. kthnxbye. lol j/k but yea a few of those would be sweet too.

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                  • EnigmaNemesis
                    Animal Liberation
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 12216

                    #1164
                    Originally posted by bcruise
                    I think the guys mentioned this option is in this year. Maybe one of them can confirm it again.
                    Yes there are now sliders for volume on them, to all the way off if you like.

                    Each announcer has his own slider.
                    Boston Red Sox | Miami Dolphins

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                    • EnigmaNemesis
                      Animal Liberation
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 12216

                      #1165
                      Originally posted by econoodle
                      Forgot to ask this.

                      Are the newspapers gone? Replaced possibly with headlines from around the league?

                      This game lags behind in the area of news from around the league.

                      You really never know when a guy throws a no hitter, hits his 500th dinger or wins his 300th game.
                      that stuff should be in a nice tidy headline section.
                      or at least have it appear on the ticker when it happens.

                      thanks guys.
                      Yes the newspapers are still there.

                      And you will get those things in the ticker, as well as a bunch of other things. Will not talk too much about it right now, other than it looks AMAZING.
                      Boston Red Sox | Miami Dolphins

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                      • wsu_gb23
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1641

                        #1166
                        Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

                        Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                        Yes there are now sliders for volume on them, to all the way off if you like.

                        Each announcer has his own slider.

                        Sweet Justice!

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                        • econoodle
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 4884

                          #1167
                          Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

                          Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                          I might just take pics of all of them next week
                          Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                          Yes the newspapers are still there.

                          And you will get those things in the ticker, as well as a bunch of other things. Will not talk too much about it right now, other than it looks AMAZING.

                          Thanks EN.
                          Awesome that the ticker goes deep like that.

                          I remember compiling a thread last year talking bout immersion in ur franchise with the ticker. having things like UPDATE*** Reports Say Ortiz Signed To One Year 5.Ml Dollar deal & "Halladay has just thrown a no-hitter".
                          So to see they did add things somewhat like that is really cool.

                          Its amazing what fielding, stats, and a new coat of visual paint can do to make u forget minimal franchise changes!


                          as far as the newspapers, i guess its cool, very baseball. I mean, if there was any sport still today that lends itself best to and old school form like the old 'black and white and read all over', its baseball.
                          Nothing like reading a box score over breakfast the next morning.

                          now about those box scores....

                          Last edited by econoodle; 01-15-2011, 12:43 PM.

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                          • bcruise
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23274

                            #1168
                            Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

                            Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                            Yes there are now sliders for volume on them, to all the way off if you like.

                            Each announcer has his own slider.
                            Cool, thanks for the answer.

                            I'd also like to point out that this is only possible because of the way the Show's commentary stucture is now - since they DON'T talk to each other there won't be any awkward dead air situations if you muted one of them. In NBA2k11 for example, muting one of the announcers (if it were possible) would cause those stories or post-play lines to sound extremely strange, because the commentary in that game flows together.

                            Not saying the Show's way is necessarily better but at least it gives the user a choice on what they want to hear.

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                            • EnigmaNemesis
                              Animal Liberation
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 12216

                              #1169
                              Originally posted by bcruise
                              Cool, thanks for the answer.

                              I'd also like to point out that this is only possible because of the way the Show's commentary stucture is now - since they DON'T talk to each other there won't be any awkward dead air situations if you muted one of them. In NBA2k11 for example, muting one of the announcers (if it were possible) would cause those stories or post-play lines to sound extremely strange, because the commentary in that game flows together.

                              Not saying the Show's way is necessarily better but at least it gives the user a choice on what they want to hear.
                              Well it will not be as frequent as 2K, but Matt will ask Karros his observations on some teams or players, even the clubs managers, and Karros will go into great detail. They do have some noticeable cross chatter and it is a welcoming addition. But good 'ole Dave can be muted
                              Boston Red Sox | Miami Dolphins

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                              • K_GUN
                                C*t*z*n *f RSN
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 3891

                                #1170
                                Re: MLB 11 The Show Community Day Discussion Thread - Questions, Answers etc.

                                in terms of crowd audio....are they *smarter*?

                                for example...

                                i played a game this morning in '10....sox Vs yanks in Fenway....it was top 6..sox up 2-1 with 0 out. yanks grab a single and then draw a walk.......swisher hits in DP....crowd acted as if a routine out just occured......that Fenway crowd should have erupted in noise after that key DP was turned then settled back down b4 next batter.

                                so while it's key to get crowd noise into the game its even more imperative they are *smart* about it.
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